People often forget that speakers can greatly change the sound of your guitar rig. I’m looking to get a cab with Greenbacks because I play metal and classic rock. But I like a speaker that lets the cleans chime. Great demo! Love that cab too!

You know there are TRILLIONS of speaker shoot outs on YT - from REALLY top channels like Pete Thorn and on down the ranks to us regular people. Most are somewhat useful, some are very useful, but I gotta hand it to you guys: you really are able to demonstrate the essential tone and qualities of every speaker while also adding some insight into cabs. The first video of yours that I watched was the Blue, Gold, Ruby, Cream comparison (first one.) First I thought maybe too much talk - but no. Your comment about a small, open back 112 showing up the weakness or strength of a speaker was dead on. I own/have owned most of the speakers you demo and everything you say about each one is exactly in line with my experience. Speakers and cabs are a tough, tough subject to cover accurately and usefully. You guys earn a WELL DONE!

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve, that is very kind of you, and I get your initial thoughts on the amount of talk. I kind of like the speakers/playing/sounds to do the talking, that is where the sound is but some people like to hear us (often me) ramble on too. We try and aim those videos at people just getting in to speakers up to those who have extensive experience, and I'd be the first to encourage people to hit up those time stamps in the description ;) Thanks for the kind words and encouragement, it is always really nice to hear feedback about what we are doing. Paul

This is the speaker I swapped into my DSL20CR instead of the stock Celestion 70/80 and it was a night and day difference.

@ZillaCabs

3 жыл бұрын

Yaeh, I can imagine it is a great speaker for that.

@rahmathidayat7292

3 жыл бұрын

I want to try it because use 20dsl

@heythere6983

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what the difference is , I have multiple amps with that speaker and am looking to change it or get an extension to compare the sound . I get quite a lot of beef in my blackstar club 40, and I also play p90s which push the mids forward and tame the high end a bit. Problem is these speakers are rated so low I’d have to get multiple. My 70/80s don’t sound terrible since I to that speaker and I’m not eqin to a dark speakers, swapping it out and leaving the eq the same , obviously the 70/80 will sound thin If I were to leave the eq set as I did for a darker speaker . But I’d be interested in a slightly less scooped sound for more midrange detail .

@dougjfindlay

2 жыл бұрын

Some here! Night and day improvement over the 70/80 in the DSL20CR

Lovely playing as ever, sir!

binge watching all your posts. You are a cool player. You do doom rock but have all the blues stuff too! I have a greenback 25 on its way.

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Joe is great.... that's why I get him to do the playing and not me ;)

Great speaker, super tasteful playing!!

@ZillaCabs

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you like it. Joe is a great player.

Beautiful Les Paul

Your soul really shines through on the Black P90 Les Paul. edit: Phenomenally tasty stuff :D

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. Joe is a great player.

I have watched a lot of vids lately from this channel. I have been looking for a 12 inch speaker to put in my Stageright combo. But, someone on my local Craigslist has a vintage 2X10 Vox cab for sale, so I thought I would look at what 10" things I can put in it. This 10" Greenback sounds great ! I'm thinking of pairing it with a 10" Gold alnico, but having a switch to go between the two, or have both on simultaneously. I build amps as a hobby, thinking I could get a lot of use out of a cab like that. Great vid, love the tones. 10" speakers are now on my radar.

Great blues on that Studio!

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

Joe's a great player isn't he.

Nice playing 👍

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Joe does play great!

a timeless, nuff said.

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

yeah its a great speaker.

It is THAT sound!

@ZillaCabs

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm a fan of the greenback too for sure.

2 80W ICONIC EVH Heads one 4x12 cab loaded with WGS 25W Green Berets and for some added definition to that mid range a second 4x12 loaded with 2 WGS 100W BlackHawk HP Alnico 100W and 2 WGS 50W Invaders

The sound is AMAZING! Great Job… I hope to have one Zilla Cab with G12M some day!

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, that's very kind. Let us know when you're ready.

Thank You!

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

The pleasure is all ours Carlos. Thanks for watching.

That C# doom stuff sounds great through the Greenback!!

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

It is surprisingly at first isn't but, but then you think a log of the doom guys like old Orange cabs and they would normally have the H greenback in. The M greenback often gets put in the vintage tones category but its just a great speaker so will do loads of stuff. Thanks for watching.

Thank you for this great video. Your clips help a lot to find the right speakers. I would love to hear similar videos of the G12H Greenback (55 Hz) G12K100 Alnico Ruby and the Alnico Cream. Thank you! Stay safe!

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, that is very kind of you. We did an Alnico speaker shoot out but we are planning on doing more of these in-depth looks in to speakers.

Bro, you got huge hands. The G12 is awww yeah

@ZillaCabs

3 жыл бұрын

Actually Joe's hands are normal size, he just uses miniature Les Pauls ;)

Just got this speaker today for my Marshall dsl20cr to replace the stock seventy 80 and in the 15 minutes I got to play it before work I can’t wait to get home and play it more. So much better! Mine is 16ohms though

@ZillaCabs

3 жыл бұрын

They are a great speaker and definitely more Marshall than the seventy 80. Glad you liked it.

@blueshadow3812

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZillaCabs i have this speaker in my vertical 2x12 with a sventy 80 . Would you reccomend 2 x12 greenbacks or is there a popular choice for a vertical 2x12 thx love the video.s

@RG-yz8ov

3 жыл бұрын

@@blueshadow3812 your already limited buy the (25w) gb in terms of wattage so you may aswell ditch the 70/80 and get another great sounding lower wattage speaker, a H or even celly blue, I have the gb25 n blue in a 2x12 in series very happy with it. I can't imagine the 70/80 is helping the sound but I guess that's dependent on alot of factors

A really interesting video you guys could do is a shootout between the Creamback M and Greenback M, BUT, something like a Creamback M in a 1x12 and Greenback Ms in a 2x12. The Creambacks are quite different from the Greenbacks, but I've often wondered if one could simulate a set of Greenbacks. Just an idea.

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

That's a really good idea Ryan. We are putting together a list of video ideas, it's just finding the time at the moment, but that is definitely a good shout!

you shred bro

great video. a quad on greenbacks never sounds bad. mixes great with h30 and v30.

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen, that's great, I'm glad you like it. You really can't go wrong with a greenback can you.

@texxhexxmm

4 жыл бұрын

i love the Greenback/H30 but with a v30 and a greenie there is some phasy sound/ loss in bass and whoomp ;)

@joshuaallgood7030

3 жыл бұрын

@@texxhexxmm What about all 3?

@texxhexxmm

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaallgood7030 you mean in a 4x12? I Love the UK V30 /G12 H30 in X Pattern at the Moment.Maybe try creamback M with UK V30.

@joshuaallgood7030

3 жыл бұрын

@@texxhexxmm I was thinking 3 4x12s. One with Greenbacks, one with G12Hs, and one with Vintage 30's. I have this dream setup where I have 100W Marshall, Orange, Hiwatt and Laney heads running through 2 full stacks. 3 of the cabinets with Celestions and the Hiwatt running through a 4x12 with Fane Ascensions. Just installed a Vintage 30 in a Fender Blues Junior III. Already an hour in, and I'm getting tones unimaginable with the stock Eminence Speaker. Can't wait until this speaker breaks in.

Great playing and sounds as always, that Ibanez with the Fuzz was incredible. How would one of these M Greenbacks compare to the same cab loaded with a pair of G10 Greenbacks?

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the fuzz was sounding cool! Thanks for that Patrick. In all honesty the G10 greenback to me isn't a massively usable speaker, like the greenback is... it is possibly my least favourite of the Celestion 10s as I always feel like I'm going to blow it up. The G10 creamback is much more like a 10" version of the 12 than the G10 greenback, if that makes sense.

Thanks for this excellent video... very well done in every way. I'm wondering if this speaker is an older "vintage" speaker, a Chinese reissue, a newer one assembled in England, or some other version? The number of Celestion models can be dizzying, and they all sound different. Thanks.

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it, it is the H's where things get really confusing, I bet there must be a dozen of those in the current range. This is the classic series Greenback, which is now made in the UK... but not to be confused with the Heritage M greenback which is supposedly discontinued (but you can still get them). I hope this helps... thanks for tuning in.

Thanks for the video interesting comparison with the clothes back and open back in my opinion greenbacks need to breathe a little bit to sound their best so if I was only using one or two of them I would do it open back or four of them with a closed back sensors more hair space space inside. If I wanted it chug chug on some thing that has only one or two speakers and probably do a closed back when we with a finish 30 instead. Cheers

In my collection of guitar speakers i have of course a pair of G 12 M Greenbacks. and of course made in england... hehe... :) after some months of tryouts they came to rest in a self made vertikal 212 closed cab mounted from the front . a period of months after that it came clear to me that it is no good to have isolation inside the cabinet. so i pulled the polyester badding out of the cabinet. now im happyer with the sound. after 30 years of gigging as a bass player i don,t do recording. just noodling around at home. ahh and this box is just arond box no 80 ... somethig ... i don,t know. i have build public pa systems. bass and guitar cabs. hifi cabs. car doorboards and subs.

From the early 70's to the mid 80's I had a Marshall plexi super lead 100watt head and a slant fronted 4x12 wither four original green-backs,and there was a kind of sound to the (4) speakers that would throw the sound out with the movement of the speaker-box back panel.This kind of compression of the sound going into the box and then the sound being punched out like a kick drum, would send the signal beaming out in a straight line from the back of the stage only to disperse and radiate laterally about 15-20ft into the crowd.These speakers played their part in the compressed hi and low end, but the 4x12 format had a different effect from what it would in say 1 or 2x12 configurations. Thanks for making it possible to hear that great tone again, but the 4x12 format has sadly died with improved mic'ing and direct to board staging practices.The old way of propelling the sound dynamically from the backline was, I think much of the reason these green-backs have been etched into the subconscious mind is a cultural accident of adapting to the conditions of a time past-not that this will stop Celestine from pulling the nostalgic heart strings for sale.On the other hand thank God they did reissue them so those of us who want that type of sound(like an old car collector) can have it!

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. I think a 4x12 still has its place, I love that umph they give but they're just not that practical are they.

What Fuzz was THAT?! Great playing as always. Can we have combinations in the future, say a greenback and a creamback? T-75 and a V30? Creamback and a V30?

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Joe says it is a clone of a foxx tone machine, he says not to tell anyone as it is his secret weapon.... definitely working on the combinations. We have a new studio (well we will soon) and we are going to incorporate some room mics, that will make it a lot easier to show the combinations.

I'm thinking about putting this in the kustom I just bought for $60

I assumed I would prefer the closed back but that's not what came thru here. (hearing you thru some decent monitoring) Turns out I liked the way the open back sounded...Understood , it might not be that way with a band but for home or recording purposes open back is sounding good to me. Thanks

G12M 25 watt 75 hz. is such great speaker for a bluesy Strat sound!!

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Christian.

It’s hard to tell if the speakers sound great or if it’s just your good playing, lol. Maybe a combination of both. I have a Marshall 50 watt valve head with 60 watt speakers. Would you suggest swapping to the greenbacks if I want a more vintage, mid heavy tone? I feel like my current speakers don’t get enough breakup and they sound too “full.”

So question, Is the G12m Creamback generally brighter in the high mids/highs than the G12M-25 Greenback? Also I am reffering to modern/new issues for the most part. Basically Im looking to blend 2 V30’s with either 2 Greens or 2 Creams in a 4x12 or possibly even a Green/Creme blend. Also want to experiment with 1 V30 and one Green or Creme in a 2x12?

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Hi James, that sounds like a really interesting mix there. I tend to find the greenbacks just that bit more pleasant all over, I love the M creambacks but the greenbacks always just seem that bit more classy. They seem to fit in to your sound without having to focus too much on where they sit, if that makes sense... so I am always up for adding them in if you can deal with the lower power rating. An M green/creamback mix is grat, I love that and not many people do it... mixing a V30 in there will sound good with either but there is a drop in volume as the V30 has a higher sensitivity rating. That is why you will often find the V30 mixed with a H creamback.

You often use the Marshall Vintage Modern. Any chance you could do a comparison of the G12C greenbacks in the VM cabs/combo vs the G12M? Curious if there is much difference or if the G12C is pretty close

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

That is a great call. Unfortunately we don't have any of the G12C but I have my eye out for a VM combo so I will hopefully have a set one day.

@moustachio334

Жыл бұрын

That’s an amp Marshall needs to bring back

Dig the Strat tone.

@ZillaCabs

3 жыл бұрын

It's a lovely guitar, thanks for watching.

Are G12Ms made in the UK now? I've got some Neos in a 2x12 and I think I might just drop a pair of these in there - I've been kidding myself that the Neos sound like Ms, but I'm less convinced than I was.

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Andi, they are made over here in the UK now. Theya re still a different spec to the Heritage speakers. The neo's are a nice speaker but do do their own thing I think.

@Auen73

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZillaCabs Straight from the 🐎 horse's mouth......I've been hearing rumours that Celestion returned G-12M Greenback production to England!👍.......Thank you for verifying.

Man the Fat Baby Cab sounds absolutely amazing. Maybe I should order one before all this Brexit stuff is happening

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, I'm glad you like it, it is a great speaker and works really well in the Fatbaby. I wouldn't worry too much about not being able to get the cabs next year, we ship all over the world, but sooner is always good from our perspective ;)

@Guitarjosii

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZillaCabs I already have a Fatboy 2x12" and it sounds incredible! But I'm guessing it will be more expensive to get your cabs after the brexit has happened?

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

@@Guitarjosii it is hard to say, as long as shipping costs don't go up I can't see it being any more unless the EU impose punitive import fees, which I can't imagine they will. I don't think anyone knows right now but I imagine fluctuations in the pound/euro would make a larger effect. Our VAT charges are about the same so that shouldn't make much difference.

Hello my friends. Can i use a 4x12 OPEN BACK? I want to use 2 alnico blue and 2 alnico gold in X posotion.. Thanks from Portugal!

@ZillaCabs

4 жыл бұрын

You should be able to, it will sound quite different from your standard closed back design but there are no rights or wrongs in music... let me know how you get on.

@PhillipMoita

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZillaCabs no problem!

liking for jazz licks only

@ZillaCabs

2 жыл бұрын

Really? You're not a big fan of it for the rockier stuff?

@johnmiller9219

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZillaCabs nah, ,been there dona that