Get stoked for this next week of videos! On Monday, I have an "Ultimate MacBook Showdown" in between the 13" MacBook Pro, 13" MacBook Air, and 12" MacBook. Which one is best for you? Find out soon. Then, get excited for Mac mini benchmarking (hackintosh comparison perhaps 😏) and my thoughts on iPad Pro! Thanks for your continued support. You are all hyper SNAZZY!

@woodroemitchell2848

5 жыл бұрын

yeahhhh, stay snazzy everyone.

@mintgardener

5 жыл бұрын

could you do a tutorial on how to make a Hackintosh?

@rcredred88888

5 жыл бұрын

Snazzy Labs hi, have you find coil whine on new Mac mini ssd?

@patrickmonkman8151

5 жыл бұрын

Hackintoshhhhh

@andljoy

5 жыл бұрын

I remember when macs where black and white and ordered CPUs from Acron :P

We all forgetting that Snazzy predicted the Pro Display...

@PasnThrou

4 жыл бұрын

So did every tech guy who looked in that mini's booklet.

@chowandrew2458

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not the pro display The stand is iMac like and FREE😂

@jpotter124

4 жыл бұрын

Chow Andrew yo that’s true😂

@sriramsundar8388

3 жыл бұрын

@@jpotter124 Or is that, the artwork of the upcoming Apple silicon iMac? The display also looks like a 16:10 aspect ratio display.

@jpotter124

3 жыл бұрын

V. Sriram Sundar i think it could be, they love to hide Easter eggs in the instruction manuals and on the website, but I hope they make the display larger and hopefully without giant bezels

Me: I wish I had a snazzy labs video to watch Five minutes later this video comes out

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

Ask and ye shall receive!

@jedwardoo

5 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@IOwnThisHandle

5 жыл бұрын

What a fucking suck up.

@TechXtreme1

5 жыл бұрын

@@snazzy Thanks for using Hiberno-English!

1:52 Watching it after WWDC. It does look like an Apple XDR Pro Display 😜

@prashantmehta2478

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Also ready to pay 1,000... for a monitor stand!

@prashantmehta2478

5 жыл бұрын

meliohe Ok fine. How about Minecraft Earth? Seriously it looks great

@swagchief98

5 жыл бұрын

@@meliohe5080 geez, who pissed in your cereal?

@brandon_nope

5 жыл бұрын

@@swagchief98 It's already justified

@janehoyken

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the foot looks quite different. More like a standard iMac foot

The speaker is for saying "BONG!" on bootup

@Charlesb88

4 жыл бұрын

Casper S� That’s just what I was going to say. The speaker is for startup sound and alert/system sounds for anyone not hooking up their Mini to external speakers. I have a 1st Gen. PPC Mac Mini 2005 and a 1st gen. Intel-based Mac Mini from 2006, both which have a single mono speaker with awful sound but which was likely include partly so you had a means of hearing the boot up and system alert sounds.

@sebolio

4 жыл бұрын

but macs don't have an startup sound anymore, do they?

@Charlesb88

4 жыл бұрын

Sebolio there are still system sounds/alerts you’d need a speaker for even if the current Mac Mini no longer has a startup sound. Besides, I think many buyers of this system would expect at least some sort of built-in speaker even if it’s just a crappy one. All other Macs outside of the Mac Pro have one and PC desktop tower systems generally include external speakers, if one is not built-in. The Mac Mini being a BYODKM system (bring your own display, keyboard, and mouse), it makes sense to have even a crappy speaker built-in with users wanting/needing better sound can bring their own speakers too.

@maxismusikstudio5268

4 жыл бұрын

Charles Bunnell You Chan bring the Startup Sound back with a command.

Well done. I like the amount of detail you share in the video.

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Aaron!

@decafjava8565

5 жыл бұрын

Oh wow two of my favourite tech reviewers!!!

This is what happens when you are a Mac and PC guy. You tinker with what isn’t supposed to be tinkered with. Love it!

@Eian_Anderson

5 жыл бұрын

Who says its not supposed to be tinkered with?

@bokismokitoki

5 жыл бұрын

Northfold Incorrect. Apple warranty says you can upgrade it and it will still be under warranty unless you break something major on it

@Eian_Anderson

5 жыл бұрын

Just cause apple said so means i shouldn't?

@markhaus

5 жыл бұрын

Very little about its construction seems to suggest they want people to do anything but fill landfills with them and buy a new one when you need more RAM or storage.

@dwarf365

5 жыл бұрын

T2 chip makes sure the RAM is the only thing that you can do with it. Bye bye Linux.

Can we take a moment on admiring how beautiful the internal components are? Those grill holes that forms a circle around the Wi-Fi antenna is art. Also that snail shell fan in the middle

Started watching this channel couple of weeks ago but just realised this is the same channel I used to love to watch AGES ago and then he went to Bolivia and was gone for a while. Amazing that you're still at it Quinn. Keep up the amazing work dude!!

I figured Apple would make it extremely difficult to replace the RAM, given it would be less than half the price to upgrade to the max RAM by doing it yourself compared with upgrading at the Apple online checkout.

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

You'll definitely save money if you plan on upgrading beyond 16GB of RAM. So long as you're willing to open the computer up!

@mrwriter86

5 жыл бұрын

Snazzy Labs I heard it was about £400-600 saving on the top 🐏 (

@farhanjamli3676

5 жыл бұрын

I was expecting them to do cuz it's their nature Some fan boy might say it's to cool the ram even to its just 4gb modules only each

@emilygrae

5 жыл бұрын

It might be difficult for some people, but you'd need to be pretty inept for this upgrade to be referred to as extremely difficult. Pain in the butt, sure, takes less than 60 seconds to change out ram in my 2012 mini, but this looks like it's merely time consuming to anybody that knows how to properly use a screwdriver, and not difficult.

@mastrorj68

5 жыл бұрын

I've taken Mac minis apart to replace hard drives and RAM this actually does seem a little bit easier until I realized oh there's no hard drive replacement there's no need to go any further so yeah this is not terribly hard but very inconvenient All Things Considered

That's why the ram cage is there. Because the rubber ram "clips" could just fall off... Yesh? Maybe? Anyway, great video as always. Thanks

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

RAM clips aren't rubber. RAM is held in with standard metal clips but covered in rubber which is there for the sole purpose of helping the heatshield/faraday cage/whatever-the-heck-it-is stay in place.

@anchorbait6662

5 жыл бұрын

@@snazzy haha ahh ok, gotcha. :)

@ErikWooldridge

5 жыл бұрын

I looks like shielding, but I'm not sure why they'd feel the need to include it.

@Traclfeen

5 жыл бұрын

DDR4 Ram gets hot like anything else, It more than likely some type of heat Shielding, especially due to part of the heat sync being directly under the RAM

@evwatch

5 жыл бұрын

Probably aesthetics ? Cause the whole logic board and all the hardware is mainly black and silver ?

That metal cage that sits above the RAM acts as a Faraday cage to prevent interference.

Nice teardown video of the Mac Mini! Appreciate the time you took explaining AND demonstrating how you remove the different components to access them.

My disappointment is that the Mac Mini’s didn’t come with the Intel “Skull Canyon” CPU’s that had Vega GPU’s. The would have been better than the on board GPU and that speaker.

@wangkevin3431

5 жыл бұрын

I think you meant apus;p

@OskarBravo

5 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for this too!

@wangkevin3431

5 жыл бұрын

@@TopolinoPipulino oh thanks for the info. I though they were caused they just seemed like what Intel did back in the day by gluing 2 single cores together and calling it a dual core :p

@loonieDMighty

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, the Intel CPU AMD GPU combo is codenamed Kabylake G and is used in the "HADES Canyon" NUC.

@BrawndoQC

5 жыл бұрын

The speaker is probably there for convenience, not as a permanent solution. When setting the thing up. Blind people use Mac as well.

Louis Rossmann liked this video 3000 times.

@RafaelHEscobar

5 жыл бұрын

Lol! That's the first name that came to my mind when the lad from the video started to disassemble the computer.

@stopdropandgame9506

5 жыл бұрын

No

@chasethomas5491

4 жыл бұрын

I have never seen Louis do a video on the Mac Mini.

I know I am never gonna buy a Mac but I still watched this video till the end. Your videos are so satisfying. Keep it up, bro!

Thanks for showing the teardown. I was planning to rip it apart myself and after watching your vid, I'm much more confident that I can with no issues.

It looked like a very professional tear down. Unplugging of components were shown very clearly. Thank you for your efforts. Could you please also run a read and write speed test of the new SSD in mac mini ?

@theSUBVERSIVE

5 жыл бұрын

it should be on par with the MacBooks, so pretty fast SSD. Just extremely pricey to upgrade.

I watch a lot of tear down videos, and you're camera shots/clips/editing are superb! Another sub for you!

@thesuperstar4470

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Weber but it’s dark

Still have a G4 mini - was an amazing machine for it’s time!

Good grief, check out those views. Thanks for making such interesting videos Quinn - always informative but fun too 👍 Keep up the good work dude 👊

To us tech enthusiasts, a video like this one is like a really good thriller movie 😎.

@TheSwaroopB

5 жыл бұрын

Emotional and thriller, I'd say! 😁

@conorallen100

5 жыл бұрын

What kind of cringe is this

@goku445

5 жыл бұрын

Douchebag.

@skipad4306

5 жыл бұрын

yeeeee

@kkmingming

5 жыл бұрын

I would say it's a Victoria Secret's show

I was waiting for that. But I’m too poor to afford it with eGPU. I can build the same Hackintosh for almost half a price.

Dude. This is the first video of yours that I've watched - you make tear down look SO easy! Amazingly simple .SUBSCRIBED.

I missed his videos when he left, glad you’re back!!

*Apple puts Apple Cores in their Computers*

@farhanjamli3676

5 жыл бұрын

_Bob McCoy “Think Different”

@terrry9709

5 жыл бұрын

honestly probably would be better than intel sleeping

@Dave102693

5 жыл бұрын

A-series Apple Cortex chipsets?

@JoeyLindsay

5 жыл бұрын

Then apple will prevent hackintosh by using proprietary CPUs...

If I may ask the following questions: - How much RAM can you add? 16, 32, 64 GB? - What RAM exactly? Max frequency? Model? Much appreciated.

Thank you so much for this video.!The cost of upgrading the RAM was insane. Glad I can replace it way cheaper.

I love it when you do these kinds of mac building/disassembly videos, so cool!

*Please build a hackmini that is cheaper and has better performance.*

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

Coming the first week of December!

@Malc180s

5 жыл бұрын

It's impossible. The mac mini is a bargain, and all the computer 99% of families will ever need.

@TixiaoShan

5 жыл бұрын

@@snazzy Looking forward to that!!!!!!!!!

@gfjfjufidi2880

5 жыл бұрын

Malc180s 99% of families do nothing but Facebook lol. You can do that on a 2012 netbook.

@CheapBastard1988

5 жыл бұрын

@@gfjfjufidi2880 My 2014 netbook has a touchscreen other than some expensive laptops. It can also read and delete error codes in the ECU of my car.

That RAM cover is made like a faraday cage. The frequencies of the ram, the processor, USB, and wireless are all in the same (or an integer multiple of) frequency range. You’ll get induction noise...like when a cell phone about to ring would cause static in nearby speakers. The first metal grill you removed after prying off the base severs the same purpose...note how the antenna was placed on the outside surface of it...keeps it free of internal electrical noise. Without that ram cage Apple would have had to use ECC memory to keep it stable for even more $$$. The interference drops away quickly with a little distance but the mini is so small you can’t get them very far apart. The skull canyon nuc puts the WiFi module on the other face of a metal plate between it and the motherboard for the same reason.

@techbuildspcs

5 жыл бұрын

Tony Giannetti interesting

@harshrajjadhav940

5 жыл бұрын

We need more people like you.

@Tjuri10

5 жыл бұрын

Why does no other mini computer have that than? Like an Intel Nuc?

@orestogams

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like bullshit lmao

@andrew6978

5 жыл бұрын

What utter horseshit.

The Mac Mini was the only Mac I'd ever looked at to buy. I got to use one at my old work and I loved it, so I'm really happy about this.

Great video! The Mac mini looks pretty good on the inside.

@snazzy labs you are the only Apple/mac KZreadr I can watch. You have a very good view of what computers should be and know that Apple could do more for there users. keep up the good work!

@CheapBastard1988

5 жыл бұрын

I can recommend Peter Paul Chato. He's a funny character that really likes MacOS but isn't a blind fanboy and expresses his critcisms (so of course he does hackintoshing). His video's aren't as slick as the ones Snazzy makes but they are unique in their own way and quite entertaining.

@johnfrancisdoe1563

5 жыл бұрын

CheapBastard1988 Sadly some of us have to stay legal and buy Apple hardware whenever we want to run mac-only software

@awesomeferret

5 жыл бұрын

EverthingApplePro is pretty objective too, especially for an Apple-centered channel.

I think the speaker was originally there so they could chime and sound error beeps at boot. The old PowerMac towers even had one, they sounded equally as bad, but better than nothing I guess! This is nice, shame about non-replaceable storage, but otherwise it's definitely better than the 2014 ones. Great teardown!

@Errcyco

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s like a cmos battery.. just there for board d level diagnostics.

You have the best Mac teardowns hands down

I still have the Mac Mini PPC I bought in 2005. It still runs great. I gave it to my young son as his first computer and to give him his first exposure to Macs.

The T2 chip is designed to make you completely locked in and dependant on Apple.

@Slenderman63323

5 жыл бұрын

Not like you could really replace anything in there without some expensive equipment anyway.

@somethingsinlife5600

5 жыл бұрын

Epsilon It's meant to hold your data at ransom as well. Your data is encrypted whether you like it or not.

@mikeward1701

5 жыл бұрын

Some Things In Life Not true, the encryption and secure boot can be disabled, infect if you want to install Linux, you have to.

@somethingsinlife5600

5 жыл бұрын

mikeward1701 I don't think the next gen T2 chips are designed to allow you to do much of anything in the name of "Security". On the old chips it was possible. These new chips will be different. Just wait and see.

@cunnyman

5 жыл бұрын

The security really is good. They excrypt your data so it's significantly better than just having Facebook, Microsoft and Google spy on you 24/7.

Yes. I can remember when they were introduced. I still have it and it still runs.

The attention to detail to the inside of the computer is a pleasant view. Look at the color coordinated parts.

My 2 cents: I think the being RAM SO-DIMMS is done to make more efficient usage of the available space. The overall internal design doesn't seem to be made _to obstruct_ repairs, it seems to be designed in complete _disregard_ of it. The results for the average Joe are the same, but the intention is different. The cage around the RAM is probably there to shield against certain EM waves.

@ZeroQuotient

5 жыл бұрын

I'm in almost complete agreement with you on that. However, the only thing that doesn't make sense is why they bothered to put a round access hole, especially because before it was used to facilitate the twist-off design, which is no longer relevant. Plus since its the bottom of the machine, making it a square footprint would make accessibility and assembly so much easier.

@deepinmind83

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. The high frequency (2666MHz) RAM creates interference EM noise that can interfere with the other computer components. I’m sure it can also receive interference, so hence the grounded Faraday Cage around the RAM cards.

@monkeymind3067

5 жыл бұрын

But we are not caring this thing around it is gonna sit at desk

A beautiful looking circuit board but when the SSD dies it cannot be replaced. could that be classed as planned obsolescence ?.

@jojodroid31

5 жыл бұрын

@Sally Smith Totally depends on the SSD and on the usage. SSDs won't break from shock, but from too much written cycles.

@SilvaDreams

5 жыл бұрын

Apple is ALL about the planned obsolescence. Even back in the 90's when they soldered everything in the iMacs ....... Of course if you had a friend who knows how to use a soldering iron on boards, then upgrading it was't an issue. Luckily my friend had me to do upgrades instead of shelling out 400$ or more for more ram or hard drive space (or a new graphics card)

@retrogamer33

5 жыл бұрын

Yep that's CrApple for you.

@TalesOfWar

5 жыл бұрын

By the time the SSD dies on this (unless its a defective part) the rest of the machine will be completely useless anyway. SSD's last MUCH longer than spinning drives. You can also boot from external drives if you want to. Hell, you can boot from an SD card if you wanted to with a Mac. It'll be slow as dicks but it's trivial to do it.

@sparky191

5 жыл бұрын

@@TalesOfWar An external isn't going to be pretty. Its just dumb decision from a consumer pointn of view.

PS you did make stunning shots of this machine... Holy smokes all the soft panning and proper pro light setup! Great work Mister

I still have this thing, put 32 gig ram in it from the beginning and its still doing its job very good, im using it now....

Good teardown. I give double like

I learned from this video that I should buy the RAM upfront and enjoy my new mini out of the box. lol... Thanks for another great video.

@CryptoJackk

5 жыл бұрын

Sad but true :(

@PROmorcego

5 жыл бұрын

Our I can buy a good computer.

@Zyxlian

5 жыл бұрын

A kit of 32GB DDR4 SoDimm that is faster than the memory Apple offers (3200 MHz vs 2666 MHz), costs about $320. The upgrade that Apple offers is $600 for 32GB. For 64GB, you are able to find kits for about $800 - again, half the cost of their upgrade. I'm not really sure why anyone would want 64GB in a Mac Mini, but if you wanted anything more than 16GB Ram, I would definitely open it up and upgrade it myself. Plus, you can sell the 8GB set that comes with it as "Official Mac Mini RAM", and people on Ebay will eat it up.

@kael13

5 жыл бұрын

Really not that big of a job to replace it, as long as you have the tools.

Well, so far I’ve learned I need one of those iFixIt toolkits ! Glad to see RAM upgradable, sucks storage is not!

That speaker can be there for the startup sound, so you can hear that even without external sound gear

8:42 I was wondering like how did you do that magic sticky finger connector removal, ok it's reversed.

I think the main problem as with this and MacBooks is the soldered storage, sure it makes it more secure but SSD chips have a lifespan and will eventually fail. As you can't change the chips even if you have mad soldering skills (due to the t2 chip) the mac mini like MacBooks is now a limited life disposable item. I'm not sure if Apple even uses overprovisioning.

@johnfrancisdoe1563

5 жыл бұрын

brian whittle Also, you have to securely destroy the entire motherboard according to your used storage opsec procedures. Don't want the recycling guys or the genius bar reading your online banking security codes when you hand in the machine for a broken USB socket issue. With a removable SSD you can swap it out when handing the machine in for service or recycling.

@DogsBAwesome

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnfrancisdoe1563 The annoying thing is the Mac mini clearly has room for an m.2 ssd instead of the soldered storage. It's just a cash grab by apple like using propriety SSD's in the iMac.

@zeus1117

5 жыл бұрын

That is their strategy to keep the customers buying new products every 1-2 years !!

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

brian whittle m2 SSDs are slow as molasses compared to the T2 drives.

@TalesOfWar

5 жыл бұрын

By the time the chips in these things die the machine will be practically useless in terms of the rest of its specs any way, plus you can always boot from an external drive. It's pretty trivial with Macs, especially ones with Thunderbolt.

Worked on those mini units for Capital Computers. People really loved their Mac Minis big time back then.

When the first Mac Mini came out it blew my mind out of my skull. It really was such a cool small computer. I have the 2018 one because I work on apps and need to push to devices and I like it but it’s just lost something. I’m very glad that with some work I can upgrade the RAM at least

Apple was legitimately like "Oh yeah guys! You can technically upgrade the RAM again!" but of course...the SSD is soldered on. Way to go apple - way to go.

@philippdrflr

5 жыл бұрын

Came to hear this. So, basically the last well-priced, upgradable product (SSD) is now unusable as well unless you shove all your money up their a$$es! My old mac mini is the Apple device I still own/use. Had everything (PowerMac G5, MacBook Pro, several iPhones, Mac Mini, iPad) and Apple lost me. Every product has become mediocre to bad (except iPad Pro - so far) and ridiculously overpriced (especially, if you don't use the insulting low-spec base models). I feel betrayed by Tim Cook! It's so clear he only cares for one thing. And it's not the u$er. Can you gue$$?

@junits15

5 жыл бұрын

yeah I was about to say that, its great that the ram is upgradeable I guess, but its a bit pointless if the SSD is soldered on,

@pdjames1729

5 жыл бұрын

I can't watch the stage show. Corp-celebration makes me feel like puking. Woooh a fucking box... wow.

@HCkev

5 жыл бұрын

The motherboard is dead? Good bye, data!

@JasperJanssen

5 жыл бұрын

Well, yes, of course it is. Non-soldered SSDs are way slower. Even x4 nvme drives - which are pretty expensive - are nowhere near as fast as Apple’s T2 mediated SSDs. If you want to add slow SSD space, just put it on the USB3.1 gen 2/thunderbolt 3 ports.

I honestly really liked my second gen mac mini. Upgraded the CPU in it and packed it with as much ram as it could take. Sadly, it's no longer with us, especially after my mishap with liquid metal. (>.>) That original CPU that I pulled out is still in my desk drawer.

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

rip O.G. Mac mini. I loved mine. It was my first dedicated editing computer I upgraded to for my KZread videos back in 2009!

The overall build quality is just fantastic.

I do remember the unveiling of the Mac Mini and bought it shortly after. Have had much fun with those machines over the years. My 'main' desktop is still a Mini, the last updated version before this year. I look forward to checking out the newest Mini. It's no surprise that Apple makes it more and more difficult to repair our own machines, its the nature of the beast really. I've been working on their equipment (and everyone else's) since the 80s and at least appreciate no sharp metal edges! lol :)

they could have easily put an m.2 where that flash storage is... and 800 for 128gb on the base model is a complete joke.

@tdrewman

5 жыл бұрын

They don't want you upgrading, because everyone will buy the base model and go buy a cheap 1TB for $139 or a cheap 2TB for $329. Mac charges $300 more to go from 128 to 256..

@drewcarr7286

5 жыл бұрын

I really don't understand how you people have never heard of the T2 chip before. Jesus christ.

@somhrsh

5 жыл бұрын

Bruh there's t2 for that and that proprietary storage is through pcie lane that means it's as fast as m.2

@aidanjt

5 жыл бұрын

@@somhrsh But nowhere near as serviceable as an M.2 slot. Also, if your computer dies, M.2 means data can be recovered. It's actually amazing that a company can hate their user's data so much.

@tdrewman

5 жыл бұрын

@@aidanjt They want you to use the cloud.. The one that was hacked and took them months to tell the public.

Looking forward to a video of yours about building a HackMini, possibly retaining the same form factor... possible? 🤔

@retrox684

5 жыл бұрын

Stefano Bragaglia no. At least not with decedent power

@QuickQuips

5 жыл бұрын

There are sfx builds but honestly an Intel Nuc does most of this already. With the short versions you get the form factor yet you get upgradable m2 ssd and easy to upgrade ram. And I think it has Thunderbolt.

A sophisticated introduction! I give my subscription without hesitation!

Your video was very helpful in a decision that RAM can be upgraded in these Mac Mini's.. thank you

It's so weird they made the RAM upgrade hard even though they advertised the SO-DIMMs in the keynote.

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

That's good 'ol Apple!

@messitupmike8061

5 жыл бұрын

JetVeam I think they also made a certain comment that folks that were a certain extent of computer savvy would be able to do this themselves, the level is just higher then we all expected. Doable for sure, but most users won’t want to. The $200 upgrade isn’t so bad considering the ram itself is around $150 and the amount of work it would be to replace, not to mention buying the screw drivers if you don’t have it. Probably most worth it for folks looking to go 32 gigs and higher.

@sergeyrozenblat7849

5 жыл бұрын

You don't even need a special tool to pry board out. It's nowhere hard. Think about how to make thermals work better first, because thermals have to work 100% of the time. And think about RAM upgrade last because it's only 10 minutes once or twice in this computer lifetime.

@JohnChan

5 жыл бұрын

@@sergeyrozenblat7849 This. Long term structural integrity and performance is much more important than a casual modification.

I love my 2012 mac mini but after upgrading ram and running it 24/7 for 6 years as a media server and my personal desktop, i think its time to upgrade. for me its been a flawless machine.

@theshadowman1398

5 жыл бұрын

Same here, but I hate the fact that storage is soldered.

@carlosr5918.

5 жыл бұрын

The Shadow Man thats not really an issue for me. I kept all my media on an external anyway to keep the computer storage light. Best way to go I think

@runabout76

5 жыл бұрын

Same here! This is the upgrade I've been waiting for. I'll be going with the 6 core i7, leave the RAM at base, because I can upgrade it when I feel it necessary, and I'll bump it to 512GB SSD and keep going with my array of externals that are in use already.

@taylor6855

5 жыл бұрын

Carlos Ramirez is that 2012 mini still good enough for everyday use such as KZread? Emails? Some light video editing?(not 4K)

@carlosr5918.

5 жыл бұрын

@@taylor6855 it is. i watch all my tv shows and movies on it unless im in the living room and i run most of my business dealings off of it as well. I even have over 500 hours of rimworld gameplay using the mac mini solely.

I use and love the 2009 mac pro running el capitan, old OS I know but all I can get, I have another drive with a patched mojave, one thing I love is the upgrade ability. You press a switch in the back, open the panel and you have access to user servicable RAM, 4 drive slots, GPU, and the optical drive. With some digging you can open the cpu slots (dual cpu chips).

It’s crazy that you can take it apart just like the older model. I did this same thing to change the ssd years ago.

Wanna know a joke... ...upgrading a mac

@SketchTurnerZero

5 жыл бұрын

I really affraid that in the future more products will be like Apple. I mean, look, we have less and less products that we can upgrade, that we own. Even soft. Its goes to clouds, and we dont own it. We SUBSCRIBE to that soft. Creepy "1984" world.

@dannnnnny

5 жыл бұрын

Wanna hear another joke? Ok read the next line out loud JOKE Haha I’m so funny! 😏

@waverazor

5 жыл бұрын

Mac products are generally a joke

@linhuaien

5 жыл бұрын

go search mac pro 2009~2012 and you’ll know it’s not a joke

@leecason9468

5 жыл бұрын

@le Hoarderz Al-Shekelsteins who buys a surface? They're some of the worst windows laptops ironically. Dell XPS is easy to upgrade ram, wifi card, change battery, upgrade NvME drive, etc. Or build a PC and it's completely upgradeable. No windows fans talk up the surface but reviewers. Don't pull that shit here, no one claims that.

All well and good but ... that soldered on ssd ... nnnnope ...

what a great quality video. good work Quinn!

It's like Big Clive has gone all fancy. Some lovely camera work here.

But can you upgrade the ram without fearing that the t2 chip would block your computer?

@infernaldaedra

5 жыл бұрын

@Sally Smith Name one example if shady merchants that do this? There are none. By shady merchants you mean repair shops and refurbishers.

@infernaldaedra

5 жыл бұрын

My life would have been better if I never read that comment. Every sentence could be disregard as false. Processor companies have intellectual property that they will defend. Swapping a logic board is not done to be malicious. Let's say you have 2 laptops one has a cracked screen, dead battery or other issues. Let's say you have another perfectly good machine with just a bad MB you take the perfectly good board replace the bad one now instead of having to useless machines you have one perfectly good one. Also the "shadyness" described is a power management issue that is typically caused by low battery voltage hence why the issue went away when the MacBook is plugged in. If only there was a way to fix that without it being malicious and making it a counterfeit? If only there was something you could do besides throwing away a MacBook Pro that. Is perfectly fine except for the battery, one of the lowest cost parts in the machine. Or paying apple an exorbitant fee to install a battery. Also to this date their is no reason you should not be able to replace touch ID, or Camera sensors in a iPhone. the facial recognition and Touch images are stored in a chip on the logic board not in those components. Also regarding Intel in the 386 and 486 days the companies Cyrix and AMD both had liscences to produce X86 instruction based processors. They had a legal liscence to those designs and Marketed their processors and Compatible or Equivalent. Intel has an equally abismal track record of consumer friendliness when they fought hard to maintain full control of the market.

@DarthAwar

5 жыл бұрын

Yes the T2 basically guards the integrated CPU & GPU (Which it has a limited number of approved parts that it will allow not too dissimilar to Mac OS but each T2 is encoded for each device it goes into!) and any external connected device which it will scan for threats and drivers!

@DarthAwar

5 жыл бұрын

The RAM is not T2 protected just make sure when you buy RAM it says it works in MAC or at the very least uses the same connection type!

@monkeymind3067

5 жыл бұрын

Tim Cook : That is a good idea, people should buy ram from apple not third party

Quinn I know that power cable bit at 8:44 is a reverse clip of you putting it in. I'm on to you 👀

Thanks Snazzy Labs this video really helps.

The shield over the ram is an anti-static shield. Would assume during R&D they had some issues with ram going bad.

2:37 he’s a DJ!

"Any Apple fans remember when the Mac Mini was first introduced"? ...Pepperidge Farm remembers LoL. I do remember Quin, it was certain a different time. :-) BTW, love the Omega!

This is a pretty neat engineering from apple, kinda reminds me to the 90's LC's and beige Powerpc's were you snapped a couple of fasteners and slide the motherboard out, they should have this design cues not only in the mini but also in their whole lineup of products.

Great job!!! I plan on going from 8 to 32 eventually. Need those little torx drivers, though!!

The whole point of the Mac Mini was that it was affordable, but not anymore. Another marketing money grab by Apple led by Tim Cook.

@thedungeondelver

5 жыл бұрын

He's an Auburn alum, what do you expect? RTR

@CoWinkKeyDinkInc

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if you noticed, but Apple is trying to move the Mac Mini into being another professional platform for people who need more compactness than what can be found on the Mac Pro.

@HCkev

5 жыл бұрын

@Swift Boiz You can get something like a Gigabyte Brix and pop a M.2 NVMe SSD in.

@jonc4403

5 жыл бұрын

The first Intel Mac mini base model was $599 in 2006. That's $774.25 with inflation. So the current base model is only $25 more. I'm never happy when Apple pulls a money grab stunt (like the ridiculous price of SSD upgrades for this mini, or the insanity of soldering the SSD when a standard for NVMe sockets exists) but the base price of this mini ain't it.

@MD-eb6iu

5 жыл бұрын

It was launched when the average computer user still used desktops. Nowadays that market has gone to smartphones and cheap laptops. The real users of the Mac mini are now mainly the pro market. I bet at least 50% go straight to racks.

If I may, that metal Cage around the RAM is likely a heat sheild. The RAM sits directly on top of the CPU, so that metal helps to absorb and dissipate some of the radiant heat away from the RAM.

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

This seems the most likely explanation I've guessed so far. I'd hazard a guess you're probably right.

@johnfrancisdoe1563

5 жыл бұрын

Snazzy Labs Still looks more like an EMI shield to me. Remember those RAM signals are probably the fastest off-chip signals in the entire machine, frequency is so high there are official limits on how far from the CPU pins the sockets can be, measured along the wires, just to keep the travel delays at light speed low enough.

@JE-zl6uy

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnfrancisdoe1563 thats... not how RAM works... XD

@rif42

5 жыл бұрын

@Jordan Eilbert; no. The cage does not touch the RAM chips so they cannot dissipate RAM waste heat to the cage.

@era7928

5 жыл бұрын

@@rif42 It is a heat "shield". Not a heat spreader.

love the videos, are you going to do a thermal paste upgrade on the mini? would you recommend buying this or a used 2017 iMac?

Absolutely cool and detailed review! Thank you so much!

Anyone here after M1 Mac Mini?

@lalitsharma3137

Ай бұрын

I'm here right before the M4 Mac Mini🎉😊

The whole purpose of the RAM shield seems to be making it harder to replace RAM.

@uss_04

5 жыл бұрын

Allan Sh Looks to be RF shielding, that WiFi module seems to be really close.

@1stfloorguy59

5 жыл бұрын

@@uss_04 my lap top ram is pretty close to.

@Phoenix_of_Sun

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah sure is tough to unscrew those 4 tiny screws and slide the thing off.

@IanGacek

5 жыл бұрын

It's definitely to hold those rubber retention clips in, especially during shipping and moving the unit around.

@allansh828

5 жыл бұрын

PhoenixofSun maybe you don’t need to pull out the logic board if the shield isn’t there?

I still got a 2011 mac mini running great, maybe I upgrade to this in afew years when it is on sale

what an AWESOME video!!! Making it look easy, and also making it look hard at the same time.

Im actually still using the last 2014 version

@UserMum7512

5 жыл бұрын

How’s it holding up?

@makuikui

5 жыл бұрын

2009 here... early 2009

Do you think that that the Mac mini is worth it?? Would final cut run smoothly (or at all)?

@kael13

5 жыл бұрын

Add an external GPU and sure.

I immediately noticed that snazzy iMac display in the manual artwork. I had to get a slim bezeless monitor for mine

Snazzy simply predicted the Pro Display

Just upgraded my 2018 Mac Mini (i7 chip) to 32Gb, very happy. BUT a watchout when buying memory upgrade kits from Crucial Memory. Their website lists two sets of kits for the 2018 Mac Mini: one set of upgrades promise 2667 SODIMM (ie speed) the other 3200 SODIMM (and we all know faster is better!). The faster cards have a big red ** NEW ** label on them, and are 25% more expensive. So I bought one. I installed it and it works, but the Mac tells me my speed is 2667. I call Crucial sales support, who tell me that it is technically "compatible" with the Mac Mini but that not all motherboards support the higher speed. And they suggested I should know if my motherboard will support this card, despite it being listed as suitable for the 2018 Mac Mini as "Guaranteed" to work. They said they can't check every motherboard of every product. So I have a higher spec RAM kit that my 2018 Mac Mini can't take advantage of, and I've paid 25% more for the privelege. Thanks Crucial. So beware: Crucial listings for your computer do not mean that the product performance specs will be achieved on your computer.

@JohnSmith-yl9en

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for caring to pass on the info.

Great, so when the SSD eventually wears out, you will have to buy a whole new motherboard to replace it, by which time you will only be able to find used ones with similarly worn embedded SSDs....

@devotee

5 жыл бұрын

^- THIS That is the sole reason I wouldn't buy this Mac Mini. I don't understand why people don't get that when the soldered SSD dies (and it will die, don't fool yourselves), there's no way you're going to fix it. Well, at least Apple takes care to make it 100% recyclable... If they had used a replaceable SSD, I'd have seriously considered replacing my Late 2012 Mac Mini (it's fully upgraded with custom memory and two internal SSD drives). Now I'm considering building a Hackintosh with more power and for a fraction of the base model price (800€ here in UE), so I'm eagerly waiting for that video Snazzy promises of a Hackmini build! Maybe Apple will get it right next time. Who knows?

@kael13

5 жыл бұрын

@@devotee The modern SSD chips will last at least 10 years with normal use, easily.

@TheMasterOfSafari

5 жыл бұрын

Kael who are you kidding with that nonsense? Go check out any SSD.. ANY.. and tell me if you find one that lasts over 5 years for a CONSUMER one..

@snazzy

5 жыл бұрын

​@@TheMasterOfSafari To be fair, Apple's SSDs are incredible and I've never had one fail on me-even with heavy write/re-writes for video editing. I've been using their SSDs since 2011 across many computers.

@illsmackudown

5 жыл бұрын

@@devotee 💯

Kudos to you on this video, very in depth, hell, you make a better customer support than all of apple! thanks for this big time!!

That inside looks sooo nice!!

yay apple left the ram upgradable. but the storage is soldered to the board. : ( this is ridiculous.

@tf2koalafruit

5 жыл бұрын

just get external harddrive, they’re only 80 bucks on amazon

@bamdadkhan

5 жыл бұрын

@@tf2koalafruit you're missing my point. i'm talking about serviceability not upgradability.

@tf2koalafruit

5 жыл бұрын

oh... well then yeah. Apple just wants to suck up everyone’s money

@miloraddjurdjic1695

5 жыл бұрын

@@tf2koalafruit no external harddrive can match the speed of m.2 ssd (not sata)

@tf2koalafruit

5 жыл бұрын

yeah i understood it later on.

1:28 - Just gonna take a LITTLE GUESS here before I watch the rest of the video: Practically not at all? Edit: Bingo! Fucking soldered-on SSD, that's ridiculous in a desktop machine. They easily could've fit an M.2 drive in there. I can't believe they even offer a 128GB option either, it seems that 256GB is the new "minimum" for PCs. However, absolutely excellent video man! Great camera work, editing, and narration. It was enjoyable to watch.

@QuickQuips

5 жыл бұрын

No kidding. I can't believe a m2 ssd or even msata would be impossible to fit. And getting an external drive defeats the whole point of this compact device. Meanwhile I got a 8300 Elite and a cheap 256 Intel SSD for a hackintosh.

These insights are so beautiful! Nicely designed!

Great video. Very good narration and excellent visuals. Thanks for making this video.

I think the speaker is for errors, it may beep a certain times for different errors which involve hardware

@LoganDark4357

5 жыл бұрын

Nope, Macs don't do that. Macs either display a useless icon on the screen or shut off.

@gillsgills

5 жыл бұрын

Actually this is accurate, it's useful to have system sounds (like alert beeps, file drop sounds, etc.) output separately from monitor-grade speakers, eg. when doing audio production & recording, metering, etc.

@LoganDark4357

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@jcistudios6183

5 жыл бұрын

In the old Mac mini it was used for the startup sound.

1:38 Turns out yes it was the new Apple Pro Display.

@akewl

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Button well well well look who predicted the future eh?

Outstanding video. Really informative and engaging.

Very nice video.. i actually got a macmini 2012 for about 200EU.. for now will go with that.. but the info here are very good .. thanks