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On Classic Rock Guy being a Trump -> Biden voter: my uncle is a professional live audio engineer, who was a touring “hard rock” musician in the early-mid 70s (his band opened for Aerosmith and Deep Purple etc). He now lives in the suburbs and is an unapologetic Fox News reactionary - when him an his old band friends get together to jam, they commiserate about antifas and the border wall and so on. I think their generation took the most narcissistic self-indulgent elements of the 60s counterculture, with raw 70s material consumerist aggrievement, and let that mix age (as small business tyrant, suburban homeowners) through the “end of history,” and then the post-2008 decline only hardened their beliefs. They are NOT voting for Biden, under any circumstances haha

@dbarker7794

2 ай бұрын

I know guys that age who are the opposite.

Just here to say Rush absolutely rules.

There's also parts of the "classic rock era" you never hear played at all, late-'60s early-'70s acts like Gun, Three Man Army, Bloodrock, Fuzzy Duck, 13th Floor Elevators, Coven, etc., either because they went too deep into fuzz pedals or the style is considered "too dated." On the other end, the more poppy "California sound" bands of the mid to late 1960s are being totally forgotten, especially The Association (even though they were the lead band at the 1967 Monterey Pop festival). The band that was considered too extreme from that period, the Velvet Underground, is now considered one of the best bands of the period (1965-73).

@cerealflakes12

Жыл бұрын

My local classic rock station when I was a kid never once played Velvet Underground. They played maybe one David Bowie song. I never heard T Rex, Roxy Music, Black Sabbath, and many others. But if you liked the Eagles, you'd be in heaven

@delusionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

The Silver Apples come to mind, whose first single came out in 1968 and had an album the year after. None of these Classic Rock people care about them - their vocals are pure 1960s, but everything else? Hell, it shares more in common with the industrial alienation of Portishead's "Third" or even Throbbing Gristle than anything on the Nuggets album.

@MrJohndoakes

Жыл бұрын

@@delusionnnnn Yeah, the Silver Apples are part of that late-'60s experimental wing of rock music, them and Lothar & the Hand People (those guys were using early synths and a Theremin to produce psychedelic rock.) Never played on the classic rock stations.

@MrJohndoakes

Жыл бұрын

@@cerealflakes12 Black Sabbath is more "early heavy metal" and if your town had a metal station, they played it, but T Rex, Roxy Music, and Bowie should be on any decent Classic Rock station. The Eagles are so played to death, they should just play the songs backward to see if they sound more interesting (I know for a fact that "Hotel California" sounds better in reverse.)

Even in the classic rock genre the demands of mixing and mastering, quantization and processing of vocals doesn't make it all so classic afterall. The needle didn't move with gatekeepers until we started to collaborate with the Terminators at Skynet. 🤖

@gustavmarie

Жыл бұрын

For many rock n rock purists in the 70s and beyond, anything recorded after Sgt. Pepper's was a heresy. Essnetially, 'pop' production aesthetics started to edge out the raw live intensity found in early rock n roll. It's one thing the more 'traditionalist' side of punk rock wanted to get back to.

The one Beetles song I genuinely like is Helter Skelter. The rubber ducky sounds go hard

The entire premise of the R&R HOF seems to be to get people talking about their museum, reasonable enough. If the goal were to memorialize the history of rock music, they would induct like ten artists a month. Instead, it's an annual thing full of hard choices and controversy whose primary goal is to remind you there's an R&R HOF. Kind of like how the hot dog lobby hand delivers article on "the proper way to eat and serve a hot dog" every spring to keep hot dogs in the public consciousness during "grilling season" and outdoor holidays.

@sethshaffer681

Жыл бұрын

I'm nominating Hot Dogs and Tacos for the Sandwich HOF.

@delusionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

@@sethshaffer681 Hot (dog) takes.

@MrJohndoakes

Жыл бұрын

It's a very bad way to talk about rock music, having a "Hall of Fame" instead of a "Museum of American Popular Music" that talks about where the music came from (folk music, country, blues, gospel, rhythm and blues, Tin Pan Alley, and musicians with classical training like John Cale), and all the variations of it, and the forgotten wings of it, and so on, treating it like a natural history museum of music and not a bunch of famous names.

@delusionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

@@MrJohndoakes Yep, it's a short list because that keeps the organization in the news. The heat is the point.

This is absolutely amazing. I'm the first one to post.

@RememberShuffle

Жыл бұрын

how about "First" guys

@bigolwhiteguy

Жыл бұрын

Hmm… I’m not seeing it.

I worked with one of these guys..in the year of the lord 2020s, dude still drives an iroc-z, only wears clothes that were made before 89, and love telling us sampling isn't music lol. The best way to tweak him is tell him guitars are stupid or that rush sucks lol

Instead of listening to any of the nominees which I could easily do on youtube, I'll just read the first paragraph of their Wikipedia pages. I'm big into music, by the way

In all fairness, the classic rock guy's grudge against Jan Wenner isn't entirely unjustified (though totally for the wrong reasons), he is partially the reason punk didn't break in the states in the late 70s as it did in the UK. Rolling Stone barely touched it at the time and did nothing to cover up and coming bands and local scenes.

The cool classic rock guys like Blue Oyster Cult This stuff is hilarious. I'm a consumate classic rock guy myself, but I'm also an intense 20th century classical guy with a minor in being a hip hop head. I'm lots of guys. Do I contradict myself? Fuck it, I contradict myself. Be all kinds of guy divertere and diversus are two different Latin words, so not the same root actually. Kate Bush is incredible

the long rumoured 4th chapo

@MrJohndoakes

Жыл бұрын

Are Amber Frost and the MIA Virgil Texas chopped liver to you?

@nubertuberluber

Жыл бұрын

I thought the Chapo Brothers had the Chapo Sister, Amber?

Shitting on Rush, a past time...

Also you can't be a classic rock guy without mentioning in every convo about the importance of Brian Wilson or fuckkng "Pet Sounds"

Google Eddie Trunk and rock and roll hall of fame to get a good idea of who these people are

@gustavmarie

Жыл бұрын

Eddie Trunk: reminding the people about the artistic relevance of Enuff n Z'nuff since 2005.

For real, Americans have a *really* weird concept of rock, lol.