You're getting better and better at youtubing. I've watched your videos from day one and never got bored one second but you're are taking things to a whole new level. Congratulations Rich. You've got a solid fan from across the channel. Cheers!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I don't know what I did differently, but thanks all the same!

@andrewstones2921

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree with Billy Bill, your videos are getting better. Always good, but better now.

@Stephenb033

2 жыл бұрын

Agree too. Your improved pace, with the better lighting and picture stabilisation makes for really enjoyable vids. You seems really relaxed in front of camera now too.

Christmas arrives early for the C6.

Watching your C6 videos keeps reminding me not to buy one, keep up the good work 👍

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh, I'm having the wrong effect!

Loving the detail and you go into and knowledge comparing to other cars, more!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

More to come!

@jwsoaresjones1560

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Eagerly anticipated, Sir.

Oh how I wish I had an access to a ramp so I could work on my XM like this. Despite the hardships it seems like you’re so in your element and at the end of the day you’ve got a car that you yourself have fixed up. I just have to stick with my mechanic, who despite being an honest man is obviously not gonna put as much love into it as us owners would. And even though I don’t own a C6, or a BX, and definitely not an SM, your videos have already thought me a bunch about my own LHM machines.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

XMs are very special cars. There are things they can do that the C6 can't. I love em.

About 2 minutes in, I was about to ask if you hadn't considered polybushes... I'm glad I held off posting a comment now!

Another great video Richard thanks. I collected my C6 today and greatly enjoyed driving it 70 miles home. Very interested in your thoughts on ride, regarding having the correct wishbones at the front. I've no idea what's fitted to mine (it's done 143k, so not surprised if they had been changed, I'll go through the invoices) but I'm going to check now, for sure. Mine does get caught at low speed over bigger bumps. At motorway speed it's silent and sublime, but at low speed not quite as composed. I'll be absolutely fascinated to see what you find 👍 Please keep up the great work

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I'm still collecting my thoughts on the suspension on the C6, at the moment. It's definitely set up more for faster driving, and is sublime on the motorway as you say. Just gets caught out around town, but eventually I'll do a POV/road test on it and get my thoughts together for that.

nobody should actually care about the total. the knowledge for this is close to unobtainable (at least around where I live). hats off to you sir

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I'm anticipating that the total will get close to what you could buy a 'better' one for, but my logic is that the 'better' one might then need a fair chunk spending on it anyway.

@oxulucozcan4923

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN it's about keeping it on the road yes? There'll be no end to what you need to do to the car. Not because it's "this" car; that's the case with any second hand car.

15:15 Ripley holding up a part of the Alien after a fight.🚀

The only way I'd be brave enough to own a C6, is to have a workshop, a ramp and a very well stocked tool box. I don't.........so I don't. ☹️ Great vid, as always 👍

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have a well stocked tool box, in fairness! I've got cheap stuff, and have to make do more often than not.

@Tagora2664

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I guess my to tool box isn't so bad for a home spanner man, but the only thing I can boast about is my Snap-on socket, yep, just the one 😉

@flipperth1

2 жыл бұрын

A very healthy bank account would probably be essential too!

Love to watch people with great knowledge like you. Thanks for great content!

I always find your videos so interesting,I'm learning so much about citroens thanks to you,I nearly brought a BX gti 16v years ago ,but was put off by a " green puddle " under it after the test drive.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes the green puddle is a pain to put right, but sometimes it's a 5 second job. It's not usually anything serious.

Informative well explained all with a sprinkle of dry humour. Very watchable.

Really enjoy your videos. As a car enthusiast, but with no mechanical knowledge whatsoever, your explanations are really good, a lot of other ppl don't do that and I find all the stuff you covered fascinating. Very complex car and I love french cars and have done for many years. Good humour too. Keep it up.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Love your videos, very funny, like David Brent younger brother is a mechanic, very talented mechanic and presenter 👍

Love the technical stuff, info with this job - great to watch it, thanks

Great video, thanks very much Richard. Interesting process, really well-explained.

Excellent content so well explained. Your presentation is never boring, a touch or three of humour helps no end! (I trust that Cecily enjoyed the experience 🤣)

Brilliant as usual Love the car and not bad for 150,000 plus miles. If you had been on Apollo 13 they would not have to abort the mission. Waiting with anticipation for the C6 to glide around Hampshire soon.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it's pretty good for the mileage.

Lovely Jubbly on the video, I think French cars are the best with their individuality, my first a 93 plate AX sadly now a 67 plate 308sw which I only need room for my chair in the boot. Ideally a Xantia estate would be great but finding one in great condition, enough said.

Lovely stuff yet again Rich. I hope this channel continues to grow!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Elk!

Wow, learned a lot in this episode. Didn't know anti-dive and hydropneumatisch suspension were that tightly related. Simple hydropneumatics being more clever than the electronic ones let me in awe of the engineers in the 50ies 🙂

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that they're tight-related, it's more that in having hydropneumatics suspension, you can factor in anti-dive geo much more easily.

Love the C6 content!

Really informative and engaging video, even though I don't have a citroen at this time. Your knowledge and enthusiasm for citroens is awesome 👌 Great video looking forward to your next 😀

A great and informative Video as always Rich.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Good to see you making progress with your C6. Agree with your comments about the ride my 2,2HDI base is a 2009 with 93k on the clock rides very well but is confused by speed bumps. Had a problem with the load regulator at the rear of the car recently the main dealer in Cardiff overhauled it rather than replacement and it now works fine probably saved me some money as well also had the instrument cluster repaired which is a common problem. look forward to seeing your car back in action.

great insight, excellent video. 👍

The ABS sensor is “reluctant”…. Groan…. Those C6 front ends are quite a thing… they certainly work hard.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I was worried nobody would notice!

And the take away from today is...Compared to the SM .. _THIS_ is a piece of cake.

I had C5 X7 and changed those lower wishbone bushes couple of times. No special tools so ended up drilling holes in them to get them out. Real bush mechanic. And, just to mention... my BX died at the traffic lights today. Happy pushing. I think I had just flooded the engine as it was fine when I got it going again (after removing the air filter)

Haha - I'm now going to go out and check my X7 wishbones and make sure they're not 407 ones lol. A home mechanic replaced one of those 'frip' joints before my ownership. Went over a pothole too hard and one of the bolts popped out. Almost shat my pants - one wheel was effectively decoupled from the steering. I'm guessing he didn't have a four post lift and couldn't be arsed to tighten the bolts up properly. All's well now and I'm glad it didn't happen on the motorway!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Ouch! Bullet dodged! I meant to include a picture of the C6 arm and the 407 arm side by side, but forgot. Will do it as a post or something.

@jwsoaresjones1560

2 жыл бұрын

They're both French, what's the difference?

Good to see your progress Richard. I think the suspension software update is the least of your worries, with the wrong arms fitted, knackered FRIP joints & bushes. Get the hardware renewed, ride heights correct & spheres regassed, then you'll see a massive improvement. Nice shot of my Activa V6 & C6 (& a friend's Fiat X1/9) in the background of your AX picture.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Next couple of vids cover this :-)

It sounds like your C6 patented Porpoising!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I need to get Adrian Newey over to sort it out!

Awesome video - really like the Citroen hydra set-up - looks a total pig to work on though. I polybushed by Rover P6 front and back - now there's a suspension system you go into with both eyes open and a workshop manual as thick as a housebrick. Well, well, well worth it, did the rear with 'Progressive' springs too - ten years in and still a magic carpet ride.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

The suspension isn't too tricky to work on, but you do have to know how it works first. Polybushing is a wonder, IMO. I've done a lot of my cars over the years. Not for engine mounts, though - unless you're building a track car, it can ruin it on the road!

I changed the cv joints on my peugeot 206. IT would really have been much nicer to just change the whole shafts. Especially as I dont have a workbench / vise.

"When I was doing Cecily" LOL!

Well done interesting video 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👍👍👍

The suspension software update removes some of the levels softness/firmness settings. Something like 16 levels and it removed the softest 4 settings. Nothing special, it's like turning on the Sports mode, but not as stiff. Personally I wouldn't bother, I love my C6 waft.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh, interesting, cheers. I think the spheres may need regassing first, so I'll get that done and then see how it affects things.

Damn, I was doing so well bingeing the SM uploads, then this came along! Good feedback on the SAAB bushes, although not horrible my YS3E 9-5 will need doing, so I may just stick with OEM bushes. Thank you.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I can't speak for the 9-5 obvs (never even been in one) but I just remember that all the things the 9-3SS did badly (over-light and imprecise steering; poor/rock solid ride; slow to change direction) were just either unimproved, or even worse afterwards. The steering in particular was horrendous, the grip in the wet was shocking. It was almost like...I dunno, a Vauxhall Vectra! I did really like it, though, despite the flaws. If it drove properly I'd probably still have it, and wouldn't have bought the C6!

@niallsommerville9941

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Thanks for the detail. Having driven several flavours, I find they are a bit of a lottery, a poor one feels like a chore to drive but a nice one is a pleasant place to be, even for hours at a time but not in the same way as an LHM Citroen. Karma got you a C6, no complaints :-)

Wow. Lucky you are a mechanic. How would an owner get on with this!!

@UPnDOWN

6 ай бұрын

They pay people to do it for them!

You're quite right about the Bush carriers. 407 and Ben Hurr c5 x7s have the same arms, the proper x7s have the same carrier as the c6. My x7 os arm is from a 407, ns is correct, although I measured the difference at 9.5mm.. Also, you don't actually need a special tool to get the lower Bush out of the upright, you can just remove the bolt that gets on the way of a regular removal tool..

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm sure you can, but I bought the tool anyway as I don't know how many I'll be doing in the future. It worked perfectly, didn't even need to read the instructions.

@docchevron1472

2 жыл бұрын

Real men never read instructions!

Parts cannon loaded!

I Love your channel!!! Just realised you are a dead ringer for Matt Berry!!! 😜 PS what’s happened to the SM??

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

MMmmm...really? I wish I had his voice! SM still here...just other stuff is higher priority, sadly.

I'm Back once again for the renegade master🤣🤣😂

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

D4 damager with the ill behaviour, sir.

What really annoys me about suspension repairs and especially bushes is that the parts are relatively cheap but the labour to put them in is a f**king fortune. Of course you don't have that problem so I envy you. I've spent hundreds on my C5's suspension and it still sodding well rattles

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Time is money, sadly!

@MrManBuzz

2 жыл бұрын

Trust me, most mechanics don't enjoy doing those jobs either. For the stress and annoyance doing some of these jobs, it's sometimes best to just let someone else do it.

I think you may have another problem with the wishbone bush bracket. With the 407 bracket the axis of the wishbone is horizontal and the axis of the bush is horizontal, perpendicular to the bush bracket. All good. But when you raise the tail end of the wishbone, the wishbone shaft going through the bush is no longer horizontal, and not perpendicular to the bracket. A rubber bush can tolerate that misalignment. A poly bush, not so much... Maybe the C6 brackets have an angle on them for correct alignment of the bush?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's such a small difference that it's negligable. What I don't get is why they didn't just design the subframe to tilt the arms forwards, cos they could have used regular 407 arms then.

I think I might buy a C6 as you have made it the absolute beauty and I love complex cars - Unless please you plan to buy a Xantia Activa and start a series on one of these please..😀🙂

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda already own an Activa....

@TheJensenInterceptor

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN Please please share videos on the Active ; otherwise I will ask to buy it from you

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

It's a bit smashed up! Long story, really.

Nice video 👍 My c6 has correct wishbones, but still it goes up and down and, at night, drivers in front of me are not happy. XM never behaves like that.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm...that's not good! It can't be right, there must be a fault somewhere. I'm determined to find it!

@556johny556

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t had my XM for too long but so far I have definitely not noticed any sort of excessive up and down action. I can however confirm that at lower speeds she’s not as happy filtering the road as on the highway. Perhaps I need to do some bushes myself. (She’s high mileage after all)

We love the C6 videos but may we have an SM video once a month even if it is just gossiping about how amazing the SM is.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! I'd love to get near it once a month, at the moment. Even that is proving difficult!

Great video. Strikes me...these are a great product...with a stealership network not best suited to maintaining then

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

The dealers had no knowledge, nor any interest in learning.

@kevinelkins9955

2 жыл бұрын

I Agree with Richard.When I the cambelt done on her what should have been a 6 hour job took the 2 1/2 days and they knackered the thermostat housing and then denied doing it

@jeremyaustin9103

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN sad isn't it. The last big Citroen I drove was a cx25 GTi turbo. Really quick back then...it's sad they don't make any thing different anymore

Hi Richard Thanks for the cool video. I am currently doing the same work on my C6 as you are doing. The purple bushes for the rear bush on the control arm is something I really like! How possible is it to get some of those bushes for myself?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy them from Powerflex.

Really enjoying this series, and I don't like modern stuff...

Excellent video and there getting better , just a bit more light on the job would be good.well done

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

This is about as much as I can muster I'm afraid, it's dark in here! Might just have to turn your brightness up a bit haha!

what a mare of a design, think i will stick with my front wheel drive volvos (850\p2 v70's).

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

In some ways they're quite simple, but if you want the driving experience, you have to have something complex enough to provide it.

If ya need the special upper ball joint tool, let me know, I can lend it out to you! When I did my wheel bearing, I replaced the knuckle with a brand new one (£50 each from Germany!)

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

That's kind, thanks. I should probably just buy one, I'm bound to need it, and it no doubt fits other PSA cars.

@khalidacosta7133

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN As far as I am aware... it's just the upper ball joint on this suspension system. Cost £20 from Laser Tools.

For the first half of the video I couldn’t work out what the two lights under the c6 were attached to, then I realised that it was the SM behind it. I’d forgotten (like most people) that you had an SM! 😂. When it comes to parts manufacturers, post Brexit, it seems you have to take what is available. I’d heard Meyle HD were good?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Meyle are pretty good. I used to be a partsman years ago, so have 'been there and done that' from that side of the automotive world. That's why I'm quite particular about the brands I use.

I know it's a C6 video, but you've had a C4 VTS so I'd like to ask you two questions. First, did you give Powerflex bushes a go on it and if you did, how was it? And second, I've bearing noise coming from aux belt upper pulley which can't be sourced anywhere. Should I risk it for the biscuit and press the bearing out and risk losing the unsourceable pulley, or should I try with the DW engine belt since DW's don't have that pulley up there? Thanks :)

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I fitted Powerflex bushes to the rear axle, as it was crashing over bumps a bit. They transformed it; made it silent and tight. As for the pulley, I'd at least remove it and see if the bearing can be changed easily or not. The DW doesn't rev as high, so you may find that pulley is needed for the 5k+ rpm that the petrols can do (I think my VTS used to hit 7400rpm....not that I went barrelling into the limiter much, honest!)* * OK, I did.

@chutac009

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN thanks for your answer! My bushes are still good, but I'll source some Powerflexes for when they'll be needed. I've managed to find a new SNR pulley in one store, they've had it sitting on a shelf for a bit under 10 years lol. But I'll try to replace the bearing on the current one to have it in backup. My VTS revs to around 7800, I think it's got to do with the 100 octane fuel I'm using. The ECU can apparently recognize it using knock sensors so it can adapt.

Would you consider a scissor lift rather that a 4 poster in your future garage?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, possibly. I can see the appeal.

That part must have been fitted before I bought the car at 66,000 miles

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Quite possibly! Can't find any trace in the history of it.

@kevinelkins9955

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I think I had one of the CV joints done but my mechanic had the devils own job getting one because the ones from Citroen off their database was wrong and he had to measure them, eventually got them it form a dealer in aberdeen. But then you know she is a bit odd with what looks like the c5 V6 Box rather that the C6 box and I bought her as a 09 plate and you say she was manufactured in 2007

@jwsoaresjones1560

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinelkins9955 Because French, eh?

what you have a C6?! oh hang on wrong car!

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have mentioned this before, and remember doing so.

I always have to laugh when I watch tutorials of people doing suspension work, almost always their underside is relatively clean and fresh looking, they zip off bolts and nuts like it's child's play, and then when I got to do it, it's a struggle to get each and every one of them off.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Mine definitely wasn't pre-prepared!

@MrManBuzz

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN I know. Seeing you pull that CV axle with nothing but hatred for everything in sight on your face was so relatable 😂 I had to get the angle grinder to cut the ball joints off my Mini last time I did suspension work. They had literally bonded themselves to the knuckle. Suspension is some of my least favourite parts of a car to work on.

Purple bushes...don't forget to paint your calipers red.

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

bling bling

Auto wrecker in France for the wishbone?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I'd probably just buy the new bush, they were about £35 each and come in the housing, but the next video shows the solution so far.

Top gear test on the c6 when there used it as a camera car for horse racing and how pictures was good and with what u on about urs is definitely wrong

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

There's always the chance that what you see on TV isn't neccessarily true ;-)

Bad hair day ?

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

Every day is a bad hair day.

How dare you criticise a Saab!!!!!!😀

@UPnDOWN

2 жыл бұрын

I actually liked that car. The seats were excellent, as was the driving position. I also thought it was a really handsome old thing, and it went well, too (Hirsch remap). It was just the ride, steering, handling and stereo that really let it down.

@jonathanjenkins9583

2 жыл бұрын

@@UPnDOWN "just" !!!!!!!!