Celestion Redback, in depth look.

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The Celestion Redback is a relatively new speaker, designed to be capable of higher power ratings but sound musical at the same time... We think this speakers has a lot more applications in it that just high power setups, so here Joe looks into how the speakers acts with different amps, guitars and playing styles.
Please let us know what you think. If you have any suggestions please let us know, if you've used the G12-65's before tell us how you got on.
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Gear list:
Zilla Compact 1x12 (open back)
Zilla Fatbaby 1x12 (closed back)
Fender Eric Johnson Stratocaster
Gibson Les Paul Studio
Kemper Profilier Amplifier
Mesa/Boogie Stiletto Deuce
Strymon Riverside Overdrive
Strymon Flint Reverb
MXR Carbon Copy Delay
Beyerdynamic M160
Shure SM57

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  • @nj1255
    @nj12554 ай бұрын

    I used to overlook the Redback as some niche speaker that only were meant for use in live situations or whatever, but the first time I played one I was quite honestly shocked how good it sounds. Really good rock and metal speaker.

  • @josearjona3728
    @josearjona37286 ай бұрын

    I come back to this video every few months ❤

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    6 ай бұрын

    glad you like it mate.

  • @TheLithGH
    @TheLithGH9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the demo! I'm leaning towards the redback for sure!

  • @juliansedor7101
    @juliansedor71013 жыл бұрын

    Other than the soft box reflection on the guitar, this video was amazing. I love the lighting, the prop placement, the dude and his outfit, and the tone. Well done. And 4K!

  • @jamespowell1175
    @jamespowell1175 Жыл бұрын

    I loaded four Redbacks into an early 70's Marshall slant. I used my Randall Thrasher, and EVH 5150III, sounded amazing, the bottom end was so brutal I had to caulk the cab to kill the fart vibrations!

  • @doodle202
    @doodle2022 жыл бұрын

    It’s great that you played a bunch of styles with it. I’m a jazz-fusion-funk-blues guy, and you definitely covered a lot of ground sonically for out gang. Thanks

  • @jublaim
    @jublaim3 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a very good speaker, I like what I hear! And you're such a versatile player, it means a lot when you do a play-through like this.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Joe is good. The redback is a really cool speaker there is so many directions it can be pushed in. Thanks for watching.

  • @jupitermoongauge4055
    @jupitermoongauge40552 жыл бұрын

    I've been gigging with a redback and an old g12h 100 in an open back 2x12 cab for about 5 years. I love the sound, no harsh top end and stays tight whatever you throw at it from big cleans to overdrive and fuzz face through loud laney or Marshall 50 or 100 watt heads. Always a consistent sound at whatever volume unlike some of the lower power speakers like v30, g12 65, t75 I used in that situation before.

  • @paulroberts3547
    @paulroberts35473 жыл бұрын

    great demo helped me alot

  • @bluesful
    @bluesful3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds fantastic. Celestion have really hit it out of the park in recent times with the higher wattage stuff - the Redback and the Cream Alnico.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they have, I've always liked the Redback but I seem to like it more the more I play it.

  • @joshua0226

    @joshua0226

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey for a 100 w clean amp like the two rock tc you think I would like an ev, a redback, an alnico cream or something else better?

  • @ChadAbdulJabar
    @ChadAbdulJabar3 жыл бұрын

    Had one for one week brand new. Fantastic speaker. Celestion produces another classic.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is great isn't it... sounds better with age too.

  • @scottdavidson6066
    @scottdavidson60662 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great!!

  • @12breacher82
    @12breacher824 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic play-through and killer Daemoness V!!! The Redback has definitely been of interest since I heard some videos of a KSR played through them. The combination of frequencies and voicing is darker to me and that is very appealing!

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. It is a great speaker. I'm glad you enjoyed the speaker

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum87834 жыл бұрын

    It sounds glorious, really unrestricted and breathing to my ear :-)

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Christian. It is a great speaker... it seems to get better every time I hear it.

  • @richwilson239

    @richwilson239

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is great.

  • @DarrenPrice333
    @DarrenPrice3333 жыл бұрын

    I use these and a alnico cream, in both my 2x12 cabs 🤘🏻

  • @jeremywebster82
    @jeremywebster824 жыл бұрын

    I've become a pretty big fan of the Redback's. I put 2 of them in my Rivera KS312 cab and they sound amazing. Been a long time use of G12K-100's so having that high headroom and full bottom end is important for my sound. What I love about the Redbacks is that Crunch they bring back to my sound that isn't over bearing.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's really cool especially as you went to them from a K100. What kind of stuff do you play?

  • @jeremywebster82

    @jeremywebster82

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs Primarily metal (Baritone or 7 strings in B, A# or A) but I did play in a skate punk band for a bunch of years as well.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jeremywebster82 Cool, we're finding the redback is working great for that kind of stuff. Nice to know they are working for you.

  • @gentelmanjunkie542
    @gentelmanjunkie542 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, I gotta get one for my Katana 100 Mk2 now.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    Жыл бұрын

    let us know how you getone. Just measure up and make sure it fits in there alright first.

  • @paulroberts3547
    @paulroberts35473 жыл бұрын

    my zilla fatbaby cab redback1x150w speaker sounds great with my blackspirit 200 thanks lads paul

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was a nice cab, I'm glad you like it Paul.

  • @paulroberts3547
    @paulroberts35473 жыл бұрын

    The 1st gig coming up on the 19th June and dyeing to use my 1x12 fatbaby 150w celestion.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Good to hear people are starting to have gigs come in.

  • @kittysofdoom6968
    @kittysofdoom69682 жыл бұрын

    I have the Celestion Redback. I really like it. I had it in my Peavey 6505+ combo and it sounded great. I now have it in a separate 1-12 cabinet (Peavey 1-12) that originally had a blue Marvil and it changed the sound. It now has a really high Shrilly spike to the frequency high gain. Same tone but the added high buzz. I tried a REVV head, PRS head and Carvin Head all had the buzz. Now i will try a different cab to put it in and see if it fixes it or back in the 6505 it goes were it sounded great. I found out cabs make a big difference in tone.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh yeah, the cab does make a big difference. I hope the issues sorts itself out.

  • @passionplayer7

    @passionplayer7

    Жыл бұрын

    How did the cab/speaker process go?

  • @kittysofdoom6968

    @kittysofdoom6968

    Жыл бұрын

    @@passionplayer7 I left it in the peavey single 12 cab. for now. I have my other carvin single 12 cab with the eminence dv77 speaker in it. When I use them together, they pair pretty good.

  • @JaimeNoro
    @JaimeNoro4 жыл бұрын

    The Redback is a serious speaker. Still Celestion flavoured, with that 3-D crunch we associate with Greenbacks and V30s, but toned down a bit for more and deeper low end response, with less of those high mids that some people find a bit harsh. I really love the one I have in a 2x12. Right now I'm trying to decide which speaker to pair it with that still retains the beefy-ness without being overpowered or become overpowering. The goal is to have a pair that sounds awesome in the room as well as diverse when mic'ed. If it wasn't a studio cab I'd just get another Redback and call it a day. I tried pairing it with the Creamback 75, but even though they're both rated at 100dB, the Creamback was louder due to its more prominent mids, which I thought were too much with my amp of choice, the ENGL Blackmore. The V30 was even worst in that regard. In the past I've had great experiences with the Heritage 65 that you guys have demo'd recently, but rated at 97dB it would probably be drowned by the Redback. Also, I tend not to mix speakers with different sized dust caps (the Creamback was an exception) as they are have a different way of spreading out the higher frequencies, making the pair sound even more unbalanced as you walk around the room and making it difficult to dial the amp for both speakers. That's why I'm not an x-pattern guy with 4x12s. Do you guys have any suggestion?

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is a really interesting one. Have you considered the H heritage? Do you have any particular requirements on power?

  • @jb-im1ii
    @jb-im1ii2 жыл бұрын

    How would you say this compare to the G12B150 that Marshall used in the 1912 for years? Would it be wroth it to upgrade or are they close?

  • @i3oosted
    @i3oosted4 жыл бұрын

    Im worried about you guys, you need to purchase a heater or something.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    haha we need an AC now it's frigging boiling ;)

  • @cheycasters

    @cheycasters

    4 жыл бұрын

    hahaa

  • @yessitsme6884
    @yessitsme68843 жыл бұрын

    Would this make sense in a 1x12 cab to take on a 100W Mesa Badlander? I will be feeding the house mix with the IR output so this is only for stage monitoring, but I'd like the tone to be closeish to the IR used (Mesa 412).

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think that would be a good choice. It is still a very musical sounding speaker, and it is probably the highest powered speaker that I think covers that many bases.

  • @enriquekikzdelapazbichain1126
    @enriquekikzdelapazbichain11263 жыл бұрын

    I have a silicone sealed oversized 4x12 but it comes with legends and they´re really dark... Do you guys think it will be a good idea to load it with redbacks? 4x12 oversized redbacks and silicone sealed :D I want it for my studio

  • @scampthelazycat9891
    @scampthelazycat98913 жыл бұрын

    I bought a compact 1x12 from zilla loaded with a greenback, can I ask you guys.....if i wanted to fit a redback to it, is the spkr removed from the back of the cab or does the front detach with the baffle ?

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Always good to hear people using our cabs. Nearly all of our cabs are rear mounted so it should just fit right in. If you are getting the speaker as a direct replacement and are in Europe we can still sell them at the usual subsidised rate.

  • @yoothasakphimolmas3029
    @yoothasakphimolmas30294 жыл бұрын

    Nice review guy..! What's the best 2X12 Combination together with Redback in your view? Greenback, Creamback or even Alnica Cream... Now I have Redback in 1X12 Closeback cab... Love it. And thinking about upgrade to 2X12 to add more charmy midhigh - high frequency.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oooh that's a good question. In all honesty we haven't used the redback much for mixing as it is often used by itself. We did use one with a H creamback a while back and that sounded really cool.... two slightly different slants on what is quite a similar sound.... I think there is a video in this!

  • @yoothasakphimolmas3029

    @yoothasakphimolmas3029

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the info :-)

  • @AlexAlex-sf8sg

    @AlexAlex-sf8sg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mix it with a Eminencce Governer.!

  • @scottdavidson6066

    @scottdavidson6066

    2 жыл бұрын

    H75 Creamback.

  • @rjwagz
    @rjwagz Жыл бұрын

    Great overview of this speaker. How would you say it compares to a classic lead 80?

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I'm glad you like it. The CL80 is a tad more articulate but they are both pretty clean speakers... the redback more so that the CL80. We actually did a head to head between these two speakers but never released it for some reason..... we should get it out there.

  • @levikalkman5934

    @levikalkman5934

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ZillaCabsPlease do so, would love to see it!!

  • @reggieandrade4098
    @reggieandrade40983 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Great video. Wondering if you paired the Redback with an Alnico Cream in an open back 212? I currently replaced one of the speakers in my Two Rock 212 cab with the Alnico Cream. I was going to go with another or a Redback. I play all genres of music so hoping to achieve a well balanced blend for this. Many thanks.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Reggie, I see no reason why it wouldn't sound great, it has sounded great in just about every combination and situation we have used it in. I can't say I remember ever mixing it with an alnico cream but I think it should sound great. The alnico cream sounds great with a H creamback and that isn't all that far away tonally from a redback.

  • @reggieandrade4098

    @reggieandrade4098

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs I've gone with 2 Alnico creams......amazing!!!!!

  • @stanmuso1
    @stanmuso13 ай бұрын

    I’m think of replacing the H Creamback 75 with this. I’m finding the H75 too bright and scooped on a Hotrod deluxe?

  • @jacobbockover1628
    @jacobbockover16283 жыл бұрын

    You guys tend to pick speakers I like. So im wanting to replace my hot 100 with a lighter speaker. I wanted a neo creamback but my amp seems to only work with 4 ohms. What would you go for that can be had in the 4 ohm range? I was looking at a Jensen (they seem to have a few 4 ohm) they have a neo tornado jet. I can't really go out n just hear stuff right now

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jacob, I take it you have a 1x12. I would say something from the Jensen range would be a good shout, or take a look on ebay for a special order4 ohm speaker, the sometimes pop up. Jenses do make quite a few 4ohm speakers and have some more modern sounding speakers.

  • @jacobbockover1628

    @jacobbockover1628

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs I ended up going for a Wgs (warehouse guitar speakers) et65 I think it will complement my 6l6 amp. When you order off their web page you can choose 4 8 or 16 ohm on all their models

  • @adamtimbrell
    @adamtimbrell2 жыл бұрын

    You are a brilliant guitarist Joe. Have you time to do some KZread lessons? I'd love to learn a few of your licks!

  • @cheycasters
    @cheycasters4 жыл бұрын

    Man that. red back is the best sounding "green back" demo yet.....

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do you prefer it to the greenback? I think if you didn't know it had a 150 watt rating you wouldn't never guess that.

  • @zuckeraffen7803

    @zuckeraffen7803

    3 жыл бұрын

    Na its very different from most greenbacks. Much fuller and more low end

  • @-LSTR-
    @-LSTR- Жыл бұрын

    How would this one combine with a Fullback in a huge 2x12/15? Love the cleans wow

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    Жыл бұрын

    The Fullback sound cool with the redback, it also mixes well with the V30 too. We recently made a cab to do this and I loved it, I think we will try and make a video where we mix a load of speakers with the fullback and see what happens.

  • @-LSTR-

    @-LSTR-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs lets goooo, would love to hear it

  • @tubeaddicted485
    @tubeaddicted4853 жыл бұрын

    2x12 closed back with stiletto trident. Cuts without beeing to sharp, and moves enough air without getting boomy. Next amp I'll get is a Framus Dragon, that amp reacts like day and night to different speakers. Some time ago I used it with Celestion Neodyms, Jensen Neodym, V30, greenbacks, creambacks, Sheffield and so on. We will see how it works with the Redbacks.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have a Trident here, the Stiletto amps are one of my favourite amps, I just love them.

  • @nickspann89

    @nickspann89

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve actually been hunting a dark speaker like this to match with a Stiletto (amp can be super piercing). Glad to hear these sound good with them. Stiletto is a great amp in the right hands. Curious though about the A types as well though any thoughts?

  • @cheycasters
    @cheycasters4 жыл бұрын

    CLOSED BACK!!!!! ;)

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    You prefer the closed back? I probably do too, but there is a nice ambience in the room with the openback. Thanks for watching.

  • @lancemargolis9836
    @lancemargolis98363 жыл бұрын

    How do these compare to the g12-65 at normal volumes? Much darker? My strat has cs69s and is bright, but my sg is a little darker.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lance, the G12-65s are a tad brighter I would say. I love the 65s with a strat though, it is one of my favourite speakers in an openback format with a strat. The Redbacks are a tad darker but they are both really nice speakers. What kind of music do you play?

  • @lancemargolis9836

    @lancemargolis9836

    3 жыл бұрын

    Blues and classic rock mostly, but I'll dig into some 80s hard rock/metal, too. I love the fender bright chime, but have a be-od deluxe for british gain (the best). I boost the mids from that pedal now, dont want to get muddy.

  • @artgillespie162

    @artgillespie162

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which speaker would be best for country and surf and lots of clean headroom

  • @davidstump
    @davidstump2 жыл бұрын

    HEAVILY considering getting a Redback for my 2x12. Any suggestions for what to pair it with? I run a 120 watt head and do everything from crystal cleans and fx -heavy ambience, to high gain chugs and leads. Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks!

  • @gr070491

    @gr070491

    Жыл бұрын

    v30 or G12m-65

  • @zackmonk3054

    @zackmonk3054

    Жыл бұрын

    G12K-100

  • @trueworld3857
    @trueworld38572 жыл бұрын

    Are the cabinets closed back

  • @hectikmgj
    @hectikmgj4 жыл бұрын

    Curious how this would pair with an Eminence Legend EM12/EVM 12L

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's a good call. If we get one in the workshop I will make sure we record that. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @hectikmgj

    @hectikmgj

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs if I get a chance to beforehand I'll make a clip and post it.

  • @thecajunspoon2855

    @thecajunspoon2855

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have this combo and it's glorious!

  • @hectikmgj

    @hectikmgj

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thecajunspoon2855 with which one the EVM or the Eminence clone?

  • @paulroberts3547
    @paulroberts35473 жыл бұрын

    im going to order the fat baby cab with the redback 150

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great, let us know if you have any questions.

  • @drewg3087
    @drewg30873 жыл бұрын

    Is there a big difference between the 8ohm and 16ohm speaker? I have to replace my redback in my 68’ CDR. I love it but my original redback got voice coil issues. Want to switch it with a 16ohm redback.

  • @1974zah
    @1974zah3 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, can you share your Stiletto settings for these recordings?

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ooh I honestly can't remember what they were. I take it you are a fellow Stiletto user too, they are amazing amps, I love them.

  • @1974zah

    @1974zah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs yes! They are amazing and I've been using one for about 10 years. Very unfairly panned on the internet. I think Mesa would still be selling them had they paired them with a better speaker/cab. I don't care much for the Stiletto with V30 and/or Recto cab. Even the Mesa C90 is a much better speaker. I love the Redback. Running one in a semi-open 1x12 with my Dual Rec and Roadster heads. It's perfect and not gonna blow it at full power.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1974zah it is one of my favourite amps... I do like a Marshall though and I'm too lazy to spend the time working most Mesas, so the Stiletto was perfect for me.

  • @1974zah

    @1974zah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs most Boogies do take some dialing in. The Stiletto is mostly set and forget.

  • @1974zah

    @1974zah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs do you guys do a 1x12 that's wide enough to sit under a Stiletto?

  • @metalasfck4752
    @metalasfck47522 жыл бұрын

    Think I'll put the RB in my fender mustang

  • @dominikpohli2381
    @dominikpohli23813 жыл бұрын

    is this speaker close to heritage g12h30 watt 75 hz

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really, the anniversary has quite a bit more bite, a bit more in the top end and breaks up a lot easier This is more like the H creamback I would say, but more clinical.

  • @dominikpohli2381

    @dominikpohli2381

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs thank you for the answer

  • @xenod1066
    @xenod10664 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to hear a comparison with the redback and an old g12h 100, and maybe the 12h75 creamback.

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had a set of H100's in an old Marshall cab back in the day. They are great speakers. I was trying to get hold of a set a few months back but the deal fell through...... I'm working on it though. Thanks for watching.

  • @xenod1066

    @xenod1066

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZillaCabs Thank you.

  • @Earlvis
    @Earlvis Жыл бұрын

    I’m shocked that it’s rated at 150 watts and sounds like a 30 watt speaker!

  • @ZillaCabs

    @ZillaCabs

    Жыл бұрын

    It does act like a high powered speaker but I think the thing that a lot of us like is that unlike a lot of high powered speakers it is still quite musical with the guitar. Thanks for watching.

  • @RustyShackleford-pf3lz
    @RustyShackleford-pf3lz Жыл бұрын

    Redback and Eminence Tonker are very very similar

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