Appreciate the video, I know these are a lot of work and they help us fotogs at home make buying decisions. That said, it would've been nice if you had expounded on *why* would you'd choose the R5 over the R3, esp. since most of the video you were praising the R3 more than the R5. Personally, having used the EOS R for a year prior, I can say that the large files are a big deal to me. I thought it would be overkill but it really just gives you that much or latitude for retouching.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Because it’s just what I want and like and prefer. Sometimes the tech doesn’t have to be the leading cause of camera decision making. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@SnakrGarage

Жыл бұрын

​@@VanessaJoy Vannesa, but you could confuse someone that is on the market deciding between both. I know sometimes our choice is based on what we like beyond what we really need. Personally, I own two 1DX MKII and I was actively looking to get a 1DX MarkIII. Love the 1D series (Have almost all of them 😊) but then I watched your video. I asked myself if the R3 is the latest flagship in the Canon Professional series, and why the R5 was chosen over the R3. Anyway, price is a huge difference, if not, the R3 would be always the right election.

@patricksmith2553

Жыл бұрын

Like she said, it's just NOT for her, she's a "one-shot girl!" This is NOT a 1 shot camera, so it makes sense she loves the AF, and the ergonomics but at the end of the day...if you're a 1-shot photographer...you don't need 30fps. Me, even at a wedding, I'm a burst or multi-shot kinda guy. Why? I can shoot at lower ISO values because I have great technique and 4.5-5 stops of VR/IS. Just like with wildlife or "birds in flight," where you may need the 30fps, and having more options from a burst can help you capture that perfect pose or look on your subject's face. If I take 3 quick images at 14fps on my D6's, I almost always get a keeper. I get my sharp safety shots at faster shutter speeds, but then I quickly drop it to as low as I can stay still or my subject can stay still. My camera's only have continuous AF, or AF-C only and I can quickly swap between single point, Custom Group's or Auto. Surprisingly the eye-AF through the viewfinder is quite good on the Nikon D6. I believe it is the only DSLR with eye-AF, and I've used it many times. It always finds the eye, the closest eye and that is helpful for when I photograph people up close. Anyways I would always error on the side of taking too many images than not enough, so no need to make a joke. You're only kidding yourself, and maybe that's why you're at 1/320th of a second and ISO 640 instead of 1/60th at base ISO. If you were in burst mode or "Recall shooting mode" in burst, you can fire off three quick images at a slower shutter speed, knowing you'll almost always get a sharp image out of the three. I get how important timing can be, but don't discount the benefits of burst shooting. I would have a prayer and spray and pray than have a single noisy or blurry image, if an image at all. But guess that's just me?

@ricardomejia

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps I can help. I own both the R5 and the R3. I mostly shoot swimsuit, fashion, and glamor along with the occasional wedding, and before going mirrorless I was shooting the 5D Mark IV with my older 5D Mark III as a backup. The R5 was first, it was the successor to the 5D Mark IV and has delivered. The 45Mpix sensor and the eye-tracking autofocus had me sold. I also shoot airshows and recently got into shooting bird in flight (BIF), and it was with these activities that I decided the R5 was not the best solution and bought the R3. I had been lusting after the R3 for some time because it was the big dog, but the 24Mpix sensor gave me pause. After just under 2 months of ownership I can say that the R3 is the correct tool for airshows and BIF. The R5 can shoot 20fps with the electronic shutter, but it is prone to visible rolling shutter effects. The last airshow I shot with the R5 I used the 1st curtain electronic/mechanical shutter at 12fps to avoid this. The R3 can shoot 30fps with the electronic shutter with no rolling shutter effect. As Vanessa noted, the R3 has better focusing including the eye-control, better low light capabilities, and other advanced features because it is the current top-of-the-line, but when it comes to shooting swim, fashion, glamour, and weddings you don't need 30fps and you want the cropping capabilities that the R5's 45Mpix sensor gives you. For me if your bread and butter is people photography: portraits, fashion, weddings, etc., the R5 is your best choice.

@patricksmith2553

Жыл бұрын

@@ricardomejia Agree 100% and we’ll said by the way! The Canon R3 is in my opinion the best flagship of all three big brands. I’ve used the Z9 and R3, but I’ve never wanted to use or try the Sony. I know everyone loves it, but I hate the ergonomics and weird setup, even the lens release button is on the wrong side. Anyways long story short the R3 has the best EVF of the three (A1, R3, Z9) and it has the best autofocus, although all three are excellent. I still think the R3 feels the best ergonomically and it has the best features that I think of in a flagship. If you have really sharp glass, like I do, and you don’t make very large prints often, I think you’ll prefer the R3 files over the R5. Since I am a photojournalist…24mp is the sweet spot, but would I like 30mp? Yes! I think 32-33mp is the real sweet spot for the majority of people/photographers! But the 21mp and 24mp flagships have the best high ISO performance available! If you’re able to pair the R3 with fast glass…you have a big advantage over someone with an R5 and say 100-500mm might have. If you’re blessed to own fast glass and super-tele’s, you can really take advantage of the AF and high ISO abilities! I would say there is at least a 1.5 stops advantage, if not more than that between the R5 and R3 at high ISO values. Plus the R3 files seem to be better straight out of camera, the images just seem to need less adjustments if any. The HEIF/RAW files are great and this speeds up the process of getting images out quickly. However if you don’t already own or have budgeted for great glass, maybe a used R5 and lenses would be a better option. If you can afford the R3 though and you can benefit from its advantages…it’s a no brainer! Only thing I can’t stand is the card situation. Definitely wish it had two CFexpress Type B slots. I do not like SD! Old crappy technology that has been surpassed long ago. I love the Sony Tough cards and I trust them, so thank God they make both SD and CFEXPRESS.

The R3 is a specific tool. It was designed for speed. It’s for pro sports photographers and photojournalists or wildlife shooters. To rapidly send jpegs to wire services in a small time frame necessitated the 24 megapixel sensor. The R5 is a Swiss Army knife. Certainly for portraits and landscapes it’s a standout, but it’s still versatile enough for wildlife and sports. A far as weddings go, I don’t think you can wrong with either camera body.

I have the R5 and LOVE it, if I were to choose one it would be the R5 also, you can't ignore that 45mp sensor and details and the ability to crop just gives it an advantage. I would definitely use the R3 as a second body to shoot with on weddings.

Thanks for the video. I was looking for something like this. I've been working with the R5 since it came out and absolutely love the quality. That 45mp sensor is killer and when I shrink down the images to 4000px on the long side for wedding clients and the images just pop. So happy with it. BTW If you want an accurate look at color Lightroom isn't the best tool. I just learned this recently myself. LR converts your camera's RAW files into DNG for editing which degrades the color fidelity. Try comparing your R5 raw files in LR vs Capture One and you'll be blown away at how much richer the Capture One images look. Anyway just sharing. I'm a new sub now.

I have BOTH of these amazing cameras, and am thinking of doing something….really crazy!!! Turning PRO with BOTH!! To shoot portraits, sports, landscaping, wildlife, travel….weddings, whatever you got!!! It is all a challenge to get out of your comfort zone, but Brian Tracy highly recommends it!!! Thank you for getting me there!!!

In the first greens pic with the lake in the background, there was much stronger backlighting from the sun that helped the greens look nicer. But still, amazing how different the AWB is between the 2 cameras.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Quite true.

For me it doesn't matter what camera you are using as long you shoot raw and have a good glass, also understand the exposure triangle and always think for a unique composition. Lastly an above average editing skills would help a lot.

Great video Vanessa! It has been difficult trying decide between an R3 and R5 for weddings. I normally shoot two 5D bodies, one with a wider lens and one with a longer lens, and I prefer not to switch lenses too much, What are your thoughts on an R3 with a longer lens throughout the day and switch to wider lens for reception open dancing, and an R5 with a wider lens throughout the day. Seems like it would be a good way to get the best use of both cameras. Thoughts?

Thank you so much ! detailed review with great picture as illustration which inspired me alot. I am a current owner of R5, I find it works perfectly however her highlight seems tended to be blown out if over exposed around 1/3 stop. Per your experience, do you find the same in R3 or sensor of R3 shows improvement in this area? Looking forward to hearing from you. thank you so much and wish you a joyful day. NoiSee

I shoot with the EOS R6 and if I had the choice of purchasing a second camera body I would get the EOS R3. I love the new tech that Canon has introduced into that camera. Now I must admit, I also do not shoot at the high burst rate that my current cameras are capable of. One shot at a time.

The r5 details along with its power/speed mix can’t be ignored it’s 1 of the best cameras in the last 10 years or so overall even with the it’s so called shortcomings and etc The r3 is nice but having those 45Mps too play with always come in handy At least for me details matter it’s also very good with high iso noise surprisingly and low light if u know ya settings and etc I’m glad I invested in 2 bodies and and am fully RF

@moealyasini2784

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree

@taurohnyt617

Жыл бұрын

which one would you use if you could only affort 1?

@BigAntTVMedia

Жыл бұрын

@@taurohnyt617 that’s not ya business

@taurohnyt617

Жыл бұрын

@@BigAntTVMedia ?? i was just asking which one you prefer?? because i am currently thinking od buying one and i can only afford 1

When you compare noise just reduce the 45mp R5 image to the same size as the R3 image and then look at the difference in noise. Noise usually virtually disappears.

@WOLFTICKVIDEOS

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaolin95 This is a more realistic, or real world style look at camera comparison video, in my opinion. If I wanted to watch a scientific comparison, there are channels that specialize in that. I really appreciate her style and I hope that she never tries to become a lab like environment, everything perfect, camera reviewer. But I do watch some of them as well.

@tonyesposito9602

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaolin95 I really don't think I would call Vanessa a Canon Explorer of Light somebody who lacks basic knowledge.

@ABullet520

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaolin95, is there a reason you are so close minded? Is there a reason you have such a high opinion of your own opinion? I made my comment because she didn't and the people who watch this might like to know that if you reduce the image size the noise is reduced and becomes very comparable. I was trying to be helpful, you seem to be a miserable human being just trying to spread your misery.

@mikewinburn

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaolin95 - .... go figure... she’s out there practicing her art skills and you're here commenting negatively on her skill....hahaha... how ironic is that... so silly

@dantecooper4705

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyesposito9602 And exactly who TF are you? A facebook photographer with 100 likes and 4 reviews? Punk

Hi Vanesa I enjoyed your video. Thank you so much for the review. I presently shoot with the R6 and love it. I want a second body, so I'm thinking of getting the R3. I a BIF, Sports, Fast Action, and Travel photographer. What do you think?

Thank you Vanessa for the amazing VID! Great comparison for both amazing cameras! 🤗

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thanks for you insights and taking the time to make this video...and of course sharing your knowledge and sense of humor. I am debating between the R3 and R5 both have features I want...and think that need. The answer might lay ahead on the R1, but the will cost me. I have been a 1D camera body type for over a decade, so ergonomics and the battery life.(..and weather seals) do heavily bias my rationalization. Thanks once again

Thanks Vanessa. Your videos are always great. I always learn something. This video presents a lot of food for thought.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thx for watching!

awesome video! can you please let me know what camera was used to record this video? thanks

the amoint of photos you compared is to me something I havent seen you do too often with this amount of photos. I really appreciate how thorough you went into these photos as comparisions. Love your alter ego LOL was not expecting it...what about a R6 VS R3 battle for the WB , sensor size in those low light scenes, and how much dynamic range you have??

Such a great review/comparison! Refreshing to see your method of comparing based on your work. Thank you!

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

The AWB difference was pretty noticeable. I've noticed using my R5 in sunlight that it does have a tendency to not be consistent. Canon really needs a firmware update for that. For me, the R3 should really excel at action shooting. That is my bread and butter in volume marching band / color guard shooting where I deliver images straight from the camera. The R5 does a pretty good job at that but I have noticed about a 20% reduction of output volume from using my 1DX Mark II. (I am not burst shooting.) The R5 can sometimes lock on the wrong person occasionally or it can sometimes lock on the bell (black hole) in an instrument such as a trumpet or trombone and I have to fiddle composing or the autofocus to get the shot. I am usually dealing with kids having on a hat too. I had planned to get an R3 on preorder but the delivery date will be the week after I finish my season and producing over 50,000 images so I'll order it next year so I can move the business expense. Anyway, thanks for the review. If you're curious where I shoot images, here is a video of the main events I shoot. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nY2qyKdrqcfAo8o.html

Great video and thanks for the insight Vanessa. Any thoughts on which body’s AF system better performs for capturing rapidly moving, wiggling and running young children?!?!

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

Haha prob the R3 but they are VERY similar. I’d you’re looking to photograph kids, and I haven’t tested this, I wonder if the R7 or R10 would be a better fit

Thanks Vanessa. Awesome video and insights into the cameras.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi, I love the video and have 3 questions: 1) I am a hobbyist photographer and learn a lot every day. One of the things recommended more often than not in a lot of instructional videos is to NOT use Auto White Balance and use a specific one all the time (i.e. Daylight) so that results are more predictable and WB can always be changes in the post later. Yet you do use Auto WB in this video. Can you elaborate on why? 2) Image comparison @ 9:57 (couple holding hands in front of the lake). I may have missed you saying that but which one is R3? I would say green looks much more natural in the one on the right so I assume image on the right is R3? 3) Are these images @9:57 taken one right after another? It seems from looking at the shadows in the image on the left that lighting changed - no shadows on the image on the right, as if sun is behind the cloud on this one.

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

1- I used to say that too and always dial in my kelvins. These cameras have gotten so good it’s just not necessary for me to do anymore. 2 & 3- see pinned comment ☺️ aka I suck

Another great video! You don’t just give the raw facts, but you inject some personality/character as well. I’m a hobbyist who’s still rocking a 60D so these cameras are a bit outside my range, but it’s always great to get info about the high end stuff too. Hoping for an updated version of the R or RP to finally make the jump…

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

So happy U like ☺️

Thanks for this wonderful comparison

Not surprised at all - most seasoned pros have gotten along just fine with far worse focus technology than what the R5 and R3 both offer. The glass is the same between the two (RF mount), and for Vanessa’s and most other event pros’ use cases, high frame rates and blackout-free tracking and AF don’t apply, so it comes down to the sensor and what quality of files that can be produced. The 45mp in post gives so much flexibility, and the sensor is good enough compared to the advancements of the R3 BSI sensor that you can rightly choose just the R5 if you only had one choice. I plan to wield both so that I use the R3 as my A cam when things are happening quickly or in low light (e.g dance and theater performances), and the R5 as my A cam for everything else. I view the R3 as the go-to when you have to absolutely, positively ensure that you will nail the shot at passable quality, which carries on the tradition of the 1dx line.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

You literally described exactly how I’m going to work my weddings with these two cameras

@filibertkraxner305

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly why I preordered the R3 (dance performance shoots specifically).

@hanksdave67

2 жыл бұрын

I currently shoot Dance and Theater performances with the 5DM4 with ISO of 2500 or higher and I have to crank up the Noise Reduction in Lightroom which softens the image considerably. Would love to see some high ISO shots from the R3 or R5.

@mxilplict

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanksdave67 I went from the 5d4 to the R6 (and added the R5 after that) shooting theater dance and performance and it was like night and day how much better results I got - the combination of upgraded ISO performance, eye AF focus/tracking and frame rate boosted my keeper rate from 40-60% to > 85%, which is absolutely amazing for the dark and remote situations I often end up shooting from. It’s a complete flip going from looking for any keepers to having too many good ones to choose from. R5 and R6 both let me shoot more in anticipation of movements and let the frame rate and tracking setup a series of sharp keepers so I can always nail the peak of a grand jete or a side aerial, versus waiting and praying for the 5d4 to achieve focus lock and land a frame on target

Very helpful, I’m finding my raw files from the R5 more flat and white balance a little off in comparison to the 5diii and iv. Love your work !

@jsavak99

2 жыл бұрын

So then the image quality of R5 is overrated?

Totally surprised me you chose the R5 as with auto white balance, skin tones and low light performance being more to your liking I really thought you would chose the R3. Excellent lol

I love my R5. I have been shooting since the 1970s and the R5's 12fps mechanical and 20fps electronic was the stuff of magic pixie dust and fantasy just 20 years ago. It is plenty fast enough for weddings and portraits, overkill in fact. The R3 is truly a masterful camera and targeted more at the pure sports and other extreme speed genre. I would expect to see amazing sports photos coming out of the recent olympics and future events now that the R3 is on the scene. I am happy to hear you liked the eye-control AF. That may be a feature that works its way down to future versions of the the R5 and R6. I agree with you about touch and drag focus, that is a must have :)

@chrise4835

Жыл бұрын

I would have thought the larger pixels on the R3 would be more useful for wedding photography but there you go.

I thought you punked us at the end Vanessa by picking the R5. I was convinced that given the superior auto white balance and the addition of eye-controlled autofocus on the R3, that it would have been the R3. Also throwing in lower noise at higher ISO's to boot for the R3. Seems like the perfect blend of elements for a wedding shooter which I am also. Interesting and completely unexpected choice.

You are incredible. I learn so much from your videos. You are super clear and easy to understand. Thank you! I'm one of those that is ready to explore mirrorless.

I use the R5 for about 1 year now, I like this camera even I hope Canon will update the firmware for more "photography" features. One big issue I found is that Canon and LR do not work good together, unless you use a "middle" software to fix colors and noise. Using a 3rd part software and add some "color matching" tone, the R5 images are pretty good and having the 45 Mp with the 1.6 crop it helps a lot in some wildlife shooting. Saying that, I would love if there could be an option to use the eye focus feature in the R5

@Peyre

2 жыл бұрын

Which "middle" software would you recommend, if I might ask?

@michelebelotti2022

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peyre I bought different software, but as right now I use primarily those 2 (together with Lightroom): DXO PureRaw (when images have a little noise, this software is good to remove them, but it works only with RAW files, if you have already JPG, I suggest Denoise AI) and then I bought Color Fidelity plugin for Lightroom and PS to have better and more accurate color. I do not sponsor any software, just telling my workflow, it might change in future if I see some other software with improvements

I have the R5 and ordered the R3. I shoot mostly surfing and sports so I Have long glass. The 45MP is great but I think the R3 may be better suited for what I do. Not really sure. I do not use the electronic shutter due to the rolling shutter issues.

@oahuforjustice

Жыл бұрын

What’s your favorite lens to use to shoot surfing?

Hello Vanessa, I’m enjoying your KZread videos regarding Canon cameras and lenses I’m a beginner and looking to purchase a Canon camera Merlis my question is about the lenses prime lenses I watched your video on the 50 mm which she said was a great lens . Today I watched another video where the guy was using an 85 mm cannon RF lens and said it was very very good. Could you share your thoughts on the two lenses thank you. Steve

Nice shots, especially the portraits. Im one of those odd photographers who owns both Canon (RP) and Sony (a7R3). These are two different cameras aimed at two different kinds of photographers. Im still waiting for Canon's version of the Sony A1, which is a combination of both these cameras. I just hope if it does come out, its not going to be $8k, which knowing Canon, it probably will be. Id take the R5 over the R3 too for weddings and portraits. Ive rented it and its great, but my a7R3 was only $1400 lightly used, so I'll be keeping that for awhile.

Wow, i have the R5 and did not expect this decision. I think in low light the R3 is better, but i love to have the Megapixels for my Customers that they can print the photos in large that i took for them.

@vanessa so, uh... where do i get the t-shirt you're wearing at around 5:50? the one with the flowers and the city in the background? 👀

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Madewell ☺️

@ 10:00 when you're comparing the white balance between the two cameras saying there's a big difference. Most of it looks to be because of direct sun light in one of the images. It's clear as day because of the shadows hitting the Groom. Sorry to say but that's a bit misleading. The sun being covered by shadows will definitely change the overall color balance. At least when comparing those two images.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

You’re totally right. Though it’s not misleading, at least not intentionally, I honestly just didn’t notice the sun was out in one and not the other.

@AllgoodthingsTv

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy Very cool that you admitted to this 👍🏽 I noticed the difference in lighting as well.

Okay, okay, okay. Someone in my past once said to me, "if you love me you'll change from Sony to Canon to be with me". Wait.....what? That's like changing how you worship God one way to worship him another. Honestly, I'm at the edge of cliff looking over. All because I have immersed myself in your video tips and reviews. Now I'm seriously considering trading in my Sony A9 (along with my Nikon 810, lenses, and my car) to get the Canon R3 and one lens. I know you went with the R5 (which is the better choice realistically), but this was a very convincing review. Mostly because it is based in what really matters to all photographers in the end. Shutter speed, ISO, and white balance. With this notorious equation does it take great pictures. Lastly, the cameo appearance of Toxic Joy was a nice touch. I know.........I'm

Ms Joy, I have the R5, R6 and my trusty 1DXii. I shoot weddings with the Rs and use my 1DXii for personal leisure. Thanks for your great expertise.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Hi Venessa! Always enjoy your videos and I'm not even a wedding/portrait photographer. I enjoy landscape, wildlife and sports. Just bought the R5 a couple weeks ago and all I can say is it's pretty damn amazing! I haven't found anything it doesn't do well. Peace!

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

It's an incredible camera - enJoy it!

love you videos so much fun to watch - :) defo a fan

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate you!

HA! the "troll" cameo is perfection!

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha that troll is going to start coming out a lot more

Hi Vanessa, I have two Canon 5D Mark III's, I'm thinking of replacing one of them by a second hand 1 DX II or 5 D Mark IV or a brand new Canon Eos R6. I photograph mainly landscapes, long exposures, buildings, macro (flowers and mushrooms) but also the odd concert, wedding, dogshow or portrait (actually nearly everything apart from sports). What camera would you recommend me ?

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

You’d like the r6 or r5. I’m thinking the latter better

@wanneske1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy Thanks, but 4500 € is a bit over the top.

@dantecooper4705

2 жыл бұрын

@@wanneske1969 Lol then just get the R6 sounds like you’ve made your decision. Pricing is almost the most important factor in buying our gear.

I love my R5 and R6 combo. I use both when hiking, I use the R5 for wildlife, and I use the R6 for lenses that aren't super sharp. If I didn't shoot wildlife I'd probably have two R6s, though.

This was the comparison video between the R3 and R5 I was waiting for. Another awesome video. Thanks.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Yayyyy

Vanessa I have a question my name is Kellie ose,I shoot portrait photography mostly family photos and boudoir which camera would you suggest .I use a rf50mm f1.2 lens .I’m not sure which R body I would need to do the job I don’t do video

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

You’ll like this video: Canon R3 vs R5 vs R6 vs R7 vs R10 vs R vs RP Mirrorless Camera Review kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWibwbVpYs6XltY.html

R3 has me wondering what the R1 is going to have in store for us. I am just a hobbyist at this point, and just upgraded my 5D3 to an R6. Even that is such a high performer I am blown away (most of my shots right now are youth sports). The R3 is another level up, and the R1....maybe it will even tie my shoes!

@cornchips007

2 жыл бұрын

Insane huh. I'm hobbyist as well and got the 5d4 because of price. I think in 4 years I'd love to upgrade to the r3 when its 2nd hand price comes down. Such insane performance in focus speed.

@thetogtube2

Жыл бұрын

the R1 will be 50m pixels and the best of both worlds.... but it will be 2 years until you can get your hands on one and it will be $10k....

Do you think there is a good chance of mis-focusing on the R3 if something unexpected draws your eye away from the intended focus point. Ball entering a scene..etc etc. thanks

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

When you lock focus on your subject by pressing the shutter halfway down your eye can move around and it won’t change the focus subject

@ianb282

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy whew, would definitely prevent me from getting in trouble when I accidentally focus on something else and I have the focus point recorded..especially when I take events ;) thanks!

Hy :) the video ist perfect 👍🏻 my question is what is the name of the leather shoulder strap? Great regards from Vienna :)

What camera you ised for this video?

I would expect the R3 to handle higher ISO better in regards to noise given it has nearly half the pixels and those pixels are much bigger. But quite the surprise how much better auto WB was with the R3. Now, can the eye control focus work for those of us with glasses?

"WROOOONG!" :) :) :) R5 shooter here. Love it. Considering R3 for low light performance, build quality, and who wouldn't want to have the "gold" combination. Thanks for the video. More nuggets to consider. I was intrigued by the subtle colors picked up in the R3.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Right?? It’s the little things sometimes

Hi thanks for the video. Wondering which camera is used to shoot this video?

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

I believe a Panasonic for this one

@reneeshakara

Жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy it looks lovely! Thank you

Aloha from Hawaii...what is the name of the camera strap that you were using at the very end of this video?

Enjoyed the video. I had to really look at which one you chose.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thx for watching

Out of that entire video, my favourite part was the disheveled hair at the end hahaha. I noticed the reason your first comparison shots with the R3 and why it was overexposed was that the R3 was shot at F1.2 and the R5 was F2 (at least according to specs on the screen) So maybe thats why it changed. Though, F1.2 with 1/500 and F2 with 1/250 is essentially the same. So, it shouldn't be that big of a deal in the end. Great video, as always Vanessa!

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Hehe glad U liked

I have retouched images from both bodies. Ill be brutally honest, the R3 is missing something. The resolution is not up to par. In fact, its quite soft. The R5 still remains crisp and full of detail. Bare in mind, these were contemporary portrait. For speed, The R3 has the edge. For quality, stick with the R5 until Canon updates the R3. The eyes tracking focus is cool, qirky, but cool. If your into tech for the coolness, and the PFS, go R3. If your determined to obtain the best image quality available from a Canon body, go R5

@cooloox

2 жыл бұрын

How does the highlight and shadow recovery compare between these 2 cameras? That was one thing I could not ascertain from this video? I'm surprised what you're saying about sharpness as most of the R3 images in this video were sharper than the R5 images. It surprised me because I expected the R5 to look sharper with all of those extra MP resolving finer details better.

@rolandrickphotography

Жыл бұрын

@@cooloox ​ I’m with you and I must confess, I’m one of those guys never understood the megapixel hype. Specially if it comes to wedding photography, the R3 with its stacked BSI sensor gives you the ability to shoot noiseless electronic shutter totally free of rolling shutter. The noiselessness (is that an existing word?) of the R3 outperforms everything else in the full frame segment, that’s not only my opinion, also DxOmark‘s one. I am a total freaked nerd if it comes to gear, I compared and used all major brands myself, including Nikon’s D6 and Z9, the R3 is light years ahead. Three complaints generally concerning Canon, 1. there are no details in the CR3’s shadows compared to Nikon’s NEF, Fuji’s RAF and Leica’s DNG (Leica’s RAW format is Adobe’s DNG), 2. Canon has no lossless compressed RAW files, 3. even being the predestined camera for it because of the stacked BSI sensor, the R3 has still no firmware upgrade bringing RAW burst mode/Pre shooting to the R3 like the R7 and the new R6 Mark II has it (red menu number 6). All that models using the DIGIC X processor, so I can’t understand why the only camera truly can make an advantage of Pre shooting, the R3 with the stacked sensor, has that not updated yet.

@rolandrickphotography

Жыл бұрын

@@cooloox PS, it is also a misconception to compare the megapixel directly and linear. 45 / 24 = 1.875, that looks like you get 87.5% more real estate. But that’s wrong, because it’s a linear (one dimensional) comparison like so. The sensor is an area, that’s 2 dimensional. For that, you must divide by the square root of 2, 1.875/sqrt(2) = 1.3258…, that means, you only get 32.6% more real estate between a 24 and a 45 megapixel sensor, that’s no issue if it comes to print, it will be compensated by anti aliasing of all printers. Regarding the filesize you are stuck to the linear factor, what is a huge trade off, cRAW is no option, because it’s not lossless compressed. If some newbies read this, that’s the reason where the weird aperture numbers come from, you must do exactly the opposite. Changing shutter speed or ISO by 1 stop, what is doubling or halving the current value is linear thing. Changing the aperture affects an area, what is 2 dimensional, so you must transform it from 2nd to 1st dimension by multiplying with the square root of 2, that’s 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22 etc. are all rounded multiplications by the sqrt(2) = 1.4142135624…, if it comes to the squares of the square root, the values are of course exact (2, 4, 8, 16, 32,…) because sqr(sqrt(2)) = 2. Got it? 😄

@ESKATEUK

Жыл бұрын

They’re simply made for completely different things. The R5 is more suited to portraiture work, the R3 is far more suited to sport. However other than resolving detail, the R5 is worse in almost every way.

really insightful!! could not have watched a better hands on comparison! I wish you would tell us a bit more why you made that choice what really swayed your balance? but I do recognize that both models are so similar in most ways and the differences are very subtle or did I understand wrong?

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

they are very similar, but I decided on the R5 because it's a better tool for the way I like using it (i.e. the 1.6 crop I use so much)

@dantecooper4705

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy That’s an answer I’ve been looking for!!!! I’ve been using the R since it was released. I use the 1.6 crop a lot myself when I need a little more reach. That’s why I’m thinking I’m grabbing the R5 and the 70-200 2.8 then waiting on the R1 and having 2 MP monsters!!!!

I have the R5 and the 1dxM2, the 1 dx I take for the evening at the party and the R5 for everything else I think that's a good solution. What I really have to say, personally, I find the handling of the 1 DXm2 far better than that of the R5, the setting wheels are too sharp-edged and too tight for me.

Do you happen to know how that eye autofocus would work with back button focus?

Just the video I wanted! Thanks!. I shoot a lot of corporate events in low light with many faces (miniature weddings). I now shoot with R5 now and am thinking of getting the R3 for events. Couple of things: I actually like the lower meg count of the R3 (when you're going through thousands of photos). I'm really liking the eye control to pick the right face from the crowd. I just bought the 28-70 2.0 which is heavy, do you think the R3 with that lens AND a flash on top of that would be ridiculously heavy? Would love to see a video about handling characteristics of these setups.

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

It’s not the lightest combo but it’s worth it!

Thank you for the review of two great cameras.

Do you use the same preset for all of your wedding photos or choose to taste?

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Usually my joyfully simple preset :)

The "ma, the meatloaf!" comment at the end did me in. Thank you for the review. I am a 5d IV user and looking to upgrade. Trying to do my homework on the mirrorless, the R5 mostly.

I have the R5 - I don't make a dime from photography - so the R3 is nice and it "May" make the wildlife pictures a tiny fraction of a percent better.t I have zero complaints about the R5 and spending double on just a new body when I can buy 2 new lenses. This means I get 2 new lenses and I stay extremely happy with the R5

Great comparison video! The R3’s eye control autofocus feature sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie. It’s so freaking cool! Currently I’m running with two R6 cameras and a C70, heavily considering the R3 since I have been doing mostly video and I know it’ll pair well with C70 as a B-Cam.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

haha it absolutely is!

@JOMprodBeta

2 жыл бұрын

im running the same set up...i think so as well...will prolly get the r3 in Januarry to b cam my c70

It's a Prue "Joy" to watch Ur videos. Ur voice is so comforting. You R a great teacher. I have learned so much from U. Thank U for all U knowledge U share.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Aw yay thx ☺️

Vanessa, It is great to get an opinion from a true professional. Really appreciate your help, and I really enjoy your work.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words. :-)

For what you do yeah R5 but I expect sport shooters wanna R3. I do wildlife so R5 but wish the R3 had the R5 pixel pitch then clearly R3 is amazing guess Canon wants the big pixel count in the R1. I think your comparisons re colours are more gut feeling, need a more repeatable identical lighting/composition to be able to do that properly. The jewelry photos! you need to make sure they are clean polished and have some direct light/colourful extra light to get at least a sparkle they looked dirty and dull. Lucky lady would love a combo like that...

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

I think with wildlife you would probably like the r3

Big thanks ❤️

Very fun review. I am using a 1DX MarkII and will be upgrading to the R3. I shoot a lot of sports, seniors and families. Glad I found you, I am now a subscriber.

@FotografieJan

2 жыл бұрын

Für Senioren ist die R3 auch echt gut geeignet die rennen aber auch immer wie wild durch die Gegend ;-) HAHAHAHA

Using R6 to photograph wildlife. Love how fast and lightweight it is, and the way it performs in low light almost completely silent. The only thing I miss is to being able to crop pictures more carelessly. It seems that especially with birds you always have little too litlle reach no matter how big lens you're having. So annoying. At some point I'm planning to buy another mirrorless camera, just wondering if it should be R5 or wait for the release to R1 to see how it turns out.

Still Cannon 5D Mark III. Been waiting to make the jump. Almost went with 5 when first came out, but decided to wait. I'm an action photographer (birds/horses,etc) and travel, and lowlight landscape (Sunsets) and people in low light .Although more money than I expected to spend, the R3 looks like best for my situation.Then with the telephoto100-500; looks like more hamburger in my future instead of steak. Loved your video. Easy to follow. Will look forward to more in the future. I agree with comment below; surprised you chose R5.

Have you asked Photographers who have to wear glasses if the R3 Eyeball focus works if you have Eye-glasses next to the viewfinder?

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and so far I’ve had good reports

I'm a 1Dx Mark II shooter, thinking of going to the Mirrorless R3. My hesitation, is I own all EF L glass. How is the performance with the Canon adapter for RF to EF? Obviously native glass is the best, but is the adapter a deal breaker? Is the performance of the adapter, similar to EF on DSLR? Any comments f the adapter performance with EF glass would be appreciated.Thanks! Loved you video review. You have a nice voice.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

The adapter is FLAWLESS

@Paddlerboy1965

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy thanks for your feedback! My 1DX ii is up for sale!

Hi so I presently shoot with a 6d Mark II after seeing your great video on the R6 and now the R5 vs R3 I feel like the R6 is not enough, I photograph my kids doing sports ( 6.5 FPS is fine on the mark II but ...) and general portraits and do some events I feel like the R5 has a balance and some familiarity to the 6 D Mark II but it's just so much better in versatility and the newest technology. Would welcome your thoughts, Thank you for your time

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

The r5 and r6 will both feel familiar, and like an upgrade, to you coming from the 6dii ☺️

@ralphholmes6387

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy Thank you for your reply! What brand of handheld " Bounce Shield" do you use, if I may? Your results are outstanding 👍

Excellent thanks

I want to see what Killjoy finalize writing! Thanks for the video, have been waiting for review of the R3 for a long time ( I look every day je,je je). I want to upgrade from a canon 90D and since I opened a small studio I need a full sensor. I do studio shooting but I need a camera that could be good in low light due to my other type of shooting which is sports indoors with bad lighting. My question to you should I upgrade to R6 which has the same SD cards as the 90D or since I am going to invest , go for the R5 get all the cards and stuff and then wait for the R3 when it finally comes out , that 30fps is soooo tempting for sports. Vanessa great fan of yours from Puerto Rico, besides you playing with my feelings when you caught me with the R3 megapixel video specs. Je je je je. Keep up the good work. Success in your business.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Ooooo idk lol. I’d prob say r5 first??

R3 is fantastic, love it for video work too. Shooting with it until canon releases the R1 but can say that I do wish it had a bit higher resolution. It’s a no brainer if you are doing sports or event photography, for most other things the R5 may serve you better.

@therookiefisherman5234

Жыл бұрын

In your opinion, do you believe that for sports the R5 is not capable?

Curious, why hold the camera so awkwardly in portrait orientation when you got battery grip on both? Do you not like the ergonomics of the grips?

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Camera strap’s tripod mount gets in the way

@maxvain

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy ok understood 👍🏽

If R3 had 40-45 megapixels it would be perfect and I would buy it for wildlife photography. I need to crop and nowadays 24 mp are not enough. R5 is a fantastic camera, but no stacked sensor.

@michaelbell75

2 жыл бұрын

It would also be about $8k 😃

@SuomiFinland78

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbell75 Nikon set a new range or price for flagships. If the new R1 will cost 7-8k €, well, it will be a big mistake by Canon.

@dantecooper4705

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuomiFinland78 I think they will price it with the A1 at $6500

@gustav9914

2 жыл бұрын

I still shoot with Canon 1div 16mp, no issues ;)

@set3777

Жыл бұрын

@@SuomiFinland78 Nikon recently closed their factory in Japan and moved production to Thailand in order to compete with Sony made in China/Thailand. Canon is 100% made in Japan Do photographers like to be paid 3rd world wages for their services since they prefer cheaper Cameras built with cheaper third world labor?

Joy to you Vanessa, really nice sense of humor you got there :) However, Im moving from 1 dx2, shooting both stills and video. Using Sony for high MP stills ...BUT Sony's white balance is terrible in my opinion (video mode) and auto-iso function is kind of slow. Saying that, I was wondering if that's something Canon R3 is good at...maybe if you could take some low light footage then walk into brightly lit scene with auto iso on? Maybe,hm? Thanks for the videos, you have a new subscriber.

For weddings it just makes sense the R5 has 45mp and the R3 has 24mp. For group photos more megapixels are useful as are photos with heavy cropping. R5 is a lot less cost than R3 also. The more versatile because of MP is the R5. R5 could be lighter if you take off battery pack. R3 has its strengths in video and low light, but the R5 is more than capable for most shots or video at 4K or HD (although the new R5C to come out soon will have a better cooling fan built in).

Ah, the 135mm, possibly the best value lens on the planet right now, so much goodness! But I digress... The R3 looks fab and I bet the eye control is fantastic, the R5 is a no brainer for me, though, with great cropability, 1.6x mode is still a respectable and very usable 17MP and, as much as I love the vertical grip, I like that you can have or have not, the grip at will, for tripod work, very handy. The wedding shot [20.35-20.38] looks like sun in/sun out? Wax on wax off... Just you focus, Daniel son! ;) I'll see myself out!

Thank You Vanessa!

Good, informative and funny video. I would agree with your conclusion. Brilliant though the R3 may be, especially eye AF, for your work, resolution is of greater importance. As ever, love your humour.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

haha so glad you do :-)

@dantecooper4705

2 жыл бұрын

Oh she’s gonna be wielding both! That was just if she had to pick one she would go with just the R5! But, this beautiful lady will be shooting with both and that’s still great that she gave us her honest opinion for those that can only afford to buy one or the other.

I shoot mainly landscapes and I have the R5. I was wondering if you think the color differences may come from the fact that there actually isn't a legit R5 camera profile yet in Adobe Lightroom & Camera RAW? You ran the R3 photos through the Canon software to produce a DNG first. I had been using only Adobe for my R5 processing, I had this amazing moment happen during a sunrise this summer. I felt Adobe wasn't doing it any justice, ran it through Canon Software & DXO PureRAW and the colors were so much more vibrant and beautiful than I could get from strictly Adobe software. Adobe also doesn't allow you to get the amount of dynamic range you should, it's almost a worlds different comparing the files that come out of these other softwares with the actual camera profiles in them when you compare them side by side. Adobe leaves alot out of these R5 files (color, contrast, dynamic range, etc.) and I can't wait for them to actually get the profiles added.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

That could absolutely be part of the difference

If the R3 had 45 (or more) MP and the touchscreen focus point, would you choose it then? I don't see why Canon just didn't put the latter in there with an option to turn it on and off...

@dantecooper4705

2 жыл бұрын

I bet it comes back with a firmware update they are just testing the market

I figured you would pick the R5. It is just too good. I got the R3 for better hybrid shooting since it has better 4k, probably better low light,less noise for video, and unlimited recording. i dont mind 24mp for weddings. The R5 is killing my harddrives

@AugmentedGravity

Жыл бұрын

Better 4k? What?

I'm more impressed that the Canon 135mm F/2 a 37 year old lens is still top in it's class even with using the latest camera technology.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

I’m obsessed with that lens

@jhenry248

2 жыл бұрын

@@VanessaJoy do you think Canon will make the RF version of the 135mm f/2? I'm holding out on getting the EF mount for my R.

@TheVFXbyArt

2 жыл бұрын

…. Although at night it flares more with headlights. But my ef135 is a keeper!

@photophilsteingard8374

2 жыл бұрын

@@jhenry248 I did hear Canon will bring in a RF135 1.4 That would be an amazing lens!!!

@jhenry248

2 жыл бұрын

@@photophilsteingard8374 hopefully it will not be at a amazing high price 😂 thanks for the info.

nice job Vanessa, you did the right choice, my opinion. The difference of the details shows that you have much more possibilities to crop when you was not able to get the right/best frame during the shooting itself. I would also choose the R5 if I would have the choice. brgds Patrik

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Thx for watching ☺️

@patrikhennebold4463

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome. Thx for all your work for other photographer. Have a nice day 😊

I always enjoy your videos - they are a combination of great info and dynamic presentation with not a small amount of fun in there too. I can see why Canon made you a spokesperson! I am not a wedding photographer: I do landscape and wildlife, so my parameters are different. That said, I am hugely impressed with the R3 and can see it has massive value for its market space. I still shoot with DSLRs as well as MILCs: the 5DIV and 5DsR, but I use the R5 and R6 combo right now, and until Canon releases a MILC replacement for the 7DII, I will hold there. Over here, in NZ, the body of the R3 is over $10,000NZ, so one has to have very specific intentions for such an investment.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks so much ❤️

Great review

I really do like how the R3 makes the subje the skin tone look compared to the R5. Interestesting indeed. Thanks for the video by way, its hard to decide on cameras without having them

Which camera and lens have been used here to make this video? Fantastic sharpness !

@VanessaJoy

Жыл бұрын

I think it was another Canon R5 or the Canon R

I mostly shoot wildlife, and the R5's 45mp is much needed for cropping when I can 't get close enough. The FPS of the R3 would be great, but at 20fps electronic on the R5, that's good for me.

For photographers only r5 Forsure. For the heavy hybrids the r3 checks every box. That 12bit internal raw with af up to 60p is too nice. I have both the a1 and the 1dxiii and the 50mp count for photos is definitely nice but if you frame correctly it’s not necessary. When it comes to video, I HATE having to lug around the ninja v just to get raw video. The ability to switch on the spot at the flick of a switch is huge. Never have to miss a moment.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

love your thoughts

I like the form factor of the R5, but the R3 has the eye auto focus, and better AWB. Do you think the R5 will get a firmware upgrade that will match the R3 features? The R3 just seams to render colors better but its bulkier then the R5. I'd love to hear your point of view.

@VanessaJoy

2 жыл бұрын

I actually like the form factor of the r3 better. Feels sturdy in my hands and balances better with the heavier lenses that I have

I just wanted to update you..I could not hold off any longer & am now a proud owner of an R3... I still have my two R5s also but I have now added the R3... I am however still eagerly awaiting the R1 release..