Children being ‘let down’ by NHS gender identity service, Cass report finds

How should young people questioning their gender identity be treated by medics? Dr Hilary Cass's long-awaited report is an attempt to separate that question from the often toxic debate that surrounds it.
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Her recommendations of better research, the standardisation of treatment, a more holistic approach, were welcomed in many quarters.
But what does it actually mean for young trans people and their families?
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  • @peterm.4355
    @peterm.4355Ай бұрын

    Less tiktok, less instagram, less propaganda, more actual mental care and help for young people.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    And when mental healthcare isn't enough, let them go further to find the relief they absolutely need.

  • @gloriajean8024

    @gloriajean8024

    Ай бұрын

    Not until they are adults capable of making the permanent irreversable decisions that will effect their bodies and render them infertile.

  • @jaws392

    @jaws392

    Ай бұрын

    And better parenting! These children are not the only ones making these decisions.

  • @Jenny-nz8fb

    @Jenny-nz8fb

    Ай бұрын

    @r-platt - there’s no evidence for this type of “healthcare”. Leave kids alone.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jenny-nz8fb Other than 103 studies and 27 years of empirical evidence you are absolutely correct. Trans kids exist. Stop pretending forcing them through normal puberty does no harm.

  • @joannesmith7744
    @joannesmith7744Ай бұрын

    Not ideology on all side. Completely untrue. One side wanted discussion , research etc. the other threatened their jobs.

  • @nellymoo635

    @nellymoo635

    Ай бұрын

    100%

  • @Aarenby

    @Aarenby

    Ай бұрын

    How do you double blind hormones?

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    So true. Gender dysphoria isn't an ideology. The diagnosis and treatment aren't ideologies. They're part of an *extremely effective* evidence-based treatment protocol that's been under development for 70 years. 2% regret PROVES the vast majority are being helped.

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    Ай бұрын

    @@AarenbyClearly you’re not a physician or scientist. Research the Scientific Method. You should have learned about it in grade school.

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    Ай бұрын

    ⁠@@r-plattThat’s NOT how evidence works. I fondly recall when the uneducated in various subjects didn’t feign expertise by tossing about online anecdotes.

  • @FemmeNatal
    @FemmeNatalАй бұрын

    Dr Jekyll continuing the revenue stream. Disgusting.

  • @jacquelinetaylor8683
    @jacquelinetaylor8683Ай бұрын

    The private clinic is the same people who were treating the children in the NHS clinics responsible for this scandal!!!!!! Are they really the right people to be running a clinic licensed to treat children.

  • @gisellemagraibhaigh8342

    @gisellemagraibhaigh8342

    Ай бұрын

    Of course they're not! He's continuing the grift til the very end, what a demon 🤑

  • @lorna5193

    @lorna5193

    Ай бұрын

    Listening to this Dr. I would say that nothing has really changed and they will continue to promote the cult. Total denial. These are crimes against children and should be seen as such.

  • @LukeMovement1

    @LukeMovement1

    Ай бұрын

    Scandal? You're having a laugh right? No one with a functioning brain says that and means it

  • @Jennyeq
    @Jennyeq2 ай бұрын

    "Confused children being permanently disfigured due to a complicit health service"

  • @dreamer72

    @dreamer72

    2 ай бұрын

    Doesn't happen you are being mind controlled by demonic nazis.

  • @tauenjoyer305

    @tauenjoyer305

    2 ай бұрын

    Tell me you don't understand trans people without telling me

  • @utredutredson1686

    @utredutredson1686

    2 ай бұрын

    And it starts in schools. The schools nudge the students in that direction. I asked my sons school to show me the 'personal development material that they are teaching him. They sent me a link to the youtube playlist by AMAZE. It is shocking but explains the explosion of transgender children. It's basically grooming.

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tauenjoyer305Maybe you should actually read the review.

  • @tauenjoyer305

    @tauenjoyer305

    2 ай бұрын

    @@FiredUpFeminist the Cass report you mean?

  • @TheClaire0304
    @TheClaire03042 ай бұрын

    We've been telling you for years, but you called us phobic and heinous. Puberty blockers are not a harmless pause, but very powerful drugs with unknown long-term effects.

  • @user-tw9cg9zv2n

    @user-tw9cg9zv2n

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry but that isn't what the report says, It says there was no evidence it improved the quality of life of the patient when taking them, She also said there was no evidence of potential harms , So what your saying is not factually true because there is no studies that show puberty do cause harm, that what it says in the report, she dismissed 50 studies showing it did help with quality of life, But they are doing a study now , so some children who partake in that study and will get puberty blockers.

  • @TheClaire0304

    @TheClaire0304

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-tw9cg9zv2n here we go again 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @Tribuneoftheplebs

    @Tribuneoftheplebs

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@user-tw9cg9zv2n they dismissed the studies because they aren't double blind and are trash studies

  • @antonygriffith9048

    @antonygriffith9048

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-tw9cg9zv2nif it does no good then what’s the point in it all because kids are getting confused by the bs and now that a report is out and your experiments are getting shut down you can’t keep drugging and mutilating kids.

  • @G-AHM

    @G-AHM

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-tw9cg9zv2n apologies not accepted…. 😂 GnHR ( gonadotropin releasing hormone analogues) are not “blockers”, they are castration agents……. Irreversible harm. It’s shocking you think you can calls things “factually inacurate”…. We have been telling them for years, Claire! All my support to you x Gay kids aren’t sick. Lesbians exist. Men can wear dresses and bad wigs….. but no child was ever or will ever be born in the wrong body.

  • @menwithven8114
    @menwithven81142 ай бұрын

    Of all the terrible things that have happened throughout history im actually embarrassed in the current day and age with the amount of technology and information we have that we took all of this and just became ignorant. I can argue or understand just about any general topic in good faith. This is pretty much the only singular specific topic where I will judge a person's character and intelligence immediately based in their views on this

  • @Yojimbojoneskoko

    @Yojimbojoneskoko

    Ай бұрын

    Argue or understand 😂

  • @plurabelle5

    @plurabelle5

    Ай бұрын

    You should judge a person's character equally on whether they speak up to end the genocide in Gaza, and the 15000 children who were blown up. Otherwise you only care about Western children

  • @ApacheMagic

    @ApacheMagic

    Ай бұрын

    I can see why

  • @LukeMovement1

    @LukeMovement1

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, everyone thinks they are doctors nowadays

  • @ZoeHills-eh9pq
    @ZoeHills-eh9pqАй бұрын

    It was the clinicians that wanted to continue with lobotomies and public pressure that ended them. I sick of people putting all their faith in the so called professionals and dismissing public concern.

  • @davidg7643

    @davidg7643

    Ай бұрын

    Psychiatrists had concerns about lobotomy since the 40s.

  • @EthanLomas

    @EthanLomas

    Ай бұрын

    Next time you need cancer treatment, don’t see an oncologist expert - go to google and find yourself a healer. No? 🤔

  • @Happydrumstick93

    @Happydrumstick93

    Ай бұрын

    @@davidg7643 They were so concerned they created a new kind of lobotomy called electroconvulsive therapy which is still being used today. Still damages the brain, but it's not as obvious.

  • @elkpaz560

    @elkpaz560

    Ай бұрын

    @@davidg7643 There are always people with integrity in professions but the methods of coercion are increasingly vicious.

  • @davidg7643

    @davidg7643

    Ай бұрын

    @@Happydrumstick93 i know people who have really benefitted from it

  • @NewSpirituality
    @NewSpiritualityАй бұрын

    The WPATH Files and The Cass Report: I hope these help to bring an end to this insanity. Everyone that was complicit in this, celebrities, politicians, teachers, the media, etc, needs to be held to account.

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    Ай бұрын

    Both this you have cited are highly discredited. Those "complicit" in it include every major medical organisation in the world. The entire world

  • @theresearcher253

    @theresearcher253

    Ай бұрын

    @@JackFury Nonsense. Most of these 'captured' medical organisations cite WPATH as the source of their truth. This is a well funded cult, not a grass roots movement.

  • @theresearcher253

    @theresearcher253

    Ай бұрын

    @@JackFury Discredited?...unlike the completely skewed rubbish from the other side conducted by biased researchers with tiny, hand picked, samples? The Cass Report has blown such a hole in gender ideology that even Wes Streeton (ex Stonewall, now shadow health minster) can't ignore it. Even Baroness Hunt (ex head of Stonewall) has accepted that mistakes have been made. By calling the Cass Report, 'discredited', frankly you make yourself appear ignorant beyond belief.

  • @Smudgyglasses

    @Smudgyglasses

    Ай бұрын

    Discredited by who? ​@@JackFury

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    Ай бұрын

    @@Smudgyglasses researchers, medical experts, professors, journalists. Pick one. None of you have read any of it. You know you haven't so why are you so confident

  • @G-AHM
    @G-AHM2 ай бұрын

    “Birth registered” 🤦

  • @G-AHM

    @G-AHM

    2 ай бұрын

    Simultaneously completely normal, something to be celebrated…. ….. and…. …. Somthing which requires medical intervention and treatment. Gay kids aren’t sick. Lesbians exist

  • @G-AHM

    @G-AHM

    2 ай бұрын

    (Can’t remember who I’ve stolen that insightful commentary from) x

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    2 ай бұрын

    Spot on! It’s OK to be gay or lesbian. Trans activists/influencers must stop trying to convince gay kids there’s something wrong with them! It’s fine to be gay or lesbian. Kids are perfect the way they are.

  • @tommj5201

    @tommj5201

    Ай бұрын

    Small step up from "assigned at birth" I guess.

  • @G-AHM

    @G-AHM

    Ай бұрын

    @@tommj5201 nah, it is equally false and misleading for kids - just st00pi’d

  • @danmystro
    @danmystro2 ай бұрын

    Can't drink, can't get a tattoo, can't join up, can't buy aerosol, but sure here's some life altering surgery/chemicals

  • @dreamer72

    @dreamer72

    2 ай бұрын

    Puberty Blockers are not life altering you mind controlled ill person.

  • @notmyrealnameyo

    @notmyrealnameyo

    2 ай бұрын

    Spot on

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    2 ай бұрын

    Truth.

  • @szefo617

    @szefo617

    Ай бұрын

    To be fair everything you listed includes life altering chemicals (or near permanent body modification in case of tattoos). And we know those substances to be dangerous regardless of age. The case of gender affirming care is the opposite. It improves quality of life in adults and it can improve quality of life in many adolescent patients.

  • @jimthompson9370

    @jimthompson9370

    Ай бұрын

    @@szefo617- maybe for a few, but clearly not for the majority. This sick cult is being stopped, and for good reason.

  • @alc8463
    @alc8463Ай бұрын

    Dr Aidan Kelly, in my view, needs to be monitored very very closely. He is at the coal face and very likely to cross a line. Who is going to stop him or his colleagues if they make a decision that is harmful to the child?

  • @khtnsuwdih
    @khtnsuwdihАй бұрын

    Sad to reflect that the only winners in this are going to be the lawyers.

  • @reggrunow1460

    @reggrunow1460

    Ай бұрын

    And all the gender confused kids that will not be delivered to these appalling activists. Many will be saved from terrible life changing experiments, and left to simply grow out of their confused phase as we know the vast majority do.

  • @pjdilans1

    @pjdilans1

    Ай бұрын

    But if it was wrong treatment, wrong schooling, wrong parental advice, wrongful use for far reaching celebrity platforms or influencers. Then that should carry with it damages. Some detransitioners have had their lives ruined by this. I mean no more sexual pleasure, urinary tract infections, constant pain, impossible to very difficult to now find a life partner in light of the above and potential infertility, or now only very expensive methods to now have their own children. Theres been a lot of bad advice and damage done, its been irresponsible and it should carry with it damages. If theres no punative fines to pay. Then theres no deterent of it ever happening again. So yeah I think people sewing this bad advice should never be allowed to work in healthcare in any capacity, because they really were not working in the best interests of their patients.

  • @ftlpopeepopltf541
    @ftlpopeepopltf541Ай бұрын

    I think that Channel 4's pathetic wokeness has prevented from them dealing with this properly.

  • @magnuskallas

    @magnuskallas

    Ай бұрын

    All woke will fail sooner or later. People can't deal with obvious SICK.

  • @RuthRandoms

    @RuthRandoms

    27 күн бұрын

    They're not the only channel doing that! We're being brainwashed by TV / Media in general.

  • @1nhof
    @1nhofАй бұрын

    Remember: children cannot consent.

  • @Pangurbawn
    @PangurbawnАй бұрын

    The child-modification industry is pivoting towards a private healthcare model, where they will be able to monetize the trauma of children with less public scrutiny. Lots of money to be made in this growing industry preying on vulnerable people.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    Oh, thank goodness there's a way for some to get around this nightmare. This horrible "report" has kicked the trans genocide to the next level. The only thing keeping us alive is Israel being top story.

  • @AntonioRivera28

    @AntonioRivera28

    Ай бұрын

    even in public its monetized. they still have to buy the medicine from pharma companies

  • @lorna5193

    @lorna5193

    Ай бұрын

    True. For every child sent down this pathway they are worth one million dollars. Medicalising children for LIFE is big business, however, it's the children who will ultimately pay with their mental and physical health.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@lorna5193 because birth control pills for 0.6% of the population is big business... 98% of trans children become trans adults who medically require HRT. Forcing trans children down the wrong puberty requires MORE medicine and MORE surgery.

  • @LukeMovement1

    @LukeMovement1

    Ай бұрын

    So you have evidence of this claim?

  • @Stevejoesofficial
    @Stevejoesofficial2 ай бұрын

    INSANITY

  • @Weirdsinbad
    @Weirdsinbad2 ай бұрын

    Poor kids have no idea that it's only cosmetic and that by messing with their body chemistry, they preventing it from growing and being stable as they age. Leads to horrible health problems, brittle bones and a broken body and mind.

  • @THB192

    @THB192

    2 ай бұрын

    Cool opinion. However, over here in reality, absolutely nothing you just said is meaningfully substantiated by evidence.

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    2 ай бұрын

    @@THB192Ironic that you used the word “reality.” That’s what trans people preach against. 😂

  • @tommj5201

    @tommj5201

    2 ай бұрын

    ​​@@THB192...other than the 4 year independent review conducted by one of the countries top paediatric clinicians that jusy so happened to readh similar conclusions as Finland and Sweden, two progressive countries wirh top social health services?

  • @JustSway

    @JustSway

    Ай бұрын

    @@THB192 Yeah. Over hear in reality trans is just an identity, a mask if you will. Trans man is just a woman impersonating a man. That's just as real as it gets.

  • @tentaclepawn1548

    @tentaclepawn1548

    Ай бұрын

    @@tommj5201 Which 4 year independent review said any of those things, exactly? Because if you're talking about the Cass review, heads up, it didn't.

  • @LUA_LUA_LUA
    @LUA_LUA_LUAАй бұрын

    Ps, Channel 4, LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE.

  • @Adnaan98-ONIIL
    @Adnaan98-ONIIL2 ай бұрын

    I don’t feel sorry for the children but the parents some of them don’t even understand the whole process. I’m gay myself from a Muslim background and I never came out I’m still in the closet. I’m in the closet because I love my mum and I don’t want her to go insane she is deeply religious and I know how she feels about homosexuality she will probably loose friends things will never be the same for her I would rather stay in the closet so my mum can have a functioning life rather then going insane and when I tell you I’m happy I really mean it because I’m ready to sacrifice for the person I love. We don’t let children buy cigarettes alcohol how can we allow them to decide about their gender at such young age.

  • @Vacaiable

    @Vacaiable

    Ай бұрын

    You sound like a very beautiful person. I hope one day you can openly be the person you really are.

  • @gisellemagraibhaigh8342

    @gisellemagraibhaigh8342

    Ай бұрын

    I'm really sorry you have to hide who you love - I'm sure I already know the answer but....would it have solved your problems if your parents were told you were a girl? Trapped in a male body? Have your genitals removed and pretended to be a straight female? Because I've heard that is exactly what is happening in strictly religious countries - the ultimate homophobic conversion therapy 😭

  • @felixthecatboy

    @felixthecatboy

    Ай бұрын

    im sorry you have to life that way, and im even more sorry your mom cant love you for who you really are.

  • @NigelFartzirage

    @NigelFartzirage

    Ай бұрын

    Because gender issues can make them hurt themselves. Not being able to buy alcohol or cigarettes doesn’t make them do that.

  • @rosebush3166

    @rosebush3166

    Ай бұрын

    You are very intelligent, mature and brave.

  • @BaronSpamedi
    @BaronSpamediАй бұрын

    Does Channel 4 want to take any responsibility for the damage caused to young children by this quack 'science', as the channel has often acted as a propaganda outlet for trans activism, and has often enabled and contributed to the smearing of those critical as 'transphobic'. Do you feel any guilt at all?

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    So we need to stop treating central precocious puberty. That's puberty blockers in use since 1980. And we need to stop giving TEEN girls breast augmentation / reduction and rhinoplasty (nose surgery) and TEEN boys mastectomies. Those surgeries _literally_ occur about 100,000 times more often than trans surgeries. And all they require is 1 parent to agree. And we need to stop giving girls birth control pills until they're 18. Gee... there is so much medicine we need to unwind to meet your goals.

  • @felixthecatboy

    @felixthecatboy

    Ай бұрын

    there has been a less than 2% regret rate on transition, whats your issue exactly? do tell me did you ever talk to a trans person or try to understand them?

  • @BaronSpamedi

    @BaronSpamedi

    Ай бұрын

    @@felixthecatboy over 80% of people grow out of this nonsense just by going through puberty.

  • @heatherchapman1984
    @heatherchapman1984Ай бұрын

    All this talk of losing the "expertise" of those with years working with trans children misses the fact that these distressed children need clinicians who will first see them as individual human beings, not trans avatars born in the wrong body. A bunch of idealogues working in medicine became SO CERTAIN of one insufficiently-tested protocol which centered around an insufficiently defined or evidenced concept, gender, and another suspect theory coming out of Psychology (which has a long history of pathologizing natural human variation), so that they were unable to recognize an entirely new cohort of mentally distressed children, which differ from the earlier group in very important and varied ways.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    There's a great deal of expertise and evidence. Cass decided only very specific studies qualified. People might have been fleeing Tavistock because they had thousands of patients but only the capacity for a few dozen. It's amazing how Cass can say there's not enough evidence to support use of puberty blockers yet concludes it's harmful. And their reasons have _nothing_ to do with effectiveness or safety.

  • @ApacheMagic

    @ApacheMagic

    Ай бұрын

    @@r-plattshe hadn’t concluded them harmful. She’s concluded that they are untested and the evidence to say they are helpful is not solid nor sufficient to prove the case.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@ApacheMagic Actually puberty blockers ARE tested and safe for children. Her issue is the tests were for a different condition. (14.6) That's like saying Tylenol is unsafe for an aching broken arm because it wasn't tested for that condition.

  • @marcusaxel3425
    @marcusaxel3425Ай бұрын

    One thing the Cass Review has proven is that we should stop referring to these kids as 'trans', use 'gender questioning' maybe. A 14 yo 'trans' kid may change their mind in 6 months if left alone medically and psychologically. Counseling is fine but not counseling that only 'affirms.' As this scandal is studied in coming years, we'll likely see that the manipulation of language and meaning had a lot to do with it. This movement has appropriated the 'conversion therapy' issue from the LGB movement. Changing the meaning and weaponizing it to go after any dissenters.

  • @Pangurbawn
    @PangurbawnАй бұрын

    An adult professional affirming a child's concern that they are 'born in the wrong body' is committing an act of evil.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    So you want them to stay in the closet... where it's cold, dark, lonely, and terrifying. You want to keep them in a place where joy and hope die. And that's good?

  • @Jenny-nz8fb

    @Jenny-nz8fb

    Ай бұрын

    @r-platt you need to stop advocating terrible harms for children and pay attention to your own motives.

  • @clairhonnor6211

    @clairhonnor6211

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jenny-nz8fb exactly, we shan't forget who the men are pushing this narrative.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jenny-nz8fb What terrible harms? Learn what children ACTUALLY experience. My motives are simple: NO CHILD SHOULD EXPERIENCE THE TERROR, HURT AND DAMAGE I DID. I lived the life you would have for these children and it severely crippled me.

  • @symore-butts

    @symore-butts

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@r-plattWhat harms? You clearly have not read the report. Take a look at the cass report before sperging out and typing in all cap, it makes you look unstable.

  • @spark7922
    @spark79222 ай бұрын

    Kids who are known for poor decision making skills now won't be able to make drastic changes that will affect them for the rest of their lives? Good.

  • @WilliamAhlert

    @WilliamAhlert

    2 ай бұрын

    Only the most drastic of gender affirming care is permanent. Puberty blockers and hormone treatments are reversible, social transitioning is obviously reversible, it's literally just a hair cut and change of codes, vocal chord surgeries aren't really useful for kids whose voices are changing regardless. You're more likely to regret a tattoo than gender affirming care, and that's a statistical fact.

  • @DorianPaige00

    @DorianPaige00

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfire Adults are next for elimination in care. Legislators in the US are speaking in tongues in state houses so we are going to get a current Biblical interpretation of what society should be like in our laws. I don't think Biblical eunuchs will however be allowed to enter.

  • @dreamer72

    @dreamer72

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DorianPaige00 This is Nazi rhetoric

  • @FiredUpFeminist

    @FiredUpFeminist

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DorianPaige00Which legislator?

  • @DorianPaige00

    @DorianPaige00

    2 ай бұрын

    @@FiredUpFeminist Legislators in Arizona before the abortion fight a few days ago.

  • @NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA
    @NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA2 ай бұрын

    12:30 . Thank you. We don’t affirm anorexia or any other mental health disorder.

  • @alice1374

    @alice1374

    2 ай бұрын

    Gender Dysphoria (Gender Incongruence) isn't a mental health disorder anymore. And also, why are you comparing it to anorexia? that's not a good comparison to be made.

  • @tserica

    @tserica

    2 ай бұрын

    Being trans isn't a disorder.

  • @NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA

    @NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tserica gender dysphoria isn’t a disorder?

  • @tserica

    @tserica

    2 ай бұрын

    @@NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA no. And it's also not the same thing as being trans.

  • @NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA

    @NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tsericareally? Do tell me more

  • @hkhenry2837
    @hkhenry2837Ай бұрын

    From the website of Dr Aidan Kelly and his private clinic, their team consists mostly of clinical psychologist, and only one psychiatrist. There is no paediatrician ,endocrinologist or surgeon to safeguard the children's physical health. Who will be responsible for explaining and follow up the side effects of the medications or surgery?

  • @9395gb
    @9395gbАй бұрын

    The child saying that they were going through puberty and were distressed and had no one to talk to.....why didnt the mother talk to her biological daughter and help her understand puberty and her bodies changes. What happened to parenting?

  • @anarquistador2099

    @anarquistador2099

    Ай бұрын

    Because her "biological daughter" was actually her son, and what makes you think she didn't help HIM understand puberty?

  • @johndillinger5142

    @johndillinger5142

    Ай бұрын

    Social media has captured sheepish people on a global scale. It's incredible anyone is still trying to push this. I think a lot of it is doubling down on a bad idea because they probably can't cope with their part in the mutilation of their child.

  • @kellymarieapplebee

    @kellymarieapplebee

    Ай бұрын

    @@anarquistador2099 You cannot assume your usual nonsense is going to work on people the more this cult is exposed, the cass report release has been momentous in marking the first step to returning to some semblance of sanity. Two years I have been researching this mess, reading paper after paper, listening to both sides, crying myself listening to people who have undergone irreversible procedures and pharmaceutical measures that they can never go back from. You are screaming into the mist my friend. We do not hear you.

  • @johndillinger5142

    @johndillinger5142

    Ай бұрын

    @@anarquistador2099 Coco pops

  • @gisellemagraibhaigh8342

    @gisellemagraibhaigh8342

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@anarquistador2099 her biological daughter is still her biological daughter - and will be forevermore. Regardless of how many falsehoods she's been told, her moronic mother should have cared enough to find counselling for her distressed daughter if she wasn't capable of parenting through this phase. Instead she sat and waited like a blob because she's delegating authority to incompetent strangers 🙄

  • @linmorell1813
    @linmorell1813Ай бұрын

    No child should be given puberty blockers, they should be counselled and make decisions on their bodies when they are old enough to make informed decide as adults.

  • @felixthecatboy

    @felixthecatboy

    Ай бұрын

    just because you want children to be your property, they are not. they are human beings with minds of their own.

  • @Jaylio

    @Jaylio

    Ай бұрын

    @@felixthecatboychildren cannot consent to being sterilised and if you think they are, you are either a child or predator

  • @Areflection4
    @Areflection4Ай бұрын

    In contrast, Dr David Bell presents a more thoughtful response eg the role of the unchecked 'affirmation' as a Human Rights directive absent of any clinical consideration - children self diagnosing and Doctors handing out hormone blockers like sweets or candy.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    Bell took issue with Tavistock "fast tracking" some children. They weren't following the rules and that WAS a problem. Nothing Bell said changes the effectiveness or safety of puberty blockers. Meanwhile EVERYONE agrees these children (even those that desist) need of help. But England is going _backward_ in care.

  • @angelabrooke5059

    @angelabrooke5059

    17 күн бұрын

    @@r-platt We do not know that puberty blockers are safe. No long term research

  • @chinchilla2971
    @chinchilla29712 ай бұрын

    Their being let down by not being told the truth.

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    Why is the entire medical world lying?

  • @Sayyidkadhimi

    @Sayyidkadhimi

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JackFuryNot the entire, but a lot are due to politics not due to objectivity.

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Sayyidkadhimi Every. Single. Reputable. Medical. Organisation. In. The. World. The only politics here is the right wing being bigots

  • @timpullen4941

    @timpullen4941

    2 ай бұрын

    They're

  • @dreamer72

    @dreamer72

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Sayyidkadhimi The cass review threw out decades of evidence because of politics.

  • @phily8716
    @phily87162 ай бұрын

    Watch the people who were too cowardly to speak out when it wasn't socially safe, come out the woodwork pretending to care

  • @clairhonnor6211

    @clairhonnor6211

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, the ' benefit of the doubt' will only be extended for so long.

  • @gruunt4064

    @gruunt4064

    Ай бұрын

    the reality is everyone thinks they would speak up but this shows you that isn't true in reality, we can all be brave when anonymous on KZread but when you are the only person in a workplace where dissent is career suicide the more likely outcome is you would be just as cowardly, let's not pretend you wouldn't, these are not evil people they were either wrapped up in an ideology or they were scared

  • @phily8716

    @phily8716

    Ай бұрын

    @gruunt4064 nah mate, I've been against this from the start and I've used my social media profiles with my full name and ugly face in full view 😂 I've got bills to pat too. When it comes to things like this I'll argue with the entire world if I believe its right. We're talking about innocent children.

  • @mjones8170

    @mjones8170

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@phily8716I agree.

  • @jesuschrist02
    @jesuschrist022 ай бұрын

    "Ideology has directed care rather than the normal process of pediatrics and psycology (science or reason) directing care".

  • @WilliamAhlert

    @WilliamAhlert

    2 ай бұрын

    What's the point of a quote if you have no source for it? That's just your quote.

  • @NemeczeK101

    @NemeczeK101

    2 ай бұрын

    @@WilliamAhlert Well it's true, you think the NHS is transitioning children out of the kindness of their hearts?

  • @jesuschrist02

    @jesuschrist02

    2 ай бұрын

    @@WilliamAhlert it's a quote from the video. Which you clearly havnt watched.

  • @darrentaylor1414

    @darrentaylor1414

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@WilliamAhlertyou need to go for a lie down lad, you've been owned more times than the tower of London.

  • @tserica

    @tserica

    2 ай бұрын

    Being trans isn't an ideology, but hating trans people absolutely is.

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979Ай бұрын

    That autistic child should be protected from this ideology. Be the adult in the room.

  • @LukeMovement1

    @LukeMovement1

    Ай бұрын

    It's not an ideology. People with ASD are actually more prone to needing treatment for this sort of thing. Protesting medical treatment for an already vulnerable child isn't protecting anyone.

  • @intrusive-th0t

    @intrusive-th0t

    Ай бұрын

    @@LukeMovement1I’m autistic and asked for puberty blockers when I was 11 and I’m glad I didn’t get them because I didn’t deserve to be sterilized

  • @Glenda-px4we
    @Glenda-px4we2 ай бұрын

    C4 deliberately missing the point of the cass report

  • @hamonryechinaski180

    @hamonryechinaski180

    2 ай бұрын

    💯 we're going to see a lot of this. Those that yelled bigot and ran with an ideology instead of checking the facts. C4 and too many at the BBC are primary offenders. To talk of toxic debate is ridiculous

  • @nellymoo635

    @nellymoo635

    Ай бұрын

    Agenda

  • @stewartyboy
    @stewartyboy2 ай бұрын

    I think this issue could have been far less controversial if we'd heard from more informed, sensible and reasonable voices like Dr Bell's in recent years instead of the 'lived experience' of patients and the ideological posturing of trans activists.

  • @jtownblues7237

    @jtownblues7237

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry, I'm confused as to why you don't want to hear about the transgender issue from transgender people? To me the most sensible way to learn about a group is to speak to people from that group.

  • @stewartyboy

    @stewartyboy

    Ай бұрын

    @@jtownblues7237 the patients’ experience is for the medical professionals to hear and deal with as far as I’m concerned; I’m more interested in hearing the views of the experts who can share data, their professional insights and provide an overall picture of the issue and its implications.

  • @jtownblues7237

    @jtownblues7237

    Ай бұрын

    @@stewartyboy Yes but surely there are transgender researchers and doctors? I would trust them over doctors who are not transgender for the same reason I would trust a female doctor over a male one to speak on women's health.

  • @errin-mp1zy

    @errin-mp1zy

    Ай бұрын

    @@jtownblues7237 Would that be a female doctor as in adult human female or a female doctor who used to be male but had mental heath issues and now presents as female?

  • @jtownblues7237

    @jtownblues7237

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@errin-mp1zy Sorry I don't understand your question, a female doctor as in a doctor who is a woman (therefore obviously an adult and a human). Ideally I would try to find someone who has experienced what they are explaining, eg; if I wanted to learn about menopause I'd look to a doctor who had experienced menopause.

  • @marijaapril2027
    @marijaapril20272 ай бұрын

    Comments make me hopeful in humanity

  • @HVS-gk7oo
    @HVS-gk7ooАй бұрын

    The child needs a therapist for their mental health, not hormones. If she still suffer from gender dysphoria at 18, she can transition in a couple of years.

  • @Chadmon1

    @Chadmon1

    Ай бұрын

    @@frankiedsp I can give you some very good advice right now, you're a young vulnerable person so you need to stay clear of the comments section.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    Because forcing a MAN to go through female puberty won't hurt, right? Just give him counseling and all will be good.

  • @The_New_Abnormal_World_Order

    @The_New_Abnormal_World_Order

    Ай бұрын

    @@r-platt 🤣🤦‍♀

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@Borella309 We? GnRHa are used in numerous medical treatments FAR more profitable than a tiny handful of trans children. NOT using puberty blockers results in MORE surgeries and MORE dependence on drugs like antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds.

  • @xduwu4257

    @xduwu4257

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@r-platt puberty is an important part of development. a natural bodily process occurring is not 'forcing' anything. also why are some drugs good to you, but it seems you're implying use of more antidepressants and anxiety meds is bad?

  • @littleboots9800
    @littleboots9800Ай бұрын

    This girl says that speaking to someone wouldve helped but what she means is someone who wouldve affirmed her. They have an expectation of what they want from medical professionals and if they dont get it from one they move on to look for one that will give them what they want. Her and her mother likely wouldve not accepted help or advice from a doctor who said "Im not sure you are trans, I think maybe your autism/body dysmorphia/past trauma/whatever else is the cause of your distress. Lets explore that." They probably wouldve called them 'transphobic' or reported them for being 'non affirming.'

  • @Bringon-dw8dx

    @Bringon-dw8dx

    Ай бұрын

    This is a huge issue I saw in my brief time working in CAMHS, particularly in girls with ASD. So many had their anxiety around puberty combined with their ASD interpreted by their parents as body dysmorphia and then nothing else mattered

  • @anitaannie6957
    @anitaannie6957Ай бұрын

    Help kids be comfortable with their own bodies and identities instead 😢

  • @leelee287
    @leelee2872 ай бұрын

    This world is sick !!

  • @susanwilliams6260

    @susanwilliams6260

    2 ай бұрын

    Hear Hear!

  • @barbarahalkyard1901

    @barbarahalkyard1901

    2 ай бұрын

    Without a doubt.

  • @leelee287

    @leelee287

    2 ай бұрын

    Is there a cure ?

  • @phoenixrising5088

    @phoenixrising5088

    2 ай бұрын

    Parents need to stop this nonsense. ​@@leelee287

  • @claudiaxander

    @claudiaxander

    Ай бұрын

    So it needs appropriate medical treatment. Not politically driven scaremongering and scapegoating. Just science please. Of the 2.7 percent that regret transition, the vast majority say its because of social and familial rejection and not due to them making a mistake about their brains gender.

  • @The-Spider-King
    @The-Spider-KingАй бұрын

    The Cass review was so needed, i absolutely hope that we can get on top of this social contagion. The medical experiments on kids have shown what they are and what they do, we need to get this back in check

  • @StormBringer5

    @StormBringer5

    Ай бұрын

    The Cass Review was the first big step in standing up to ideological activists. This is important because it also gives laypeople something to point to when questioning ideology without having to feel like a bigot. And that is essentially the crux of the issue-people scared they’ll be called a bigot if they say that this doesn’t sound right to them.

  • @thetwelfth9987
    @thetwelfth9987Ай бұрын

    The one thing all these children have in common is that one unquestionable thought in their head that goes like ‘oh so what if there are people who regret it? I’m one of the _real_ trans people, I’ll always be this way, I need this’ And then they’re wrong, but by the point they realize so they’ve been dragged too deep and there’s no going back.

  • @kennyinliverpool
    @kennyinliverpool2 ай бұрын

    No one is born in the wrong body. - Why isn't this the policy?

  • @josemengelez6947

    @josemengelez6947

    2 ай бұрын

    hermaphrodites disagree

  • @mariannehavisham8323

    @mariannehavisham8323

    2 ай бұрын

    The trans community don't use that language any more. It's outdated language.

  • @evesapple

    @evesapple

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfirewhat medical fact backs the assertion of being ‘born in the wrong body’?

  • @tserica

    @tserica

    2 ай бұрын

    If the NHS were offering body swap services, you might actually have a point.

  • @Democracy_Manifest

    @Democracy_Manifest

    2 ай бұрын

    Everyone should have a rot pocket apparently

  • @MarjorieStoker-oj8fh
    @MarjorieStoker-oj8fhАй бұрын

    Leave children alone

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979Ай бұрын

    That boy is not capable of consent.

  • @climaksy1659

    @climaksy1659

    13 күн бұрын

    @@heyeveryone123 are you trying to say that minors can consent?

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979Ай бұрын

    The medical pathway for children should lead to criminal charges.

  • @EcosseOuiser
    @EcosseOuiserАй бұрын

    If this young girl was confused and distressed about her body changing, why didn’t her mother help her more? She’s been through it herself! When did parents stop parenting & allow the state or social media to have so much influence on their children? Time for adults to stop pandering to distressed children! They will never become functioning adults without boundaries & proper support 😮

  • @Borella309

    @Borella309

    Ай бұрын

    What about this mother verbally nudging her daughter in the interview saying essentially "Don't forget to mention your "mental health" issues". Have now seen far too many interviews where its the confused teen and MOTHER talking about this.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    It's not confusion. It's knowing who you are in person is radically different from how you look. *The conflict* between self perception and obvious biology is what causes gender dysphoria. Either we rewire the brain to change their personality (impossible) or we reshape their body to reflect their person. Parents are listening to their children. _Children_ are the ones saying *SOMETHING IS WRONG.* You need to listen to the children, not the people politicians parade in front of you.

  • @sarahharris2729

    @sarahharris2729

    Ай бұрын

    Where's dad?

  • @RuthRandoms

    @RuthRandoms

    27 күн бұрын

    @@sarahharris2729 they're often told to shut up (if they're around at all). In the USA, a father was sued to not wanting to affirm his child's chosen gender, I think the kid was very young, like 5 or something. Father said no, and the mother took him to court and he was forced to shut-up and just affirm it. Look it up and you'll see.

  • @canadachandler7521
    @canadachandler7521Ай бұрын

    Hopefully they won't be lied to and mutilated now.

  • @anissah161
    @anissah1612 ай бұрын

    Teach kids to love selves, as they are - no pain of surgery or pill needed.

  • @NemeczeK101

    @NemeczeK101

    2 ай бұрын

    See that takes real effort and mental fortitude, which that 'mother' seems to lack. Shame on the west for letting this happen to it's children.

  • @anissah161

    @anissah161

    2 ай бұрын

    @NemeczeK101 please don't broad brushes the west. I'm in America and I've been speaking out for decades. 5th column, but it's finally being exposed and crumbling. Too slow in my opinion. There are many like me and a child is a blessing, God won't let these parents off the hook, nothing goes unseen.

  • @NemeczeK101

    @NemeczeK101

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anissah161 You said it yourself, too slow, and in my opinion, the west should have never let this happen in the first place to children. It's sick and disturbing.

  • @anissah161

    @anissah161

    2 ай бұрын

    @NemeczeK101 I agree - it's evil.

  • @anissah161

    @anissah161

    2 ай бұрын

    @vixenfire both homes are a hot mess. 😎

  • @lifesabeach9451
    @lifesabeach9451Ай бұрын

    When I recently got a puppy, my vet said that the latest research said that early spaying and neutering causes problems with bones and joints. Now I'm wondering if people are so different.

  • @pdxlasher
    @pdxlasherАй бұрын

    This obsession with puberty blockers and hormones is crazy. "Do you have puberty blockers or hormones? Will you be giving them to kid? How can kids get puberty blockers and hormones? Where can we get puberty blockers and hormones? Who has them? Where can we get them?"

  • @johnnyboy6707
    @johnnyboy6707Ай бұрын

    Poor Dr Cass has been advised not to take public transportation because of this. Transgender activists are nuts..but then I think we all knew that already anyway.

  • @kevinwilliams1768
    @kevinwilliams17682 ай бұрын

    as a foreigner I am very surprise to see the U.K. health care system in such shambles . It looks third world . This is sad for a country of first world status . I hope the issues get fix soon.

  • @cr9153

    @cr9153

    Ай бұрын

    This issue is a problem the world over.

  • @iv6872

    @iv6872

    Ай бұрын

    Government monopolies are always inefficient, slow, rigid, expensive, in shambles. This should not be surprising.

  • @drunkenhobo5039

    @drunkenhobo5039

    Ай бұрын

    @@iv6872 The main issue has been the privatisation of it.

  • @iv6872

    @iv6872

    Ай бұрын

    @@drunkenhobo5039 you mean the lack of a free market.

  • @drunkenhobo5039

    @drunkenhobo5039

    Ай бұрын

    @@iv6872 Lol, you're one of those.

  • @spicyskyraisin7745
    @spicyskyraisin77452 ай бұрын

    Not being A isn’t B. It’s lack of A … being atypical M or F is a huge part of what needs to be accepted by young people. So much social pressure to be typically M or F, … so many perfect ultra feminine girls and super cut boys and “alpha men” on social media…. this is all acted out in the school social arena where kids are brutal and unkind to those who “aren’t conforming to typical social standards”…. autistic kids are especially sensitive to social non conformity anxiety, this is contributing to children especially ASD kids believing bec they aren’t gender typical they must be the opposite gender when all it is is atypical presentations of their actual gender. It’s also a social conformity game and an adopted self assigned disability with protections for those in the “unique category” affording them legal protection under the wing of extreme activism. It’s a mental Health issue with its roots in trauma responses to be being often neurodiverse and / or the victim of childhood trauma.

  • @mariannehavisham8323

    @mariannehavisham8323

    2 ай бұрын

    They used tosay that about gay folk. They changed their mind. They will about this too in time

  • @mariannehavisham8323

    @mariannehavisham8323

    2 ай бұрын

    There is no medical evidence that suggests being lgbt is a result of childhood trauma. Psychology has moved on

  • @spicyskyraisin7745

    @spicyskyraisin7745

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mariannehavisham8323I hope not because if they carry on on this path there’ll be a complete genocide of all gay people! These people require dignity and proper support through the correct holistic medical pathways created and executed in the same way all medical pathways are enacted according to the Hippocratic oath, before any kind of pharmaceutical or surgical intervention when and only when they’re able to fully consent as adults.

  • @spicyskyraisin7745

    @spicyskyraisin7745

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@mariannehavisham8323well I hope not bec no one wants mass gen oh side of gay people (not a typo! just algorithm dodging).

  • @alice1374

    @alice1374

    Ай бұрын

    @@mariannehavisham8323 Exactly. 10 or 15 years down the line these "transphobes" will realise the damage they caused years ago by trying to restrict healthcare.

  • @jamesmanning6570
    @jamesmanning6570Ай бұрын

    This is good. lots of research. Holding off on decisions until people 100% know. She is doing a great job.

  • @laurateaho-white9654
    @laurateaho-white96542 ай бұрын

    The comments section is going to turn into a bloodbath.

  • @NemeczeK101

    @NemeczeK101

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, it's insanity how people can't defend the idea that children should be left alone.

  • @gavinbissell8847

    @gavinbissell8847

    2 ай бұрын

    Looks like most people are agreeing that it's child abuse

  • @AntonHoward-mx9sb

    @AntonHoward-mx9sb

    2 ай бұрын

    Let's hope so...

  • @perfect_chaos4217

    @perfect_chaos4217

    2 ай бұрын

    @@NemeczeK101On the media ... not on the comelments section only where everyone is brave

  • @Behinddarkness86
    @Behinddarkness862 ай бұрын

    I am in America. I was given a thorough medical exam, x-rays, and was given a laundry list of potential complications and solutions for simply having a pair of impacted wisdom teeth pulled. The dentist did not simply take my word for it. The fact that a child can walk into a doctor’s office and get life altering drugs just because they say they feel they are the opposite gender baffles me.

  • @JustSway

    @JustSway

    2 ай бұрын

    Crazy. The industry is ran by activists trying to help their cause, not the patient.

  • @togek1ss

    @togek1ss

    Ай бұрын

    fr if that was the case when i was a tomboy as a preteen that cared more about playing video games instead of shopping and dating boys in highschool i wouldve already been on T and everything. Im gonna assume this is the new generation version of getting kids hooked on ritalin. only people benefiting from polluting the population with this gender garbage is big pharma.

  • @birdamatic2691

    @birdamatic2691

    Ай бұрын

    Except it doesn't work that way. In countries that do provide gender affirming care, there are multiple visits to multiple care providers (general practitioner, therapist, child psychologist and social worker before it's determined medical is prescribed. In my country it takes years to get top surgery and double digit appointments to get your first prescription. No below the belt surgeries are performed on children. NOWHERE are children being prescribed drugs and having their genatalia altered because they said one time - "I don't want to be a boy".

  • @Behinddarkness86

    @Behinddarkness86

    Ай бұрын

    @@birdamatic2691 When therapists, child psychologists, and social workers all take the stance to affirm the child, it is all based in the child’s words. Lots of nurses and doctors have come forward and stated to even question the situation would result in lost jobs.

  • @birdamatic2691

    @birdamatic2691

    Ай бұрын

    @@Behinddarkness86 you are right, it's based on the child's words. But those words are not just "I'm sad", "I don't want to be x gender", "I think I'm trans". There are clinical responses that are looked for and consistent, persistent and insistent behaviors that demonstrate the child isn't "just going through a phase". It's a collective of all the responses and all the results from a group of medical practitioners. Anyone that thinks it's a single visit to a Dr and you walk out with puberty blockers, hormones and a surgery date is uninformed on this matter.

  • @larzy5249
    @larzy5249Ай бұрын

    I blame BBC Channel 4 and the Guardian for pushing this insane ideology (raising demand) and smearing those who were critical of it as Toxic. The ratio for this video shows I'm not alone. I hope all three organizations are defunded asap.

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian18 күн бұрын

    as a parent who was lost in the correspondence sent to me telling me and my child that there is no actual support for them and what there is or rather was has now closed down is about right for medieval England, i feel that the delays are to see if your child is going through a phase so as to not address our children becuase that would be easier, I am actually thinking about a career change and to train up so as to help our children in this difficult world, I could write a lot more but my general sensus of it all is I'm p..... off !

  • @jg5032
    @jg50322 ай бұрын

    Sounds like being on the waiting list is far better than being treated... Frankie is dodging a bullet.

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    Frankie is an increased suicide risk due to this

  • @lizziedoherr2244

    @lizziedoherr2244

    2 ай бұрын

    That is not true. It just adds to the fears around this and is profoundly unhelpful. Increasing access to appropriate mental health support is the heart of the issue. Access to someone who can compassionately talk, support and help is what is needed.

  • @darrentaylor1414

    @darrentaylor1414

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@JackFuryproof?

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    @@darrentaylor1414 here we go. If I point you to a study showing trans kids who do t receive healthcare are a greater risk of suicide will you accept it

  • @dreamer72

    @dreamer72

    2 ай бұрын

    Demonic comment. Why do you wish suffering on children?

  • @Weirdsinbad
    @Weirdsinbad2 ай бұрын

    As a kid you'd hear about people that hated their skin colour and would try to bleach themselves. I didn't see much difference between that and gender affirming care. It's crazy that it's encouraged now.

  • @plurabelle5

    @plurabelle5

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely, I would have been called "transracial", had my white racial identity affirmed, and given nose jobs and skin bleach and hair bleach and contact lenses to affirm my race identity at the age of 8, because I wanted to identify with Ariel the mermaid and not the weird racist caricature Jasmine. Rather than being allowed to grow up and realise it was internalised racism all along, that it's society that needs changing and not me.

  • @andrewgleeson3946
    @andrewgleeson3946Ай бұрын

    some have seriously got some thing going wrong with them upstairs..

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    And yet the response has been overwhelmingly: "cope." While the trans community has been _begging_ for more support.

  • @flamezodiac5736
    @flamezodiac5736Ай бұрын

    Badly let down by all the so called Adults around them.

  • @carlgoring2330
    @carlgoring23302 ай бұрын

    Well they have been let down gently... compared to all the people that have actual medical problems and life threatening conditions, who get appointments and treatments cancelled last minute.

  • @bambosvoutourides3720
    @bambosvoutourides3720Ай бұрын

    Dr Bell, a clear and sane voice. Of course, he was ignored.

  • @Ellie-bq8ik
    @Ellie-bq8ikАй бұрын

    7:56. “But you are doing puberty blockers for people over 16 (people already past puberty who couldn’t possibly benefit from them.)”

  • @ian757
    @ian757Ай бұрын

    This child is a very good example of the type of child who needs mental health therapy and time not drugs and surgery. The mother is clearly desperate to help his child and has bought into the idea of trans medicine because she wants to believe there’s a simple and sure cure for this.

  • @azimuth5620
    @azimuth5620Ай бұрын

    I'm gay and just want to remind everyone that there is NO SUCH THING as a gay or trans child. Though statistically rare, there will be some children who MAY grow up to be gay or trans but acting on either should only be done as an adult. I know some people will say "I knew when I was a child" but "knowing" doesn't mean "doing" - kids don't need a "sexual orientation" and they certainly don't need to be medicalized to "affirm" something they feel.

  • @paulkazanvanfan1045

    @paulkazanvanfan1045

    Ай бұрын

    You are clearly barking mad. Children have a developing sexuality through puberty and plenty are gay. Being gay has nothing to do with medicalisation.

  • @Davros1995

    @Davros1995

    22 күн бұрын

    Same here spot on 👍

  • @hkhenry2837
    @hkhenry2837Ай бұрын

    The 2022 USTS , quoting a 2% detransition rate, was not a scientific study by medical institution. It was an anonymous voluntary online survey held within 48 days. It was publicized as “for binary and nonbinary transgender people aged 16 and older residing in the United States”. 1) the design of the study was not to find out the rate of de-transitioning and using statistical method to find the confidence interval. The anonymous participants with no confirmation of identity made the survey results unconvincing in supporting a policy. 2) those who were not active or doubting their choice or loss to follow up may not catch the short time window of survey or even not attempt to answer. So there might be patient selection bias in the design. 3) there was no mention on the duration of follow up after transition. Usually regret rate will increase with increasing duration of follow up 4) There was no subgroup analysis on children undergoing transition. Those undergoing transition in late adulthood due to the long queues should have gone through more thorough consideration and be less likely to regret. The childen’s figures will be likely to be different, which is the most important subjects of interest to the general population now .

  • @colmfergalmccloskey3222
    @colmfergalmccloskey3222Ай бұрын

    Poor Frankie has got mental problems

  • @725k9
    @725k92 ай бұрын

    It is impossible to customize your gender, telling a young child it is possible is cruel.

  • @725k9

    @725k9

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfire Please, point me to your sources. I am interested to see why you believe this.

  • @Democracy_Manifest

    @Democracy_Manifest

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@vixenfirefacts? If you believed in facts you'd know that a man cannot become female 🍆

  • @ALBUMOF2008

    @ALBUMOF2008

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfirehumans are sexually dimorphic. A woman taking testosterone is not becoming a man she is becoming a sick woman with imbalanced hormones.

  • @felixthecatboy

    @felixthecatboy

    Ай бұрын

    @@725k9 its possibly, many have done it and the regret rate is lower than 2%, it makes people happy. now whats your argument against it? why do you want people that suffer to be miserable?

  • @RuthRandoms

    @RuthRandoms

    27 күн бұрын

    Can we change our age and race too, Doc? I'll be 25 again please!

  • @GrahamMayer
    @GrahamMayerАй бұрын

    How did it get like this in the first place? Who promoted or allowed this?

  • @judy7276

    @judy7276

    Ай бұрын

    Dr John Money. Look him up

  • @sookibeulah9331

    @sookibeulah9331

    Ай бұрын

    It because the reason for existence of Stonewall and Mermaids and paid their salaries.

  • @gnoelalexmay

    @gnoelalexmay

    Ай бұрын

    As Judy mentioned, the story around John Money is a disturbingly eye-opening start. It was allowed to get this far due to mainstream media promoting the ideology, and running smears and character assassinations on anyone trying to draw attention to its darker side. It's worth looking a little deeper into anything that corporate media claims to be supported by the far right, or is a "far right conspiracy theory" - that's where the 'bodies are buried'.

  • @Frederique41
    @Frederique41Ай бұрын

    As if private practices are better and the argument of being in line with the NHS ans Cass makes the practice better equiped to deal with children.

  • @markrussell3428
    @markrussell3428Ай бұрын

    The kid can thank them later for delaying and blame the educational system for warping her mind once she grows up

  • @lippydalips4537
    @lippydalips45372 ай бұрын

    How sick telling kids stuff like this, Love the body your in, these people telling kids their in the wrong body are sick!

  • @dinocrank7007

    @dinocrank7007

    2 ай бұрын

    Nobody tells them they know.

  • @claudiaxander

    @claudiaxander

    Ай бұрын

    Explain intersex.

  • @viejolincanada
    @viejolincanada2 ай бұрын

    Why isn't this mother consulting with a regular psychiatrist to treat the emotional turmoil this child has about the body?

  • @merg-vh5sx

    @merg-vh5sx

    2 ай бұрын

    The child is sick because the mother's sick.

  • @merg-vh5sx

    @merg-vh5sx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfire Actually it's an observation a medical specialist might make. How odd.

  • @dinocrank7007

    @dinocrank7007

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@merg-vh5sx🤡🤡🤡

  • @cyberneticcultureresearchu426

    @cyberneticcultureresearchu426

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@merg-vh5sxactually you're slightly uneducated 😂

  • @merg-vh5sx

    @merg-vh5sx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cyberneticcultureresearchu426 the level of the discourse is quite something to behold.

  • @kathymcbride2425
    @kathymcbride2425Ай бұрын

    i had to order my drugs on line cost me 30 pounds a month from canada plus postage it should be free

  • @liamhill9271
    @liamhill9271Ай бұрын

    Children should be allowed to get face tattoos as well, they know exactly what they need for the future 🙄

  • @gailmpintos7232
    @gailmpintos7232Ай бұрын

    No person under the age of 18 should have ANY medical intervention to transition. It is child abuse. When these kids turn 18, then they can choose for themselves.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah! Parents don't have rights. You get to decide what's best for everyone else, regardless of truth or reality.

  • @ijansk

    @ijansk

    Ай бұрын

    Even as adults, injecting hormones and mutilating their healthy bodies is the path to a liftetime of health issues.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@ijansk Whereas failing to take hormones ends in insanity or being unalive. Of course cis women have been taking hormones ("the pill") for a long time. The side effects are very well known. But don't let the facts stop you.

  • @felixthecatboy

    @felixthecatboy

    Ай бұрын

    @@ijansk thats just false, educate urself before spreading bs.

  • @Democracy_Manifest
    @Democracy_Manifest2 ай бұрын

    Great to be finally leaving this gender lunacy behind. How did people go along with it for so long?

  • @plurabelle5

    @plurabelle5

    Ай бұрын

    Autogynephiles are rich powerful heterosexual men. Look up the article "Who Are the Rich, White Men Institutionalizing Transgender Ideology?" by Jennifer Bilek.

  • @markrussell3428
    @markrussell3428Ай бұрын

    It has become toxic issue because people have now seen what garbage has happened in the country. They are children - stop harming them by thinking affirming a delliousion is a treatment

  • @kathymcbride2425
    @kathymcbride2425Ай бұрын

    why let over 99 percent of trans suffer because of less than one percent

  • @prostatecancer36

    @prostatecancer36

    Ай бұрын

    kids can't consent to this

  • @hkhenry2837

    @hkhenry2837

    Ай бұрын

    the design of the study giving 1% detransitioning is at fault. It does not include all patients and those defaulted follow up are not counted.

  • @angelabrooke5059

    @angelabrooke5059

    17 күн бұрын

    Your figures are wrong. Most children change their minds.

  • @stolensilver5811
    @stolensilver58112 ай бұрын

    Gender related distress? heard it all now

  • @user-ql5hu1nl5d
    @user-ql5hu1nl5d2 ай бұрын

    I have alot of sympathy for those with issues who were corralled into the trans/identity ideology with irreversible damage. So messed up.

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    But no sympathy for the 99% who lead better lives after?

  • @user-ql5hu1nl5d

    @user-ql5hu1nl5d

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfireok, so "most people are successful"..and i take it that you mean transition and not "translation". Respectfully, you can't actually make that claim in good faith. Where are you plucking "most people" from, where are getting your figures? And "successful" means what?

  • @user-ql5hu1nl5d

    @user-ql5hu1nl5d

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JackFury incorrect, read my post with your eyes and then use your brain again. I'm talking about misdiagnosis and negligence from trusted healthcare providers.

  • @user-ql5hu1nl5d

    @user-ql5hu1nl5d

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfire why don't you address my questions. I'm not interested in your story.

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-ql5hu1nl5dless than 1% regret their transition. So again do you not care about the more than 99% that live better lives due to trans healthcare. Answer the question this time

  • @gsomethingsomething2658
    @gsomethingsomething2658Ай бұрын

    *T H I S W A S A L W A Y S C O M M O N S E N S E !!!* PS. All the people/"health care professionals"/well-meaning monsters who pushed this on *CHILDREN* be damned!

  • @MsTattygrass
    @MsTattygrassАй бұрын

    C4 they are not “birth registered boys & girls” but just boys and girls. Frankie is a she not a he.

  • @dermotfitzpatrick5045
    @dermotfitzpatrick5045Ай бұрын

    Why did channel 4 close the conversation with Dr Aidan Kelly before Dr David Bell got the opportunity to respond to what he said ?

  • @ravens-crypt

    @ravens-crypt

    Ай бұрын

    I can only speculate that is was because of their own stance which shows how they themselves participate in the unwillingness to have a adult conversation about it by not letting the two doctor’s respond however briefly that would’ve been at times. Which was also something that was brought up by this report

  • @maureenjohnston7414
    @maureenjohnston7414Ай бұрын

    Money drives treatment….

  • @joannesmith7744
    @joannesmith7744Ай бұрын

    Sad he is obsessed with this. Thinks it’s going to ‘ fix everything’. Waste of his childhood. He is lucky he didn’t get in. Needs distraction and something else to focus on.

  • @Ihsaan1c

    @Ihsaan1c

    Ай бұрын

    She should live her life and not see this clinic as the solution to her obvious mental health problems

  • @user-mk3rz6yu2h
    @user-mk3rz6yu2hАй бұрын

    Why is C4 pushing the side of feelings over facts? smh

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    Because your facts are meaningless. You want to diagnose a MENTAL problem by looking at biology. That's like diagnosing your car's engine trouble by looking at your dashboard. When feelings cripple a person, they matter a great deal. Since we cannot rewire a person's brain that leaves altering the body. And the regret rate for such treatment is only 2%. That's extremely low.

  • @felicitasatsacredwellnessg8291
    @felicitasatsacredwellnessg829129 күн бұрын

    Cass report : saving grace! Could not come soon enough to protect children from this madness. Thank you Dr.Cass!!!

  • @opopa456
    @opopa456Ай бұрын

    the nhs is struggling as it is. this just seems like a huge strain on NHS/funds when there is people with actually life threatening illnesses like cancer who are having to wait even longer for treatment/tests. thousands of people do this any it only makes it harder for the nhs to treat emergency responses and people who are legitimately dying. there is priority and people dying are on top and should always be.

  • @nuliferdogan3339
    @nuliferdogan33392 ай бұрын

    My brain fully developed when I reached 28. In my teens I made stupid decisions.

  • @WilliamAhlert

    @WilliamAhlert

    2 ай бұрын

    Ah yes all those teenagers queuing out the door to become political fodder, the target of rising harassment, assault and murder, and making drastic changes to their bodies. Exactly the same as when you had two smirnoff ice's at archibald's 15th. Of course

  • @JackFury

    @JackFury

    2 ай бұрын

    Good for you. Has no relevance to the story

  • @barbarahalkyard1901

    @barbarahalkyard1901

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@malcolmmackenzie-xy7ts😂😂

  • @DorianPaige00

    @DorianPaige00

    2 ай бұрын

    Why don't you then come to the US and advocate that no one under that age is ever subjected to Selective Service? No one ever makes that argument.

  • @user-ow7xy9iv1n
    @user-ow7xy9iv1nАй бұрын

    This is a disgusting take these children are being MUTILATED! This is child abuse.

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    Ah, no. Surgeries weren't performed. 2.20 "... 98% proceeded to masculinising or feminising hormones" That points to a very successful process for diagnosing children.

  • @thomas79marshall

    @thomas79marshall

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@r-platt peeedoh alert

  • @AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi

    @AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi

    Ай бұрын

    @@r-platt even if one kid is castrated its heinous

  • @r-platt

    @r-platt

    Ай бұрын

    @@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi Removing genitals is extreme. That's why it's only done to save the life of the child. We don't get to decide what qualifies as life threatening as that's decided on a case-by-case basis.

  • @felixthecatboy

    @felixthecatboy

    Ай бұрын

    @@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi what about circumcision?

  • @KRterrorKR123
    @KRterrorKR12326 күн бұрын

    That kid needs a father to reassure her that everything will have been ok

  • 2 ай бұрын

    I don’t have the link but there was a ten year old study saing that gener confused kids have mothers with mental issues. Let’s talk about that.

  • @Kevin-gg1bp

    @Kevin-gg1bp

    2 ай бұрын

    100%

  • 2 ай бұрын

    Found it from NIH - Mothers of boys with gender identity disorder: a comparison of matched controls. Quote: “Fifty-three percent of the mothers of boys with GID compared with only 6% of controls met the diagnosis for Borderline Personality Disorder on the Diagnostic Interview for Borderlines or had symptoms of depression on the Beck Depression Inventory.”

  • 2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfire I had a claim and I presented the proof. Your turn.

  • @Kevin-gg1bp

    @Kevin-gg1bp

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vixenfire we need fathers back in children's lives. Not toxic mum's

  • @darrentaylor1414

    @darrentaylor1414

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@vixenfirewhere is your evidence to the contrary?

  • @davebull9600
    @davebull96002 ай бұрын

    Hopefully the NHS is spending its money on more important medical conditions.... stop this service

  • @WilliamAhlert

    @WilliamAhlert

    2 ай бұрын

    gender affirming care saves lives. It is important.

  • @davebull9600

    @davebull9600

    2 ай бұрын

    @@WilliamAhlert your delusional, this is a mental issue, due to changes in our society.... confusion is created and issues evolve, the numbers stated in the report prove it.... concentrate on cancer research, dementia, prevention etc and get these kids parents help

  • @lippydalips4537

    @lippydalips4537

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@WilliamAhlertYour a sick person.

  • @Weirdsinbad

    @Weirdsinbad

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@WilliamAhlertI know a girl who used to think she was a dog could you imagine her life if it was encouraged. You can't change your gender it's only cosmetic. Your body is defined by your DNA anything else is just cosmetic or a belief, like a religion.

  • @alice1374

    @alice1374

    2 ай бұрын

    @@davebull9600 It hasn't been a mental issue since 2018. It was classified as a mental health condition before that. But that was changed. Why are you either living in the past or spreading misinformation?

  • @sf2942
    @sf2942Ай бұрын

    Bunch of weirdos now .

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyismАй бұрын

    When it’s girls it’s often due to normal distress associated with puberty. With boys it tends to be based around true disphoria or issues regarding their sexual identity. This makes it far easier to determine whether the boy requires treatment or not

  • @WUB0105

    @WUB0105

    Ай бұрын

    The boy does not require that kind of treatment, no. Holistic approach and therapy, yes.