Any anti drone capabilities, clearly one of the biggest threats to tanks currently

@markhepworth

Ай бұрын

Doubt they would be telling us..

@myrants5836

Ай бұрын

Totally agree. If anything the war in Ukraine has taught us is that tanks are incredibly vulnerable to drones. Especially if the hatch is left open. It's almost made tank warfare obsolete!

@king_goose

Ай бұрын

Doesn't look like the prototype shown has one yet, but there was a mention in the video of fitting an active protection system, presumably iron fist or trophy. These are hard kill APS. They are basically small missile launchers on the top of the tank that can engage drones and anti tank missiles and slower moving chemical rounds like HEAT-FS and HESH. The tank could also employ soft kill APS which works to disable the line of sight of a missile/drone by using electronic jammers or smokescreens. The black knight tank concept used the hard kill Iron fist APS so we can assume that challenger 3 will probably use it too.

@StillAliveAndKicking_

Ай бұрын

Yes, keep the hatches closed …

@superspies32

29 күн бұрын

And does the track can prevent the tank drowned in mud? Or does it has any upgrades to prevent it collapsed any civilain bridges it crosses?

Nice, but the UK should have 500 MBT. The same applies to Germany and France.

@zamstig66

Ай бұрын

as an island i think we should focus more on the naval and air aspect as theres less of a land based risk

@staryjaszczur

Ай бұрын

@@zamstig66 you are are not alone in NATO. You have continental duties too.

@thomasw695

Ай бұрын

​@zamstig66 we should atleast have 300 how can we do full military conflicts will low equipment

@Carsten-yu6fe

Ай бұрын

​@@zamstig66 Well put, but a capable expeditionsry force is still needed 227-283 is what should be aimed for

@Joe-rp8xn

Ай бұрын

No point having loads of tanks if you don't have enough infantry or IFV's to support them.

We only have two regular battalion sized tank units. That can not cut it any longer!

@1234crevis

Ай бұрын

That's why America and NATO got your backs!

@Sam-tc8ic

Ай бұрын

@@1234crevis I think I was wrong. We have 3 of 44 tanks in each

@1234crevis

Ай бұрын

@@Sam-tc8ic that don't matter cuz America has 5,500 tanks plus Natos tanks and we all are allies/friends here and we got each other!

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

We're an island nation. Where we gonna get invaded from, the channel tunnel perhaps?

@thomasw695

Ай бұрын

​@1234crevis not good enough we can't spend everything on the navy

I think the Challenger 3 is now really no more than a stop-gap. It's become clear in the last couple of years that future MBT's need to be designed differently.

@bobvance8017

29 күн бұрын

Yeah any serious MBT will need some sort of defence from drones

@616CC

28 күн бұрын

An automated small caliber point defence cannon would work well I think, for aerial top down munitions and drones maybe 300 rounds

@donutperson9027

28 күн бұрын

@@bobvance8017 The Active protection system also works on drones.

@thanhnamnguyen5280

27 күн бұрын

@@donutperson9027 But most systems are still mostly around the tank, and ammo is still extremely limited. I'm banking on a miniaturized ciws system, down to .50 BMG or .338 NM, or even smaller if they can make composite casing and ammo works.

@Mrtweet81

26 күн бұрын

Whats mountain bikes got to do with this?

Except 150 vehicles is nothing like enough. No allowance for combat losses. Try again order 600

@Katsumoto0456

Ай бұрын

Impossible, they're converting old challenger 2 hulls to challenger 3 and we only have 213 challenger 2s. If we start making new hulls we might aswell go with a clean sheet design not a challenger 2 with a German gun.

@jjsmallpiece9234

Ай бұрын

@@Katsumoto0456 Go for NATO compatibility and buy Leopards. The CH3 already has the leopard gun. We have finally dropped the insistence on rifled guns

@7stormy334

Ай бұрын

@@jjsmallpiece9234 If we bought German Leopards we could only use them in conflicts where Germany gives us permission as part of the contract. It's one of the main reasons most major countries want their own MBTs

@jwadaow

Ай бұрын

@@7stormy334 They would be built in the customer's nation using technology transfer. Other nations are replacing their tanks with new designs.

@paper2061

29 күн бұрын

With what money?

Ridiculous numbers...500 needed. Why have the politicians got heads up bums?

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

We're an island nation. Where we gonna be invaded from, the channel tunnel?

@Brookspirit

Ай бұрын

@@LeeTillbury 🤦‍♂

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

​@@BrookspiritGood comeback dude 😂

@AB-gi3qy

Ай бұрын

We're a maritime power mate, not a land one, the navy and air force are higher priority.

@Aendavenau

29 күн бұрын

@@AB-gi3qy you dont have much left of that either, and as a great power you are supposed to be able to bring something to the table in a land war, even if its just symbolically. Dont think you are even doing that anymore.

Great tank but only 150 is quite pathetic during these troubled times.

@jtr549

25 күн бұрын

It's a stop gap, true next gen tanks don't have people in them.

@karadan100

24 күн бұрын

There's no money. Our politicians gave it all away. :(

@tonyjedioftheforest1364

24 күн бұрын

@@karadan100 that is a spot on comment, we give at least £8 billion a year away in foreign aid that we should be spending on our own defence.

@louk597

20 күн бұрын

​@tonyjedioftheforest1364 But But But Turkey needs 680 millions of out tax payer money to build a new clean rail line in Turkey!!! Godamit!!

@ln5747

18 күн бұрын

What troubled times? UK has probably never had fewer threats with NI and daft War on Terror over.

Sorry, 150 is not a credible offer. As an ex-RAC/BAOR/Cold War soldier, with the UKR war we need an all arms division capable of war fighting at scale. 150 doesn't cut it.

@jwadaow

Ай бұрын

True.

@bakersmileyface

29 күн бұрын

We also need to account for losses as well. Not every battle will be a victory.

@just_one_opinion

27 күн бұрын

How you gonna get them to theater? Props fall off ships, where they suppoed to have missles you have treadmills... your towns are no go sharia zones or burned out filth....and you worry about getting more money to your LORDS and their corporations....

@WiseOne93

26 күн бұрын

Then you pay for Ukraine part then.

@jtr549

25 күн бұрын

I think there's a realisation that current tanks are reaching the end of their usefulness, they still have a use case but air superiority and artillery is far more important, a tank vs an anti tank missile isn't very affective. The only other reason would be that the focus has shifted to the next gen tank which won't have a human crew inside it, which means it can have even more armour as they don't need empty space for a crew. By producing less of these old style tanks they can create more next gen tanks, which is where the UK has always been, we invented it in the first place.

Only 150 tanks ???

@1234crevis

Ай бұрын

That's y nato and us in America are here to help!

@whylie74

Ай бұрын

yep and only until 2040 when it's supposed to be replaced, with less as usual.

@user-yk1hc7dl8e

Ай бұрын

in addition to al;ready existing fleet which should bring the total upto 500

@matthewwelch3007

Ай бұрын

@@user-yk1hc7dl8ethe existing fleet consists of CH2 chassis of which there are 227, 148 will be converted to CH3 while the rest are retired. We will have a decrease of 79 tanks.

@lightningleaf23

29 күн бұрын

@@user-yk1hc7dl8enope not at all there is no such thing as the existing tanks. This new tank isn’t new it’s an upgrade of the existing tanks and they use the old hulls and convert them. 150 tanks pathetic

less than 150 tanks is silly. Have you heard theres a big f off war in europe?

@WiseOne93

26 күн бұрын

Big f off war? You make it sound like Julius Ceasar has concoquerd all of NATO.

148 tanks is not taking our role in NATO seriously.

@charliechuck1341

20 күн бұрын

as much a joke 150 is. our role in nato is primarily our navy.

@ADB-zf5zr

19 күн бұрын

@@charliechuck1341 Which is nowhere near as strong as it needs to be.!

Penny pinch all the way 150 tanks won't last long ,is this government not taking notes of the war in Ukraine

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

It is taking notes. Ukraine was invaded by it's neighbouring country on land by tanks etc. Great Britain is an island nation. Where are we going to be invaded from, the channel tunnel?

@karadan100

24 күн бұрын

This government has no money. The conservatives have ruined this country.

@louk597

20 күн бұрын

Nah to busy Sending Notes to Ukraine!!.

Yes Quality should be top notch but let's not forget quantity too. Remember, Quantity is a Quality of its own.

@JK3___201

25 күн бұрын

you sound like a communist, or maybe Russians were right all along

The BV (Boiling Vessel) is the most important piece of equipment of every Challenger. So I'm told... 😂

How long until someone releases classified files on the WarThunder Forums? 😂

@GR-zo6sm

13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@kennethworkman4740

3 күн бұрын

There are a lot of stupid people out there.

Where is Lazerpig when you need him

@toma3025

27 күн бұрын

I'm surprised the MoD hasn't stooped to getting him to do their PR already.

150 tanks should last you a month! in battle!

150 tanks !!!! Uk pushing the boat out

- Beautiful like nothing else .. !!! ... however ... 150 tanks will NOT finish the "near - peer" job 'on top' .. !!!

Say what you like about the British army, but we certainly have the best hats.

@Oxley016

29 күн бұрын

Not enough men, not enough gear but at least we've got some canny hats....

@peterwait641

28 күн бұрын

Now like uniforms made in China lol

@WiseOne93

26 күн бұрын

​@@Oxley016hats look bent

@Oxley016

25 күн бұрын

@@WiseOne93 you look bent

How did we go from one of the most powerful armies during ww1 and ww2 to this

@whylie74

Ай бұрын

labour torie labour torie labour torie, that's how.

@jjsmallpiece9234

Ай бұрын

Tories wanted to fund tax cuts, Labour to fund social programmes

@ashleygoggs5679

Ай бұрын

Becuase we had the longest ever peacetime in european history. there was signficantly less wars from post world war 2 then the same time pre ww 1. Such an age in peace causes people to not want to join the army which means armies all around the world have reduced numbers of soldiers. As an island nation we are under less threat then those of poland or germany who can be attacked via multiple scarios such as land, sea and air, uk however can only be attakc by sea and air. meaning we have had to worry less about russian aggression then mainland europe. Politicians however really havnt helped in the slightest.

@Katsumoto0456

Ай бұрын

@@ashleygoggs5679 That old saying, "if you want peace, prepare for war"

@peterchapman4729

Ай бұрын

Historically and geographically our place is as a maritime power not a continental one. Continental land wars are bloody affairs as WWI showed, by WWII we'd learnt that lesson and whilst we played our part on land the balance was more naval and air.

i can't that guy seriously while his wearing that hat

@thewomble1509

8 күн бұрын

Get your head out of your back end and look into the history of that hat.................................

Doesn’t matter how good it is, those numbers are a joke.

it looks great and should serve as a potent and modern adversary for any enemy who may fight us. The addition of the new sights and active protection system make it second to none, however i have a few questions. First off, we all know that we could do with more of them, that probably wont happen but it would be nice to have 300-400 ideally. However, if we did need to build more, do we still have the infrastructure and capability to build challenger 2 chassis as we can obviously build the turrets but to make new tanks we would need chassis too, can we still build them as i heard that the place where the challenger 2s were built has been shut down?

@veblen674

29 күн бұрын

Vickers MBT building facilities in Leeds and Newcastle are both long gone.

Just the one is it?😂 Must be all that superior technology that means we only need a 148. Doesn't Ukraine get through that many in a month? Honestly its embarrassing. They have done the same to the navy as well. The American coastguard has more manpower. As for being next gen, its a recycled Challenger 2.

@Fjprints

Ай бұрын

shut up Russian bot.

@IanDavidH

Ай бұрын

US power is pointless in a real war. If the US goes to war with any of the big countries it will be nuclear, so all that money and gear will be useless. The US is only powerfull against weak countries.

@apexbuilder0171

Ай бұрын

Most countries mbts are mods of previous ones take the Russians for example with the t90 being a slightly better t72 or the abrams or different leopard 2

You couldn't upgrade the lights? You know better lights exist.

@peterwait641

28 күн бұрын

Side light/ indicator lights fill up with water when jet washed lol

It has a brew kit right? That’s all that really matters tbh, can you get a brew when locked down?

Now order 10x the amount to have a realistic tank fleet for war.

So they have 150 tanks on order. Currently the US has 5000 M1 Abrams main battle tanks. France has 406 AMX Leclerc main battle tanks. Finland has 100 Leopard 2A6 and 100 Leopard 2A4, (yes, Finland has a total of 200 main battle tanks despite the country having a population of 5 million compared the UK population of 70 million). Sweden has 12 Strv 121 and 110 Stridsvagn 122, (That's a total of 122 main battle tanks despite the country having a population of about 10 million.) Poland has order a total of 1600 main battle tanks with K2 Black Panther as well as M1 Abrams and some Leopard 2. Whilst their old tanks PT-91 Twardy and the T-72 are either still in service or being donated to Ukraine. So back the UK 150 main battle tanks is absolutely pathetic, such a small amount of tanks really makes the UK military a second rate fighting force.

@friedchicken4326

27 күн бұрын

(yes, Finland has a total of 200 main battle tanks despite the country having a population of 5 million compared the UK population of 70 million) UK doesn't share a huge land border with a potential aggresor. Perhaps you have forgotten that we are an island nation? Does Finland have such a navy as us? Did you study geography at school?

@matthewbaynham6286

27 күн бұрын

@@friedchicken4326 the Royal Navy isn't that big any more, there has been a bit too many cost cutting measures. Britain bearly has enough ships to escort one of it's aircraft carriers, and Britain can't sail both of it's carriers without other nations stepping in with additional ships to escort. Which is fine at peace time but in the event of war, other countries might be a bit too busy to escort Britains aircraft carriers.

@friedchicken4326

26 күн бұрын

@@matthewbaynham6286 in the event of a war, allied nations come to our aid. Have you heard of NATO?

good tanks, but 150 units??? what happened to adapting to a changing world? absolutely ridiculous

keep up the great work british army respect xx

Are you guys going to post the videos from NTC in fort Irwin CA from January???

When I grew up I wanted to go in a challenger 2 😔😔😔

@Aendavenau

29 күн бұрын

You still can, Challenger 3 is an Challenger 2 with a few German upgrades.

Excellent news, but ideally the Army could do with circa 448 Challenger 3’s in order to equip 1 full strength Heavy Armoured Division Comprised of 3 Heavy Armoured Brigades each with 2 Tank Regiments of 56 Challenger 3 MBTs each plus 2 remaining Regiments for Reserves and Training. 148 is simply woeful considering the Heavy Armour Losses being inflicted on both sides in Ukraine. With current funding commitments, I sure hope not, our Armoured Forces get deployed into active combat any time soon or in the distant future!

At 0:41 it looks like a small stress fracture on the road wheel in the left of shot. Its in the 2 o'clock position.

Beautiful!

I'm confused as to why they wear camo but have high vis jackets on; do they want to be visible, or not?

@andyonn9283

27 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@nickd2664

27 күн бұрын

Some higher up has a serious issue with safety... the running joke the PT belt the US Army has taken to the level of stupid insanity. Don't get caught without it.

@alastairwallace6153

26 күн бұрын

shows what you know about the army. not much.

@everTriumph

19 күн бұрын

They may be Army, but they are within a factory complex of a civilian firm. All civilian H+S standards apply, no exemptions.

onlyy 150??? the UK isnt even a naval powerhouse anymore, and MoD has totally given up with the army. pathetic

I'm happy to see these roll off the production line (As an America). Beautiful tank I do hope more armor in back like a plate over the engine is being looked at. Auto loading now? I think

@soundfx68

18 күн бұрын

"Unlike Russian-designed tanks, which employ an autoloader, the Challenger 3 will feature a crew of four including the commander, gunner, loader, and driver." No to Turret Tossing, huge design flaw of Russian MBT.

Nice little projectile trap with that depressed bit on the front lol

@headmonk3930

26 күн бұрын

I thought the same trap point trouble is most here are oblivious to a drone being the kamikaze projectile that's the major threat

They dont have 500 Challenger 2 tanks to slap a few german upgrades to and rename them Challenger 3 and the 200 they have are old and tired. This is an 50 year old tank after all. The least worn downs are getting the German upgrades (what few there are) and the rest are used for spare parts.

We really need more MBT’s! Challenger 3 is looking good but 150 isn’t going to cut it at all.

Did I see one on Red Square for the big May parade?

Looks like a seriously lethal and awesome tank but why only 150? At minimum, the UK must have 1,000 of these things especially the way things are in the world at the moment.

@user-yv8ii8og2e

28 күн бұрын

Cause were an island and a small one at that plus the UK has always had a powerful navy no point having 1000 tanks if nobody can invade you cause of how powerful your navy is

@dev9421

27 күн бұрын

Uk navy is a joke now

@AlecBlanc-mm4sv

26 күн бұрын

​@@user-yv8ii8og2e😮

@hogman3543

26 күн бұрын

​@@user-yv8ii8og2e you are naive you think those tiny ships will help 😂

How many are you going to actually get, 20? 24?

@s0lthe3rd86

25 күн бұрын

At least more than than what the Russians were able to make with their T14s anyway.

@hoplophobia7014

25 күн бұрын

@@s0lthe3rd86 lmao

Re drone comments: I think it will have the best electronic suite available. Jammers, detection and ability to shoot some down. Plus a cage system ready to be fitted as an option. If not ...

I agree that not enough tanks have been ordered. But I will say that the tank looks sleek. Look at modern uprages of the Abrams compared to base models, the tank has become massive!

We have enough challly 2 in service and mothballed to do 285 challenger 3. That’s enough for 4 armoured regiments or 12 armoured battle groups and a couple of training squadrons. This is a must if the British Army is considered a serious player.

@7stormy334

Ай бұрын

What about combat losses? no use to have 4 regiments and all of them at half strength part way through a war. Realistically the only way to get a larger number of regiments would be to build more Challenger 2 chassis.

@Carsten-yu6fe

Ай бұрын

That 150 never accounted for attrition rates lol

@Aendavenau

29 күн бұрын

They are old and worn down, doubt you find 285 chally 2 in good enough condition, and then what? There are no spare parts and the factories who made them are long gone.

@peterwait641

28 күн бұрын

less numbers some were scrapped a few years ago!

@willfletch5871

27 күн бұрын

@@peterwait641 You are correct. 386 entered service. 226 were kept for the 3 regular armoured regiments and 3 sabre squadrons were kept for the Royal Wessex Yeomary and training. 75 were and still are mothballed and the rest scrapped and cannibalised for spare parts.

It's a great tank, and I hope Japan chooses it to replace their aging Type 10 tanks.

sold where do i sign?

They didn't check that the BV made the transition??

Why do you keep lying to people? It's just an Improved Chalenger 2, same chassis, same engine, same turret... the only thing you change is the cannon, from the Rifled cannon to the smooth cannon to use the same one as the Leopard. With this cannon you barely keep up with the new Leoparts, because you also use the short caliber. You ruled out the 130mm cannon, even the 125mm, to avoid spending money, you ruled out the new Rheinmetall turret. And you haven't even considered improving the engine plant... it's a crappy car. In reality, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MANUFACTURE a single tank, you are only going to recondition the ones you already have. I don't understand why you think everyone is stupid. And on top of that you have left Europe and Rheinmetall is going to charge you more... you are shabby

nothing a £39.99 Drone (made in China) couldn't stop in its track's

@grekiki

22 күн бұрын

40$ drone won't do much.

Interesting head-dress there on Lt. Almond. Is that standard RAC uniform? Not seen it before.

Get some leopard2-A8 models they have about 200 on order atm iirc so by buying 200 more would bring down the unit price. The Uk would then have about 150 C1/2/3 or whatever you want to call it for Uk Defence and 150 modern Leopards/ could be forward located/stored in Germany the other 50 for Uk training needs etc.

you should be adopting the Leopard 2 and sending all of your Challengers to Ukraine. NATO needs to standardize.

How about build 1k or more

@Katsumoto0456

Ай бұрын

213 max, they're converting old chal2 hulls to chal3

@Carsten-yu6fe

Ай бұрын

We're only getting 150

Awesome machine.

Cool

It's a modified Challenger 2 lets face it.. can't call it a new tank because it's not.. god we are so cheap in the UK.

@ralpha112233

Ай бұрын

It's not just a "modified Challenger 2" it's a completely new tank. The turret, engine, drive-train, armour, electronics, and survival system are new. It only looks like the old Challenger 2. If you want to see a similar upgrade look at the upgrade life of an Abrams. Still looks almost the same when first introduced in the 80's.

@jwadaow

Ай бұрын

@@ralpha112233 It uses the hull from Challenger 2.

@ralpha112233

Ай бұрын

@@jwadaow So. All of the hulls of M1's are refurbished. It is possible to use old parts to build something new.

@MrJonny6688

29 күн бұрын

@@ralpha112233 no that's not how a new anything is created there is no new design process taking place it's just taking the old chassis and bolting on some new bits and calling it new when it's clearly not new!. It's a combat and survivability upgrade package. The fact the entire project is called Challenger 2 LEP (life extention programme) and you can upgrade old challenger 2's pretty much spells it out for you lol 🤷‍♂️. It's not a new tank it's just replacing obsolete components and then calling it a Challenger 3. It's why this program has been actioned over say designing and creating a NEW tank from scratch because that is horrifically expensive and takes around a decade. Like i said it's not a new tank lol i don't know how much simpler to put it for you.. it's just an upgrade package given to existing Challenger 2's for a cost saving over building a NEW tank and also is an excuse for closer ties to Nato by using a different gun and Nato standard ammunition and having the Germans do it for us it's all political aswell. The US does it with their Abrams except they have a different designation for each upgraded version. But still an Abrams tank just an improved version 👍 don't be fooled by the '3' moniker!. It's not the next in the series it's a fancy dancy 2! Not a new tank lmfao you have no idea what your talking about clearly... you obviously don't work in manufacturing do you?. Don't be fooled by the propaganda and don't get your information from Wikipedia or Janes lol 👍.

@dev9421

27 күн бұрын

No more colonial income mate that's probably why

Hang on. No one's talking about LT Almond. He looks like a thunder bird. Big tuff Almond with his arms folded and his ww1 facial hair

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

Personal insults are childish. He's serving his country. Show some respect

@peterwait641

28 күн бұрын

@@LeeTillbury You should hear what some soldiers say about their officers , they used to try and run the BSM over on exercise lol

Nice!

Is this more crew friendly does this variant have blowout panels? Or are continuing along side the Russians with the mindset that a crew and vehicle are expendable?

400 chally 1s 227 chally 2s 148 chally 3s …. I can’t wait for the 20 or so chally 6’s we’ll field in 2050. 👍🤦‍♂️

@MyLittleMagneton

27 күн бұрын

2050? That's when we start designing the 4s

@mitchdaytonam3

27 күн бұрын

@@MyLittleMagneton probably just being facetious to make a point wasn’t I lad, what do you reckon? 👍

@MyLittleMagneton

27 күн бұрын

@@mitchdaytonam3 I got that based on "20 tanks", but 2050 kind of beats point as that'd really good.

@mitchdaytonam3

27 күн бұрын

@@MyLittleMagneton ah righto, you were ok with me being sarky about the number of tanks, but not the year… gotcha. 🙄

@MyLittleMagneton

26 күн бұрын

@@mitchdaytonam3 Well yea, they'd be doing an insanely good job with those two numbers.

Make Britain GREAT AGAIN !!!

I want one!

@Teadrinker-kg4ve

28 күн бұрын

Literally a challenger 2

We need more of these beasts and with good anti drone tech

Thank you so much for sticking with British made! Remember we invented the tank there for we should lead the legacy with great engineering such as this, Britaina roles the fields! ❤️🇬🇧🫶🏼

@salman501

29 күн бұрын

Another one stuck in the past.

@DrPandemiczZ

29 күн бұрын

@@salman501 How the Challenger 3 is very real, so is the Bradley and American tank made with the British, we can talk about our amazing history as much as we desire, idk what the problem is.

@zhufortheimpaler4041

28 күн бұрын

@@DrPandemiczZ Challenger 3 is just a fixed Challenger 2, that got fixed by the germans again

@EricTViking

26 күн бұрын

Well said 👍

@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333

21 күн бұрын

Wrong. Challenger 3 is almost entirely produced by Rheinmetall--a German company.

Disappointing in the extreme, I hope this is a stop gap measure.

@jarraandyftm

Ай бұрын

Nobody cares if you’re disappointed. You in RAC? Or even the Army?

@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617

Ай бұрын

@jarraandyftm typical, the sheep will argue away every bad decision. The reason the military is in the state it is, is partially people like you arguing away very clear and obvious mistakes and failures.

@jarraandyftm

Ай бұрын

@@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617 do you serve?

@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617

Ай бұрын

@jarraandyftm I was barred due to Autism. I am, however, a geopolitical and military analyst and historian. I have studied Ruso-Ukrainian War extensively. This is not a new tank it's a variant of Challenger 2. The Challenger 2 has been proven in Ukraine to be obsolete and vulnerable in the extreme. Yes the active protection system will improve its survivability, but it's a half measure. It's need both a new engine and weight reduction. Turrets and hulls need reshaping on the roof to be more angled like the floors to give more protection against loitering muntions and top attack ATGMs. Still has a manned turret and the crew are not in an armoured compartment. It's also of the last generation while the US, French, Germans and Chinese are all working on the next generation that will be 15-30 years from now at which point we will be back at square one. May aswell admit this is a stop gap messure and a true next generation tank is being developed. They need 1-2 tanks per infantry company under Company and Brigade command levels within Divisions rather than at the division level as they cannot operate in any more than two's anymore. Meaning they need a lot of them.

@TwtchFlexes

Ай бұрын

​@@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617 "barred for autism", yep, that tracks

Now what would be smart is autonomous drone tanks operating with manned vehicles. The US has it with aircraft why not on land as well. Couple it with integrated drone support as spotters and flying artillery/ close air support and armoured infantry in digital mix as well and that may do something to address the manpower shortfall…and of course build and operate at least 500…

That’s cool…. I’m sure all 4 of them will really make us a military powerhouse

Finally the best Main Battle Tank in the world is here. Been waiting a while for this.

@peterwait641

28 күн бұрын

Abrams Alison gearbox is much stronger than TN 54.

@happymonkey7068

27 күн бұрын

Until it's in a battle.

@apistodiscus

27 күн бұрын

It really isn't the best. The British delusion continues

@AllMightyKingBowser

24 күн бұрын

You misspelled Leopard 2A7V very wrongly my dude

@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333

21 күн бұрын

The T-80BVM is the best MBT in the world.

Terrible music, Terrible silly thunderbird hat. Those sights that they rely on can be destroyed by a drone, no protection on them.

I hope they still have THE most important thing a British tank should have: The ability to make cups of tea incase Nigel and Gertrude get Thirsty on the battlefield.

I live down the road we’re they are upgrading challengers and my mum works next to it and she can hear them being tested

Hi, I was here first

@ratchet2505

Ай бұрын

in chat you were!

@paulamatos4947

27 күн бұрын

@@ratchet2505 yeah

Rinse and repeat stick new toys on old frames and the men and women make it work no matter. Only for us to sell it or scrap it in a few years. Plus that wet wipe with a poncy beard. Recruitment that desperate. God help us

@LawrenceReitan

Ай бұрын

So you think thousands of people behind all of this are stupid or what? Stop judging things you have ZERO idea about. People should be more humble and acknowledge that their opinion counts very little, especially when they have no idea of all the reasons and logics behind something. Pathetic to say the least

@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617

Ай бұрын

@LawrenceReitan that's the problem. These are designed by committees and to a budget. They are not designed to be the best they can or should be.

That feather on the berret and the shear number of units got me chuckling. I hope they are better than the M1A1 on the field. Wouldn’t want to see it displayed somewhere

UNLIKE EVERYONE ELSE JUST COMPLAINING, I'd like to say its clear the upper frontal plate has received an extra layer which is atleast an improvement! (despite the still, glaring driver port and lower frontal plate weakspots. Also its worth noting that its received mountings for an independent machine gun which could possibly hint at an anti drone weapon of some sort. ( I would suspect it is, given the lessons the foot soldiers appear to be being taught about anti drone warfare) Finally, its also good to hear confirmation of an active protection system of some sort. However, it is rather a shame how outdated (protection-wise) the hull remains- especially when compared to other western counterparts like the leopard 2a7- we INVENTED THE TANK - cant we do better?

0:23 Always remember to carry a dust rocker on your hat in case you need to do some last minute dusting.

Isn't that gaping hole in the middle where the driver viewport is weak point ? And why are there only a few smoke grenades ? This looks like a 1.5 version not a brand new tank

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

Have you contacted the army to inform them of this information? I'm sure they'll be so glad you did.😂😂😂

@toma3025

27 күн бұрын

They already know, most likely. Doesn't mean anything is going to change - especially if it costs money.

@razgriz380

25 күн бұрын

Got to love an armchair armour designer. Where did you get your engineering degree again?

im already dreading this in Warthunder with the huge breach and drivers hatch

@razgriz380

25 күн бұрын

Ah, yes, because a video game that has every reason to downgrade anything that doesn't come from the developers home country, is a true measure of how good a nations armour is. Gotcha.

What Regiment is the one wearing the Hackel?

Budget cuts means they'll be shouting 'Boom!', instead of actually firing.

Here come the tank experts who have no experience working on tanks 😂

is the challenger 3 going to be easier to produce or more difficult than the challenger tanks 1 and 2?

@thewomble1509

Ай бұрын

C3 is a hybrid.The Hull is from C2 with a few improvements and the turret is clad in a new armour system called EPSOM-FARNHAM armour. So it's not a new tank but a mash up , in effect.

@melodiclodgings8

Ай бұрын

@thewomble1509 cheers that makes alot sense

@thewomble1509

29 күн бұрын

@@melodiclodgings8 Glad to be of help!👍

Ok so what happens when a track is blown off with an anti tank landmine? Sure you've got armour everywhere on the body but an enemy doesn't need to destroy a tank to make it useless, just stop it going anywhere. Maybe I've missed the point, and tanks aren't used near minefields.

@LeeTillbury

Ай бұрын

Have you time travelled from 1915 dude?

Whats with the Hi Vis vests inside a hanger with a non-moving tank?

@martingardener90

25 күн бұрын

It's called camouflage - if everyone else in the building is wearing Hi-viz and you do too nobody will be able to spot you! 😂

I love it

I love the new challenger 3 wat a mean looking machine in with the new out with the old

Looks great! Hope it does everything the British Army wants! 👍 A counter argument to all the "only 150 tanks" comments below: We don't really know yet what this thing is capable off, like with most new military equipment half the specs are still unknown until it shows up on a battlefield, for all we know it does already come with a very effective anti-drone system, which would explain not needing as many spares 🤔

Challenger 3 looks & sounds like a solid piece of kit for the British Armoured units. However, 148 is not enough. It wasn't enough in a world pre War on European soil (Ukraine) & it certainly isn't enough now with the full knowledge of what Russia is up to...& we still have other hotspots to contend with...or will with the next decade.. Going from 447 Chally 2's to only 148 Chally 3's is a massive reduction & if Britain is drawn into any conflicts the small amount of Chally 3's will certainly hamstring Britain. I'm sure it wasn't the Military that chose to greatly reduce the numbers, it 100% was a political decision. The only problem with that is Politicians don't fight wars...but they do have a track record of either starting them or at least not making the right decisions to prevent them. Give the Fighting Forces the tools to do the job...& in the right numbers...not a token amount that will be attrited below 100 'serviceable' vehicles very quickly if/when things go 'real hot'.

Not sure about the big gap under the turret at the front for the driver. A shot or drone hitting near there will funnel in under the turret. No ? 🤔

@awatt

23 күн бұрын

No

We had over 900 Chieftain Tanks when those were built. Now, presuming no more cuts, we're getting about 150 of these....

Cool, can we have more?

nice, but will we have enough to make a difference?

All Ican say is „FAB Virgil !“ GJ Telford & co.

The Challenger 3 has never been destroyed in battle.

Full camp with high vis vest is a paradox

its amazing how the new challenger 3 hulls just magically appeared yet no foundry is making any ... or is it because they are using old challenger 2 / chieftain hulls and modifying them, they will be lucky if they have 40 actual tanks