Glad to see someone's testing and reasoning skills going beyond subjectivity

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

!! right! I was quite satisfied with the audio tools I had and the data showing the results. It just "pranged" into my mind one day to use those. Even tho I had already tried the Mos2 in one car and the ceramic in another with similar results.

I'm continually impressed by Liqui Moly products. Unlike most, a majority of their marketing is backed by real-world, tangible results. It's so refreshing to see with so many "snake oil" products out there. Cera Tec completely solved the oil consumption problem in my mom's Honda Odyssey, and MoS2 has significantly reduced the startup rattle in my Accord (don't worry, I plan on fixing the true problem next time I get time off).

@maxwellkeeling3781

2 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing you have the 2.4L 4-cylinder Accord? If so, highly likely it’s your variable cam control mechanism of you haven’t already diagnosed it as such. Great to hear the stuff works!

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

yeah MOS2 is good as well just not the same longevity as Ceratec. I did an oil change on my other car recently and did not add it again and it is still quiet, so it does last through an oil change

I noticed noticeable improvements in engine noise, smoothness and revving right after adding to oil. Its supposed to get better and or maintain that for many many miles ahead. Highly recommended

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

yeah the change is very quick! RPMs!

Used this on my 2017 C43 AMG and the engine runs slightly cooler, and slightly smoother now.

I used ceratec oil additive and felt noticeable improvement in the gear shifting in my 07 vw jetta 2.5 that much I can vouch for.

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

yup I had a good response in that 95 M3 I havent' tried it yet in my other cars I keep meaning to put it in the other ones

I’ve been using ceratec on my 3 little cars since 2-3 month ago since I was just curious , this is what I can tell now : - 19 years TTQ 225 -100K it’s worked, reduce engine noice and better acceleration as well I mean maybe just back to life - 2005 Mini Cooper S R53 9OK it seems better and I’m confidently this car can push hard now plus reduced engine noice too - 2016 Audi S1 2.0 tfsi 10K , I cannot tell much since I purchased but it’s still like a new but for sure it sounds a new yet better than This Ceratec liqui moly is not a snake additive like others

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah there is something "tangible" going on here!

@metesahan788

2 жыл бұрын

What amonut of ceratech you used for 3.0lt engine? 3.0lt Audi engines take 8.2lt oil.

Used it on my GTI and now on my SQ5. Revs quicker, smoother, and gives me peace of mind.

This stuff realy works.put it in my e34 m50 instant differance.wish i knew for that stuff earlier now its ready to bang rev limiter with no worries

@samthing4thetrack806

8 ай бұрын

agree it seems to be a very good product

i have in my BMW 325D nice!

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think I will do some other cars soon, since it made it to 20K+views

You recorded the tests one right after the other. The results could simply be due to the engine being more completely warmed up when you did the 2nd measurement. Were engine coolant, oil, air intake the same temperature for both tests?

@samthing4thetrack806

3 күн бұрын

do that test on your car for noise and report back

So what did I just watch? Does the ceratec condition the valve train and quiets the lifters/rockers by reduced friction?

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

very small ceramic balls- i read around .4 micron- so they get between all the surfaces and act like little bearings. Small enough to flow through the oil filter as Ceratec or MOS2. I put some in a transmission as well seemed to slick it up some. The Mini is the only one I haven't added Ceratec or MOS2. The MOS2 car hasn't need an oil change. The Ceratec did seem to stick in the 98M3 after I pulled the head and swapped it, but I added more later after that oil change. I will microphone the Mini before doing it as well and post that up

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael Costigan Ya! I put it in my 95 M3, I believe I used 2 oz as the tran takes 1.5 quarts or so (don't quote me). I haven't put it yet in my other cars, simply to see how it worked with the 95. I have had no problems at all and it did shift slicker maybe 10-20%. I use Redline MT 90 in it so it already has a very good oil. My 1st synchro feels a little worn but it comes and goes, that improved as well. Longer cycle between being "stiff"

Can this be added inbetween oil change intervals? Or do I need to wait until I do my next oil change.

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

they claim it survives oil changes, so it is up to you. as for me I did change the oil in a car I first did and it sounded quiet as before, I didn't take the same data so cannot tell you how much sound level is retained but it is an S54 which makes more noise really than the S52 normally. THe motor is very quiet. As for waiting, practically that's up to you. My track car may get an oil change soon and while I can take the same data for it, it won't be exact as acoustics are wierd.. I won't add more after that to it, I am betting tho that the average data will be close

@anguslean4058

2 жыл бұрын

It’s suppose to last 30,000 miles

it needs some time to be effective.. the noise reduce (for a certain amount of time) will have do the same with 300ml of 20w50 oil !

@samthing4thetrack806

3 ай бұрын

they claim it survives an oil change and it seems to do so, I don' have "data" on that.

@Lagrossedodue

3 ай бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 yes the protection last a long time no problem, i use it in a BMW M3

Can I add this to the engine with freshly changed oil or I have to take out some oil ?

@samthing4thetrack806

11 ай бұрын

have you filled the car to the maximum oil level? also it depends on the amount of oil the car takes at a change. I believe they say about 100ml per Liter and the bottle is usually 600. So a small amount of "over fill" is ok in my opinion. My cars are around 6L per change and I just add it. But you should think over how you would use it.

is it ok to use oil additives lice ceratec on new engines?

@samthing4thetrack806

Жыл бұрын

I would say that it depends on what the "break in" procedure is, if there isn't one then likely

Could it be just because the engine oil was more warmed up?? 🤔🤔🧐🧐

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

that's a good worry bead but no. listen to your motor does it sound different after it is running for a while? While it is true that this generation motor can have "lifter tick" you would have heard that no matter of oil temp warm up or not. I have another post with the S54, and same result but just not a good set of before numbers. I will do it on my Mini soon

Put this ceratec stuff in my 2010 X3 2L diesel, it made a lot of diesel rattle before but i swear after driving it like 1000km it sounds more like a petrol/gas engine compared to before.

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

yeah it works amazing! I would certainly want it for Turbos that are non ball bearing

@armandozoga2974

2 жыл бұрын

Do you had problem with DPF ?

Do you had problem with DPF?

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

DPF? As in Diesel? I don't have a car that is a diesel so have no comment. Someone in the comments has a 4cyl BMW diesel

I use engine shield by steel shield technologies

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

i will check it out

@VitMcG

Жыл бұрын

is it the same as ceratec

How is the results 1 year after ? Still quiet and smoother ?

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

Hey so not sure how to answer. LM says it works for 30K KM and survives oil changes. At least one oil change. I did this vid in Oct 2020, but I swapped the motor out of the car in May 2021, for no reason other than I wanted a bigger motor, that and clutch problems. However I will say I did add it to my other convertible M3 2002 e46 and it did survive the oil change and stay quiet. I do not know if it got some louder or not as I did not take data with that car. I do have video but never published it. I would say that a motor should stay quieter. How would you define a year tho? I have too many cars and the mileage is low per car per year as I use them all.

@faridh2125

2 жыл бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 Very interesting.. If it survive for 30k kilometers. I just add it to my golf mk6 4days ago, and mann i can barely hear the engine.. I can feel the gain in compression as the car runs smoother and quieter, i can't make a conclusion for now..but the results are noticable after 200klm. Now the question does it survive 30k in extrem condition

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

@@faridh2125 It survived an oil change in one car I have but I did not take data from that car. Remains quiet, it may not be as quiet as before but hard to say Someday I will do that test before and after oil change, it will not be super accurate, as I won't be able to position the car or microphone exactly but the average should show a similar result

@faridh2125

2 жыл бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 yes plz sir, thank you for your effort

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

@@faridh2125 Glad you had good results!

I find it takes 500km to work itself in to be more noticeable

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

! 5 0 0 ! KM... typo? the audio response is compelling. I will say that this is my track car and I know others that use it as well on track. No problems but I am not sure when I would "notice" beyond the sound change.

@Phil-D83

3 жыл бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 quiets it down sooner, but the full effect takes about 500km of driving

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phil-D83 Can you elaborate on the effects you see with continued use? I don't have this ind of long term use yet.

@Phil-D83

3 жыл бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 quieter motor, smoother reving and acceleration, slightly better fuel economy. With a Toyota 3.5L v6 twin cam engine. We added it to my friend's 6.2L gm v8 and it was even more apparent of an improvement, especially on the smoothness and cylinder deactivation.

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

@@Phil-D83 aha cool! that is impressive!

Ухтыжбля. Сразу помогло. Вот это дааааа. Она после этого сама топливо ещё начала вырабатывать наверное

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

hahahahha. :D

@n54power21

Ай бұрын

Я недавно залил в н54 минут 5 прошло подъехал к светофор и удивился что работает на много тише, думал что заглох мотор

Cera Tec начинает работать после 400-500 км пробега ! Перестал из салона слышать работу двигателя на холостых оборотах примерно на 300-400 км пробега . Cera Tec starts working after 400-500 km run ! I stopped hearing the engine idling from the cabin for about 300-400 km of mileage .

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

nice that's a good result to have a quieter motor, a surprise it took that long, my results are instant

@n54power21

Ай бұрын

У меня буквально через пару минут стало заметно что мотор работает тише не светофоре, залил не давно, может 50км проехал, если будет ещё лучше то супер

@gudrich

Ай бұрын

@@n54power21 Перешел на керамо эстер от маннол . Три дня назад менял масло и залил уже вторую банку маннола . Частицы в два раза меньше размером и эстеры , а цена в три раза меньше кератека. В кератеке обычная минералка . В итоге по факту уже заливал 4 банки кератека и две банки керамо эстера.

@n54power21

Ай бұрын

@@gudrich в Германии цена кератек 16 евро, манол 12 евро, как то немцам больше доверяю. Проехал уже 100км расход упал на полтора литра, пока я доволен, заливать буду не каждую замену масла, каждую вторую, плюс у меня масла больше надо больше заливать чем 1 банку, но так как 2 машины в семье пойдёт остаток 1 и 3/4 банки в туарег, там 9 литров масла, на дизеле наверное будет ещё заметнее чем на бензине

@gudrich

Ай бұрын

@@n54power21 Ну некоторые пишут что заливают по пол бутылька на следующие замены масла . Я вообще по сути перебарщиваю , бутылёк на 5 литров а у меня в движке 3 литра масла . А вообще эти частицы и китайцы продают на развес но что то я очкую их покупать , сам то не химик чтобы узнать точно это они или нет .

how much ml ceratec on 7L oil?

@samthing4thetrack806

2 жыл бұрын

300ml cera tec to 5L of oil says the bottle

Pls update after 1k miles

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

The location of the microphone was not marked nor the car position this would have an effect on the response. So it would not be apples for apples. I will say that the noise level is lower after time I just cannot back that up with hard data. I have used this in an 02 M3 as well but only have video for before and after. Both cars are considerably quieter. A friend of mine with a good ear and dislike for the normal BMW valve train noises was very impressed, he likes RX 7 rotors for their low mechanicals.

Pour LM Leichtaluf HC7 5W40 approval longlife-98 your car will thanks to it

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think they have great products. I do not use a 5w, I have to use a 15 or above or I get blowby. I am fortunate that I don't live in a colder climate.

Hey 30 000 views!!!!

LM MOLYGEN is good

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried that, it is a PAO type, I prefer ester base stock. I am not sure what LM product oil wise is that type

@PREDATOR-ALI

3 жыл бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 organic tungsten oil-club.de/index.php?thread/8697-liqui-moly-molygen-motor-protect-1015/

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

@@PREDATOR-ALI thats alot of data! In the USA zinc is seen as a primary anti wear additive and molybdenum too, it is strange the moly content is low. Zinc dialkyldithiophosphates "ZDDP"

@PREDATOR-ALI

3 жыл бұрын

@@samthing4thetrack806 Here in Germany, especially in the oilclub forum, people like PAO oils with BOR and tungsten, especially oils from Ravenol and Amsoil / Red Line. Too much zinc is not good for the catalyst

@samthing4thetrack806

3 жыл бұрын

@@PREDATOR-ALI aha, ok. interesting I will have to find more information on this trend. PAO are good but not as good as Ester base. I use only Ester in track or engines such as the S54.

So basically you waste lots of money every oil change for an audio level difference that you can only measure with sound recording equipment... 🤣🤣

@samthing4thetrack806

5 ай бұрын

that's one way of looking at it. but it does actually survive one oil change, that is not easy to capture in a definitive way but I may try it some time just to see. you do realize that sound lost is energy not being used? whether it is significant or not to a person is their call. the harder you hammer a nail the more energy you have put into it and the more sound it makes. I have found with my track car that the cycle is lower naturally, I put it in and on the second oil change it was noticeably louder after I am guessing 5K miles or more, as the noisiness creeps up. I think I changed the oil early that cycle at 7500, can't remember.