Card Draw Tier List for Commander | Ranking the Most Popular Card Draw Spells in Commander

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Let's draw some cards! Not all card draw is created equal, so we're ranking some of the most played card draw in Commander on this tier list!
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  • @monomanamaniac
    @monomanamaniac Жыл бұрын

    Elemental bond is good because it's etb not cast and it doesn't care if the creature is a token

  • @slifer867

    @slifer867

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! In decks that make large tokens like dragon decks or clones, this card can go off. Also see garruks uprising and kiora behemoth beckoner

  • @monomanamaniac

    @monomanamaniac

    Жыл бұрын

    @@slifer867 it's one of the best draw spells in my Kyler Sigardian Emissary deck because Kyler can easily make any human tokens big enough to trigger elemental bond.

  • @matthewerickson3734

    @matthewerickson3734

    Жыл бұрын

    Elemental bond with a Koma on the battlefield is bliss

  • @HanDaimond

    @HanDaimond

    Жыл бұрын

    It's criminal to see it on D tier, it's A at best and B at worst. The only drawback I can see is that you don't have a choice when a creature enters, you *must* draw a card; but that's it, it's so easy to put 3 power creatures or 3/3 tokens.

  • @Secz12341

    @Secz12341

    Жыл бұрын

    Koma loves this def not d

  • @Trisket
    @Trisket Жыл бұрын

    >Sign in Blood & Night's Whisper in C >Read the Bones in poop tier I play Read the Bones in non-blue decks that are thousands of dollars, I play it along side Night's Whisper. The ability to see up to 4 deep is well worth one extra colorless, and I'm always happy to see it in my hand and cast it.

  • @vds92

    @vds92

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree 100%!

  • @mistysowards7365

    @mistysowards7365

    Жыл бұрын

    Their just haters, read the bones is a must have just because of adding scry

  • @trehenry413

    @trehenry413

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mistysowards7365 i dont know about must have, but it is solid. Scry is definitely a nice bonus, but scry 2 is almost a full card and wont always be worth the extra mana for me. Things get a little different if you have cards like Vilis though to take more advantage of the life-loss

  • @ivorymantis1026

    @ivorymantis1026

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought they were a little too hard on it too. Foresee is honestly one of my favorite draw cards in U simply for this fact. Also if you love scry, look up "Cryptic Annelid." Thank me later.

  • @allobonjour9761
    @allobonjour9761 Жыл бұрын

    Elemental bound and garruks uprising are best when you make big token imo, which is why I play both in my dragon token deck

  • @Jimmythehead
    @Jimmythehead Жыл бұрын

    Cards like Elemental Bond and Kavu Lair are better for Token decks where you can reliably make larger tokens where beast whisperer and guardian project won’t work. Titania and Gruul Omnath come to mind.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Very fair if you are making bigger tokens

  • @santaclawsui

    @santaclawsui

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for writing that. I was litteraly screeming at the monitor when this was not mentioned. Also Elemental bond and Guardian project triger on ETB not only casts so for me as a player who plays a lot! off reanimator decks that is a huuuge upside towards beast whisperer.

  • @charliemarlow647

    @charliemarlow647

    Жыл бұрын

    This, and what santaclawsui said too about Beast Whisperer being a cast trigger. Probably should've been evaluated separately, but also probably sits around the same spot because it has the extra synergy of being a creature itself.

  • @Buberte

    @Buberte

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds I just built a Jinnie Fae deck where i create bunch of Power 3 Dog tokens, i will consider Elemental Bond for my next order ;)

  • @Deathkeeper43

    @Deathkeeper43

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds Also way better in Gishath.

  • @blazetrinity9462
    @blazetrinity9462 Жыл бұрын

    I personally think read the bones isn't even that bad. It can help you smooth out your draws in the mid game, sometimes you just need to find your next land drop in time. Sure it might not be the best card draw in the format, but it gets the job done a lot of the time.

  • @ValatY
    @ValatY Жыл бұрын

    I love read the bones Small impact, but quick, healthy carddraw with some sweet scry 2 Early, mid or lategame, I'm always happy to see it

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    Never been a fan but it is an awesome card!

  • @8BitCyberWarrior

    @8BitCyberWarrior

    Жыл бұрын

    turn 5 or 6 i would rather draw read the bones than esper sentinel

  • @dakodastevens8972

    @dakodastevens8972

    Жыл бұрын

    While I do quite like read the bones, I pretty much never play it, I prefer both sign in blood and nights whisper. There is also the 3 mana one that draws a card for each color of mana spent to cast it, the name eludes me right now, which is also better, it just feels like there isn't any room in most decks for it.

  • @nathanielknowles4542

    @nathanielknowles4542

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dakodastevens8972 I believe you’re thinking of painful truths

  • @abdus-samisiddique9221

    @abdus-samisiddique9221

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dakodastevens8972 painful truths

  • @stephentrever1769
    @stephentrever1769 Жыл бұрын

    The one aspect of elemental bond that you missed is that it triggers off of token creatures entering battlefield. So in the right deck, it can be better than both Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project. Not sure how much that would change the overall evaluation, but worth noting.

  • @zackfro

    @zackfro

    Жыл бұрын

    I love this point! It can be so much better!!!

  • @supernova86

    @supernova86

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they missed the mark on many of these cards. /facepalm

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    You make a good point but not many tokens are over 3/3 but I would love it in a Jinnie Fay deck.

  • @zackfro

    @zackfro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NitpickingNerds or in angry jellybean or Titania which both happen to be elementals. Now that I think about it, ELEMENTAL bond. What a time to be alive.

  • @nzephier

    @nzephier

    Жыл бұрын

    I have it in my sekkuar and prismatic bridge deck ^//^

  • @RefaTheGreat
    @RefaTheGreat Жыл бұрын

    Great list as always, the only things I disagree on are Rhystic Study (definitely better than Jeska's Will and Bolas's Citadel), Archmage Emeritus (should be a tier higher, feels like a double standard to rate it down when you have stuff like Reconnaissance Mission which has the same issue of being a nonX type in your X type deck), and Toski (why are you rating this lower than Reconnaissance Mission when it's a creature in your creature deck, it's at least a net neutral at worst).

  • @mibbzx1493

    @mibbzx1493

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually agree as a spellslinger player, i know Archmage emeritus could go in any blue deck 🤣 hes so good

  • @EnemyToad

    @EnemyToad

    Жыл бұрын

    Toski is also an indestructible blocker for one turn which is neat

  • @davestier6247

    @davestier6247

    Жыл бұрын

    Rhystic study will always be tier I draw.

  • @mibbzx1493

    @mibbzx1493

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EnemyToad any time i see toski, i make them sacrifice him. He’s annoying as hell

  • @chefboyardee851

    @chefboyardee851

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mibbzx1493 I know I love archmage emeritus

  • @TheTrueFool
    @TheTrueFool Жыл бұрын

    I discovered your guys' channel recently and have been binge watching episodes. I used to think think I didn't really like Commander, but I've learned a lot about how to evaluate cards and more effectively construct decks for the format, to the point I actually love it now. Just wanted to let y'all know! ☺

  • @Matazuma

    @Matazuma

    Жыл бұрын

    They have great content

  • @pauldyson8098
    @pauldyson8098 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love Harmonize. Lower ceiling than Beast Whisperer and such, but Harmonize is never dead. Unconditional draw, underrated. So too with Read the Bones. They're both examples of cards that tie the deck together (like The Dude's rug). Both are C tier for me, but they end up in a lot of my decks. At the works, they're place-holders in decks that need more on-theme draw options. Harmonize is in Trelassara, for example.

  • @TeaRanosaur

    @TeaRanosaur

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah this is a massive underrating of Harmonize right here. In a green deck without access to blue or black, harmonize always goes in (ok maybe not sythis buy you get the drift). The reason being that the rest of green card draw is reliant on you having cards in hand. If I spend early game on removal and wipes and end up empty handed on turn 6, this is the card I want, even over Great Henge (which of course is a better card but just run both).

  • @BobbyBev95

    @BobbyBev95

    Жыл бұрын

    Unconditional draw is true, but I feel like it’s one of those situations where 99% of the time there are better options. Like in Trelasarra, if you can gain 2 life then Rishkar’s Expertise and Return of the Wildspeaker both will draw you more cards because of her power. I’ll take the high upside every time

  • @pauldyson8098

    @pauldyson8098

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BobbyBev95 Honestly, I run those as well, in a few decks. It's not either/or for me.

  • @TeaRanosaur

    @TeaRanosaur

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BobbyBev95 Yeah i definitely still run those first, but I also think its worth throwing this into a list as a safety valve

  • @TeaRanosaur

    @TeaRanosaur

    Жыл бұрын

    The only other good, usually unconditional piece I can think of in green is sylvan library but its $50 so...

  • @bububu__
    @bububu__ Жыл бұрын

    I don't play a lot of commander because I live in a small town and our playgroup is narrow, but I could listen to you guys talk about cards for days and days

  • @drunkgerbil9962
    @drunkgerbil9962 Жыл бұрын

    DEFINITELY want part 2! I'd love to see more Tier lists or other video formats revisiting with what you both suggest rather than top of EDHREC.

  • @testaklese
    @testaklese Жыл бұрын

    I think that people underestimate Vilis. He's insane on his own if you get him out normally, but if you can cast a reanimate on him, it's 1 mana, draw 8, and get a huge flyer that's gonna draw more cards than you can use.

  • @RodrigoCML7
    @RodrigoCML7 Жыл бұрын

    Putting Beast Whisperer and Guardian Project as the same card is a bit problematic. The cast vs enter the battlefield matters a lot, I’ve found myself choosing between the two depending on what the deck is trying to do. Besides playing creatures how they get to the battlefield matters, which in my assessment makes guardian project an A while Whisperer remains a B.

  • @bcdfezz

    @bcdfezz

    Жыл бұрын

    Beat me to it. ETB is leagues better than On Cast

  • @MrDeeluv1996

    @MrDeeluv1996

    Жыл бұрын

    Project is better, but I always end up with both anyway

  • @angelofsolitude7951

    @angelofsolitude7951

    Жыл бұрын

    100% agree, they arent in same league and Project is much better.

  • @servinwow
    @servinwow Жыл бұрын

    26:20 “There’s too much S tier. Speaking of which, here’s skull clamp” actually made me laugh

  • @BobbyBev95
    @BobbyBev95 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this video and would really want to see a part 2! Card Draw and which ones you include in your deck are one of the more interesting parts of deck building for me

  • @narkfly
    @narkfly Жыл бұрын

    Love the new format of leaving the card up while you're talking about it. Solid work, gentlemen. 😉

  • @dcdids2011
    @dcdids2011 Жыл бұрын

    Huh, weird. I wast adjusting my deck to include more card draw just now and was about to look for a video on the topic. The nerds never fail to amaze me with their timing as I see this droped minutes ago. This is like the 3rd time that something like this has happend to me with their videos.

  • @davestier6247

    @davestier6247

    Жыл бұрын

    They can also see that blue shirt you're wearing right now. They live in your phone.

  • @JerJoGo
    @JerJoGo Жыл бұрын

    I play read the bones on my lathril elf tribal. Mana cost isn't too big a deal with typical green ramp and elves fairly low mana cost. If the mana is going to be spent to draw, it's a waste if you get 2 cards you don't need in the situation. So being able to scry and improve my odds of getting my gaming winning tutor, mana dork (priest/archdruid etc), or artifact (umbral Mantle/ staff of Dom) is worth it. Low b tier for me.

  • @petermullins3935
    @petermullins3935 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the video!! Would definitely appreciate a part 2

  • @derrickpaulson3093
    @derrickpaulson3093 Жыл бұрын

    I would say mystic rhemora and esper sentinel are A tier for you guys, S tier for cedh, but worse as the power level decreases.

  • @calemr

    @calemr

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Lower level tables play less spells a turn. And are more likely to lean monster heavy. In my experience, at least.

  • @SnuggyDabbins

    @SnuggyDabbins

    Жыл бұрын

    Ya they are casual players and watching them build these lists is pretty funny cause they think they are top tier players.

  • @davestier6247

    @davestier6247

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SnuggyDabbins when have they ever said or implied they were experts on cEDH? They must be doing something right as you watch and comment on their content lol

  • @Yubarius1215
    @Yubarius1215 Жыл бұрын

    LITERALLY last night I was asking myself how to upgrade draw spells in my Veyran deck... and here you guys are right on time!! Wonderful vids as always

  • @martinheraud1744

    @martinheraud1744

    Жыл бұрын

    What cards do you have to draw on veyran?

  • @lysander3262

    @lysander3262

    Жыл бұрын

    Imperial Recruiter getting Azami. Easy life

  • @kuna1482
    @kuna1482 Жыл бұрын

    Lol loved the intro “Card draw!!! 🥳 For commander!😆”

  • @loganrehbein7610
    @loganrehbein7610 Жыл бұрын

    I play read the bones not due to budget but mostly for power level reasons. My play group had a high level competitive phase and now we're kinda over it so read the bones is just kinda fun and decent

  • @stafford1291
    @stafford1291 Жыл бұрын

    This was great!

  • @Urahara451
    @Urahara451 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a list of your top card draws, because decks on sites typically go for the mid level pricing choice of less than $20 for anything that isn’t just famously busted S-Tier. Especially on utility spells where there is always a cheaper alternative

  • @Hyxtrem
    @Hyxtrem Жыл бұрын

    Elemental Bond is CRAZY in Ghired style decks; you draw too many cards but it's specific. I would rate Esper Sentinel and Sea Gate restoration in A. Esper sentinel is easy to remove, hard to pump for many decks so you can afford a pay 1 because it only affects the 1st casted non-creature spell each turn. I do like Sea Gate restoration, but that's so far behind the fish I don't see why it is rated this high. It's not a good card at top deck either.

  • @solovarious9864
    @solovarious9864 Жыл бұрын

    I'd just like to recommend "Recurring Insight", as a potential card advantage option for blue.

  • @LVMTG
    @LVMTG Жыл бұрын

    These tier lists are always my favorites. However I’m ready for next shuffle/scuffle.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    So are we 😂

  • @campbellsmith403
    @campbellsmith403 Жыл бұрын

    Wizards definitely did not play test with delve. Ancestral recall as a common is hilarious

  • @dokkanshitpullgod2045
    @dokkanshitpullgod2045 Жыл бұрын

    I run garruk's uprising in my Omnath, Locus of Rage deck and it basically translates to drawing a card whenever I play a land as long as I have omnath out, also helps a ton to give all those elementals trample

  • @pattap9033
    @pattap9033 Жыл бұрын

    would love to have part two of this. for example, what is Damnable pact, ancient craving, notion thief or deep analysis for you? there are so much card draws...

  • @papamatt7091
    @papamatt7091 Жыл бұрын

    Beezy and Joe always deliver great content. Love you nerds

  • @HomeCookinMTG
    @HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын

    I believe the idea behind Biden of thassa was because mono blue was a very aggressive deck in that standard format, so forcing your opponent to attack you and then bashing on the crack back with a bunch of elemental tokens from a master of waves was probably the thought process.

  • @davestier6247

    @davestier6247

    Жыл бұрын

    Does Biden of Thassa tap to creepily touch people?

  • @Squee_666_9
    @Squee_666_9 Жыл бұрын

    Read the bones is really great in a combo deck. It's awesome when you are digging for something specific.

  • @chrismcfallan8265
    @chrismcfallan8265 Жыл бұрын

    I play Rishkar's expertise in my mono green omnath deck where it is so good I often forget I can cast a 5 cmc for free and still win. Huge on it in the right deck.

  • @HokaMagic
    @HokaMagic Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised you didn't include Phyrexian Arena and Black Market Connections to rate on this list. I think I'd have Phyrexian Arena as D tier and Black Market Connections as B tier.

  • @jonhosey166
    @jonhosey166 Жыл бұрын

    The thing I think being missed about how good Esper Sentinel is comes from the fact that it is playable in mono white. It was the only white card listed for a reason. Esper Sentinel is an amazing card for it's color set even if it is not even 1/3rd as good as Rhystic Study.

  • @woomyking6090
    @woomyking6090 Жыл бұрын

    Just what i was looking for

  • @krimson459
    @krimson459 Жыл бұрын

    I really like Read the Bones because it can get you 4 cards deep which can be good in a pinch. Tons of cEDH decks are running Night's Whisper and Sign in Blood which are both two mana draw 2, and I think bones fills a similar space. You tend to get much higher draw quality which is often times better than an extra card.

  • @ConstanceMists
    @ConstanceMists Жыл бұрын

    Elemental Bond is crazy because it doesn’t have the nontoken restriction that guardian project has and obviously beast whisperer being a cast trigger means elemental bond can be nasty in specific decks. Particularly its been INSANE in Miirym but that commander is nutty in general

  • @ProfessorJabir
    @ProfessorJabir Жыл бұрын

    This couldn’t come at a better time. Thanks nerds.

  • @robboomsma6739
    @robboomsma6739 Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see part 2 of this video

  • @alexrosser3172
    @alexrosser3172 Жыл бұрын

    Esper Sentinel > Mystic Remora. It has no cumulative upkeep & Blue has tons of card draw options. Plus as both an artifact & creature it an easy target for search & reanimation.

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 Жыл бұрын

    11:45 yes, it's a green Concentrate. I've used this in an Elf tribal until Beast Whisperer came out

  • @-HASH
    @-HASH Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos ❤! Stinging Study with 5+ converted mana cost commanders could be B+ to A+. Personally I use it in my Karador Ghost Chieftain deck to draw 8 card for 5 mana/-8 life at instant speed.

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    We love stinging study!

  • @BattleAxeRX

    @BattleAxeRX

    Жыл бұрын

    I use it in my instants matter non blue 4c deck. Dune brood? (Cmd is 4mv)

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 Жыл бұрын

    Played a game yesterday and a rhystic study drew like three cards through an entire game. Never been so proud of my table

  • @reeces.8777
    @reeces.8777 Жыл бұрын

    I love your content so much! Your rankings are always *chef's kiss*. I would love to see a video in the future where you rank the most fun new commanders that have come out this year!

  • @stevefink2824
    @stevefink2824 Жыл бұрын

    One of the things about cards like Read the Bones and Harmonize is they don't draw hate or counters because of their power level. Its nice to be able to let something resolve early, before your bomb spells, or after your bomb spell gets countered. Also, they aren't bad cards, but if you compare them to the best cards of course they're gonna suck. Comparison is the thief of joy.

  • @jigstraw2809
    @jigstraw2809 Жыл бұрын

    Rishkar and Wildspeaker are S-tier in my buddy's Omnath, Locus of Mana deck. He doesn't draw 6 or 7 off them. He usually draws anywhere between 20 and 50 XD also runs greater good/life's legacy/momentous fall/soul's majesty/garruk, primal hunter for more of the same type of draw. it's gross deck ramps out of control and gets a huge body in the process so they're basically auto-include.

  • @jacobisaacs4160
    @jacobisaacs4160 Жыл бұрын

    That’s amazing thank you 🙏

  • @ominousanonymous
    @ominousanonymous Жыл бұрын

    Bolas's citadel is so good. I think I've won twice by using its tap ability. If you have sensei's divining top you can draw a card for one life, add an aetherflux reservoir and you can gain massive life.

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175 Жыл бұрын

    If you are including bolas' citadel, I would have included mystic forge

  • @dreamtoast1553
    @dreamtoast1553 Жыл бұрын

    Elemental Bond would be Amazing in my upgraded Draconic Rage deck I’m building. With the commanders ability it would make for a lot of card draw. Will definitely have to add this card.

  • @Malverde888

    @Malverde888

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s cool with Dragon Broodmother

  • @dreamtoast1553

    @dreamtoast1553

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Malverde888 I picked up that card while I was at a LGS, I was new to magic at the time but I thought it looked cool and would be good in my Draconic Rage deck 😂

  • @Malverde888

    @Malverde888

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dreamtoast1553 yeah i had Vrondiss dragons/combo built and with the Devour tokens she would draw a lot with Bond.

  • @pipsdontlie3031
    @pipsdontlie3031 Жыл бұрын

    Read the Bones is godly, it's basically 3 mana draw 3 with the scry and unlike cards like Study (which don't get me wrong, is still better) is immediate, you don't have to wait to get the value out of it. No nonsense draw=to the mana you paid is amazing.

  • @RecoveringSpartan
    @RecoveringSpartan Жыл бұрын

    I can't tell if Weatherlight Compleated is good in Ghave (without infinite combos) or if it takes too long to turn on

  • @tommieboi707
    @tommieboi707 Жыл бұрын

    Garruks uprising is a staple in dragon decks. It is awesome in my ur dragon deck. Same with temur ascendancy. When you have big dumb dragons, those cards work really well.

  • @Basimilus
    @Basimilus Жыл бұрын

    what do you think about Inspired Tinkering as a budget Jeska's will? I like that you can play the cards EOT for next turn compared to jeskai's.

  • @valentinealexander-romanof6751
    @valentinealexander-romanof6751 Жыл бұрын

    Harmonize isn't the best, but when you're playing 10-12 draw spells in Green/Gruul, it's nice to have a spell that isn't dependent on the size of your biggest creature, or playing creature spells, or how many creatures you have, or paying life. At least one unconditional draw spell is always nice.

  • @DanZigs79
    @DanZigs79 Жыл бұрын

    Elemental bond triggers off of tokens. It’s great in Koma or Omnath, Locus of rage.

  • @brian6616
    @brian6616 Жыл бұрын

    The only time i would play read the bones is if I already have both night's whisper and sign in blood and I still feel as though my card draw is lacking. Also can be fun in the new Sheoldred.

  • @sstankfish
    @sstankfish Жыл бұрын

    Haven't watched you guys for a while now, (been out of magic since like March) but your hair and beard look great Joe!

  • @winniebowser4447
    @winniebowser4447 Жыл бұрын

    Elemental Bond puts in the work in token/ETB decks like Miirym or Ghired. The ETB can have a high ceiling in the right deck

  • @jacobharris7414

    @jacobharris7414

    Жыл бұрын

    I run it in my Omnath, Locus of Rage deck

  • @winniebowser4447

    @winniebowser4447

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jacobharris7414 yesss such a good deck for it

  • @karlgrylls2406
    @karlgrylls2406 Жыл бұрын

    Why didn't get Windfall a mentioning? It's 3 mana for often 5cards or more.I want to put it in my 5c Deck, because often i ramp out and are left with max. 3 cards in hand. Additionally i have a Smothering Tithe in my deck which is bonkers with Windfall

  • @dirtyfrench2926
    @dirtyfrench2926 Жыл бұрын

    List is missing (from what I own at least): Yawgmoth, mono green Selvala, Twilight Prophet, Grim Haruspex/Midnight Reaper, Erebos, Plumb the Forbidden, Fecundity, Glimpse of Nature, Primordial Sage/Soul of the Harvest, Greater Good, Secrets of the Dead, Monastery Siege, Verity Circle, Greed, all of the Monarch/Parley Mechanics and everything in white besides Esper Sentinel. I hope they (or you 2 if you see this) cover a few newer draw spells like Lethal Scheme, Seize the Spotlight, and a bunch of new white card draw too (like Aerial Extortionist/Smugglers Share).

  • @zackfro
    @zackfro Жыл бұрын

    The reason we have so many S Tier cards is because cars draw is so powerful in a multiplayer 100 card singleton format. How nice is it when you have a full grip constantly?

  • @javiturkey314
    @javiturkey314 Жыл бұрын

    Elemental Bond also triggers when someone uses Generous Gift/Beast Within on one of your things

  • @robertbauerle5592
    @robertbauerle5592 Жыл бұрын

    Harmonize is good in wort. Gruul spellslinger. Tho, if they keep printing the "discard card, draw some cards make some treasures" cards, itll probably get power crept in that deck as well. They've already made 5 and like 3 of those were printed in the last few standard sets. Edit: You guys brought up wort right after the part where I paused the video to write this comment lol. I still think it's good in wort, it's a way to generate card advantage without needing wort in play. a lot of the discard to draw effects go even in card advantage.

  • @jaedesouza4589
    @jaedesouza4589 Жыл бұрын

    Honorable mentions runic arm… shapers sanctuary and viridian revel as well as compost

  • @Fausto_4841
    @Fausto_4841 Жыл бұрын

    I've got beast whisperer in a Miirym deck, I'm wondering if Elemental bond might be an upgrade in that deck. Whisperer is off type, and everyone wants to wipe my creatures. Am I wrong in thinking that it may be more robust and for 1 less mana?

  • @SWAT6809

    @SWAT6809

    Жыл бұрын

    no you're totally right if the majority of your creatures are 3+ power. if they are 4+ you can even play garruks uprising too, which cantrips on etb

  • @dripz-zx6im
    @dripz-zx6im Жыл бұрын

    I don’t typically comment, but I almost fell out of my seat when you poop teir’d read the bones. That card is awesome on any budget!

  • @MagiconTap
    @MagiconTap Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Esper Sentinel is insanely good... unless your opponents literally have (almost) no noncreature spells, which is what happened to me last night. I ended up just chump blocking with it. 🤦‍♀

  • @jamesgratz4771

    @jamesgratz4771

    Жыл бұрын

    Good. Serves you right for spamming a garbage overhyped staple

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    That can happen!

  • @famousstranger8468

    @famousstranger8468

    Жыл бұрын

    I had something similar but I used it in Black White party time and got it to a chunky 9/9 😅 nobody paid the 9

  • @MagiconTap

    @MagiconTap

    Жыл бұрын

    @@famousstranger8468 Haha I'm not *that* mean

  • @ben_clifford
    @ben_clifford Жыл бұрын

    18:18 I used to play Read the Bones in my non-buget Ghave deck, before watching this channel

  • @titanlord2000
    @titanlord2000 Жыл бұрын

    I think the read the bones and nights whisper effects are way better than given credit for. They aren't board dependant which is super important. Rishkars expertise and similar cards have a very very high ceiling but can be blown out by removal and are dead cards early game. Having consistant resources to me is better than having a few big dumb draw spells

  • @trehenry413
    @trehenry413 Жыл бұрын

    A big fan of Archmage Emeritus in Veyran. If i have Archmage + storm-kiln artist out, it can get out of hand quick.

  • @brentlewis7320
    @brentlewis7320 Жыл бұрын

    I only play read the bones in Vilis since it turns into scry 2 draw 4. But sign in blood and nights whisper are first on the priority list

  • @JaimeAGB-pt4xl
    @JaimeAGB-pt4xl Жыл бұрын

    Very nice list ... As a request... maybe a tutorial video 9n how to use the Ss of S tier... Moxfield... would be a good idea 👍🏻

  • @METROIDFAN258
    @METROIDFAN258 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with most of this list, but Great Henge being a tier above Sylvan Library is super sus 🤔

  • @themojowire
    @themojowire Жыл бұрын

    Just want to chime in like others, seems a bit too hard on Harmonize and Read the Bones. I always feel underwhelmed when I slot them in a deck, but then when I play with them I tend to be pretty happy they're there. Even if I am running much more powerful draw.

  • @nzephier
    @nzephier Жыл бұрын

    You forgot amber is card draw. When she walks all over the table, and spills drinks and cards, you'll have cards on the field you didn't have before, boom, card draw :D

  • @NitpickingNerds

    @NitpickingNerds

    Жыл бұрын

    She wiped my board the other day when she laid down on everything I controlled!

  • @treygregory5360
    @treygregory53607 ай бұрын

    How is mystic remora S when cumulative upkeep gets expensive after like 3-4 turns

  • @Calico365
    @Calico365 Жыл бұрын

    Omg Read the Bones is awesome While it doesn't beat Night's Whisper for rate, when you put both of those scries to the bottom, it feels insanely good. The new 4 mana instant one is a bit overkill, but you do see up to 4 cards for 3 mana with Read the Bones :)

  • @tvrtkojarnjak5603
    @tvrtkojarnjak5603 Жыл бұрын

    interesting takes on pure card draw (harmonize, read the bones). i feel sometimes you just need card draw at decent rate. these two are like veggies - id put them in low C or D…poop tier seems harsh

  • @jarrodalbers6127
    @jarrodalbers6127 Жыл бұрын

    Throw regal force into B tier with shamanic revelation. Caveat mono green decks

  • @DoodleHats
    @DoodleHats Жыл бұрын

    I play read the bones in mono black combos decks because it digs for tutors. Black doesn’t have a ton of early game card draw

  • @lysander3262

    @lysander3262

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a few Phyrexian Rager effects that can also apply pressure or chump. But, by far the best way to see a lot of cards for cheap is to DREDGE my man. Then drop a big Yawg Will and chain some rituals. Cheers

  • @Tiniere
    @Tiniere Жыл бұрын

    Huh I didn't.know this one wasn't in the NN library already, cool!

  • @natebardwell
    @natebardwell Жыл бұрын

    I've consistently gotten incredible value out of rhystic study. Either I'm creating advantage by adding cost, or I'm creating advantage with cards. It pays off better than esper sentinel from my experience.

  • @elil7945
    @elil7945 Жыл бұрын

    I think that skullclamp should be A their and not s because it is extremely powerful, but when you look at S tier all of the card up there (besides great henge imo) are staples that can be thrown into almost any deck they’re allowed to be in whereas skull clamp require a little bit of set up

  • @fosterdawson7339

    @fosterdawson7339

    Жыл бұрын

    Skullclamp I still think you could throw into most decks simply bc it’s a bit of boardwipe protection in that you still draw, and you usually have 1 toughness guys that you could sac if needed. The cheapness for its effect is really strong. I do think it’s like somewhere in between A and S so I’d give it A+/S-

  • @christianklarich7428
    @christianklarich7428 Жыл бұрын

    Do you think I should use necropotance in my Yuriko deck?

  • @scottarchey4952
    @scottarchey4952 Жыл бұрын

    I run 3 to 5 of the enchantment cards in what decks can use them

  • @lucablight2990
    @lucablight2990 Жыл бұрын

    I actually do play elemental bond. Not for budget reasons, but cards like guardian project dont draw of tokens. Titania makes a lot of 5/3 elementals which all draw cards with the elemental bond.

  • @frankmagyar4212
    @frankmagyar4212 Жыл бұрын

    That sweet SL art on Mystic Remora tho.

  • @vds92
    @vds92 Жыл бұрын

    Midnight Reaper and Grim Haruspex are good in creature heavy decks and/ or aristocrats decks, I think we can agree on that. I don't think they are as good as Read the Bones in decks that are not creature heavy. I play Read the Bones in my Orzhov Punisher deck (highly optimized, 8/10) with Liesa as my commander and it never feels bad when I draw it or cast it and man, in this deck, the card hurts even more than it usually would, but the scry 2 and the fact that the card is usable at any moment of the game and doesn't depend on me sacrificing or opponents boardwiping is the reason why I'm running it and why other people love it so much. I really encourage you guys to try it out more.

  • @forloveofthepage2361
    @forloveofthepage2361 Жыл бұрын

    Elemental bond is a creature entering the battlefield, not being played or cast. Makes it way better then a D. Also it survives board wipes and will rarely be the target of enchantment removal. I am a green player and the bond does so much work in a green deck. If you go into 3 colors it starts to fall off since other colors don't hit the 3 power often enough. Rystic Study goes in enchantment decks and Zur the Enchanter, but otherwise is just busted.

  • @sandman2953
    @sandman2953 Жыл бұрын

    Hot take: elemental bond vs beast whisperer. Bond may be better! Bond is one less mana Bond is harder to remove as enchantment and not hit with board wipes Bond draws on etb not cast- I think that’s huge- all the below are draws for bond and not for beast Tap your godsire Get a generous gift or a beast within Crack your ancient idol for the big creature

  • @supernova86

    @supernova86

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, this was a big swing-anda-miss for them

  • @BM-rd4ms
    @BM-rd4ms Жыл бұрын

    I play read the bones in theme decks like worth boggart auntie. It feels goblinesque. Or a black inclusive theros deck.

  • @dreadgray78
    @dreadgray78 Жыл бұрын

    What about kindred discovery!? Card can be bonkers in tribal decks or even cards that consistently generate a single type of token. Have drawn 30+ cards with it in my Ranar deck (it's not spirit tribal, he just makes a lot of spirits), same with Curiousity Crafter!

  • @lysander3262

    @lysander3262

    Жыл бұрын

    B for Build Around. Nothing worse than dropping it on an empty board and then it just gets blown up a couple turns later. However if you have a board and drop it, you still need to attack. Whereas a Shamanic Revelation effect doesn't require the attack. Still, the ceiling is so high that it's probably worth the floor, and can be better than Coastal Piracy effects since you don't need to do damage. Pretty nuts in UB or UBW Zombies

  • @vauk5081
    @vauk5081 Жыл бұрын

    I just built a $1.4k Braids, Arisen Nightmare deck, it has Read the Bones. It's a good card.

  • @winniebowser4447
    @winniebowser4447 Жыл бұрын

    You two should make a video on your most fun cards/pet cards :)

  • @vroomzoom4206
    @vroomzoom4206 Жыл бұрын

    6:31 beast whisperer only draws on cast elemental bond is an etb trigger, you can draw way more cards from elemental bond than beast whisperer.

  • @trehenry413

    @trehenry413

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah i feel the same about Garruk's Uprising. Being able to trigger off tokens is too good to overlook. Run Uprising in Kyler. Uprising + Adeline is pretty ridiculous since the tokens she makes will almost be 4 power when they enter. Trample is also such a nice added bonus, but it would still be good without it.

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