Can you control no input mixers via CV?!

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Hello everybody and welcome!
This video is a bit different from the previous ones because it's not a tutorial.
I tried to use cv signals to control the feedback into a no input mixer. Then I created a small "ensemble" of three no input mixers that interacts with three different sequencers sending them cv signals and running all together to create an improvised track.
I hope you'll enjoy it!
Warning: I'm not expert in electronics so I don't know for sure if this operation is ok for your mixer. I haven't noticed any negative consequence on my mixers at the moment, so I guess it's safe, but don't try this on your devices if you don't feel like doing it. And if you know how circuits works I appreciate every suggestion and help!
If you have any question or suggestion feel free to write in the comments!
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  • @tonytooke76
    @tonytooke76 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful work, you’ve turned Lou Reed’s Metal Machine Music into a symphony. Inspiring sound.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @simongoderis691
    @simongoderis691 Жыл бұрын

    The more I watch your video's the more I really love your work, and the more mixers I want to buy. Nice job!

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Much appreciated!

  • @hyperactivists9390
    @hyperactivists9390 Жыл бұрын

    very satisfying outcome!!

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you appreciate it!

  • @withoutcompression19
    @withoutcompression19 Жыл бұрын

    Very enjoyable & a great philosophy on sharing knowledge.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Super important for me too!

  • @rotwire8994
    @rotwire8994 Жыл бұрын

    Cheers Andreij been looking forward to this vid all week

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Oohh thanks! Hope you like it!

  • @belabreuer150
    @belabreuer150 Жыл бұрын

    Keep it up dude, you stuff is amazing

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Happy you liked it!

  • @flourfree2K
    @flourfree2K Жыл бұрын

    I hope that the museum you're going to visit is... not obsolete!

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    no spoiler ;)

  • @flourfree2K

    @flourfree2K

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev I did not. But, for me, there's one museum only... 😀

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    @williamwallace2K oh you didn't! I meant that I won't do any spoiler eheheh. And maybe you will be surprised ;)

  • @flourfree2K

    @flourfree2K

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev ... once again. 😀

  • @flourfree2K
    @flourfree2K Жыл бұрын

    You never stop surprising me (in a positive way)!

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @flourfree2K

    @flourfree2K

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev Thank YOU for sharing!

  • @Brumata
    @Brumata Жыл бұрын

    This and then MPP Harsh Noise pt.1 premiere?!?!? Sunday, Funday! 🥳

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's go! This one is a perfect waiting room for the Magpie Pirates collab!

  • @nanocyde_artist
    @nanocyde_artist Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff here. Control voltage applied to an audio signal will introduce DC offset, which can cause some interesting effects, but since the circuits in your mixer and interface appear to be AC-coupled, the sound quickly slides back to the original as it 'adjusts' to the offset introduced by your sequencer's pitch CV. Some audio interfaces are DC-coupled and actually allow you to send and receive control voltages accurately.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh nice! I'm basically new to this, thanks for sharing these infos!

  • @AmbroseCadwell

    @AmbroseCadwell

    Ай бұрын

    I wonder if this would work with the same mixer - amount of difference between the steps controlling interruptions, rhythm control rather than pitch control. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZaEtZqvkdy-ltI.htmlsi=MkKtxZeBdCjjarSh

  • @mrzekopeko
    @mrzekopeko10 ай бұрын

    8:30 dude that is banging

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you like it!

  • @MrJemoederopeenstokj
    @MrJemoederopeenstokj Жыл бұрын

    Sweet

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Tasty!

  • @elmeromero3836
    @elmeromero38369 ай бұрын

    You can also ping a Mixer very well this way , i use an Behringer mx 2642 its the best synth i have ever buyed.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    9 ай бұрын

  • @neaituppi7306
    @neaituppi7306 Жыл бұрын

    I like that shirt, it looks sort of like a older Chinese style.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Definetely in that style

  • @JSprayaEntertainment
    @JSprayaEntertainment8 ай бұрын

    very nice dude... i. make feedback loops. Also

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Feedback for everyone ;-)

  • @verttihietaniemi7412
    @verttihietaniemi7412Ай бұрын

    I'm not much into modular synths but have some CV sources, and I'm wondering how much electricity (voltage, current and whatnot) is CV compared to the audio signal that is going through mixer? Very inspirational stuff!

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Ай бұрын

    From what I understood about this topic in the previous months (speaking with people with more knowledge than me and reading comments around the internet): it is a difference between AC current and DC current. Audio signal is AC and CV is DC. Mixers are of course built to handle audio signals, so when you put a CV signal into a mixer circuit it just interfere with the audio feedback, (if the CV signal is strong it cuts out the audio one, if it is weak it just change it a little bit) then the circuit goes back to its normal state and goes back to the audio feedback.

  • @verttihietaniemi7412

    @verttihietaniemi7412

    Ай бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev Oh that makes sense!

  • @flourfree2K
    @flourfree2K Жыл бұрын

    Now, what you could try. If your filter accepts CV: Since the filter can self oscillate (resonance set above 70%), you can CV modulate the cutoff (FREQ). I often use this technique in order to get a sine wave... without a VCO! I call it the NO-VCO technique. If your filter does not have a CV input (maybe it's hackable?!), but has multiple inputs (there's typically a mini-mixer at the input): You can add the BeatStep Pro CV to the incoming signal from the mixer. WARNING: NEVER USE A MULTIPLE OR A SPLITTER TO COMBINE SIGNALS - YOU CAN FRY ONE OF THE CONNECTED DEVICES OUTPUT SECTION! ALWAYS USE A MIXER - EVEN A PASSIVE ONE.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, the filter that I use has cv inputs both for gate and for the cutoff, so it can basically be used as a playable oscillator. For example in all of the tracks of my last album "Destroy Everything, Destroy Everyone" the kick drum and the bassline are produced at the same time with the filter controlled via cv.

  • @flourfree2K

    @flourfree2K

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev Which is more or less how I simulate drums on my synth, currently. I'm planning to build some percussive module in the future, though. Since I can't afford the cheap, analog and very complete Delptronics LDB2. The shipping costs + taxes from the USA are PROHIBITIVE.

  • @Solodchuk
    @Solodchuk Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

  • @AndreaArturoGiuseppeGrossi
    @AndreaArturoGiuseppeGrossi Жыл бұрын

    Hello there and friendly greetings! Unfortunaterly I have not found another less intrusive way to contact you so here you will enjoy my textwall! 😆 So, I have put my hands on a second hand (meh...) mixer and tried some NIM myself. Too bad I have a channel strike so I won't be able to upload a thing until Sept. BUT, I discovered a lot of things. I just "worship" randomness in Music/Sounds and NIM (Non Input Music/Non Input Mixer, choose the one you fit better! 🙂I'll stick with the first one) is randomness at a very high level. I feel the need to give some very specific input to the randomness so that it turns into a very low frequency autogenerative soundscape: for istance, two oscillators with very precise frequencies can create some sort of "long wave" very regular oscillation. Two Lissajous' LFOs with a very slight different parameters can create a "never seen before and never to be seen again" highly chaotic movements. Under this perspective, NIM is quite hard to "master" unless you couple it with an eurorack synth. And TBH that would be my biggest "wet dream" ever (that's why I wrote my message under this video) but so far even a basic eurorack set is out of my economic league so I use an emulator. Speaking of this, watching your videos gave me A LOT of inspirations. Don't mind the publishing date, you can listen to my latest "noise patches" here ---> skwareuawe.bandcamp.com/ - Carrion - Concert for tinnitus, biphasic electricity and voices in the head I need to find the way to bring the NIM outputs inside my PC and use them for the next work. If I can successfully apply some rand LFO/CV controller generator to an already rand source but with the ability to define some initial state from where to start a self generative "growing entity" I will find my definitive Heaven. And yes, a good part of this whole research/discovery journey is your fault! 😄

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Super glad to hear that you are looking for new solutions and combinations with no input techniques! And thanks for the listening suggestions. You can totally connect your no input setup to your pc using an audio interface. If your audio interface has multiple assignable outputs you can use one of them to send an LFO from your software into the no input mixer! For example I have a Focusrite and with the dedicated software I can assign whatever input, including the digital audio from the pc to any output. A couple of days ago I made a pretty similar setup using a videocall audio into a no input mixer. Totally doable!

  • @AndreaArturoGiuseppeGrossi

    @AndreaArturoGiuseppeGrossi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev Ah, so I should change NIM to NIT to be more precise. I think the software I am using (VCV Rack) can do that, export a signal (whatever it is) to the external world to drive a device. Otherwise I can see if there's an interface suitable for the need. The fact that you say it's doable is a start! P.S. I've checked the Focusrite. Is this the thing you are using? --> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focusrite

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreaArturoGiuseppeGrossi Yes, you can totally do that with vcv rack, sending its signal out from your audio interface to your no input setup. I use a Focusrite 18i8 (and a 18i20), but the smaller versions have multiple assignable outputs too. Of course it works also with other audio interfaces. The basic principle is the same.

  • @breiskapenthouston9674
    @breiskapenthouston9674 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff again mate!!!! Have been wondering how would no input mixer setup work with matrix mixer.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I need to put my hands on one of them but they are pretty expensive, so I have to wait and save some money!

  • @musicforoverexposedcelluloid

    @musicforoverexposedcelluloid

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev I have a quite cheap passive matrix mixer and plan to do some experiments in the near future. :)

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    @@musicforoverexposedcelluloid Great! Keep us updated about it, I'm super curious!

  • @fosferus

    @fosferus

    6 ай бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev low-gain electronics sells a passive matrix mixer. an easy way to disrupt the feedback path is plugging one side of a cable in and touching the other end! can do cool thymic stuff like that

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    6 ай бұрын

    @@fosferus totally! Cannot spoil anything but matrix mixers are something I'm super interested in ;)

  • @eddy_sonik
    @eddy_sonik Жыл бұрын

    👍I LOVE ! 💙⚪❤

  • @BennSutcliffe
    @BennSutcliffe7 ай бұрын

    This is great, going to try it with my keystep. Do you have the fx as part of the feedback loop, or placed after the main output?

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    7 ай бұрын

    Here in this video after the feedback loop.

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Жыл бұрын

    Ow, that high pitched squeal hurts! Cool ideas here, though.

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, sorry, I'm an high pitched tones lover actually, but it's not that common hahaha!

  • @paulleftwick7782
    @paulleftwick77825 ай бұрын

    maybe if you use led of headphone signal into a light sensor of remote control the mixer led as clock?

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    5 ай бұрын

    I didn't understand exactly what you mean, but I have some news about the topic of CV and no input mixers/feedbacks. I'll probably do a follow up video soon with the help of some friends who have more electronic and circuits knowledge than me ;)

  • @noinputensemble
    @noinputensemble Жыл бұрын

    Did anyone say no input ensemble?

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    Жыл бұрын

    Eheheh

  • @DroddMcGroggin
    @DroddMcGroggin4 ай бұрын

    Control voltage is input too! Don't be a signalist!

  • @AndreijRublev

    @AndreijRublev

    4 ай бұрын

    hahaha you got me! I'm not a purist at all ;-)

  • @DroddMcGroggin

    @DroddMcGroggin

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AndreijRublev 😜

  • @ninolium8223
    @ninolium82236 ай бұрын

    i know its you jerma.. there is no use in hiding

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