Made a lot of rings recently XD, will be changing it up soon enough hopefully

@William.Shakespeare

3 жыл бұрын

would you please tell me if this is a special kind of sand? i ask out of neccesity as i have about 12 grams of gold i made into pendants as i have no mould and would very much like to make a ring.

@josedariovelascosantiago8056

2 жыл бұрын

Trabajas muy mal

@josedariovelascosantiago8056

2 жыл бұрын

@@William.Shakespeare revuelve cemento d construcción con aceite d auto asta q quede con la conciencia d un norsuisa

I'm imagining Sauron making an open cast mold for the One Ring

To save my silver when I have that much excess I usually saw as close as I can and then file. Having some material from the same cast is always useful when doing repairs or resizing.

This was the method I used when I was 16 over a decade ago. Except I used baking clay and wire. Would melt the wire right into the ring impression. Problem with the open face is that I always seemed to have issues with it being mishapened like in this video with shallow and excess bits. Then I started carving out rings and such in soapstone for duplicity, but unfortunately I didnt have a jig or router to create a level bottom so I still had shallows. you had to make sure the pieces were beveled or conical or you couldnt get them out. Eventually I saw people just bending half round wire and welding the ends together and it made me feel like I had wasted my time with all the grinding, but seeing these vids made me realize I wasnt far off. Wish I had the tools to makesure my rings were plane.

@natecharleswatches

5 жыл бұрын

Making rings with wire is definitely the easier and more efficient way, but its fun to experiment with other methods

@iac4357

3 жыл бұрын

OMG, you just gave me an idea, on how to create the original to cast a signet ring !

is there a reason you prefer to use flour? my dad works with aluminum and he uses lime instead, that way you avoid the fire wich causes bubles to form and can ruin the casting. also if you are having trouble with the metal not flowing like you want you can pre-heat the sand with the torch, that way it cools slower and the metal has a chance to flow to every place. anyway, great video!

@natecharleswatches

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't even considered using lime, I'll look into it. But yeah flour was the first thing I tried and has been effective since so I've just continued to use it.

@TheSilverSmithsBench1

4 жыл бұрын

Baby powder is cancer causing, and also actual talc can be very bad. Try not to breathe the above.

@nathanlewis5682

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSilverSmithsBench1 I heard that corn silk is a safer alternative to talcum

In my high school years in my freshmen yr I made one of these for my husband I called boyfriend and fiancee afterwards. Was very nice I made a ring for him.

@natecharleswatches

4 жыл бұрын

This does put a smile on my face :) Congrats

Lovely result and very inspiring! I just started my own metal casting journey which I will be sharing on my channel. Still not confident enough to play with Silver :P

Pretty nice

Wow I love it thanks

Could you take a tube of the right size and make a mold by pressing it into the sand so deep and then cut down the casting width?

What did you use to melt the silver? A blow torch?

its much easier to grind rings and small jewelry with a file if the file is secured in place in a vice, and the work is dragged across the file. Its also easier on the hands.

I wonder if this works with cuttlefishbone casting too. thats one of the big problems, you cant get a complete cuttlefishbone pattern on a ring, cause you always have to cut off the sprue and theres just so much you can do to hide it with gravers and texturing tools

Hey man nice job, I enjoy watching your videos. I have a question for you. I’ve been dabbling with casting aluminum but haven’t had much luck with copper. Eventually I’d like to make a silver ring like this video here. I’ve been using a MAP gas torch but* as far as I can tell it’s not burning hot enough to melt the copper. I was wondering if you had any tips before I invest in trying silver

@natecharleswatches

5 жыл бұрын

Silver is much nicer to work with compared to copper and aluminium. Lower melting point and flows quite nicely. i doubt my torch would manage to melt copper to the point I could pour it. As for investing in using silver I would say go for it, silver is relatively cheap (28p per gram). I would advise using an adequate amount of flux/borax to help melt the silver down, and once molten, allow it to simmer before pouring (don't know the correct term for it but its when the metal begins spinning in a ball), make sure to pour in one quick action for the best cast possible.

@tyrantsfaceisred

5 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches right on. im doing some more research now. many thanks!

@TheSilverSmithsBench1

4 жыл бұрын

tyrantsfaceisred Try this link for temps www.onlinemetals.com/en/melting-points I have not tried to melt copper beyond small amounts but you’ll need a oxygen gas torch to melt reliably.

@nathanlewis5682

3 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches Oxy acetylene gas is much hotter than mapp gas and it'll melt copper. The tricky part about copper is it cools quickly.

Where did you get the crucible you are using? And would you recommend it to a beginner? Oh and awesome videos man you deserve way more subscribers.

@natecharleswatches

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you man, it means a lot. So i got the crucible of ebay for like £10-15. And would i recommend it to a beginner? If you have some spare time and the resources to hand then go for it I'd say

@will7919

5 жыл бұрын

FunWithFire Thanks!

@aidanhodge7090

5 жыл бұрын

@@will7919 I was doing this as a teenager its definitely beginner friendly. If you want to practice on the cheap, just do it with soldering or pewter wire before moving on to precious metals.

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What Dremel tips do you use for cleaning it up and polishing?

@William.Shakespeare

3 жыл бұрын

i use a belt sander with the belt having been completely wasted and used so it is just cloth at a high velocity . no gold loss and i just had to work with what i had on hand . i have a way you can polish without using the rouge crap they always tell you to buy if you are interested , it is just a lot to type so i wont unless you ask.

what kind of sand do u use?

To make the mold used only sand or is a sand mixed with earth? Can any type of sand be used as long as it can be molded?

@TheSilverSmithsBench1

4 жыл бұрын

Inês Eiró Look up green sand recipes Avoid sand + water Sand + oil likely better.

Fucking cool man. I wanna try this with solar concentration as my heat source but im thinking it's more difficult than it sounds. You really gotta keep that heat to the metal right up until the pour

@David-bc4rh

3 жыл бұрын

Using a fresnel lens would make orientation easier and a parabolic mirror. Get a big enough lens and you can have more than enough heat to smelt from sunlight.

What type of metal is the pan you malted the silver in? By the way I loved the video and found it to be very helpful.

@natecharleswatches

3 жыл бұрын

Its not a metal, its a ceramic crucible :)

@musaalam8771

3 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches Okay. Thank you so much for replying. I'm interested in doing this type of project but never casted something before, I've only ever forged until now.

If you dont have any files, can you just use sandpaper when finishing a piece?

@natecharleswatches

4 жыл бұрын

If it’s some really rough sandpaper it might work

@-SVN-

4 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches also, is there ways to polish a piece besides using compound and a machine? I bought a rotary tool, but dont have any compound. Say I got some compound do you just rub it on the accessory for the tool then polish the piece? Or is that not how you would do it?

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Question: How do you treat a cast ring that after pouring, after opening, you find it has many areas that have pitting? This question is for closed casting.

@TheSilverSmithsBench1

4 жыл бұрын

I mostly have had issue at the spru area of the ring and sometimes the propane isn’t enough heat. If it is heated enough it has a short viscosity flow similar to water.

@natecharleswatches

4 жыл бұрын

So if the porosity is really bad I would melt it down and try again, when you have a little bit of porosity what I've done sometimes is drill through it, plug it with silver wire and solder it

@TheSilverSmithsBench1

4 жыл бұрын

FunWithFire I have both the petrobond sand and the delft clay sand. Air flow is a factor Temp is a factor Trying repeatedly will get the result after awhile. Some videos show a hotter torch. A good torch is the berzomatic T 86oo or 46oo electric start torch, use with the yellow can map pro. The last few melts I’ve used my little smith torch with the melting tip, that works real good. The metal will flow like water when the temp is right. If the air is too big all the metal will flow through the mold. (Closed mold) Porosity isn’t real bad if you really pack the sand with a hammer and load it slowly, even on the sides and take care to pack tightly. The holes are random but most around the spru or pour area. Hopefully this will help someone somewhere.

@chantzgunnell3240

4 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest making the outside just a tad bit thicker then you want if it's a simple round ring. But I'm no professional.

@chantzgunnell3240

4 жыл бұрын

I'd suggest making the outside just a tad bit thicker then you want if it's a simple round ring. But I'm no professional.

Would creating channels prevent shallows?

@natecharleswatches

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not actually sure

@aidanhodge7090

5 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches ill let you know here in a few days.

In bae

@waijinin

4 жыл бұрын

Keren

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There's literally no advantage to open mold casting, just don't do it people, loads of disadvantages, don't think because the mold is slightly easier to make that the later stages won't be far more difficult, needlessly

@natecharleswatches

3 жыл бұрын

You're not wrong, fun little project tho

@sorchajones1788

2 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches I really like the accessibility of this, of being able to see where the silver is going when you pour it. Great for a beginner, like me, who only ever sand cast once (closed cast) in a workshop. Some people, especially me, really need to take baby steps. I completely take the point that there is lots of finishing work to do, which is time consuming. The only other open sand casting methods I’ve been able to find is for flat items, often larger and different metals. I saw that native Navajo used this method and wonder if they were the people who came up with this. In my workshop the facilitator mentioned people once making casting huge pipes on the beach in this way. That, I would love to see!

Be honest that was a complete failure

@natecharleswatches

4 жыл бұрын

By complete failure being a total success, yes absolutely

@pijnto

4 жыл бұрын

@@natecharleswatches Obviously your dictionary and mine differ on the meaning of failure

@iac4357

3 жыл бұрын

Goal- Open cast a ring. Result- Successfully open cast a Ring. Failure ?