I am born again for years ,walked in obedience and the spirit for many years and have taken a serious fall shocking that this happened ,deep deep chastisement and repentance so deep so strong almost unbelievable pain and sorrow ,but I am still singing Praises to our king Jesus 🙏🙏

@Brotheral-pb1oj

14 күн бұрын

Are you a witness to Him?

@user-zt9ll4st1t

13 күн бұрын

​@Brotheral-pb1oj pretty sure what he wrote is a witness.

@Brotheral-pb1oj

13 күн бұрын

@@user-zt9ll4st1t ?????

@yohabi4738

12 күн бұрын

We all stumble, brother. The fact that you know you've fallen shows you've got the spirit working in you. The Bible says in 1st John 1:7 'and the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin...' Let's continue to abide in him so that when we fall, or stumble, we'll cry unto him for help...we believe he will never forsake us if we come to him for help. If we relax and continue in our sinful ways then we'll grief the Holy Spirit and that will be catastrophic for us.

@Brotheral-pb1oj

12 күн бұрын

@yohabi4738 I'm thinking that you think that your comment is a justification for " ignoring " Hebrews chapter 3 verses 12-14!

1 Corinthians 1:8 he will keep you strong to the end so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

22:19 “But my confidence rests in the power of Christ to sustain me with His grace and by the power of His intercession for us, that He is going to bring us safely through.” What a Savior and Lord we have! He bought us with His own blood. He is our Good Shepherd. ❤️

Amen! Thank you for sharing these excellent biblical teachings of the late Dr. R.C. Sproul.

@Brotheral-pb1oj

Ай бұрын

Actually I was showing the teachings of the Bible. RC sproul teaches whatever John Calvin says. The Bible is my teacher.

@rhondae8222

14 күн бұрын

@@Brotheral-pb1oj Dr. R.C. Sproul and John Calvin taught from the Bible. Both were biblical. Moreover, the Doctrine of Election and the Doctrine of Predestination are biblical. Romans 8:30-31 Amplified Bible (AMP) And those whom He predestined, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified [declared free of the guilt of sin]; and those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity]. Furthermore, if you deny these biblical doctrines, you also deny the Sovereignty of God. Clearly, you lack understanding of the Word of God. Apostle Paul also speaks on this. Amen! Praise Christ. 😊 ❤

@Brotheral-pb1oj

14 күн бұрын

@rhondae8222 I prefer to lack understanding, than to understand that God Almighty has the nature of a fleshly man, that He would deliberately choose to save a few and deliberately damn the majority. That sounds like something that a fleshly man would do. Do you really want to accuse God Almighty of being that malevolently flippant? Think about it!

@stephenwan6415

11 күн бұрын

@Brotheral-pb1oj if you believe the bible is the inerrant word of God, I too (speaking the truth in lovel) humbly remind you, PREDESTINATION and ELECTION is clearly scriptural. Whether we agree or not on its ethics. Moreover, if we choose some and neglect other bible verses, we will fall prey to deception and Satan's lies.

@Brotheral-pb1oj

11 күн бұрын

@stephenwan6415 Predestination and Election are absolutely true. Yet not in the sense that calvinists teach it. I agree with you that we cannot choose some scriptures and ignore others. Another thing: No one verse nullifies another verse. So we have to rightly divide the Word. Let me give you an example. Let's look at 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 9. It clearly states that it is God's will that non should perish. You can't exegete this verse incorrectly. It is plain and clear. Now let's take a verse that seems to promote determinism before the foundation of the world. ( You can choose whatever verse you like on election and/or predestination.) No matter how much you think that your verse promotes determinate election or predestination, you CANNOT just nullify 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 9. This verse is just as much the Word of God as your choice of verses on election and predestination. Neither can I nullify your verses. So what should we do. From my side of the aisle I have to weigh the clarity of my scripture as opposed to the clarity of election. Well if my scripture is clear and cannot be interpreted in any other way than what it is clearly saying, being that I cannot nullify your scripture, then I have to use context and narrative to exegete the true meaning of election and predestination scripture is really saying, in a manner that it does not contradict my preference of scripture. And this works vice-versa as well. My point: One verse never nullifies another verse. Context and narrative is important in all exegetions. In short you cannot teach determinate election and predestination without explaining 2nd Peter chapter 3 v 9 and neither can I teach 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 9 without explaining the true meaning of election and predestination.

Praise God!

Excellent teaching! Thank you for posting this. All praise to our Sovereign God! 🙌 We are kept by the power of His might.

I absolutely agree with dear R. C. Sproul, my late sweet brother IN Christ! True regenerated believers ARE preserved by our Loving Savior and CANNOT LOSE THEIR SALVATION! To God alone be the GLORY!!!❤

@clelladams2326

12 күн бұрын

if you believe that, why don't you sin some and deliberately not ask forgiveness. See what happens when you die?

@prryblu

10 күн бұрын

@@clelladams2326 Because a Truly Born Again Person Will Never deliberately Behave As You Say,Remember What Paul Said In Romans 7:15 For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.

@clelladams2326

9 күн бұрын

@@prryblu Bro, Paul wasn't talking about his current life. Read Chapter 8. But then concerning my challenge, why wouldn't a believer not do that? Is it perhaps because deep inside they know that if they sin and do't repent and receive cleansing as in 1 John 1:9, they will be considered lost and be like Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. So, you nor anyone else that is a Believer really and truly believes that if they deliberately sin and don't repent, that they will still go to heaven.

@prryblu

7 күн бұрын

@@clelladams2326 An un repented Sinner Cannot Go To Heaven

@clelladams2326

7 күн бұрын

@@prryblu I'm not talking about someone who has never been born again. I'm talking about a Christian who sins and doesn't ask forgiveness. 1 jo 1:9.

You can’t buy salvation can’t earn it it’s a gift from GOD through his son JESUS and you can’t loose it if you could you would

@zhuangcorp

4 күн бұрын

Wrong. Jesus said if you believed once but fall back into unbelief, your punishment will be worse than if you had never believed in the first place.

@jys76

3 күн бұрын

You have to accept a gift offered to you in order to benefit from it. What happens when someone offers you a gift and you don't accept it ? What happens when you send it back to the giver ? Are you able to benefit from it when you have it sent back ?

@georgeknell8252

11 сағат бұрын

The more that is given the more that will be expected. So you're "born again" and once saved always saved? So go out and sin, I'm already saved. You're right, you cannot buy your way into heaven, but you surely will be condemned for your actions. So be holy as God is holy. Work for His will to be done, submit your will to His.

no one "looses" salvation once if they have truly been a believer. However, you can certainly reject the same salvation (or can you really?). Now I don't know how far you've got to get to where you are absolute in never coming back. I've never been so far away that the Holy Spirit didn't keep drawing me back. How many times can that happen to a believer? I can speak from experience..........I just don't know. Even when I was away from God, I could feel Him perpetually prodding me. I could not escape it.

@JesusistheonetrueGod

Ай бұрын

If you're the repentant sinner and He's the saviour, His death on the cross paid for all your sins. However, no one who keeps on sinning deliberately, meaning you are not sorry for your sins, is one of His sheep.

@johnhoffman8203

Ай бұрын

You can reject your choosing/sanctification/inheritance/kingdom of heaven/God, and not be worthy to enter the kingdom/blotted out. You cant reject your rebirth/calling/justification/gift/OSAS.

@Brotheral-pb1oj

Ай бұрын

I see your point! Yet what you are saying is that the bible is not saying what it is appearing to be saying about departing from the living God. There are more scriptures that clearly state that one can indeed, make void one's salvation. However, I humbly suggest to you that this issue is not the most deadly issue. To be taught that Christ DID NOT die for the sins of ALL humanity is the the HERESY THAT WILL LEAD TO DAMNATION, because this doctrine, nullifies The Grace, Mercy, and Love that God has for ALL. It paints a picture of God that is created from the natural intellect of man and not from the God whose thoughts and ways are HIGHER than ours. This doctrine also hinders the purpose of God calling believers to be witnesses and bear fruits, and to be lights in this world, for the purpose of drawing people to Christ. Matthew chapter 5 verse 16 . I encourage you to consider the implications of the True character of God that this doctrine is promoting. I offer to you that God has no respect of persons. Romans chapter 2 verse 11. And that He desires ALL to be born-again, and not only that, He desires those of us who are saved to be witnesses of His salvation through faith in Christ for the salvation of our souls in the hopes that whosoever will, shall come to Christ by faith for the salvation of their souls that they shall not perish when they leave this world. To reject this is to reject the Gospel of Christ. You actually do have a choice!

@johnhoffman8203

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your reply. If one can make void one's salvation then that is indeed critical. You have to realize that we are tri part as God is, we are spirit (intuition, conscience, and communicator), soul (intellect, emotion, will), body (blood, flesh, bone). All three died in the garden (death means separation) and all three must be redeemed. The spirit at rebirth, the body at the rapture, and the soul either at the judgement seat of Christ or at the end of the Millennium. Read 1 Thes 5.23. The spirit (calling) rebirth is irrevocable per Romans 11.29 and other verses. The soul is our choice by sanctification to pursue or not and the inheritance comes by it per Acts 20.32/26.18. Justification is the first step and one can lose his soul/be blotted out of which you referred to about losing your salvation. Total salvation is acquired when one is serving Christ in a glorified body (flesh and bone animated by the Holy Spirit) in the Millennium for 1K years. This is being chosen and many are called but few are chosen. Scripture is about salvation of the soul per 1 Pt 1.9, Hebrews 10.39, and James 1.21. The kingdom is what Christ is king of and what He taught on Earth to Israel, but they rejected it and Him per Mt 21.43. We are that nation and must produce fruit. This is obscure in scripture because the kingdom isnt taught and must be strived for and nobody wants that/reward plus or minus. God bless.

@7zovets406

Ай бұрын

@@johnhoffman8203 agree .. peace+love>

Can you name any early Christian father who believed that once saved always saved? Please cite name and reference.

Great message...comforting to the soul...❗️

Praise God 🙏

There are several verses that warn against falling away. It would be pretty pointless if “falling away” didn’t happen.

@Kman.

Ай бұрын

Nobody would argue o/wise, but it's in the *DEFINING* of "falling away" that's the issue.

@GTRalso

Ай бұрын

@@Kman. Falling away….. abandoning your faith…. not completing the “ race” as Paul warns. To “ remain” in Him….. to keep the faith…. etc etc. The purpose of our lives is to see who will endure. To see who will be found worthy to reign with Him. Seems 1/3 of the New Testament would be futile if we were all on autopilot. We are not robots. Freewill my friend.

@JD-yq3dd

17 күн бұрын

​​@@GTRalso i agree with you. we don't lose our faith like we lose our keys. There are those who shipwreck their faith.

@clelladams2326

12 күн бұрын

@@JD-yq3dd These must be read in the context of your comment. It's a sinning that a Christian does (in this case going back to judaism for salvation) on purpose. That's why it impossible to renew them to repentance. This is not 1 John 1:9. Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. A person "loses" their salvation because they no longer believe in Christ's atoning work for their salvation.

@stephenwan6415

11 күн бұрын

Yes, absolutely, apostasy is in the bible, old and new testament, 1) the Exodus jews Moses bought out from Egypt, non crossed over to the promise land bar Joshua and Caleb with the second generation 2) King Saul 3) Solomon's heart turned away from God (in his old age) towards idols of his many foreign wives. 4)Ananuas and Safari his wife held back part of their estate and died where they stood for lying to the Holy Spirit. However, the Lord said his sheep hears his voice and follow him and they shall NEVER perish , for no man can take them from his hands. What of Apostle Paul, who said " he who began a good work in you shall perform it until the day of Jesus Christ " Falling away and eternal security are parallel truths. Such is the mystery of Godliness. For we all know in part, but all things shall be done away with. When we are children , we think and act as children but when we become adults, we shall put aside our childish ways. Brethren, I trust one day all will be made known to the godly.

In the past I believed that one can lose one salvation but when I read the Gospel of John specifically ch 6, 10 and 17 my opinions changed. Jesus came to do the Father's will. He came to preach repentance, he came to obey the law, he came to heal the blind and sick, he cast out demons, he came to save the elect given to him by the Father and finally he promised he will not lose any of them. One who believes one can lose their salvation forget 1) the relationship we have with God in our walk, 2) that our faith is only maintained by God's grace and 3) that God loves us and will never abandon us. God is all powerful and will never be defeated by anyone not the demons and especially us humans.

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

Jesus is not defeated when we fall away. We are defeated.

@MrLegionofman

Ай бұрын

@@tomgarrison5313 the reason you are saved is because of Jesus and our Lord promise he will protect us from the evil one to ensure our salvation. Therefore if a person loses their salvation it means Jesus has not fulfilled his promise. Please I would like to give you some verse if you are open sir?

@JesusistheonetrueGod

Ай бұрын

We can't lose something that is not in our hands.

@MrLegionofman

Ай бұрын

@@JesusistheonetrueGod Amen we are saved by grace through faith. Faith is the instrument of our salvation but grace is the reason we are saved given to us by God.

@JesusistheonetrueGod

Ай бұрын

@@MrLegionofman Amen brother

*Election and Foreordination* *“We believe God did foreordain and devise a PLAN from the foundation of the world by which He would SAVE man, and further, He did foreordain from the beginning, all men throughout the ages who would ACCEPT and BE WILLING TO CONFORM to this PLAN, should be SAVED; so that everyone in HARMONY with His power and liberty of choice who shall CHOOSE ETERNAL LIFE through God’s PLAN was foreordained to ETERNAL SALVATION.”*

@blchamblisscscp8476

26 күн бұрын

Not in the Bible. Sorry. That's just Leighton Flowers reasoning.

@Matrixqc777

26 күн бұрын

@@blchamblisscscp8476 Easy to say, but no scriptures from the Bible to prove your empty comment. Maybe you're the "better theologian" than any of us. *“The Devil is a better theologian than any of us and is a Devil still” - A.W. Tozer (1897-1963).*

yes the bread of life discourse in john 6 shows jesus disciples falling away. if it can happen to people who personally knew him and followed him for years, it can happen to anyone

@kurtweiand7086

Ай бұрын

Define grace!

@wjm5972

Ай бұрын

@@kurtweiand7086 A participation in the life of christ. it is a free gift that god makes to us of his own life, infused by the holy spirit into our soul to heal it fom sin and sanctify it

@Colorado_Native

Ай бұрын

​@@kurtweiand7086Unmerited favor.

@frankkhoshaba7648

Ай бұрын

Wjm5972 , did you read the full chapter or u stopped at they turned away never to walk with him again. But if you continue reading. Jesus goes on to say no one can come to me unless the father draws him. All that the father gives me, come to me and I will cast none of them out but raise them up on the last day. So who ends up falling away. None

@Colorado_Native

Ай бұрын

@@frankkhoshaba7648 Well said.

The only thing that matters are we honoring God with our hearts and not just our lips! Are we seeking to live a life of sacrafice for Gods glory, growing in knowledge of who he is for his glory! If not we must do some soul searching as Paul said! "See if you be in the faith."

Per my own understanding based on this teaching by RC Sproul, a person who back slide and turn back away from the faith, there is still enough grace God has provided for him to return back to the fold. But the person has to do his own action and decision of going back to the fold because God has given us free will to make choices and consequences of our decisions.

@bobwood5146

2 күн бұрын

sorry that you don't understand what happens to a person that God saves. Your "free will" had nothing to do with God saving you---just like your free will had nothing to do with your human birth.

@evcabrerajr

2 күн бұрын

@@bobwood5146 I beg to disagree. God cannot force Himself to any person for salvation. He made a way through the death of Jesus on the cross but still it’s up to us to receive it or not. Try to look at John 3:16, God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him…….. God has given us a choice and it’s up to us to respond. Read Rev. 3:20, Jesus knocking on the door, if any man hear my voice and open the door …… Again, your free will or your choice will decide. Your analogy of free will and your human birth is irrelevant.

So 'Faith, Hope and LOVE abide these three, but THE GREATEST of these is LOVE'... 1Cor.13:13

AMEN 🙏 🙏 🙏

I think what Sproul seems to miss is that if God perseveres for us then there is no perseverance. Jesus should have said “those who I persevere for to the end shall be saved” If “once saved always saved” was true, Satan would never have fallen nor would Adam or Eve because all three started out in perfect relationship with God which is the end game of salvation. And yet, all three turned away from their inheritance.

Yes, if one is spirit reborn/called/justified per Jn 3.3 then he is preserved and never lost. The issue here is sainthood and the theory that rebirth means sainthood which is not true per Romans 1.7, that those called are to work to become saints per 2 Thes 2.13/14, through salvation of the soul per 1 Pt 1.9, Heb 10.39, and James 1.21. It is the saints that are sealed and never lost as their inheritance is guaranteed per Ephesians chpt 1.. It is preservation of the saints if you are a saint.

If you could lose your salvation, you would. You arent saved by grace through faith with Jesus being the author and perfector of your faith, then lose it then gain it by works...so youd have grace, lose it, works, lose it, etc. NO WORK could possibly save you.

Was the thief on the cross baptized justified go through Mary or go to pergutaty or confess to a priest or take cuminun or have the last rights. JESUS ALONE.

@suzyjackson5514

3 күн бұрын

Amen

■ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1) ■ "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:" (2 Timothy 2:12) ■ “Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:22) ■ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6) ■ "But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." (Luke 12:45,46) ■ "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." (1 Corinthians 9:27)

Be born again and study the Bible. Context, context, context. History and theology. Let the Spirit of God illuminate the Word and ask for wisdom and knowledge. Denied yourself and carry your cross. Don’t practice sin. Be righteous and holy as God. We will fail. But God never fails. The triune God has the power to save who He wants saved. Have faith in His Word. And don’t doubt His power. Read the scripture and you will find out that once saved, always saved. If you are a true born again christian you will see that it’s Gods promise to save who he wants to save. I doubted too. But now as a follower of Jesus Christ, I now see in His Word clearly that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit till the day, he returns. And there’s plenty of verses in the Scriptures, but that’s why read the history, and who the authors is speaking to and how can we apply this to ourselves and let’s not take the word out of context we cannot play fast and loose with the text.

@Dragonwar0

Ай бұрын

Amen well said! He who began a good work in you will finish it!

@harrymurray9702

Ай бұрын

Our good works are as filthy rages, the Bible makes it quite clear to divide the word of Truth. Essentially, we must strive to be Holy and turn from Sin, However we cannot do this perfectly, and no acts or works will ever aid us into entering the Kingdom. Our acts, and works, motivations are based on if we are TRULY saved, many do not understand this. A good tree will bear good fruit, a bad tree will bear bad fruit. Salvation is a supernatural work of God, Grace is unmerited favor, this cannot be earned.

@SabrinaRogue

Ай бұрын

Many are fakes, God knows who they are just make sure it's not you

I have a question…the 2 men, whom Jesus said “depart from me for I never knew you”, probably believed that they were true, real followers of Jesus…obviously they were wrong. You probably know what’s coming next, How do you EVER know that you are truly saved in Gods eyes?

@InspirationalBirds-dz6qo

14 күн бұрын

You can't truly know if you are saved in God's eyes that is why it is said we are saved by Grace through faith.

If you are Trusting in Jesus Christ ALONE for your Salvation you have been "Sealed unto the Day of Redemption"Eph:4:30, Because True Believers are Trusting in Jesus Alone NO ONE CAN BREAK THAT SEAL-NOT EVEN OURSELF!!!!!!!

@Madcow7777

23 күн бұрын

Sure David caresh was sealed with a guarantee that he was the second coming no one can break that seal. You’re all like “I’m sealed.”… but nobody else can be. Totally pathetic. Pa thet ic pathetic pathetic,

@PatrickSteil

18 күн бұрын

So Jesus keeps us hostage. Got it.

@Madcow7777

16 күн бұрын

But you’re not trusting in Jesus alone so you are no sealed

@PatrickSteil

16 күн бұрын

Harold.... and anyone else who believes Ephesians 4:30 says that we cannot lose our Salvation. Use Rule #1 in interpreting a scripture verse. READ THE VERSES IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE VERSE. 25 Therefore, putting away falsehood, speak the truth, each one to his neighbor, for we are members one of another. 26 Be angry but do not sin; do not let the sun set on your anger,[k] 27 and do not leave room for the devil. 28 The thief must no longer steal, but rather labor, doing honest work[l] with his [own] hands, so that he may have something to share with one in need. 29 No foul language should come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for needed edification, that it may impart grace to those who hear. 30 And do not grieve the holy Spirit of God, with which you were sealed for the day of redemption.[m] 31 All bitterness, fury, anger, shouting, and reviling must be removed from you, along with all malice. 32 [And] be kind to one another, compassionate, forgiving one another as God has forgiven you in Christ. If you think that we cannot lose our salvation, all these verses before and after verse 30 tell us a list of things that Christians are required to do. Jesus continually calls people to repent. If he is not calling us to repent, or if he is only calling us to repent until we "have faith", then what is he actually saving us from? ONLY eternal damnation? I want to be saved in order to have unity with my Lord now. How do I do that? He tells me - deny myself, take up my cross and follow Him. Learn what love truly is - it is a sacrifice - he gave us the ultimate example. Be like Him. Don't worry about whether or not I am "saved", but just do His will. Protestanism has focused too much on what "salvation" means and has in turn helped people to lose focus on what is the most important commandment.

I vote YES. On another note: Who was the idiot who thought it would be a great idea to superimpose Comic Sans captions??

How do we know, or how can we be assured? 2 Pe 1:10 says the responsibility is on us. I really believe Reformed doctrine falls short here exactly the same way i believe entire sanctification falls short... I've never known one person with a so-called second baptism who is perfect or can be. Now I'm not saying we should just throw in the towel and give up because we can't... the Bible says it is our responsibility to be perfect. We can't do it but we're still called to have the right attitude. Those who decided everything was ok & just gave up on their faith... those people along with the people who never knew Christ are in jeopardy. The blasphemers are already writing me comparing their life to mine but the difference is easy to see if they just weren't under the delusion they are under... partly of their own doing and partly because God promised if they refuse Him He would give them over.

First of all we are also warned in the scriptures to avoid foolish questions and genealogies. Secondly, if anyone would truly be honest they would admit that there is no way we can absolutely know the answer to this question. I have received Jesus Christ by faith through the cross of Calvary by the blood that Jesus shed on the cross for remission of sins, we are all regardless still sinners who live in a sinful world, we must constantly confess our sins and repent of our sins it is a lifelong daily journey, what we should all do if we are going to name the name of Christ if we are going to be followers of Christ,

Can a believer become an unbeliever? and still be saved? Like in John 6:66 where disciples decided not to walk with Jesus anymore. Can you be severed from Christ? and fall from grace? and still be saved Gal 5:4 Can you depart from the faith, give heed to deceitful spirits and doctrine of demons and still be saved? Can I walk in darkness and still be saved? or must I walk in the light? 1 John 1:6-7 Can I be saved and not obey the commandments of the Lord? read 1 John Can I walk in the flesh and still be saved? fornication, adultery, etc......never ever repent and still be saved? or must I walk in the Spirit? Romans 8 Can I go to heaven and not do the will of the Father? Matt 7:21 We are saved by faith, an obedient faith, not a dead faith and we become children of God by faith when we are baptized into Christ, when we put Christ on, Gal 3:26-27

Was ananias and sapphire saved? Just curious.

Side Comment: I wish that these KZread™ messages required the publisher to state the *_date message was originally given_* . Dr. R.C. Sproul had to severely discipline his own adult son, publicly. Wonder if this happened before/after this message?

@robt2151

4 күн бұрын

Even in the Bible there are several accounts of godly men who children did not follow in their fathers' faith.

Is there a process in salvation? Can someone help me understand Hebrews 9:28 thank you

Hebrews chapter 3 verses 12, 13, and 14.

@vdmerwejo

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the reference

@Brotheral-pb1oj

Ай бұрын

@@vdmerwejo You're welcome!

@MrLegionofman

Ай бұрын

Yes that is the correction that scripture tells us that faith is the instrument of our salvation. But the bible also tells us that God will keep us from falling away completely because he promised to protect us. Which is what this text is clearly doing. It is warning us to be faith and not fall away but it is not contrary to the doctrine of perseverance.

@markwillhite9200

Ай бұрын

​@@MrLegionofmanthe protection only comes from following the directions. Putting on the armour of God with the word of God so ye may stand against the wiles of the devil. The devil is anyone who misrepresents God. One cannot see the lie if they do not know the truth. God does his part, we must do our part.

@MrLegionofman

Ай бұрын

@@markwillhite9200 Yes we do our part but God also does his and he is more powerful than all especially the devil or us. Therefore the idea that one loses ones salvation is contrary to scripture because if what you say is true that men can fall to the lies of the devil then does that mean the devil defeated God? Especially since Jesus promised that all that is given to him shall have eternal life because it is the Fathers will that he lose none.

Question How to be saved? Dual life The believer must know One decaying other forever physical to Spiritual

John 10; 11“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12But a [b]hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. There are plenty of "churches" out there today who are seeing this scattering of the sheep. Standing firm on the Truth of Gospel, I have been run off from churches through the decades, but I still confess Christ And Him crucified for my sins. I suppose some of the people at these churches made a judgment about my spiritual condition, simply because I'm no longer there. A lot of these places like to beat up on the true sheep of Christ, and then cast judgment upon them when they leave. But we who have been sealed by the Holy Spirit of God hear his voice. Another we will not listen to.

Saddening to see so many living in fear…illiteracy is rampant

@williamgullett5911

Ай бұрын

Is it fear?

Wonder how long everlasting and eternal is? 🤔

@user-lo4gr9wq2j

17 күн бұрын

Just what it says, and it is true of Hell and of that new Paradise Heaven and Earth! It is also true of ALL who will end in Hell, and true of ALL who will end in the new Paradise Heaven and Earth! Christ JESUS of Nazareth said based upon our life and deeds/works, one or the other will be our ETERNAL, EVERLASTING, ETERNITY! We can believe man! Or, we can believe HIM who holds ALL POWER in Heaven and Earth, including our last breath, in HIS Hand! Our body, our choice!

@geraldwest3428

11 сағат бұрын

@user-lo4gr9wq2j sorry dude, you CANNOT work your way into heaven.

@user-lo4gr9wq2j

6 сағат бұрын

@@geraldwest3428 Do we not love the way THE TRUTH is summed up in The HOLY GHOST Inspired AKJV Bible, as translated out of the original tongues, at James 2:1-20; so where did that lie come from? Oh, never mind; from those with the mind of those devils who believe AND tremble, knowing based on their works/deeds, they FOREVER forfeited their "Well done!" AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

If you can "lose" you salvation, then you couldn't have been "saved" in the first place. How can you lose your salvation that you didn't earn in the first place. But there are some passages in the bible which give the idea that you can lose your salvation.

@williamgullett5911

Ай бұрын

A person can't lose what they never had

But how do we know the Lord wrote our name in the book?

@cendallitak8140

Ай бұрын

Being birn again, having faith I guess

@rajs230

Ай бұрын

​@@cendallitak8140Romans 8:16 For the Spirit himself giveth testimony to our spirit, that we are the sons of God.

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

When we repent and turn to Christ and get born again, then he puts our name in the book of life.

Judas Iscariot was with them for 3 years. None of the others knew he wasn't with them. But he certainly showed his true condition in the end.

incorruptible seed means incorruptible (righteousness), like saved means saved ,osas .. peace+love>

So tell me this… How can someone lose their salvation?

David was done. Davids prayers were no longer answered. Psalms. God hears the prayers of the righteous but is far from the wicked. Proverbs.

Seems rather impossible to be restored after serious sin once one was "saved".

Let’s not forget Revelation ch3 v5 There is a big ‘if,’ here! JESUS himself is talking about people who’s names ARE ALREADY IN The Book Of The Living: the saved!

Signs of the last days before Son of man returns, many will fall away from this faith and take heed of the doctrines of the devil, Which faith are they leaving? Are they in the faith for them to fall away from it, or they are not in the faith but none the less fall away from it?

Of course they can and do. Many eventually figure out the real truth and it isn't the gospel.

No one is saved until after death. 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? 24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Ezek 18:21-24 (KJV) 9 Wherefore we LABOUR, that, whether present or absent, we may be ACCEPTED of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. not for the purpose of boasting 12 For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart. 2 Cor 5:9-12 (KJV) Amen

What about King Solomon? At the end of his life, he apostatizes and follows the women's gods.

Are you sure you are Saved..? What is the evidence..? Jesus said except a man be born of Water and of Spirit he can not enter into the kingdom of God What is born of Water and Spirit...?

This is what happens when you hyper focus on your own salvation. It’s not about you.

full payment by God holds always, for everyone, so dont let yourself be slaves to people any more (ie dont do sin through being under law). gospel is not about law, its the opposite of law. dont judge.

"pastors" sometimes use the "..but they were not of us" after they bully a believer out of their congregation. The "us" John is referring to is the Apostolic doctrine once for all given to the saints - it refers to supposed churches not being part of the True Church.

@gmdc3870

25 күн бұрын

Didn't R.C. Sproul use the same verse: "but they were not of us?" Do you believe the theologian was incorrect on this area?

This is the complete opposite of what the Catholic church teaches, that you can lose your justification but be restored by its sacrament of penance and system of indulgences whereby you have to do good works in order to regain your justification. And when those are done, God has to accept you back. Salvation by faith, yes, but plus good works which goes against Ephesians 2:8,9 which states: "NOT by works in case anyone should boast."

@lovealways2609

Ай бұрын

True

@CappieBG

Ай бұрын

Catholic church makes no sense to me. Lets exclude the fact that its not biblical. How do they see the sacrifice of Jesus the only sinless ,,person''. Galatians 2:21 ,, I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”. I am afraid some of those Catholics might hear the verse haven't we done this this and that and this in your name....

So if Jesus forgave Peter, what about Judas Iscariot? Is Judas saved?

@DylanGalvinMusic

8 күн бұрын

Judas was not saved because Jesus never prayed for him. He was the son of perdition prophesied to betray Jesus. He grieved over his sin, but was never repentant. Instead of going to Christ for forgiveness, he administered punishment to himself.

Anyone can reject the truth and those who reject the truth will be cut off from the life of Christ. The Spirit of Truth is revealing truth to whoever will accept it. But Spirit of Truth is gentle and doesnt force the truth on anyone and those who reject the truth accept a lie. Those who accept a lie can only accept more lies which causes them to have bizarre beliefs which makes them end up living a life that is contrary to the teachings of Christ.

How is the opening with a long winded repeat of what a man had to say not a red flag this is going to be a trainwreck?

If you could lose your Salvation,you would lose it every day,

assage Resources Hebrew/Greek Your Content Hebrews 6 King James Version 6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit. 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

@jamesparsons4461

Ай бұрын

Yes sir , IF a person is saved and loses salvation, Jesus would have to purchase their salvation again on the cross , and I don't think that's going to happen,

AT NO PLACE IN THE BIBLE can one find "Once saved always saved;" however, in at least seven places, THE SPIRIT makes more than plain that IF, IF, IF, we ENDURE IN CHRIST JESUS of Nazareth, UNTIL OUR END, then we shall be saved! Where is all the adding to, which GOD ALMIGHTY hates, coming from, especially in these last of the last days? As GOD ALMIGHTY has said, we MUST endure in this race in HOLINESS, in RIGHTEOUSNESS, being PERFECT, as HE, until our end, then win! We can believe man, or HIM who holds ALL POWER, including our last breath, in HIS Hand! More-and-more, I understand why HE had to shorten the days! More-and-more, I understand why the RIGHTEOUS shall SCARCELY be saved! That "Once saved always saved" lie has SURELY caused that growing increase in the mockery being made of GRACE through faith in Christ JESUS of Nazareth, and that growing number of "Depart from me" castaways! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

I'm 63 have less than 4yrs of marriages if he Wants me married I think it well be funny 😂❤

Saved from what exactly- don’t understand

You cannot fall away if you are a true born-again believer

@felixntui4729

Ай бұрын

assage Resources Hebrew/Greek Your Content Hebrews 6 King James Version 6 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this will we do, if God permit. 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

@created_by_the_divine_83

Ай бұрын

Amen

@ItsFinished

Ай бұрын

Do you have free will?

@John-nl7xo

Ай бұрын

Of course you can

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

There are far too many who got born again and were following God, who have fallen away. I know some of them. We have free will. God never takes away our free will choice.

My fear is that I am no better than Judas, as had as saying that may be.

@CappieBG

Ай бұрын

If you believe Jesus is who he says he is you are already ,,better'' than Judas. Matthew 16:14-17 implies knowing that Jesus is the son of god and the second person of the trinity comes directly from the Father. Judas never believed.

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

You would really steal money, and betray the son of God to murderers?

However if he we have received salvation and let us live as if we have let us be a light to the world, stop all the denominational arguing about nonsensical matters live each day as if Christ is coming back

God will not leave you, but you can leave God. Adultry is a man leaving God or a wife leaving her husband. Without biblical grounds.

That would depend on what is meant by "fall away"?

@DylanGalvinMusic

8 күн бұрын

A person who says “I believe” but doesn’t believe in will fall away. A person who actually does believe savingly will hear and respond to the warnings in Scripture because the word of God is how God keeps Christians on the path and preserves them.

@eric_sandstrom

8 күн бұрын

@@DylanGalvinMusic the bottom line is if somebody has been born of the spirit as John 3:8 makes clear is a work of God. A Christian cannot fall away. The bottom line is even though I hate to be cliché the bottom line is once saved always saved. Once you are born again as John 3:3 & John 3:7 is printed you can never go to hell that is the bottom line.

@DylanGalvinMusic

8 күн бұрын

@@eric_sandstromyes, exactly. Thats my point. Those who think they are keeping their salvation are mistaken. It is something the unchanging God gives.

Might as well give this video the title of Calvinism.

@bobbyadkins.... Would be advisable for you to just believe what Jesus promised in John 10:28 and not try to figure it out by your faulty reasoning.

If the Bible tells me to be careful lest i fall away from the faith then I'll believe the Bible than any theologian. Salvation is not a matter of theology.

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

The parable of the soils, what does it mean then? We're the first 3 soils (hearts) ever truly saved? No. The 4th soil was. So the shallow soil according to you would be a believer...then falls away but the point is it never truly was saved...so what looks like falling away is simply "they went out from us because they truly were not of us".

@yohabi4738

12 күн бұрын

@@MikeC-my4lf The parable of the sower doesn't say the farmer deliberately cast the seeds on the roadside or on rocky soil or on thick forest or on good soil. It says 'some seeds fell..' The seeds fell on their own, it wasn't a deliberate act by the farmer. The farmer never intended that some of the seeds would become useless, the seeds decided to fall off. It's a matter of choice, salvation, you go for it or you don't. Christ is there to welcome you in. You got to take a step of faith, repent, confess accept Jesus Christ and change to be saved

@MikeC-my4lf

12 күн бұрын

@yohabi4738 the soils are the human heart, the seeds are the word of God and what happened is merely showing the outcome of people's reaction to the Gospel. From basically 'could care less' to genuine salvation. You will have some that happily receive it, grow up quickly (go to church, serve, etc) but "fall away" but the point is they were never really saved anyway.

@MikeC-my4lf

12 күн бұрын

@yohabi4738 one final thing...I don't care what the Scripture means to you...what does Romans 3.10-16 mean if you were never born? According to that passage, how many seek for Christ? Also, Paul wrote it...tell me about his conversion...was he actively seeking Christ when he was saved or did God change Paul's heart? Because Paul did not make an intelligent decision for Christ, God made it happen.

The phrase “word salad” comes to mind!

Salvation belongs to God for His elect whom He foreknew. It's God Himself who planned for their salvation and He Himself will accomplish it. He planned the salvation and will accomplish it through Jesus Christ whom He prepared in advance for the sons of the promise. It was sin "Satan" who made them lost but Jesus Christ came for them. God forgives their sin for His own sake (Isaiah 43:25), to gain glory/praise. God does not need their works to have them saved but only faith in Jesus Christ (Rom.4:1-8;9:16,30-33;11:5-6)

Can’t be cut off unless grafted in first.So it’s believers who are cut off not unbelievers. The dycotemy presented here is false

Interesting how these speakers always side-step the answers given by Jesus himself. In the parable of the Prodigal Son, the elder brother, of his own free will, refused to join the party. Nobody came out to drag him in. In the Narnia Chronicles, the girl Susan lost interest when she became a teenager. Very normal, you might think? When the other 3 went to Heaven, Susan was absent.

If we could lose our salvation, the work CHRIST did on the cross is pointless along with the sanctification of the Holy Spirit... think about it folks

@felixntui4729

Ай бұрын

If God decide to save some and some not ,then he make acception,then he is not impartial,if he is not impartial,he's not just and if he is not just he can't be God ,but thanks God I know men , scribes,teachers are wrong in this approach,no matter what they teach ,I know God's will is that " all " be save and come to the knowledge of truth ,so if Gods might can't perform to the level of his will ,then he is not God and he can't be trusted.but I know men are wrong ,not God

@created_by_the_divine_83

Ай бұрын

@@felixntui4729 ETERNAL SECURITY is BIBLICAL

Sadly Christianity is dying out in the west. Due to a number of factors. 1 The Clergy who should be preaching the Gospel and caring for their flock. 2. Scandals in the Church and other facts.

The Bible does not teach a formula of discovery so that an individual may have confidence that they are saved. The Bible teaches that we are saved by Faith alone and anyone who teaches that any person instead can know their salvation is assured is lying from a heart of pride. Saying that you know you are saved is the same as claiming that, by the power of your own intellect, you are responsible for your own salvation. People, a Christian is called to perfect their Faith through the most intimate of relationships with the Father. There is no secret formula or steps of logic and reasoning to be found by the intellect that circumvents the Creators prerequisite. If a person can know, then trust/faith becomes redundant. Don't be fooled by theologians who have claimed there is a way to know. As humans, we seek assurance to avoid faith. The reality is that no assurance of anything is given in this life - every single human who ever lived, Christian and non Christian, can testify to that.

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

@danielfraser643

Ай бұрын

Quoting scripture is fantastic, can you please explain where this 'knowledge' comes from. That is; believing something is to be convinced/satisfied in ones own mind, it does not mean knowing. If one were to 'know', where does faith fit in? If one 'knows', what is the purpose of developing faith and to what end does one develop faith?

Then according to Calvin, the meaning of repent (Metanoia) = A change of mind totally is incorrect, what is the point of saying you need to change your mind which represents a free choice from unbelief to belief but according to point one of Calvinism total depravity that than nullifies what Jesus and John the Baptist was asking us to do, so than this makes Calvinism not make sense. What about Adam and Eve God clearly gave them a free choice if God (and he knew already) they were going to fall than did he already predestined them to go to Hell before they fell OR did God choose them to be saved and the rest of Mankind to choose who will go to heaven or hell???, I am really doing my head in just trying to think about this which would say to me Calvin was preaching heresy...Free Grace of Jesus Christ is indeed free and simple! “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day”. John 6:40

@wtom04

2 күн бұрын

@Robbie-vu6pl Good comment! Genesis 6:6 debunks Calvinism's false teaching that He "predestined" everything including the fall of man, sin, and evil. Calvinists also believe that God created man and then INTENTIONALLY predestined his fall and predestined sin and evil. If that is true, then it makes no logical sense for God to feel regret and be deeply troubled afterwards. Hence, the errant belief that God predestined the fall of man is debunked and blown out of the water. Genesis 6:6 - The Lord REGRETTED that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was DEEPLY TROUBLED. If YOU create something and then intentionally engineer it for FAILURE, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE FEELING REGRET AND BE TROUBLED AFTERWARDS. If you deliberately and intentionally create a passenger airliner where it will explode in mid air killing hundreds of passengers, then you would not be feeling regret and be troubled afterwards. I mean after all, you created it to explode, why would you feel regret and be troubled afterwards? Calvinism's wicked teaching that God predestined man's fall, sin, and evil is based upon a perverted understanding of such passages like Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6. However, the context of those passages is clearly explained by many passages in the book of Jeremiah and other Old Testament books. The passages in those books explain that God brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon nations and people when they are living in disobedience, unfaithfulness, and wickedness. God brings those things upon nations and individuals as punishment and as a wake up call. These passages include Jeremiah 16:10-12, Jeremiah 5:19, 2 Chronicles 7:21-22, 1 Kings 9:8-9, etc. Calvinism's demonic teaching makes God the author of sin and evil and in essence exonerates Satan and man. There is double talk and contradiction in Calvinism regarding whether or not God is the author of sin and evil. Calvinism's wicked teaching is a direct attack on the true nature and character of God. God's foreknowledge of the Inquisition, the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, Dec 7, 1941, the Rape of Nanking 1937, and the 9/11 Terrorist attacks does NOT equal to God intentionally and deliberately making those atrocities happen. Those atrocities happened due to the innate evil and wickedness of men's hearts. James 1:13-14 - When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” FOR GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED BY EVIL, NOR DOES HE TEMPT ANYONE; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away BY THEIR OWN EVIL DESIRE and enticed. Jeremiah 7:30-31 - “‘The people of Judah have DONE EVIL in my eyes, declares the Lord. They have set up their detestable idols in the house that bears my Name and have defiled it. They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire-SOMETHING I DID NOT COMMAND, NOR DID IT ENTER MY MIND. Jeremiah 19:5 - They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal-SOMETHING I DID NOT COMMAND OR MENTION, NOR DID IT ENTER MY MIND. Jeremiah 32:35 - They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I NEVER COMMANDED -NOR DID IT ENTER MY MIND-that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin. The Bible teaches John 3:16, NOT "John Calvin 3:16". Hope this helps, God bless!

@Robbie-vu6pl

Күн бұрын

@@wtom04 Brilliant thanks! God Bless

Read 2Peter chapter 2 - all of it! Sorry my dear Baptist or Calvinist friends but no it is not guaranteed if one chooses to walk away

@Kman.

Ай бұрын

I'm not Calvinistic, but what are you basing that on? Didn't Paul say to a WORLDLY church, that we *ALLLLLLLLL* will be changed?

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

So you believe in free will. Tell me something...what to you qualifies as something that qualifies as losing salvation? I mean is there something specific or sin in general?

Sure they can. Otherwise the Holy Ghost wouldn't tell believers to hold fast. And many other exhortations to not turn back. Men's ideas or thoughts do not trump the plain word of God. Just 1 here. Colossians 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister; Believers need to keep their garments white and clean. 1 John 1:9

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

You realize what you said is impossible, yes? No human other than the God man did.

@clellaadams

12 күн бұрын

No. But maybe you should explain your point more. Jesus never sinned.

@MikeC-my4lf

12 күн бұрын

@clellaadams Jesus "kept His garments clean"...meaning He never sinned...every other human being, including His mother in the flesh, sinned...and EVERYONE sins 24/7. Impossible not to.

@clelladams2326

12 күн бұрын

@@MikeC-my4lf Christians don't sin 24/7. up to "everyone sins 24/7" i agree with you. If you are sinning all the time you need to get saved. The Holy Ghost will help you live right. He is the sanctifier. As is the Word. You may have bought a discounted Bible or something.

@MikeC-my4lf

12 күн бұрын

@clelladams2326 when Christ was asked "which is the greatest Commandment" He didn't answer with 1, but 2: love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and the second is love your neighbor (and a neighbor is any human other than yourself) as much as you love yourself. God has 1 system of meadure, 1 standard, His standard. So if you had an old fashioned scale and put God's love in the of Father, Son and Spirit amongst themselves on 1 side and your love of them on the other, you fail. You must love God to His standard...perfectly, consciously and constantly AND love every human as much as you love yourself...again, it's compared to God's love, not your estimation. You fail. 1 sin is enough for hell. ALL mankind fell into sin because of the original sin...Adam took a bite of a piece of fruit he wasn't supposed to. That 1 act of disobedience, taking a bite was SO BAD that ALL humanity was cursed. So...if you think you keep the standard of God, A) you are completely prideful and fail anyway and B) you wouldn't need Christ because you'd be perfect and you're not

Many Christians were taken and to hell by jesus, and they would ask who is this person and Jesus said they once knew me, in other words they were saved they knew me but they decided to go down another road, the wide road.. once saved always saved is a tradition of men thought of buy a Protestant man it's not in the holy book, quit listening to Protestant men they have over 70,000 different denominations in many different interpretations so which one are you going to follow, I follow the ancient Church Jesus, and his first Christian church..

I figured out that Jesus saved everyone. Romans 5:18-20 says that Jesus's work on the cross nullifies Adam's curse. Adam sold everyone into slavery but Jesus's work on the cross is so much more than Adam's evil act. The more sin there is the more grace abounds. You Christians think you are good because you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, but you're not good at all. Which of you is doing any good works? You accept Jesus's work on the cross but the Bible says everyone is going to bow the knee and confess Christ as Lord. The Bible says everyone will make an allegiance to God. God will not deny who He is just because you sin. God is so much bigger than that. He will NEVER remember your sins.

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

If you do not repent and forsake sin, God cannot and will not save you. There is an accounting. Universalism is a lie, and all who believe such fallacy will land in hell on judgment day.

@williamgullett5911

Ай бұрын

Don't allow a misunderstanding of that verse you quoted cost you your salvation. You still need Jesus. That verse is not what you think it is

@jaschlit

8 күн бұрын

Would you explain how revelation 21:8 lines up with your thought process. If the word of God is true, it will be true throughout. What you said doesn’t line up.

Want to know the truth. Read the Bible for yourself and you will find out that the answer is yes. That's why we're warned in the Bible, in order to help us from doing so. Those who don't believe we can fall away, don't believe the warnings of the Bible and don't take heed to them.

@mikemccormick9667

Ай бұрын

Peace! 🙏😊🙏 John 10:27-30 King James Version 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

@eric_sandstrom

Ай бұрын

Bobby: How do you define "fall away"!

@feargodandlive8352

Ай бұрын

@@eric_sandstrom To "fall away" = to have salvation at one point in time and then not have salvation at a point later in time.

@abuelb

Ай бұрын

They were never saved to begin with. Self deceived.​@@feargodandlive8352

@abuelb

Ай бұрын

I read the Bible. And the answer is an emphatic NO!!!!! OSAS is the answer!

Off course you can fall back into Sin.......Sin is Still Sin Believer or not so are the Consequences.......Law Breakers Go to Hell and they do and they will........ Salvation is not by Faith alone it includes what you do too.......

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

So everyone sins 24 hours per day but opening the door for an old lady wipes it out? You sin 24 hours a day but mowing the grass at church wipes away every sin you committed all day? NOTHING...no work can pay for any 1 sin you've done in a day much less the constant sin all day.

TULIP is a flower. OSAS is a false doctrine that will send one to Hell.

Our bodies as believer is The temple of The living God

That this is a question shows utter lack of understanding.

@eric_sandstrom

Ай бұрын

So you're saying that question should not even be asked because it's so basic elemental that nobody once they are saved can be unsaved?

@rhondae8222

Ай бұрын

@@eric_sandstrom That's correct. Once saved always saved.

@abuelb

Ай бұрын

​@@eric_sandstromdouble correct!

@thingamujigger1585

Ай бұрын

​@@danaleanne38 The elect will always be preserved.

In the case of king David and Peter, they were not born again yet when they commit those major sins because Jesus has not died yet and pour out to them the Holy Spirit which happened only at the book of Acts chapter 2.. Another error of Calvinism... "Jesus died once and for all" (Romans 6:10)

Reformed theology teaches that God chose from the beginning who was going to heaven and who was going to hell! It teaches that God ordained everything that ever happened on this earth bad or good. It teaches that man lost free will at the fall of Adam. All false teachings! God is not in the respect of persons If man lost it free will and the fall of Adam then please explain to me how God told Cain sin dwells at your door! You rule The scene or the sin will rule you and Cain went out and killed Abel! That's in the book of Genesis after the fall! Have a great day But most of all if God chose from the beginning who was going to heaven and who was going to hell then he didn't need to send his son to die on the cross! It was totally uncalled for! Reform theology is totally bogus

It sounds like malarkey

Stay away from Calvinism!! Calvinist doctrine is dangerous if you want to be a christian but keep your pride and your secret sins and a sense of autonomy. It’s much easier to believe Gods sovereignty is limited by man’s free will (even though God doesn’t respect that free will in creating the man in the first place, nor will He respect that free will when He judges them on judgement day)

The ESV removed 33,000 words from the Bible. God removed their names from the book of life.

@tomgarrison5313

Ай бұрын

The ESV is not the word of God. Yes, he removed the translators names from his book.

Look at all those people who listen to Sproul as if Sproul knew exactly what God is, what he says, and what he wants. They aren't listening to God, but they think they are. They treat what Sproul says as if he speaks for God. Sproul himself will tell you exactly what the mind of God is....or so he pretends to.

You can lose your salvation if you don't repent. You can urge all you want about this but didn't Christ says, "Many will claim to know me and I will say I do not know you!" So, stop sinning and committing anti-god behavior.

@billstory4979

Ай бұрын

They were never saved to begin with,can't lose salvation if so then how do I get it back

Yes , in Heb it says it's impossible to fall away and be brought back to repentance , wake up everyone , Sproul is a false teacher , wake up .

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

What is the only way a person is saved?

*Calvinism is a FALSE GOSPEL.* Jesus died for *ALL of us* (John 1:29), (John 3:16,17), (John 4:42), (2 Corinthians 5:14, 15), (Romans 5:18), (1 Timothy 2:6), (1 Timothy 4:10,11)...etc. Because He is an incredibly loving and merciful God! A “god” who has billions of souls in His hands, all of them sinners, and who, being able to choose, chooses the *immense majority* to be destroyed in hell!!, not to be saved… could be sovereign, but *He is NOT a loving God, he is NOT a merciful God.* My calvinist friend, you are not better than anyone. God didn't see anything special in you. Nothing. You are not worth a cent more than any of the billions of souls that your “god” is going to send to hell without any possibility of choice. The only reason God could choose you without violating His character, without being a respecter of persons, (Romans 2:11) is because He knew in advance that you would respond positively to His call. “For many are called, but few *CHOSEN.* ” (Matthew 22:14) *FREE WILL = LOVE!!* "I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; *CHOOSE,* therefore..." (Deuteronomy 34:19). Also, *the Bible does NOT say that we are totally depraved beings.* Be very careful friends! This statement could well come from the mouth of satan himself, who is completely depraved. *We still carry the image of God!* Let's not forget it. And because of that, we can *BELIEVE* and respond freely to God's call for salvation. *That limited atonement is an abomination.* Heresy of great caliber. There is nothing exclusive or limited about the cross. Nothing!! *He paid for ALL our sins* (Isaiah 53:6), (1 John 2:2), (John 12:47), (1 John 4:14), (Titus 2:11), (Hebrews 2:9). That is why Jesus commands us to preach to every creature in every nation. Irresistible grace? Not only is it a heretical concept (Acts 7:51), but it is absurd in its essence. Grace is a gift by definition. A gift that cannot be refused... is not a gift, it is an imposition. *Once saved, always saved, no matter what you do, it is one of the devil's biggest and best lies.* The Spirit of God is not up to nonsense! The entire New Testament is full of warnings, from Jesus and Paul, against apostasy. Warning someone of a danger that does not exist is stupid. The Spirit of God would never do such a thing. We need to study the Bible, but we urgently need to take off our Calvin glasses so we can see. Prayer and fasting. By the way, cessationism is another heresy. *All* the gifts of the Holy Spirit operate today for the glory of the Lord. God wants you to know it. (Sorry for my english) *THE END IS NEAR.*

@brentsteyn6671

18 күн бұрын

Okay so my good work will save me? Am I saving my self or is God saving me or is it both. If I, has a man have a significant part in my salvation? How do I measure it? How many good work do I need to do? Or how do my work towards abstain from sin should measure up to, before I obtain my salvation?

@elsamusoy

15 күн бұрын

@@brentsteyn6671 works? No, no. Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” (John‬ ‭6:29‬)

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

So why preach tge Gospel? If everyone is saved, then going out in the world to tell everyone "you're all saved, you can be an Atheist, Muslim, Jew, axe murderer or pedophile and you're going to heaven".

OSAS is unbiblical, illogical and undermines Jesus example.

@MikeC-my4lf

13 күн бұрын

If you don't believe OSAS, then you do not understand the sinfulness of sin. You, me, everyone sins 24/7, non stop. Tell me, I'm sure you do believe everyone sins...I'm sure you'll agree that from Adam all have inherited his sin nature...and what sin did he commit? Rape? Murder? Pedophilia? He ate a piece of fruit he wasn't supposed to. That was so bad ALL humanity was cursed. Again, you sin 24/7, you sure that amount of sin worthy of eternal damnation can be glanced over because you read your daily verse or mowed the church lawn? Because if you lose it, then you have to earn it back and that's not grace, it's works salvation and the best works man is capable of is filthy rags...dirty menstrual garments