Carlos Correa to Mets - "Take It Or Leave It!" | The Saga Has Gotten Worse
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Let's examine the Carlos Correa situation & provide the full timeline of events so far.
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I know this isn't a really big KZread channel but hands down you have covered this debacle better than anyone else in the media. I appreciate all the facts and no slant or conjecture. Let's go Mets
@TalkinTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just started a few weeks ago. Much appreciated!
@johnpastore7685
Жыл бұрын
@@TalkinTwins You found your calling
@johnnyappleseed79
Жыл бұрын
Best I’ve seen also. Good details and points made.
@Jman417
Жыл бұрын
True. He will get bigger in time.
@anotherjoshua
Жыл бұрын
it's not a debacle. a debacle would be if they found out about his physical issues after they inked the deal.
Boras just wants to get that deal sealed...that's why he didn't want to give Giants more time and quickly jumped on Cohen's offer...not expecting that the METS would scrutinize the medical..He thought Cohen is a pushover..
@johnpastore7685
Жыл бұрын
I would be the same way. Dude you failed your physical twice. You are lucky we are interested in you playing for the Mets. Take the fricken adjustment we offered you, or leave it.
@Yeshua-is-my-savior
Жыл бұрын
That why Giants don't like dealing with boras he's done shit like this in past and used us to drive up prices ..
@RobbyDR
Жыл бұрын
Happens when you greedy, his market will tank after this. Suck it up and swallow the new negotiated language in the contract from the Mets. Will be their most $$$ to years he will ever get. Boras bitch ass is known for wanting longer term contract to secure his paycheck.
@ldo1308
Жыл бұрын
@@Yeshua-is-my-savior is that why they eagerly signed another Boras client the very next day?
@BoldWittyName
Жыл бұрын
Nobody seems to be reporting the 'leak' that MLB would have nixed the Giants offer anyway. That may be the primary reason they took the Mets offer.
for starters, you really need to question any team willing to give a 28 year old player a 13 year contract for that kind of money.
@Yeshua-is-my-savior
Жыл бұрын
When your giants and in previous season missed out on Harper , Stanton , than judge u get desperate lol
@tchevrier
Жыл бұрын
@@Yeshua-is-my-savior what the heck are you babbling about.
@Yeshua-is-my-savior
Жыл бұрын
@@tchevrier read what I said idiot , u said really need to question a team willing to give a 28 year old 13 year deal , I said the giants in previous seasons tried to sign Stanton , Harper , than judge so they were desperate that's why they made offer too Correa
@tchevrier
Жыл бұрын
@@Yeshua-is-my-savior Maybe if YOU wrote like an intelligent human being rather than an illiterate idiot, people could understand whatever YOU are trying to say.
@johnpastore7685
Жыл бұрын
Especially, with two failed physical.
If he doesn't want to renegotiate Mets should move on, they would be insane to sign a him to a 12 year deal.
@turbotastic4753
Жыл бұрын
Yea Boras will eventually give the Mets a deadline on whether or not they accept the deal. If they can’t renegotiate by that time the they’ll probably pull the offer and Correa will look for other suitors
@MrCodykuczenski
Жыл бұрын
Cohen might have blown that by announcing the acquisition in an interview
@stevenlennon12
Жыл бұрын
Ur right little B. He's being unreasonable. I don't like this guy now. Let him go fail a third physical
@ldo1308
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@@turbotastic4753 that's what he did in SF
@ldo1308
Жыл бұрын
@@MrCodykuczenski just like the Giants did? Except Cohen said they NEED him...
Bro, you easily have the BEST baseball voice ever!!!
@bryceavanti339
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Joe Davis has nothing on this guy. Sir, please keep making videos.
@gdo3510
Жыл бұрын
Are you 6 years old? Go listen to Vin Scully or Bob Sheppard and get back to me.
Remember last offseason it was the exact same reason why Correa couldn't get a long-term contract. That's why I defended the Giants decision.
Carlos Correa's value is shot with two ✌️ failed physical tests. Team's won't offer a large contract.
@etamommy
Жыл бұрын
Correa needs to suck it up and go with a lower offer.
@ldo1308
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a one year pillow contract. For the next 13 years
Should’ve just taken the twins deal
@keyshawnscott12
Жыл бұрын
He probably will end up taking it
These long term contracts rarely work out well for the team in the long term. A lot of these contracts signed in the past 2 months will be total disasters for the teams that signed those long term contracts, my opinion.
@jerrscott6373
Жыл бұрын
Just look at the Cano contract.
@saryn1829
Жыл бұрын
Long term contracts are such a scam. No other sport shits out such long contracts for good reason. You literally cannot know if a player is gonna be able to perform tomorrow and you’re gonna lock someone up for up to 13 years? Insane.
@chrisnalina1755
Жыл бұрын
@@saryn1829 There is no risk for the player, the team has to assume 100% of the risk with these long term contracts.
@theb3654
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they never work out IDK why teams keep giving them out.
Arrogant Scott Boras said “take it or leave it!!”
@zhoubaidinh403
Жыл бұрын
When it's all said and done, Correa should sue Boras for malpractice!
@Landis_Grant
Жыл бұрын
@@zhoubaidinh403 How is it malpractice? Boras huddled with Correa to devise a plan to try to pull the wool over the eyes of the Giants’s owner Mr. Johnson. They were hoping the MRI wouldn’t show the plate above the right knee. When Mr. Johnson said “no deal”, Boras tried it on Steve Cohen and Cohen also saw the MRI results. Boras did everything crooked to get Correa over $300M and failed.
Boras is what’s wrong with signing players
At this point he should be offered a 60 mil 4 year deal.
@joshsuarez1852
Жыл бұрын
Eacactly!! His numbers are not that good!! He can’t run
@kevm243
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! I don't know why people think Correa is some Huge Superstar worth a $300 Million contract.... he is Nowhere near a Superstar worthy of a huge contract. Correa's best years were his first 3 years 2015, 2016 & 2017 all with the Astros (and also the Confirmed Astros cheating years... keep that in mind) even in those first 3 years he put up Nice numbers not Superstar numbers. More Importantly in his last 5 years his numbers are Mediocre at best. He has made only 1 All Star team in the last 5 years and his numbers for the last 5 years are as follows: 59 Runs Scored 20 Doubles 17 HRs 61 RBIs .270 BAvg .347 OB% Now please tell me how those averages over the last 5 years are numbers of a Superstar worthy of 12 years and $315 Million (the Mets deal)
The “take this new deal or leave it” should be coming from the Mets camp. Correa and Boris have no “LEG” to stand on with this.
I’m a giants fan and even when I looked at the numbers as a whole I thought 13 at 350 was too much, the guy can’t run, he virtually doesn’t steal bags anymore, he doesn’t hit for much power in a pitcher friendly ballpark!
Thanks for the update. ESPN and CBS sports don't care about twins news
$300 million for a sick player ??? Money corrupts .It's a team sport now not a one man show
Leave it! He just wants the money.
Correa is probably going to sign another deal just like he did last year to hit the market again in 2023-24. I wanted my team to sign him until I looked at his stats and that he has only played more than 145 games twice in his career.
@joshsuarez1852
Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking, I’m a giants fan and when I looked at his numbers I was thinking he’s not even close to Mike trout numbers, the guy can’t 🏃♂️, he can’t steal any bases at 28!!!!!
Mets have to stay strong. You can't give a dude 300+ mill with a bum leg that can cause him to miss a significant amount of time! It would be irresponsible. Cut down the years of the deal and the dollar amount . If Boras and Correa balk at that then walk away!!
@Yeshua-is-my-savior
Жыл бұрын
They know he only has years left and has degenerative issues in leg , giants wanted to do 5 year at 50 mill a year boras walked
@CrownCityBoy
Жыл бұрын
…..limp away.
At the end of the day Correa has been a Met longer then the Giants. So win win.
So happy Phil's got Turner obviously best SS in baseball
@luisalgaringomez9847
Жыл бұрын
In offense maybe, not as defender…
@baconbap
Жыл бұрын
He bobbles the ball a lot.
@jessemonev3037
Жыл бұрын
@@luisalgaringomez9847 Best OVERALL ss in baseball that better Luis ?
@jessemonev3037
Жыл бұрын
@@baconbap really that's your knock on him I need more than that to convince me he's not Big Piggie
When will Boras take his fangs out of MLB? Hasn’t he gaslighted teams and fans enough for decades? A 5-7 year deal is plenty given his steel plate leg. Short term contract but 12 years? Crazy. Correa must have REAL problems. 50/50 Cohen still throws a fortune at the guy. Probably have to reset the steel plate and his leg and cost him a year. Maybe the ankle holds out for a season or two before they get a good surgeon and fix the damn thing and a season lost. Boras is Mr Bad will. If this gets much worse, Boras should be banned. Hateful guy.
@gdo3510
Жыл бұрын
Boras is the best agent in the business and is just doing his job representing his clients and getting them the most he can. You cant just ban him without banning every player agent, which is not happening. Nor should it. Because without these agents, all these billionaire owners would take and take and take from the players and fans without anyone to hold them to account.
@dabrego66
Жыл бұрын
It’s his job, I would not expect anything less. He represents his clients not the fans or the teams.
4 years max take it or leave it !
We will leave it, let him walk the handwriting is on the wall.
Twins. Would love to see it....
@keyshawnscott12
Жыл бұрын
Same and I'm a Sox fan lol 😂
@Razorbacks1
Жыл бұрын
Too much money, too many years. Awful batting average last year with RISP.
There's no one left to sign Correa for that ridiculous 12+ years contract 6 years take it or leave it
@Jimmy1982Playlists
Жыл бұрын
I hope he finds out the hard way! The Giants dodged a bullet, no doubt...
Dude should have worked it out with the Giants. After that, anyone who would have interest would find the problem just like the Mets did. I foresee at best, a 6 year deal, maybe with an opt out after 3 years. 190 Million
@turbotastic4753
Жыл бұрын
Yea it’s kinda dumb that Boras only gave them 12 hours to agree to the deal or negotiate a new one. If the Mets deal falls through then I’d go to the Giants first just because they probably have the best judgment on how long his leg could last
@Jimmy1982Playlists
Жыл бұрын
Not sure we want him anymore... definitely not for that kinda money!
The Mets would be foolish to sign a 13 yr deal with no protection
literally everything reported is a contradiction. boras and correa willing to go to other teams if mets deal falls apart, said team will prob offer him less years and money than the mets. which im sure boras would reject. so then y leave the mets situation in the 1st place. if theyre just gonna take less and add things like options from another team? if that is the case y wouldnt they just negotiate a lesser deal in either $$$ of years with mets if thats the likely plan with another team? if im cohen i say well still give the 12 for 315 with a team option at year 5 or 6. take it or leave it cuz no other team is gonna give him that kind of money considering 2 teams have already had issues with his physical. literal common sense. if boras and correa leave 315 n 12 on the table cuz they dont want to add an option then so be it let him go get 5 for like 150 or something silly like that from the twins or whoever. mets are literally his best bet at getting 300 mil plus. point blank period. if theyre gonna add terms to the deal or take less $$$ or years than it will be with the mets. literally no sense to do the latter with any other team esp since correa has made it pretty clear that he prefers the mets and lindor. bottom line is boras as good as he is has no leverage. good luck getting 300 mil elsewhere. just sack up get ur client paid put in the team option and pray he stays healthy.
Great job from this Met’s fan perspective! Very informative and unbiased. I think it doesn’t happen with the Mets and a new team picks him up for less years but a high AAV. Opt outs only on Correa’s side
@johnpastore7685
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SEATTLE
@TalkinTwins
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Give it up Cohen be positive it's going to work out DH solely it's expensive but you can afford it
Great video talking about his ankle and the plate, gives me pause too 😮
Anything more than 5 Yr $150M is a hard no. Wait for Devers next year who is a far superior and safer acquisition going forward.
@tommybotts
Жыл бұрын
Correa is not worth 30 mil/yr. His best yrs are already gone. He's an avg player. Anyone offering more than 3 yrs is foolish.
It is risky. If sliding into second base caused an issue then its serious enough to protect against. The money can be spent elsewhere if Correa doesn’t like it. No hard feelings
Nice breakdown 👍👊
@TalkinTwins
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
He isn't getting a multi year contract no insurance company will underwrite a policy with two failed physicals
Leave it then
Mets let’s take our billions and move on. Screw him and Boras too. There are other options. Thank you but we’ll leave it!!!
Oh Well. Go Astros !
Even if he didn’t fail the physical, that is an awfully massive contract for numbers that are good, but not amazing. Never hit over 30 homers, over .300 one time, never above 160 hits in a season…not sure why he “deserved” a megastar contract
Lol he has no leverage. No one is going near those years or money after 2 different teams flagged his physical
I'ma giants fan and when this all happened I knew something wasn't right or we woulda signed him we are desperate for a star , been hearing we were worried about a degenerative issue in leg that would effect him in like 5 years
Karma, he was so mouthy after getting caught cheating, when they did not need to cheat. Tough.
Cohen needs to bring his nuts to the table and hold it down. 10 years 300 million and make sure you protect your team and the money. team option in case he misses time. you cannot give him a no trade clause and guranteed money.
I think this side show is ridiculous, talking about an injury that occurred in 2014. He has played many years and is a solid starter and contributor. He has miss some time, but Mike Trout has missed more time and has a comparable contract.
@Jimmy1982Playlists
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video?!? He re-injured that ankle with two weeks left this last season... none of those 8 seasons prior matters!
@kikatx08
Жыл бұрын
@@Jimmy1982Playlists If they had not medically cleared him, then they are fools to offer him a contract that would cover the rest of his professional career and would commit millions of dollars and put the franchise at risk. You answer all questions before that happens. There is more to this that’s not being revealed.
These multi year contracts are a joke , they always end up being a noose around the neck of younger players that deserve a time in the majors. There ARE young players that show up every year proving that they belong. Drafting better is what separates the winning teams year after year. Yankees are a good example. Spending loads of money to get a championship hasn’t worked for them. Haven’t been in the World Series for years. Same thing for their cross town team, the Mets.
Man, while it looks bad that the Mets went right in on him, they were VERY VERY VERY SMART to give him a physical
Great coverage. (From a Mets fan)
@TalkinTwins
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
So, if he signs with any team for what he wants and team is dumb enough to give it to him in gamble he will not get hurt. Well it's to big of a gamble. What happens if he got hurt during spring training or early on season and can't run anymore. He'll get paid millions to do nothing for over 10 years. Insane.
Do we want another Bonilla? I think not! 5years max!
The Mets are trying to get a discount. Carlos, go back to Minnesota.
I thought the 10/285 deal was reasonable. Now it looks like he made a mistake
Take a short term contract Correa, no one's going long term with your medical issues. Take a 5 yr for 150.mil personally I wouldn't pay you more then the other Short Stops imo
Vader keeps altering the deal!!!
None should sigh this guy for more than 3 years.
Correa's physical is going to be the same for any team he negotiates with. He needs to adjust his demands.
Mets should just contact Boston and see what’s going on with Devers
5 yrs..150 team opt out after 3
@TalkinTwins
Жыл бұрын
Not too much, not too long. Just right.
@tommybotts
Жыл бұрын
No way!! Correa not even worth 15 mil/yr.
i mean, if it got to the point where the contract offers were more appropriate for his health concerns, i'd be cool with that. i believe he can still go. only question would be for how long or if his ankle needs more work and if he'll miss time because of it. if the Yankees wanted to come in and try and offer a more reasonable offer, i'd be cool with that. ultimately i still think the Mets want to lock him down and will outbid anyone that tries to step in
What happen to Viper Island?
Correa holds no chips in this. Mets can just walk away.
Anything over 6 years makes no sense ...
Atl will swoop in and give him 4 year deal
Mets already have a a good lineup to compete with anyone in the Majors. Why they'd consider risking with a contract like this is beyond reason.
Let this diva go
A huge multiple years is unrealistic and with big money with it...he isn't worth that... could get maybe a three years best out of him realistically
They don't need correa you got batty at third save the money don't do it let the other teams figure it out he's going from team to teams like a Hooker no restructuring no money he's not that good
The Mets should walk.
he said that to them?
If he doesn’t want to restructure his contract then let him walk. Devers is a free agent next year we can try taking a shot at him. Good job bro I appreciate the content.
Leave it.
As a die hard Mets fan, I'm thrilled he failed the physical. It was way over paying for way overrated.
Cohen didn't get where he is by being stupid or a pushover. It will depend what his other options are..imo
Hell no.
Leave it! 🤣
we knew this a week ago you're late
No matter what happens, Correa will always have a top paid job on some MLB club. He came from hard times Puerto Rico back in the day. So whatever happens he can laugh it all the way to the bank. Carlos is in the best of hands and despite that rebuilt ankle, he is going to get top dollar. My message to Correa is please don't fall apart at the seams in NYC like so many Carlos s have done in the past. I'm talking about Carlos Delgado and Carlos Beltran. I awarded them the Mets Disappointment Awards for their less than mediocre performances back in the day. Beltran even jumped ship to resolve an old injury issue. Delgado thought himself to be the "excuse maker" on TV every time that the mediocre Mets lost a game. (More often than not). It was boreball at its worst. Basically both Delgado and Beltran came to the Mets to rob a salary with less-than-tepid ice cold performances. (Especially Delgado).
@chrisnalina1755
Жыл бұрын
You forgot Jason Bay, 68 million dollars they gave that guy and he did absolutely nothing good for the Mets. Delgado and Beltran had some good moments with the Mets.
@chalkbunt81
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's a funny thing about coming from hard times- once you get comfortable, it's soooo easy to forget.
@djquinn11
Жыл бұрын
@@chalkbunt81 : Tell that to Yeonis Cespedas…
@chalkbunt81
Жыл бұрын
@@djquinn11 , what are you saying? He's hit hard times? Or he comes from hard times? Even though he hasn't played, or retired, or whatever, he's still comfortable. He's not on any bread line. I find your post very BOARing.
Mets should just walk
Leave it
Back to the Giants 😂
@keyshawnscott12
Жыл бұрын
Twins
He need contract 6year 1600millions like Baez..for law..
You are going to be sorry
This is by far the BEST explanation and synopsis of the entire Correa fiasco.
@TalkinTwins
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Providing any of these rumors are true, sounds like the beginning of a very healthy relationship with the Mets when you or your agent is being so combative. Hopefully that's not true. I still want Correa to succeed, hell he already has. He's a complete baseball player.
Leave it short-term yeah long term No
Man, just go to the Orioles
Scott Boras will sue Steve Cohen for $1B!!!
Mets and Correa need to get this done!
How much money do these players need to SECURE their future? I’m glad Correa left the Astros, they just went and dug up a minor leaguer to replace him and made him a star. Go Jeremy Peña.
See this is what happens when your greedy!!!
The former Trashtro and his sleazy agent. I hope they get stuck signing another short deal or nothing at all
Yankees own twinkies
@ivandoneshefsky4762
Жыл бұрын
Who cares?
@Razorbacks1
Жыл бұрын
Astros own Yankees. So what?
Come back to the giants
Perhaps he needs to learn how to slide head first.
He should only get paid $3.50 an hour . The same wage that tomato pickers get in the migrant farm operation business, because this is going to be the best offer and employment he will ever receive . He needs to go to Japan and finish over there with Yasiel Puig if he wants to be a ball player, but making a fortune, not going to happen, buddy
Hes a met
I believe the proper response is bye
As much as I would love to see him at third......leave the deal alone.....LETS GO METS 2023 AND BEYOND!!!!!
Correa probably should have committed to the Twins long term think they got greedy and tried to hide this injury.. he should have committed to the twins long term & did the 10 at 285 & I bet none of this is even going on now. I dont think he gets a 10 year deal from anyone now I think he ends up on a 8 year around 250 million otherwise if he gets a 10 no one is committing without some extra injury language in that contract
As a Mets fan, LEAVE IT!! Take that money and go sign Bauer if he becomes a FA…