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@goodshorts

2 ай бұрын

A very poor representation of OSAS. Many of these men made claims that OSAS supports the idea "You don't have to live holy lives". The Bible clearly teaches we have to live holy lives. The distinction is simply made in scripture between salvation and service. Jesus commands us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. That is the standard. Salvation is free through the grace of God through the only begotten Son Jesus Christ. Discipleship is costly and requires service, sacrifice and taking up your cross. Jesus is the only one who's righteousness is enough. The question is does God abandon you to hell when you sin after being saved by His grace? Is the individual saved actually sealed by the Holy Spirit? Are they actually a purchased possession bought with a price? Equating the P of TULIP to OSAS is also a misrepresentation. These men add in their righteousness to their salvation. The ultimately take the gospel and force people to look back on their own works for justification. One sin is a transgression of the whole law. If false teachings were creeping in as early as Paul (Galatians 1:6), don't appeal to "church fathers", appeal to scripture. John 5:24 - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." (John 5:24) John 11:25-26 - "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believes in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?" (John 11:25-26) John 6:47 - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes in me has everlasting life." (John 6:47) Acts 16:31 - "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your household." (Acts 16:31) 1 John 3:23 - "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment." (1 John 3:23) John 8:24 - "I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins." (John 8:24) John 6:29 - "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that you believe on him whom he has sent." (John 6:29) 1 Corinthians 1:21 - "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe." 1 John 5:1 - "Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loves him that begot loves him also that is begotten of him." John 3:15 - "That whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:36 - "He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him." Romans 10:9 - "That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved." Romans 10:10 - "For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Mark 16:16 - "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned." Acts 10:43 - "To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whoever believes in him shall receive remission of sins." 1 John 5:5 - "Who is he that overcomes the world, but he that believes that Jesus is the Son of God?" Romans 4:5 - "But to him that works not, but believes on him that justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Romans 1:16 - "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." John 14:12-14 - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever you shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." 1 John 5:10-13 John 5:24 - "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." Romans 1:16 1 John 5:13 - "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may believe on the name of the Son of God." Romans 11:23 - "And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again."

@Factoreffectsmedia

2 ай бұрын

Great video!!🎉

@stevebegin2489

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@Michael_Chua

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! kzread.infowjvuCnqBpq0?si=a6exwqcZbGVk57EK

@Pressingontoperfection

2 ай бұрын

Who made this or sponsored it?

God will never leave us, but He gives us free will to leave him!!!!

@jesseljones4991

2 күн бұрын

Even if we are faithless He remains faithful.

@theodoreritola7641

Күн бұрын

TELL JESUS CHRIST That he can and will,,, un,,redeem his own after he HAS REDEEMED THEM. .Be aborted please tell the Lord that PLEASE

@theodoreritola7641

Күн бұрын

NEVER BE UN REDEEMED AFTER BEING REDEEMED,

This comment section gives me hope that there are still free grace Christians out there defending the faith.

@Caleb-xf5yn

9 күн бұрын

Yeah, the grace by which I believed, repented and obey to this day was indeed FREE! I wish more people would learn that.

@jedimasterham2

8 күн бұрын

Grace is definitely a free gift from God. These people in the video do not agree with this, and are obsessed with dividing the church for some reason.

@brandonroot7848

8 күн бұрын

@@jedimasterham2 me?

@jedimasterham2

8 күн бұрын

@@brandonroot7848 No, the people in the video are dividing the church.

@brandonroot7848

8 күн бұрын

@@jedimasterham2 I agree to that

Nothing can separate us from the love of God. We belong to him and he will never leave us or forsake us.

@GThePreacher

Ай бұрын

The context of the end of romans 8 was talking about external things not separating us when we go through trial not sin,early in the chapter he shows sin can bring you to death and seperates you,as for never leaving no forsaking us which is quoted from Deuteronomy it is clear he said later in that book if they leave or forsake him he will forsake them. God is willing to always stay in the relationship but if we no longer have faith in our hearts and depart he will not force us to stay,once saved always saved is a lie from Hell clearly not shown in scripture warned against in Jude. Wake up from this terrible doctrine and misuse of scripture and actually watch the documentary, you would never abuse your wife and say "once loved always loved" and expect her to never leave so don't think the same of God

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

Marriage symbolizes the unity of God - the two become one but are still two. As the Trinity cannot be separated so the bond of a marriage should not be broken as Man bears the Image of God. Maybe this is primarily why God hates divorce. But God allows it, nonetheless. As one can divorce his/her spouse so a Believer can divorce God. Both are done by an act of free will. Keep vigilant in your love for your spouse and keep vigilant in your love for God. Faith, love, obedience to his will. Good works are done in love through faith by an act of obedience (free will) for the glory of God and are done for others ("I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was hungry, and you gave me food, naked and you clothed me....").

@inTruthbyGrace

6 күн бұрын

nope... but you can definitely forsake HIM, become unfruitful in faithlessness [Matt 13:18-23] and be cast off like a withered branch [John 15:1-15], as YOU wander from the narrow way [Matt 7:13-27], and in lacking these things of faithfulness, you become blind, and cannot see afar off, and having forgotten you were purged from your old sins [2Pet1:1-9] you neglect the salvation you received.. Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him? “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”

@theodoreritola7641

4 күн бұрын

IF his Child BELIEVES HIM ONLY,

“… if by grace, then it is no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

@christistruth3112

26 күн бұрын

exactly

@jamesenewold8864

25 күн бұрын

Again out of context and again misapplied...

@christistruth3112

24 күн бұрын

@@jamesenewold8864 again you are a fool. out of context 🙄🙄🙄🙄😂. so how about john 3.16. thats clear even to a 2 year old

@IanBartleson

22 күн бұрын

@@jamesenewold8864all he did was quote a verse, didn’t even give an interpretation or anything. Why are you irritated by God’s Word?

@christistruth3112

22 күн бұрын

@@jamesenewold8864 is English your first language?

Philippians 1:6 New King James Version 6" ....being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you WILL complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;"

@inTruthbyGrace

6 күн бұрын

He will complete it if you endure in faithfulness until the end.... but one can absolutely forsake HIM and in lacking the things of faithfulness laid out in 1Pt2:1-11, For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. but he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

@theodoreritola7641

Күн бұрын

SLAP SLAP TO JESUS CHRIST YOU JUST SAID THAT JESUS WILL NOT FINISH REALY ? Does jesus christ EVER ,,,,UN,,, REDEEM HIS OWN ,,,,,AFTER,,, HE HAS REDEEMED THEM Can a born again Christisn be come UN BORN AGAIN ARE YOU BRAVE ENOUGH TO ANSWER THESE QUISTIONS .

The fact that they went straight to the church fathers first and God's word second tells me what I need to know about these people...

@darlae88

17 күн бұрын

They addressed the early church fathers to provide the origins of once saved always saved. It was explained very well. They provided SOOOOO many scriptures to support their claim, way more than I was aware of prior to watching this documentary.

@Eric_Reborn

12 күн бұрын

​@darlae88 Well it was dishonest of them. First of all I'll be honest I'm not 100% sure I'm right about OSAS being true but based off my understanding of scripture to this point the evidence does seem in favor of OSAS being true. I highly recommend you watch Bibleline's 4 part reaction to this documentary where he points out the glaring problems with this documentary. These guys made a lot of strawman arguments time and time again. Now let me give you scriptures for the contrary to support OSAS John 3:16, John 6:37, John 10:27-28, 1 John 2:19, Matthew 7:23 (why did he say "I never knew you" rather than something like "I don't know you anymore"), Hebrews 10:10, Ephesians 1:13 (that's just some of them) Think about this too... Hebrews 6:4-6 is often used against OSAS but think about it... if what it says is interpreted the way people who believe you can lose your salvation interpret it you would have to say that once someone loses their salvation they can't get it back... I don't think people believe that so it doesnt really make sense.

@Eric_Reborn

12 күн бұрын

​@@darlae88 I want you to understand however that I'm not in support of the idea of doing whatever you want after being saved, we need to trust Jesus however the question really is whether or not the holy spirit will make sure we remain in belief or not it seems to me that the holy spirit will make sure we continue to believe and cause us to live out our faith. Not to say we won't make mistakes and stumble along the way but overall we do remain in the faith once we believe is what the scripture appears to teach based off everything I just said. God bless

@sqwearl1392

9 күн бұрын

They start with a quick primer on church history to show where this error came from. It makes perfect sense to set the stage then build to the strongest arguments... Which are the scriptures. It's well over an hour long of scriptures and it's not even the full list.

@Eric_Reborn

9 күн бұрын

@sqwearl1392 I felt like there was a lot of hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty by these guys throughout the entire documentary. Some people in support of OSAS could easily do the same thing arguing that OSAS is true with scriptural support

There is an inescapable conclusion from this film that there are simply those who are capable of continuing to believe and those who just can't quite get it together. How in the world does that not become salvation by merit?

@Misskitty15

Ай бұрын

Because it's by Faith not merit. Jesus says in Rev "Will I find Faith on the earth when I return?"

@EricaCampbell-iv5jj

Ай бұрын

@@Misskitty15 Define "Faith", please.

@EricaCampbell-iv5jj

Ай бұрын

In addition, explain the "it" in "it's by Faith".

@Misskitty15

Ай бұрын

@@EricaCampbell-iv5jj "Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen. Heb 11:1 For examples of faith read the whole chapter. In other words, faith is believing what you can't see because you believe in the One who promised.

@ericfarmer7674

Ай бұрын

Which is not of yourselves... Ephesians 2:8. We can't WILL ourselves to have more faith. God works in us to give us the faith and that is what we respond to for a clean conscience. But the debate of free will and God's sovereignty is definitely a debated subject for a long time. He won't force our will to match His... but he will draw us to it by the Holy Spirit.

I trust in Christ alone for my salvation , ALL glory to God!!

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

*Luke 8:13* “And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.”

@ChurchPhone1769

2 ай бұрын

@dailylight3652 AMEN!! It's His merit not mine!!

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@donkilluminati123 Now read Romans 8:13.

@DonKilluninati

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 Romans 8:13 is not a salvation passage, nor is it a you can lose your salvation passage either. Romans 8:14: "For if ye live after the flesh [having sex, being a drunk, living a reckless life, etc.], ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Where does it say you can lose salvation here?

'I do not run aimlessly, nor do I box by beating the air with my fists. But I discipline my body harshly, and bring it into subjection; for I fear lest, after preaching to others, I myself should be cast away' (1 Cor. 9:26-27).

@vickyannpaintingwithoils

2 ай бұрын

"I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means*, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." Paul is eternally saved, speaking to eternally saved brethren. He was very careful during his ministry, including working wherever he lodged, so as not to be seen by men as insincere, even though God allowed him to be supported, he insisted to do it himself. In this passage he is also pointing out that he fights the sin inside himself so to be seen by men as worthy, and not a hypocrite counterfeit while preaching the saving grace Gospel of the Lord God Jesus Christ. He is not talking about being castaway from God. Context matters.

@clayw70

2 ай бұрын

@vickyannpaintingwithoils Paul talks about not running aimlessly and disciplining his body. The context is that he could be disqualified from the race even though he was a person preaching the gospel. After that example, in chapter 10, Paul uses the Israelites as examples of them falling away. Under the Old Covenant, the people could fall away, it's the same under the New Covenant. That's his whole point. That's why he is warning them about idolatry in chapters 8 - 10.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@vickyannpaintingwithoilsThis is a major stretch.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@vickyannpaintingwithoils *Luke 8:13* “And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.”

@sssro11

2 ай бұрын

What butchered Bible version is this?

Phil 1:6 God doesnt start something, he can't finish...

@susansitkauskas7263

2 ай бұрын

But He never takes away your free will so if you choose to disconnect from the Vine, you can.

@kyleboone1242

Ай бұрын

That's not what the verse says. Further, he warns the Galatians of this very danger of not finishing well. Galatians 5:7 You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? Philippians 3 For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him...12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own... 16 Only let us hold true to what we have attained...18 For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ.

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

No but you can by an act of free will plus the deceitfulness of sin and pride.

@japheth7000

Ай бұрын

Phil 1:6 is not unconditional. The condition of Phil 1:6 is Phil 1:5, fellowship in the gospel.

@eternalinsecurity

Ай бұрын

Correct, He, start to finish laid out a path for us to walk, called salvation. The path is complete, and now we must follow it.

You would be disappointed if your child was not growing but he would still be your child.

@motivatingu2win

2 ай бұрын

Question, is it your child? DNA tests proves if a child belongs to the father, living willfully in sin PROVES a child of darkness. No 'born again' follower of Jesus Christ will continue to willfully sin against God....Galatians 5:17-21 tells us EXACTLY what we must turn away from. Paul challenged the Corinthians to test themselves to see if they were REALLY in the faith, 2Corinthians 13:5

@fordhughes

2 ай бұрын

@@motivatingu2win incorrect. A child of God is born freely of his grace by the receiving of Christ Jesus as Lord. No works. No boasting. One of the worse sins you can be found guilty of as a child of God is the sin of self righteousness. The facts are that you sin often and with repetition throughout your very own day. As you mentioned though in Gal 5, believers are not identified by the sins of their flesh as a result of their having been set freely spiritually. This is known as the circumcision made without hands as taught in Colossians 2. This presentation is works salvation through and through being deceitfully disguised as exhortation/sanctification.

@RepentAndTrustInJesus

2 ай бұрын

**”Once saved, always saved” refuted** CAN A CHRISTIAN FALL AWAY? CHRISTIANS (those truly "saved to begin with") CAN: 1. Depart from the faith (1 Tim. 4:1) 2. Wander away from the faith (1 Tim. 6:10) 3. Swerve from the faith (1 Tim. 6:21) 4. Abandon our faith (1 Tim. 5:12) 5. Make shipwreck of our faith (1 Tim. 1:19) 6. Fall from grace (Gal. 5:4) 7. Desert him who called you and turn to a different gospel (Gal. 1:6) 8. Receive the grace of God in vain (2 Cor. 6:1) 9. Swerve from the truth, upsetting the faith of some (2 Tim. 2:18) 10. Drift away from the truth (Heb. 2:1) 11. Have an evil, unbelieving heart, leading us to fall away from the living God (Heb. 3:12) 12. Be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin (Heb. 3:12-14) 13. Fail to reach the promise of entering into His rest (Heb. 4:1) 14. Fall by disobedience to enter His rest (Heb. 4:11) 15. Fall away and impossible to restore unto repentance (Heb. 6:4-6) 16. Deliberately go on sinning and no longer have a sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26-27) 17. Shrink back (Heb. 10:38) 18. Fail to obtain the grace of God (Heb. 12:15) 19. Wander from the truth (James 5:19-20) 20. Forsake the right way (2 Peter 2:15) 21. Become entangled and overcome AFTER having escaped them (2 Peter 2:20-21) 22. Be carried away with the error of lawless people and lose our stability (2 peter 3:17) 23. Commit a sin leading to death (1 John 5:16) 24. Stop abiding in the teaching of Christ (2 John 1:9) 25. Be taken out of the book of life (Revelation 22:19) 26. Be not forgiven by the Father (Matthew 6:14-15) 27. Be thrown in with the unbelievers (Luke 12:46) 28. Perform miracles and still be rejected by Jesus (Matthew 7:21-28) 29. Be condemned for not walking in the Spirit (Romans 8:1/8:13) 30. Be spewed out by Jesus for being lukewarm (Revelation 3:15-17)

@ChurchPhone1769

2 ай бұрын

@@fordhughes AMEN! AMEN!

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@fordhughesLuke 8:13.

Just as a good student strives for an A and not a F. So too should Christians everywhere strive for perfection in our faith. Even if we don't achieve it on this side of eternity, we should still strive for it. Philippians 3:13-14 NKJV "Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus."

@JR-yj8ig

Ай бұрын

Salvation is a free gift not a prize. There is nothing humble or truly honest about the works approach to salvation.

@EthnosSynergyEnergy

Ай бұрын

@@JR-yj8ig Have you never heard of the saying, "Nothing in life is free"?. Salvation comes at a cost to all parties involved. To God: His Son. To Jesus: His Life. To Christians: Our Lifelong Allegiance.

@randyd9805

Ай бұрын

@@EthnosSynergyEnergy What you said is a lie, not based on a single word in the Bible. You made it up. The Bible repeatedly and very clearly states that salvation is the FREE GIFT of God and we can add nothing to it. You don't get saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and then keep yourself saved by how you live. You do not understand even the concept that salvation is all of GRACE. Your lifelong allegiance is not saving you or even helping to save you. No good works or deeds you do will get you one fraction of an inch toward heaven and eternal life. You are living in a works-based salvation just like the men in the above video. If you are a saved man, meaning you have been truly born again by faith in Christ, you are not now keeping yourself in God's favor. It just doesn't work that way.

@EthnosSynergyEnergy

Ай бұрын

@@randyd9805 Actually Randy, the Bible says that we must add works to our Faith, in order for that faith it to be valid and active, ‭James 2:20-24 NKJV‬ "But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only."

@randyd9805

Ай бұрын

@@EthnosSynergyEnergy You are deliberately mishandling the scripture. You already know of the passage in Romans 4 which clearly states that Abraham was justified BEFORE GOD by faith alone. The justification in James is not for salvation from sin's penalty but is CLEARLY about our being justified before MEN, not God, by our good works. Unsaved people can "act good" and do good works and millions of them do, thinking that is enough to get them into heaven. Are you one of them? It sure sounds to me like you are trying to justify YOURSELF before God by your own righteousness, which the Bible repeatedly and very clearly states is not possible. You are only justified before God by your faith in His Son's sacrifice. If you don't believe that or know that, you have never been born again. God will not save a self-righteous person who thinks their good deeds or lawkeeping saves them. Again, do you know that salvation is ONLY by grace through faith, not of works, lest any man should boast? God knows your heart and whether or not you have believed in Jesus Christ ALONE for salvation. Men cannot see your heart, only what you DO in their sight. This is the justification before me in James.

Eternal Life is a promise given to everyone who put they Trust the Son, so if you can lose that life after 5 or 10 years after getting it, the only conclusion we can come to is that that was not Eternal life because Eternal life will not last and that is the promise for in Christ. If you can lose it that means you didn't possess it either at the first.

For by Grace are ye Saved, that Not of yourselves, it is a Gift of God!! ...plus im Sealed by the Holy Spirit who lives in me, and he is our Guarantee til the day of our Redemption❤

What some people forget is that once we believe in Jesus and the gospel we are 'marked' with the Holy Spirit (Eph.1:13) who begins the sanctification process and does not stop until the job is finished. (Phil.1:6) God/Jesus always keeps His promise to NEVER leave us nor forsake us! That word 'never' includes anytime we think or claim we are leaving Him. He is faithful to bring back every lost sheep.

Salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ alone. Not of works lest anyone should boast

@Antonio.R.O.C.

2 ай бұрын

🕊️The following is the truth many refuse to accept: Jesus⬇️ 🕊️”Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:34-46 The Apostles⬇️ 🕊️“If the dough offered as first fruits is holy, so is the whole batch; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, a wild olive shoot, were grafted in their place to share the richness of the olive tree, do not boast over the branches. If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you. You will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast only through faith. So do not become proud, but stand in awe. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.” Romans 11:16-21 Was Jesus along with the Apostles lying❓Its a simple yes or no answer❗️ 🕊️”Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from the Evil One.” Matthew 5:37

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

Luke 8:13.

@eddw3

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 Luke 8:13 talks about those who fall away(apostates) during tests, trials and temptations. As long as your foundation is GENUINELY and FIRMLY rooted in Christ Jesus alone, you will endure in patience and it’s a lifelong response to the Word of God. Yes We’re called to bear fruit, but works and individual self-righteousness CANNOT save you or me. Only believing in Christ’s finished work on the cross will. I hope that explains the Context of that verse

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@eddw3 They received the gospel with joy and believed, according to the scripture. Meaning if belief alone saves, they were saved. Yet the verse says they fell away, clearly signifying that they lost their salvation.

@TevitaKefufollowerofChrist

2 ай бұрын

Continue on to verse 10. Dont just stop at verse 9. “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭10‬ Why have we been given the new heart, new desires and new mind? So that we may “WALK” in them. We’ve been created in Jesus for good works! We are His workmanship. That’s what the power of the Holy Spirit is for to help us all for God to be glorified.

A very needed documentary for Christians. An eye opener and sobering. Watched it with my entire family. We were all moved.

@christophe_li

2 ай бұрын

I’ll be praying for you and your family to come to the truth of the gospel.

@dannymcmullan9375

2 ай бұрын

That's very sad because what they are saying is a lie. This "documentary" is full of untrue and misleading information. Please research the many rebuttal videos that have already come out.

@99kakaman

2 ай бұрын

@@christophe_li It doesn't make sense how you have two groups of christians here, ones who think its okay to sin, and the others who say its not okay to sin... I guess the answer lies in what Jesus came to do.. To set the captives free. From what exactly? I'll let you take the guess, or will you live in denial.

@christophe_li

2 ай бұрын

@@99kakaman no. Neither of us think it’s ok to sin. One of us thinks that salvation is a gift from God with no strings attached as clearly stated in 👉Romans 6:23 kjv and is only received by believing on the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus alone apart from any works or from turning from any sin). (The saving gospel 👉1 Cor 15 1-4 KJV) one of us believes that we are sealed until the day of redemption when we hear, believe, and trust the gospel according to Ephesians 1:13 & 4:30 kjv. One of us believes that there are carnal Christians who are saved 👉1 Corinthians 3:1-3 kjv. And one of us knows that ministers of satan will be disguised as people who preach holiness and having good works 👉 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 KJV One of us actually takes Jesus’s promise to heart regarding eternal security. 👉 John 11:25-26 King James Version 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall 👉never die👈. Believest thou this?

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

2 ай бұрын

BEWARE: They have set up this STRAWMAN called OSAS to debunk it and promote this their HERESY. MATTHEW 7:15 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The documentary mistakenly equivocates OSAS with licentiousness. The security of the believer is not a licence to sin. One can hold to OSAS and sanctification. They aren't mutually exclusive.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

The parable of the unforgiving servant refutes OSAS.

@tsines3

2 ай бұрын

​​@@catholictruth102No it doesn't. It separates the Kingdom of heaven from the way the world operates. The point is Israel's leaders are not in the kingdom and will have to repent of their unforgiveness.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@tsines3 It shows God can give someone forgiveness then revoke it.

@tsines3

2 ай бұрын

​@@catholictruth102You're a position without a text friend

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@tsines3 How’s that? If God said He’d treat us like how the master treated the servant in the parable, and the servant had his forgiveness revoked, why would you assume you cannot also have your forgiveness revoked?

Titus 2:11-14 KJV For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, [12] Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; [13] Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; [14] Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

In 1 John it mentions " these things have I written on you that you may know that you have eternal life".. John 6 says he that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out..

@dannodoesfunthings8100

2 ай бұрын

​@@drjanitor3747how do you stay saved?

@Fehrfamilyhomestead

2 ай бұрын

@oshea2300 Amen! Eternal security is Biblical and there are many passages that support it.

@777atys6

2 ай бұрын

@@dannodoesfunthings8100 we stay saved by the one who saved us very easy to understand unless we deny the blood that Jesus shed at the Cross for the forgiveness of all our sins

@dannodoesfunthings8100

2 ай бұрын

@@777atys6 well, you can't forfeit your salvation then.

@777atys6

2 ай бұрын

@@dannodoesfunthings8100 NO, we can't forfeit the salvation of the Lord!

Once saved, actually saved since eternity.

@inTruthbyGrace

6 күн бұрын

no. you were dead in your trespasses and sins in which you previously walked according to the ways of this world, according to the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit now working in the disobedient. We too ALL previously lived among them in our fleshly desires, carrying out the inclinations of our flesh and thoughts, and we were by nature children under wrath as the others were also. But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love that he had for us, made us alive with Christ even though we were dead in trespasses.... You are not eternal... the ONLY one God knew "since eternity" is Jesus... _your_ name got written in the book of life since *_the foundation of the world_* that means since the day the world was founded (not before) and not "since eternity"... BIG BIG BIG DIFFERENCE... your name can very easily be blotted out from the book of life (Rev 3:5)

Thank GOD, and thank you dear brothers and sisters of this holy production. 🕊️🔥 HE certainly used you all for the good of HIS Kingdom. 🙌🏽❤️

JUST 1 MINUTE INTO THIS VIDEO AND I SEE A BUNCH OF WOLVES HERE!!!

The sad truth is, Christ has saved them completely & sealed them w the spirit , and instead of enjoying it , they’re convinced they gotta help Jesus get them to finish line?

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

You are correct! This documentary is trash!

@wordoftruth8173

4 күн бұрын

ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED??? All this debate over OSAS would be done away if we would accept the biblical teaching on salvation. No one alive and breathing in their natural body is saved. We have the hope of salvation. We have the hope of eternal life. The seed of life is placed in us at the moment we come to faith in Christ. That seed is called: The earnest of our inheritance The Spirit of life in Christ Jesus The promise of the Father The anointing The Comforter The Spirit of Truth. All we have now is the hope of salvation. We cannot lose our salvation because we don't have it. We have the earnest(down payment or guarantee) but we've not been to the closing table. We're saved by grace through FAITH. Faith is the substance of things HOPED for. We are saved by HOPE: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet HOPE for? But if we HOPE for that we see not, then do we with patience, WAIT for it(salvation). Being NOW justified by his blood, we SHALL(future) be saved from wrath through him. ...BEING reconciled, we SHALL be saved by his life. But let us who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of FAITH and love and for an helmet, the HOPE of salvation. And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation NEARER than when we first believed. And unto them that look for him SHALL he appear the second time without sin UNTO salvation. Who are kept by the power of God THROUGH faith UNTO salvation ready TO BE revealed in the last time. Receiving the END of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. We are saved by GRACE through faith. Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and HOPE to the end for the GRACE that is TO BE BROUGHT UNTO you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. ...that the spirit MAY be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. Brethren, the scriptures are clear, he which hath BEGUN a good work in us will perform it UNTIL the day Jesus Christ. We are saved by grace THROUGH faith and we will be presented holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: IF we CONTINUE in the FAITH and be not moved away from the HOPE of the gospel. Brethren, our salvation is future. He has begun the work but it's not complete or finished. He will perform that work in us only if we CONTINUE in the faith, which, is to continue in his word. Our Lord said to those that believed on him: "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth SHALL(future) make you free." It is appointed unto man once to die, but AFTER this the JUDGEMENT. We must all appear before the JUDGEMENT seat of Christ. Our eternity is established(settled or finalized)at JUDGEMENT . Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the FOUNDATION of…eternal JUDGEMENT. We are for once and always saved when we stand before the JUDGEMENT seat of Christ. Keep the faith Brethren, Shane Shaddix groundoftruth.org “But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall STAND when he APPEARETH?”

Jude 1:24-25 (KJV) "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, to the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen"

We must solely go by what the Bible teaches... no tradition, no man's belief or preference, just what the Bible teaches...

@dexterlaurencejnr5293

2 ай бұрын

They just showed like ten verses though…

@JohnK557

2 ай бұрын

@@dexterlaurencejnr5293Can you give me one verse that says a person can’t stop having faith or believing? There are many that warn believers not to.

@Fillahsofee101

2 ай бұрын

Can you give me a verse that tells me which verses are the Bible?

@theWordofGodMinistries777

2 ай бұрын

​@@dexterlaurencejnr5293 THERE IS COUNTLESS SCRIPTURES

@rickmelhuish1602

2 ай бұрын

John 10:27-30 [27]My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; [28]and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. [29]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. [30]I and the Father are one."

I wish the leaders of Bible Study Fellowship would reject Calvinism and return to proclaiming scripture. I was a teaching leader for 7 years and was summarily dismissed as teaching leader the moment I spoke out against “once saved, always saved.”

@JannLambert-dd2ql

Ай бұрын

I am faithful . Our God is almighty

@daletrade5178

Ай бұрын

you will ALWAYS see a complete lack of focus on regeneration and justification, that happen in an instant in time, in these type of discussions

@user-of1hd2dy1t

Ай бұрын

When will YOU lose your Salvation? Tomorrow...next week...Months from now...a year from now..when?

@TheNomadicVoyager

Ай бұрын

@@user-of1hd2dy1twhat kind of question is that? YOU will lose your salvation when/if you turn away from the truth that Christ proclaimed and no longer walk in faithfulness.

@cba4389

Ай бұрын

You should have been fired for denying Romans 4:16. At least, there are still some good churches that dismiss heretics.

eternal security...the only way to truly serve the Lord without expecting something in return...

You must be Born Again. When you are Born Again, the holy Spirit of God produces godly living in us. Human effort to do and be good always falls short. Only Christ in us, the hope of glory. If you do not have God living inside of you, then you cannot live holy. We do not act good to get to heaven. We act godly because we are going to heaven. It's a huge difference. It's God in us, causing us to walk in His ways!

@thomashummer7774

Ай бұрын

>>>and this is the best evidence that we are saved forever. Salvation, once gained through faith, by grace, cannot be lost. It does not mean that we are sinless, nor does it mean that we remain as we were before conversion. The Holy Spirit is the part of us that is holy

All I can say is if you ever sin again and lose your salvation you can never get it back so you better never sin again. According to some of these jokers. Why did Christ die for your sins?

@eternalinsecurity

Ай бұрын

Show us the verses where it says that if you commit one sin again, that you lose your salvation, and then we will look at it thus. But according to the Bible, living in sin, affects the heart and mind, believer or nonbeliever alike, and the result is a harder heart, believer or nonbeliever. It is cause and effect. No where do we teach a sinless life, because that is against what first John teaches. But does your religious teaching include, that to willfully sin, will make you more blind to spiritual things?

@K.O.tyranny

Ай бұрын

@@eternalinsecurity sure, that would be James 2:10 KJV FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW, AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE IS GUILTY OF ALL. GAL 5:4 KJV CHRIST IS BECOME OF NO EFFECT UNTO YOU, WHOSOEVER OF YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE. HEB 6: 4-6 KJV FOR IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE WHO WERE ONCE ENLIGHTENED, AND HAVE TASTED OF THE HEAVENLY GIFT, AND WERE MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST, AND HAVE TASTED THE GOOD WORD OF GOD, AND THE POWERS OF THE WORLD TO COME, IF THEY SHALL FALL AWAY, TO RENEW THEM AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE; SEEING THEY CRUCIFY TO THEMSELVES THE SON OF GOD AFRESH, AND PUT HIM TO AN OPEN SHAME.

@K.O.tyranny

Ай бұрын

@@eternalinsecurity so looks like to me that if you're going to live by the law you'd better be keeping the whole law because GRACE no longer applies. ROM 11:6 We can not bundle law, works and grace in the same package because the blood of Jesus separated salvation from the law and works. Salvation is by grace through faith. EPH 2:8-9 KJV and once received we are sealed by GOD. EPH 1:13-14 KJV. So that if God should ever break that seal that He alone can break, then there is no coming back to repentance. So in keeping the law you must keep the whole law. But if by grace, then it is no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. Pretty sure God knew all your sin past, present and future before He saved you as He has foreknowledge in all things and knew you before you were conceived and has numbered the hairs of your head. Matt 10:29-31. KJV JER 1:5 KJV.

@Yeetmcyeets

Ай бұрын

Yeah Arminians have a hard time accepting the reality that they in it of themselves cannot save themselves. If you need to hold onto your salvation to be saved then you’re prideful in thinking you can do it . Also think of this a bad tree does not produce good fruit .

@GThePreacher

Ай бұрын

This is what we call straw man created by decievers in order to misrepresent your opposing view and make them look bad,Hebrews 3 is clear sin leads to unbelief and unbelief is what leads to falling away,faith connects you to God so if there is no more faith=unbelief then you are no longer in christ, If you continue in sin it will lead to an appetite to love sin and hate God no man can serve 2 masters and you will choose to not believe anymore and fall away

The best video/teachings from Non-Catholic Preachers... Hope this will unite all the believers of Christ for we are under ONE body whose Head is Christ...

@jedimasterham2

8 күн бұрын

They don't believe in faith alone. They engage in double talk (lying), and promote works-salvation while pretending to reject works salvation.

For many years, I believed in the once saved always saved, and because of that I never feared the Lord which is why I didn't have the wisdom to understand the truth of His word.

@roseviolet4147

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for expressing this. I see many who believe in OSAS who lack a fear of YHVH; and therefore do not seek or worship in truth.

@ernestbailey6617

Ай бұрын

It was in you're head and not in you're heart

@LeonTheLion-777

Ай бұрын

Exactly .. and it’s also common to see them justifying their sins

@Moody7561

Ай бұрын

@@LeonTheLion-777that’s a LIE.

If we're not forgiving of our future sins then the reality is we're always in a state of unforgiveness, I am never in a constant state of perfection... That will happen at glorification... If you do not believe your future sins are forgiven then I don't know how you would ever feel like you are forgiven for even a second.

@LeonTheLion-777

Ай бұрын

If your future sins are forgiven already then There’s no need to ask for forgiveness and that would make Jesus’ teaching heretical

@foxecarpentress4964

Ай бұрын

You should be working on being Holy, with Jesus and reading scriptures everyday and praying for power from Him to do what it says or obeying what it says to Do. If you are doing the Good Deeds the Lord prepared for you to do with Him, after you are Born Again, then you won’t have time or energy to act wickedly or do Lawlessness or behaving ungodly. I was a Christian, I thought, when Jesus Spoke to me and Said I was going to have to go to Hell, for Pride, Fornication and your Sins. I didn’t really understand what any of those WORDS MEANT, so He Told me to go look them up in The Old Family Dictionary that ended up at my house. I encourage you to look them up! This happened in 1988. The only reason I’m still here is because I did as He asked and repented and CHANGED to learn to Do Jesus’s Will and not my Self Seeking anymore…… I hope you make it into His Kingdom of Love and Peace. It takes sacrifice and discipline to turn from the way of the flesh and this world.

@robertimanuel3413

Ай бұрын

@@LeonTheLion-777 what if his refering to ask for forgiveness because your sins affect you on earth , like you struggle with a sin and it backlashes you , you know god punishes his childrean right because they miss behave? chastise scourge , even death?

@marka1712

Ай бұрын

I personally believe the truth is somewhere in between. I think both sides go to the extreme which I don’t think is accurate. When repenting and becoming saved by God’s grace through Jesus Christ sacrifice your past and future sins are forgiven and your salvation is not at stake for making mistakes and sinning in the future. But when you sin you repent and ask forgiveness as you are condemned by the knowledge given you by the Holy Spirit in your heart. You know you did wrong and you feel the guilt and shame and need to be forgiven for it anew. Where I am not so sure is the giving away your salvation through your actions and heart, both ways make sense to me in that God could let you walk away if you chose but also I can see where God would not allow a human to have that power once given to Him through salvation. The Bible is very difficult to understand especially in a translated language because we don’t know how accurate the translation is based on multiple meanings of words. I have always believed that much of the debating is irrelevant and doesn’t matter if we totally understand each thing as much as understanding the way to salvation and the way to live in God’s will. If you are truly saved I don’t see how you could change back and allow yourself to be unsaved if that is possible. I feel shame and guilt for saying something in anger or frustration so I can’t imagine how I’d turn evil enough to warrant losing salvation because I wouldn’t be able to fall that far from God. Just my thoughts as a “normy” with no theology training or anything like that.

@andrewb8809

Ай бұрын

Scripture says we ought to walk just as Christ walked, friend. There are two reasons for remaining in sin after receiving the gospel: Such a person either loves pleasure rather than God or they deny the power of God that can make them holy. The Holy Spirit is He who makes holy. Scripture says whoever continues to practice sin is a liar and does not know Jesus. If we fall, we are to confess and repent, not make excuses to continue wallowing in the mire.

If you can lose your salvation, you will. “To the one who does not work but believes his faith is credited to him as righteousness” Roman’s 4:5

@Ancient-Paths

2 ай бұрын

@JoshuaGipson96 “I will give to each of you according to your works ... Blessed are those who DO His commandments" (Rev. 2:23; 22:14). "Faith apart from works is dead" (James 2:26). "Whoever says 'I know Him' but does not keep His commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps His word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in Him: whoever says he abides in Him ought to walk in the same way in which He walked.. Everyone who practices righteousness has been born of Him" (1 John 2:4-6,29). "Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. Whoever abides in Him DOES NOT SIN. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. (1 John 3:4-6). Obeying Christ is not earning your salvation (which was free) it is committing to a life of faith and obedience in Christ.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

Romans 11:22.

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 Stop quoting scripture, you have no understanding of it being a catholic. The mystery of God and God works in mysterious ways is a catholics concept but God reveals the truth to us who are saved and who seek Him and His Kingdom. There are no mysteries or hidden truths with God. 33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." MATTHEW 6:33

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@AgeOfNefarious_Deception Explain Romans 11:22 instead of attacking my faith.

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 Yeah, I don't see many people understand this. It means to reject Jesus Christ (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit/unforgivable/unpardonable sin) once you have been truly saved and given the gift of the Holy Spirit. You are then cut off from the olive tree and bundle up for the fire. This is how my theology and understanding differ from the OSAS theology in this documentary.

The problem with those who believe we can lose our salvation is that they actually believe that eternal security/OSAS is believed by people who only want a license to sin. Maybe not all of them believe that, but this is a very common accusation we hear constantly.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

Luke 8:13.

@morghe321

2 ай бұрын

​@@catholictruth102what's that got to do with my comment?

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@morghe321 It refutes OSAS. If one can receive the gospel message with joy and believe, then fell away, how can one be once saved always saved?

@AfricanSheep

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 people keep telling you in numerous comments if you have no root, you were not saved to begin with.

@Dizerner

2 ай бұрын

One can believe a false doctrine with sincere intentions. However it is still harmful overall in its influence.

There are so many comments on here with people 'angrily' condemning the people in this video and it's very sad. I don't agree with every minor point made, but the message is true. Their railing against it actually shows their hatred for truth and the exaltation of their man-made doctrines over what Christ and His apostles taught. Calling "truth" heresy is sad because it means that you really do not know the Gospel Jesus preached and are believing in a different one.

@BlackAxeDayTrading

2 ай бұрын

What has happened is a bunch of OSAS people have made their own cuts of this video in efforts to dispute it and commenters are coming from those videos and not even watching it. Much less reading the Word for themselves.

@firstandthelast

2 ай бұрын

Amen. Beautifully said. This has been my experience. The one’s claiming you can never lose your salvation are usually the lukewarm half in half out rapture type, and as soon as you put a finger on their idol you can see another spirit manifest.

@derekhallett8756

2 ай бұрын

TELL'EM

@derekhallett8756

2 ай бұрын

​@@firstandthelast Truth

@GThePreacher

2 ай бұрын

not man made doctrines but Satan made doctrines

1 Timothy 4:1 KJV - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM THE FAITH, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

@DannyLoyd

2 ай бұрын

@@donkilluminati123 1 John 1:7 deals with that, " If we walk in the light as he is in the light the blood of Christ cleanses us from all our sins..." but those who believe in OSAS do not believe you have to walk in the light, you can walk in darkness and still be saved. It also tells in 1 John 1 to confess our sins .....you might want to take the time to read it. Also Romans 6, those who have been baptized into Christ have been freed from sin v7 and it says in v6 " our old self was crucified with Jesus so that the sinful body might be destroyed...." this happens when you have been baptized into Christ, read also Col 2:12-14

@firstandthelast

2 ай бұрын

@@donkilluminati123Way to take that scripture out of context.

@bride4jesus0126

2 ай бұрын

Never HAD the faith dummy. True believers NEVER DEPART

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

@@firstandthelast How is it out of context? It is pretty plain unless it bothers your personal doctrine.

So glad you had bro Leonard Ravenhill. What a powerful preacher he was.

@RedeemedWeemucks

15 күн бұрын

Great preacher of a works based fear centred truth denying different gospel

@aussie1602

11 күн бұрын

@@RedeemedWeemucks Unlike a systematic born of manicheanism right?!?! not known before Augustine...

We are saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9). We are kept by the power of God through faith (1 Peter 1:5). Where there is no faith, there can be no salvation. Where there is no faith, there can be no preservation (keeping).

“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬, ‭27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Glad that i believe in preserverance of the saints, that teaches instead that Christ will keep all the people He saves in Him, which means following Him and bearing fruits. If we could lose our salvation, we would.

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

That is an innovation of the Reformation not a belief held by the Early Church. Like Sola Scripture which the Reformation itself disproves by its development of sectarianism and eventually denominationalism.

@rolygonzalez2374

Ай бұрын

@@leoandolino4668 zzzzzxthe life life

@juliajumel2382

Ай бұрын

There are numerous verses about names being blotted out of the Book of Life. While God says no one can pluck you out of the Father's hand, that doesn't exempt individuals from personal accountability. Claiming a higher standard is reserved for saints is merely an excuse for complacency. Saints and believers alike are held to the same standard, as Paul emphasizes in striving for excellence. It's disrespectful to settle for the bare minimum when Christ endured excruciating suffering for us. Christ's sacrifice wasn't for us to merely scrape by, but to transform our hearts and minds. We're called to imitate God and actively participate in our salvation journey, not just passively believe. Aligning with God requires diligent effort, not just lip service. It's time to stop deceiving ourselves and put in the necessary work to cultivate true faith and obedience.

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

@@juliajumel2382 Well stated.

@juliajumel2382

Ай бұрын

@@leoandolino4668 Thank you, I liked your comment as well. 🥰

”When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us ALL our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.“ ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2‬:‭13‬-‭14‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

@markrogers7546

2 ай бұрын

Amen! The Word says it all!!

@markrogers7546

2 ай бұрын

Amen!! It's God's work, God's grace!

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

The KJV is a better Bible! No Christian is sinless, and no Christian will ever be sinless while alive on earth, for we are all in a sin-nature body that is fallen from perfection and has at its foundation sin. So you are not saved because you stop sinning, or because you live a certain way, but rather because the blood of Jesus washes away all your sins-this is the only reason you are saved! And it is once saved always saved! For your actions cannot grant you eternal life!

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

The issue is people against OSAS think proponents of this doctrine are the people that say “well I’m saved…so i can go on and keep sinning.” When that’s not even the case, those people have a seared conscience. I found myself living more Godly (less sin) NATURALLY once i stopped being so introspective and worrying about what I’m doing wrong or not doing enough. To understand the message of osas you need to understand the audience…and i believe many of you don’t. Which is why yall are so quick to bash it. We’re not saying you shouldn’t strive to be Christlike. But there are born again believers everywhere constantly checking themselves into a pit of turmoil and doubt. The message of osas is for the believers who are trying but think it’s still in vain. And the people that come against OSAS are the exact reason they fall into this turmoil. Let the Holy Spirit work naturally in you and slow down a bit. You are a new creation and HE IS FINISHING WHAT HE STARTED IN YOU. Be blessed.

@eternalinsecurity

Ай бұрын

Thank God that some OSAS adherents are pursuing the Lord, and this is what we would expect. They are learning, following, witnessing, striving, etc... to walk after Christ. But we know from the sermon on the mount, that most Christians seem to face much trouble in producing fruit, and as such, do not need to be taught "opinions" about what the Bible states that could have them leaning falsely on a position that will later crumble underneath their grasp. Here is what I mean, those pursuing Christ in the eternal security position teach OSAS to others, and depending upon their fruit, then classify them as saved or unsaved. But those ingesting OSAS don't measure their fruit on whether they are saved or not, they just measure things by, do I believe in OSAS or not, and as such there is a HUGE DISCONNECT. The OSAS teachers think most followers are unsaved because of their actions, while most followers think they are saved because of the teachings they believe, so then who is correct? With right Bible teaching, one knows clearly where they stand, teacher or follower.

@alexenglish4585

Ай бұрын

@@eternalinsecurity thanks for the comment, but i guess im having a hard time understanding what you’re asserting exactly? My apologies. But my entire point is that if you stand in OSAS as a means to continue in sin without remorse, you’re wrong. But i don’t believe OSAS teachers are speaking to these people with a seared conscience, but they are speaking to the believers who do bear fruit and do have evidence of ongoing sanctification, but the Pharisees come along and try to say that if they’re not performing to a certain standard, their faith is not valid and they aren’t actually born again. This causes many saved believers to begin to doubt in the finished work of Christ and begin ruminating and trying to earn their way into Gods favor out of fear instead of resting and trusting that He is at work and He’s completed the most important work of all already. This is a clear tactic of the devil to get us to believe our salvation is in anything else but Jesus. Thus, bring in the “Lord Lord” people. This is who they are. “Look at what I’ve done!” Not “have mercy on me, your law is perfect and without you i have no inheritance.” This is not and has never been an effective method of teaching. And this is a huge huge mistake in the body of Christ. Now, the Holy Spirit is the biggest thing here, there’s a supernatural process taking place within us that we cannot see if the Holy Spirit is truly manifest. The believer with Jesus in their heart will inevitably move away from sin more and more because of the holy spirits work, not by their own effort. It’s a seamless transition. My issue with the people against OSAS is that they are so quick to throw stones and make projections based i their own convictions. “You do x, y, z? You’re not saved, you don’t do x, y, z? You’re not saved.” This is what Jesus was talking about when the Jews would go to them for assistance but leave with an even bigger burden than before. They try to use their knowledge of God to put others down instead of speaking life into people. The body of Christ needs to come together, make allowance for each others faults and see that a Christian that’s STRUGGLING with sin is in the right headspace. The minute once stops struggling against sin, is when the conscience is seared. We believe in the finished work of Christ and that He is doing the work in us, if he gives us grace when we slip up, why can’t we have grace on ourselves? It’s a struggle out here and we’re trying, one persons trying may look different than another’s. But that don’t mean Jesus isn’t in their heart if they’re not as sanctified as another believer just yet.

Excellent! Amen!! And to those who disagree I commend the quote at 19:25 "look at what the text says, quit trying to explain it away in view of a theology you want to uphold, uphold the Word of God and change your theology." Conditional security is supported by direct teaching in numerous books, by every NT author, by parables (eg the sower) and biblical examples (eg. Saul). It is a teaching in both the OT and the NT.

the amount of mental gymnastics these people use to justify works based salvation.. You are saved by your faith only! No matter how many works you do, you can't save yourself.

@jedimasterham2

8 күн бұрын

Just a quick and respectful correction. We should write saved "through faith," not 'by faith." The latter "by faith" implies faith has power to save. We're justified by faith, and saved by God's grace through faith.

@catholictruth102

2 күн бұрын

Not by faith alone (James 2:24).

@shashamylife

2 күн бұрын

@@catholictruth102 James 2: 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. This is talking about justification among men. Since we are Christians, we are called to do works for the will of God. That does not affect out eternal salvation as you can see in verse 23.

@catholictruth102

2 күн бұрын

@@shashamylife What? Did you even read the very own verses you’ve pasted? It’s speaking of Abraham being seen as righteous before God, not before man. Then James 2:24 comes immediately after. The immediate context is justification before God.

@shashamylife

2 күн бұрын

@@catholictruth102 Yes he is righteous before God because of his faith in God. He is justified before men, by his works. The whole context of James chapter 2 is for Christians to live Christian lives.

powerfully articulated!

The flesh is week and if we are able to firgive our children how much more does God love us

When the lust of the eyes comes, I cry out to God, Lord take this away. I know longer want to sin, I am so sad that I even aloud that thought. Our straggle is between flesh and Spirit. God only knows the heart. I know I can not do it with out Jesus.

19:16 "Faithfulness is a requirement." Yes it is. What faithfulness is not, is a work.

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

All Christians sin daily and will sin until the day they die: “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

@malcolm716

Ай бұрын

Mark 10:18 There is none good but One, that is, God. God is the only one that is Faithful. Faithfulness is definitely work that only God can do. It is Gods faithfulness towards us that establishes what we are, not what we does towards him Just gives thanks to God for what he has done towards us, for he is the foundation for everything we are

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

Ай бұрын

@@malcolm716 Faithfulness is definitely not a work, it is being loyal to God only in your worship. The word faithful comes from the word faith and only by faith in Christ can we be saved. Faithfulness is an act of faith. Jesus was faithful to His Father and we must be faithful to God. 1 CORINTHIANS 4:2 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. REVELATION 2:10 10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

@terierichards1366

Ай бұрын

Jesus’ faithfulness: “if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

Ай бұрын

@@terierichards1366 It is also our faithfulness that God counts for righteousness. 1 CORINTHIANS 4:2 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. FAITHFULNESS is an act of FAITH. 2 TIMOTHY 2:12 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: Who is Jesus faithful to? His Father, God and to those who are faithful to Him. If we are not faithful to Him, He is not faithful to us. If you are not in Christ He will deny you but if you are in Christ He will not deny Himself. That's what that verse you quoted means.Don't get your understanding from reading just one verse, it will mess up you theology.

It’s amazing how we can all read the same book, same verses, etc. and come to different conclusions that we are so passionate about. I was raised Free Will Baptist and believe that although “no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand” (John 10:29), we may very well “pluck” ourselves from His hand and forfeit our salvation. That is the essence is “free will”. I think there are many people (sadly) who once were believers, who have since, through education, enlightenment, guilty pleasures, etc. have now decided that it was all a fairy tale. Those who believe salvation can be forfeited believe that those people indeed forfeited their salvation. The OSAS side, however, thinks that person simply never was a true believer to begin with. I think we all agree that they’ll go to Hell if they die in that condition. So why argue? I sure hope the OSAS believers have it right, but I pray every day for God to forgive me of my sins.

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

The Last Days will see such a departure. You are on the right track. It is time to pray for strength and endurance in the Faith and God will give it.

@daletrade5178

Ай бұрын

you will ALWAYS see a complete lack of focus on regeneration and justification, that happen in an instant in time, in these type of discussions

@EricaCampbell-iv5jj

Ай бұрын

And when you pray, do you believe that he does forgive you? And, how long after do you have to pray again? Are you fearful of forfeiting eternal life? Is it a constant fear?

@HookLineSinger

Ай бұрын

@@EricaCampbell-iv5jj I pray every day as Christ instructed us to pray, including “forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors”. No, I do not fear forfeiting eternal life, because I choose to remain in His hand. If I chose to leave the faith, denounced Christ and lived a sinful, unrepentant life, then I certainly should fear that.

@leoandolino4668

Ай бұрын

@@EricaCampbell-iv5jj You don't get it. It's an ongoing or growing relationship in becoming holier. Have you ceased from sinning? As the times get rough and they are going to get rougher worldwide - many may lose their faith especially those who think they are going to be Raptured away. One has to hold on to Him and pray continually, confess sins, and to endure. It is not about fear and trembling.

I was raised in the Presbyterian Church. My parents had me Christened as a baby, which is basically offering the child to God, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. So that child can live his or her life being of service to The Presbyterian Church. Thanks be to God. Our family uprooted from Long Island New York and moved to Texas in search of a different way of life. Whoa Doggy! DID WE FIND ONE, ALRIGHT! SO WHEN SOMEONE ASKS ME IF I have been saved? My answer was always the same, " Saved from what?"I have yet to recall one moment of my entire life, that the knowledge of God did not know where I was and I could count on that fact in which if I prayed and asked for guidance from a higher power, or holy spirit, that I did not had to worry about whether I was lost or not? Because, Presbyterians believe in forgiveness and Salvation, and Eternal Life. So Ask me again? " HAVE I been saved?" I say "Saved from what?"😮❤😊 Kathy Weidman

One point in arminian soteriology that probably should have been explained is how someone who loses their salvation can be saved again. Is there a passage of Scripture that unequivocally teaches that? How can one receive life that doesn't end, see that "unending" life come to an end and get it back again with the possibility of losing it in the future?

Thank you, Chris. The Lord blessed me through you last fall when you brought this up on you podcast. It was the final moment where I stopped trying to figure out how I was 'misunderstanding' what Scripture clearly says. I started looking a life as a man blessed to be able to actually live free of sin, not just it's consequences. I also learned a new very real fear that I hadn't experience before. The fear of the consequence of casting a stumbling block before other believers. Living in and living out His love had never meant as much to me before as it means to me today. My Brother in Christ, Thank you

@Biblestudies658

2 ай бұрын

Amen.

@TheCybercoco

2 ай бұрын

You sin everyday, and most of the time you're unware of it. Ignorance is bliss. But once you grow to understand just how deep your sin is, one of two things can happen: Either you drive yourself into despair, or you gain a lot more appreciation and dependency of the work of Christ in your life. Work that he did for you just because you had a little faith. He is the life support that keeps salvation alive, and he does not fail at it.

@jedimasterham2

2 ай бұрын

If you believed in Jesus, you are saved from the eternal consequence of sin, but you still sin daily like anyone else. Scripture is very clear that believers still sin, and the dual natures war against each other.

@paulerskine9416

2 ай бұрын

Actually, it's even better, because He did His work when I had no faith yet. Knowing that I would be born much later, and sin so much against Him. His gift frees me not to be a slave to that anymore. Of course, by The Spirit, I discover more sin to turn over to Him daily. But it's different now because I can, by His grace, abide in Him. How sweet it is to live in Him.

@paulerskine9416

2 ай бұрын

@@jedimasterham2 I agree completely, my friend. I used to focus much more on being saved from damnation, my eyes were never, turned as much towards the gift of not being bound to sin. When I started looking at my salvation as being TO a life in Christ, sins that once had a greater hold became very easy to leave with Him. Which leaves me to find the next way to please Him. He'll probably be revealing sins to me until my dying day. But I'm not caught in them like I used to be. I hope that explains it a little better.

Only 1 min in and you have already misrepresented the once saved only saved position.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

Address some of the verses showcased in the video.

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

@@catholictruth102 All Christians are sinners and all Christians sin daily, including you and you will sin until the day you die: “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

@sk-un5jq

2 ай бұрын

Trragically Chris has already dug his heels in and is now a slave of the law. (He only upvotes any comment supporting his new belief)

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

Ай бұрын

@@donkilluminati123 Yes we do, so what's your point?

@DonKilluninati

Ай бұрын

@@AgeOfNefarious_Deception I can't read what I previously wrote, so by your statement I cannot respond, because I don't know what I am responding to. If you can clarify I will respond. Thank you.

This documentary clear shows that Arminianism is alive and well in the church. May God help us!

Thanks for this.

Excellent work. Largely fair to the opposing view and well thought out. In a few places they oversimplify and seem to be primarily reacting to antinomian beliefs when Romans 7, in particular, can and is interpreted as a struggle we face but does not have to be construed as “normal” as in “acceptable.” Rather it can be acknowledged as part of the sanctification journey that should become less and less as we allow the love and power of the Holy Spirit to transform us. In the end, I wholeheartedly agree with their goal of pursuing holiness and obedience-oriented following of Jesus. On the primary theological question they are addressing, I think the most profound Biblical argument is if God created us with Freewill, as evidenced in Genesis 1, then why would He take away Freewill? Really appreciate the thoughtful work they put into this. Well done!

@JannLambert-dd2ql

Ай бұрын

I believe anyone can back slide , I feel we all are saved In Our Holy Spirit allowing us to feel our lord almighty if that is what we believe in , with so many denomination and different beliefs our Bible is our spoken words to be obeyed we should read it and give glory in our lord Jesus. Christ holy words .

Thank you for doing this! I know people who behave badly because of OSAS and they dont even realize it. Dear God, please bless this ministry and open the hearts of many people to receive your word.

@carlcasey4177

2 ай бұрын

How do i get saved?

@haroldbertrand852

2 ай бұрын

@@carlcasey4177 Believe in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross. Works will not save anyone. Salvation is by faith. But once saved God rightly expects us to grow in faith and in love. When we experience salvation, it’s like being given a precious gift. But just like any gift, it’s not meant to be left untouched or hidden away. Instead, it’s an invitation to embark on a journey of growth and transformation. Here are a few thoughts on how we can respond to God’s saving grace: Faith: Faith is like a seed planted in our hearts. It starts small, but as we nurture it through prayer, reading Scripture, and fellowship with other believers, it grows into a strong tree. We trust God’s promises even when circumstances seem challenging. Our faith deepens as we learn to rely on Him. Love: God’s love is boundless, and it’s meant to flow through us to others. As we grow in love, we become more compassionate, forgiving, and selfless. We learn to see people through God’s eyes and extend grace to them. Love is not just a feeling; it’s a choice we make daily. Knowledge: Growing in faith and love requires knowledge. We study the Bible to understand God’s character, His plan for humanity, and His redemptive work. Knowledge helps us discern truth from falsehood and equips us to share the Gospel effectively. Obedience: Our faith is demonstrated through obedience. When God’s Spirit prompts us, we respond by obeying His commands. Obedience isn’t always easy, but it aligns us with God’s will and brings blessings. Community: We don’t grow in isolation. Being part of a faith community-whether a local church, small group, or online fellowship-encourages us, challenges us, and provides accountability. We learn from others’ experiences and share our own. Growth is a lifelong process. God is patient with us, and He delights in our progress. Let’s embrace the journey, knowing that God’s grace sustains us every step of the way. 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

@davidswiger3324

2 ай бұрын

@@haroldbertrand852 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2

@davidswiger3324

2 ай бұрын

@@carlcasey4177 Believe on the blood atonement of Jesus Christ and obey his commandments. John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. John 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another. Romans 13: 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Galatians 5: 6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. 1 John 3: 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. James 2: 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

@davidbaron1486

2 ай бұрын

@@carlcasey4177 🤦🏻‍♂️

I hear so much unbelief in these comments. So many people give more power to sin than they do to God’s sanctifying power and promises.

What a brilliant film! Well done to everyone involved. Such good teaching. I hope everyone sees it!😂

@VincentDavito

26 күн бұрын

This is a lie from Hell. 😬😬😬😬😬😬😱😱😱😱😱😱Salvation is never lost.

Very well done video.

If they walked away from us they were never of us. - Bible ❤

@TexasJess777

2 ай бұрын

That’s not what first John is talking about. That is talking about false teachers and gnostics. Hebrews chapter 6:4-6 is one of many verses in the Bible that teaches that we should be cautious about being led away. These verses are not talking about people who were never saved. Paul addresses these individuals as “brothers“. These were saved individuals that chose to walk away and reject the Jesus Syrian. Don’t believe what I have to say. Go read your Bible.

@beaberean3286

2 ай бұрын

Context context context! It's eisegesis to use this verse in 1 john in reference to anyone who falls away. This verse is about false teacher who came in to purposely deceive

@Jquarles1973

2 ай бұрын

That’s dealing with gnostics. The overall message was deal with those who didn’t not believe Jesus came in the flesh was Antichrist. I know many people who believed Jesus came in the flesh but then apostatize.

@norbertomoran4575

2 ай бұрын

Which scripture says that?

@beaberean3286

2 ай бұрын

@@norbertomoran4575 1 john 2:19 which is ripped out of context. The verse is in reference to false antichrist teachers who were never saved. But those who hold to OSAS use this verse and eisegete it to include all who fall away which is wrong

So these guys that deny once saved always saved saying you must obey the law completely to be admitted into heaven.... until the Bible says be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect. That one they give themselves a pass. But in reality, hopefully an unsaved person reads that and says "that's impossible." Exactly! You're either saved by grace, or you're not saved at all. If we are saved by grace (we are), then once you're saved, you're always saved. If you don't believe that, then good luck trying to be perfect like our father in heaven. Hell will be your final destination.

@eternalinsecurity

Ай бұрын

Actually watch the video, and you might remove your comment.

@firefighter0723

Ай бұрын

@@eternalinsecurity I watched it, comment remains.

This documentary aims to make one believe that one cannot live with the assurance that he is once saved so he is always saved. Rather this documentary takes away this assurance of salvation and focusses on working out this salvation on daily basis. However the examples sought to be given of the early faithful disciples or apostles etc to support the case that once save is always saved was not their belief, are not convincingly presented in this documentary. One has to understand that these early disciples and apostles did not have the canonized book called Bible in their hands to quote or support this belief. The only holy text they had were Torah (first five books of Old Testament) or some fragments of the writings of the prophets who came before Jesus. Moreover, these texts and writing were not even easily accessible to all, and could hardly throw any light on 'once saved, always saved' or 'once saved, not always saved' thought, as this would have been pretty fresh idea after the death and resurrection of Jesus to these disciples and apostles. Now whether we talk about agnostics, stoics, heretics, disciples with different types of pagan backgrounds as against disciples from Jewish background, or Gospels and Paul's letters or letters by others compiled in the form of New Testaments after the said writing s were generally accepted as New Testament books in 200 to 300 years from the from the birth of Jesus, the fact remains that the presence of different point of views are based on ones own understanding of the concept of salvation. Salvation is a matter of faith in Jesus' own sacrifice on cross which definitely came to be not because did something good but due to prevalence of corruption. Yes, faith in Jesus' ultimate sacrifice does expect one to live a life without corruption, however the corruption will take away the salvation that is the result of Jesus' sacrifice is unpalatable. This kind of thought would show that it the corruption is more powerful to nullify Jesus' sacrifice, whereas one needs to understand that it is Jesus' sacrifice that triumphs over all corruption. Otherwise, as @Bob.55 has commented "Loss of salvation doctrine makes an absolute fool out of the Almighty." So, should be just keep living in corruption after we put our faith in Jesus? Of course not. Then, should we live a very cautious life, like walking on eggshells and making no noise? Of course not. Then, the question arise how should we live? My answer. Stop watching stupid videos like this one. Live a life where you do not consciously fall into corruption, and even if there is an unintentional fall, just get up and move on without pondering over much, because Jesus is encouraging you, cheering for you without large number of witnesses.

Very well thought out and presented. Thank you for your time and effort in presenting Biblical truth about salvation.

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

2 ай бұрын

No not really, just a bunch of know-it-alls, puffed up in their pride. 7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 TIMOTHY 3:7

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

2 ай бұрын

BEWARE: They have set up this STRAWMAN called OSAS to debunk it and promote this their HERESY. MATTHEW 7:15 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

@drewdoesdrums5666

2 ай бұрын

@@AgeOfNefarious_Deceptionwoah, be careful not to bear false witness about people whose hearts you do not know. Are these people not your brothers?

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

@Als11able

2 ай бұрын

well overdue.

Deut.30:17 But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them, I announce to you today that you shall surely perish...

@vickyannpaintingwithoils

2 ай бұрын

"How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?" - Romans 10:14. Turning away from hearing, is equivilent to never believing. It is not talking onced saved and sealed brethren by belief in Jesus Christ, turning away from Jesus, or in support of works for salvation,or about once saved brethren perishing to hell. Context matters.

@renancorte

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@vickyannpaintingwithoilswhat about those being referred to in Hebrews 6:4-6? They had clearly fallen/turned away AFTER becoming partakers of the Holy Spirit (in other words believers)… So, the falling/turning away here can NOT be equivalent to unbelief for they have heard, they have called and they have believed, YET they still fell away.

@arduhyp

2 ай бұрын

​@@renancorte they where partakers, but never saved. Just like judas iscariot was a partaker, the bible days that he was from the devil and didnt believe.

@thinklearndesign7441

2 ай бұрын

@@renancorte Hebrews, Peter, and John are Jewish books. They don't apply to the body of Christ today.

@thinklearndesign7441

2 ай бұрын

@@renancorte Hebrews, Peter, and John are Jewish books. They don't apply to the body of Christ today.

Thank you so much guys for this. All people in the world should see and hear this Documentary. Especially all Christians who think they with the Holy trinity but in reality they are not. Again, thank you so much for this.

I pray that God continues to have grace and mercy for me and leads me away from temptation. The Our Father prayer taught by Jesus exemplifies that which we all need to know and covers us.

Powerful ! This is the true gospel !!!!!! Holiness is a must! The holy spirit will power us to flee sin and bear fruit !

Thank you! He promises preachers of RIGHTEOUSNESS. Thank You Lord!

@branchingvine

2 ай бұрын

Those who deny the work of the cross is completely sufficient or workers of iniquity. They are false apostles.Satan's ministers transformed into the ministers of righteousness. But the righteousness they speak of are the righteousness of men not of god. Is faith on christ alone is God's righteousness. Add anything that you're doing to salvation and you don't have salvation.

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@branchingvine *Luke 8:13* “And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.”

@james8816

2 ай бұрын

Bad news for you: Romans 3:10 "As it is written there is none righteous no not one", Isaiah 64:6 "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags" the only righteousness you can have before God is that which is of faith and if you're believing in your works of righteousness then you don't have it. Romans 3:28 "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

@catholictruth102

2 ай бұрын

@@james8816 Roman’s 2:6-11.

@womanatwellworshiptheFather

2 ай бұрын

@@james8816 2 Peter 2:5 5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly Acts 10:35 34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. 36The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) If the last days shall be as the days of Noah, then how can there NOT be a preacher of righteousness

We lose our fellowship with God but not our salvation.

Thank you for bookmarking these with Scripture chapter and verse!

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

All Christians are sinners and all Christians sin daily, including you and you will sin until the day you die: “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

Amazing documentary! Wish this came out 20 years ago! We are in the Fathers hand yet have the free will and choice to walk out of His hands. He is a good God! It goes against the very nature of God if he would be holding us in His hands with his fist, Clintched and closed so tight that we wouldn't be able to even move out of His hand. He wouldn't force us to stay in His hands. That's what people don't understand! He warns us in His word don't worship false gods, but what is the world doing now? Worshipping thousands of false gods worldwide. That's their choice. No one forced them, and God warned them what their Consequences would be. We have a CHOICE to leave, and He won't force his hand closed on us. Every person in this life makes choices every day, including what they eat and wear, and you're telling me when it comes to God we just don't have a choice to leave. Lies from the pit of hell! Once saved, always saved is the greatest lie on the face of the planet. What these liars are really saying is they are once SLAVED ALWAYS SLAVED until they break free from this great deception that most churches are teaching. The way is narrow! No one wants to talk about that word or even acknowledge it. This proves that only a few will follow that word and obey it.

Sharon!! Praise God! Thank You Lord You promised Shepherds and You would teach them YOURSELF 🙏. Surprised to see you but Thank the Lord I understand He Gathers His Flock.

I was saved and followed Christ for +3 years then fell away from Christ and lived like absolute hell. I know for certainty I had a conversion because my life changed completely. The scales from my eyes fell and the spiritual lights turned on! But, I did not continue in study, worship, discipleship, and growth. And fell away. But for 26 years, while I knew Jesus was the only way to The Father and eternal life, if I had died, during that 26 years, on resurrection/judgement day, I would have heard, “Depart from me. I never KNEW you.” I am saved, again, now. I follow my Lord and feel keenly that this “once saved, always saved” doctrine is quite dangerous. Thank you for telling the truth. Repent and come back to The Lord Jesus if you have not obeyed your Lord.

They Strawman the Tar out of OSAS.

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@donkilluminati123

2 ай бұрын

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” (Ecclesiastes 7:20-22). Thus we disobey God daily, which is sin (Romans 5:19-21).

@Als11able

2 ай бұрын

@@donkilluminati123 Hebrews 10:26-31

@bguysworth649

Ай бұрын

Regardless of what the Bible teachers believe it’s the message that’s convenient to understand for many people who hear it. Also the Bible has verses that specifically say that you can be a partaker in the Holy Spirit and then be worse off after abandoning it. Therefore “if they left they were never a true Christian” doesn’t work. Even if it was true then technically you don’t know if you’ll ever walk away and have people say you were never a true Christian…… Being respectful. Just trying to analyze the text and carry the propositions out to logical conclusions.

@timothyowen4503

Ай бұрын

Actually they presented a fair though admittedly not balanced video. OSAS folks don't realize how bad their doctrine sounds till they hear it explained in a way NOT not couched in their cliches and slogans.

I've debated this issue a LOT over the course of my 56 years so far -- but y'all have convinced me that OSAS is a lie. Now...we belong to a church that is part of a denomination that has traditionally been anti-OSAS (General Baptist) -- but our pastor believes in eternal security. Even though I'm our church's worship leader, this, in fact, has me considering switching churches. Please pray for wisdom and discernment on this for me, y'all. UPDATE: Our pastor resigned just days after I posted this comment. Thus, I'm staying, at least for now.

@hunteroxentine3661

2 ай бұрын

Brother, once saved always saved, is a misnomer for the truth. The author and finisher of the faith is Christ, (Hebrews 12:2). All you who the Father chooses will come to Christ, and Christ will raise him up on the last day (John 6:37-39). No man can pluck them from His hand (John 10:28). He has begun a good work in us, is able to complete it (Philippians 1:6). He will not simply lose you, He leaves the 99, for the 1, (John 10:11-18). Those who leave from us, simply make it clear that they were never of us at all, or they never would have left at all, according to John (1 John 2:19) Don’t be thrown about by every wind of doctrine. If you believe that the only reason you don’t lose your salvation is because you, yourself, choose not to turn from God and are keeping yourself, then you’re puffed up with pride and in danger of falling. If you believe that it’s God who keeps you, and that He might lose you, you’re terribly underestimating the God you’ve believed in. Are there passages that seem to suggest otherwise? Sure. But the question is, what do the clear passages say? Those passages I shared are clear. A Christian CANNOT live in sin. Why? Because it I God who keeps him! He has been made alive in Christ, and cannot stay in sin, because he has a new nature, wrought by God. The early church didn’t always believe this, no. But they also believe in baptismal regeneration, infant baptism, purgatory, at times, and the perpetual virginity of Mary. They also often venerated saints. The church is not perfect. God’s word is. If you know that you’ve been saved, only examine yourself daily, and live by God’s word for His glory. If you can lose your salvation, you will. If you are saved, you will hear Christ and keep His commandments.

@AgeOfNefarious_Deception

2 ай бұрын

@@hunteroxentine3661 "The early church"? Which church is that in your opinion, the Roman Catholic Church? They were never the early church and are still NOT the church of God. I find your comment repulsive and extremely deceptive and a blight on the true early Christian church, who suffered and perished, being martyred at the hands of the grossly wicked catholic church.

@margiemurray4926

Ай бұрын

What can wash away my sin, nothing but the BLOOD OF JESUS. We are saved by grace through faith. we are sanctified by following Christ and through obedience. They are not the same. Be holy as I am holy. Jesus encourages us to choose holiness which is sanctification and maturing in Christ. There are baby Christians (milk) and there are mature Christians (meat). No man is a judge or author of another's salvation, it is our relationship with Christ alone.

Once we have faith in Jesus, we should always maintain it in order to be always saved. We cannot live astrayed from the faith or else we are no longer saved!

"I will never leave you or forsake you"

@jedimasterham2

8 күн бұрын

Amen. All of them in the video teach the opposite.

What a blessing this video is! What unbelievable great timing as well! It was like a GIFT FROM GOD HIMSELF to reassure what I AM doing is on the narrow road. ❤

@halcyon289

2 ай бұрын

So do you have assurance that you are heaven bound ?

@kM-ij2ly

2 ай бұрын

er no it is a gift from satan

@elvinmani

2 ай бұрын

​Heaven is not the destination, Yahshua is. Eternal life is to know the father. Too many just want to get to heaven🙄

@halcyon289

2 ай бұрын

Oh so this is about you . Matthew 7 : 21 - 23 was written for you .

@halcyon289

2 ай бұрын

@@elvinmani Yah....who ?

How about the passage that says “ you are saved by faith NOT by works” faith and faith alone? I think once you truthfully have faith and repent, you begin to realize and understand how sinful your life is. You begin to change drastically and slowly highlighting every step you take and you’re capable to make changes because you want to live according to the will of God! I still sin but my awareness is so high that when I know something is unpleasant to the Lord I walk away and ask God to forgive me… it’s a struggle living among a sinful world and He has set me free from things I thought I couldn’t change on my own, it’s a victory! but the Holy Spirit convicts me and warns me all the time! I am saved and I will keep fighting against sin!

@TheNomadicVoyager

Ай бұрын

James 2:26 says, Faith without works is dead. What passage is it that you are claiming says “you are saved by faith NOT by works”? As far as I know your passage simply does not exist anywhere in the Bible.

@ingridugarteche4301

Ай бұрын

@TheNomadicVoyager Read Ephesians 2, 8-9 it says it loud and clear my brother! James 2:26 is referencing to the Jews ONLY! If you read the Bible you have to learn to rightfully divide the text and don’t make the mistake to think James 2:26 is referring to us, the gentiles AKA (believers) if you mix the text you’ll be super confused. Reply if you have more questions!

@Daughter_of_the_King316

Ай бұрын

​@ingridugarteche4301 how do you know in James 2 he is speaking to JEWS?

The Holy Spirit spoke expressly that some shall depart from the faith, which proves, that even the security of the Spirit, is a luxury that is attached to the faith. (Ephesians 1:13) In whom also after that you believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise.

The argument from history has its strengths and its shortcomings. That church fathers before Augustine did not state their belief in eternal security doesn't mean that doctrine is not true. For centuries the church by and large abandoned the doctrine of justification by faith alone. That doesn't make that doctrine false.

I see things much clearer than before watching this. To God be the glory.

@halcyon289

2 ай бұрын

so you're saved then ?

@dannpd1955

2 ай бұрын

@@halcyon289 Ive been saved for 40 years. Im 68 now. I am still in the sanctification process. I know that He who began this good work in me will continue that work unto completion on the day of Christ Jesus.

@Fizz-yyy

2 ай бұрын

@@dannpd1955you can have assurance of salvation, this documentary seems more opposed to calvinist rather than once saved always itself. Check out onorato diamanté and Greg Jackson and David Benjamin here on yt. If you can’t find it ask and I’ll send a link

@agnipath2743

2 ай бұрын

@@dannpd1955 This movie is use less. Read Phil 1:6

Important to watch!

This is soo deep! I’ve been believing OSAS my whole life! And so have all the Christians around me! I’m soo discouraged I don’t even know what to do!!!

@mikaylakooper

Ай бұрын

Don't be discouraged, be so encouraged that God has opened your eyes to truth to show you that OSAS is a lie! God loves you. There are many who think they are saved but are on their way to hell. Cry out to God and surrender all to Him, He will save you and transform you!

@truthspirit4433

Ай бұрын

​@@mikaylakooper Thank you for sharing. I got this on your community post.

@lesterrawlins3315

Ай бұрын

I was so greatly confused when I first heard of this doctrine. When I belived in OSAS, I was a good Christian who witnessed to others. After being indoctrinated with the idea of losing my salvation I became very depressed and no longer knew what I belived. I eventually discarded the whole thing.

@mikaylakooper

Ай бұрын

@@lesterrawlins3315 Friend, if the clear teachings of the Bible caused you to fall away, I'm not sure your repentance was genuine to begin with. Because repentance includes believing and obeying and trusting the teachings of Jesus. If you don't even believe the very basics of the teachings of Jesus, how can you claim you followed Jesus to begin with?

@lesterrawlins3315

Ай бұрын

@mikaylakooper interesting you can pass judgment on me when all you know about me is one blog. It was the ambiguity that drove me insane. Everyone disagreed on at what point you could lose your salvation. Some said if you go back into sin. Others said your salvation was lost anytime you committed one sin or even a thought crime. Some said loss of salvation was apostacy and you can't come back. Others said you could come back. I hated this ambiguity. It drove me crazy. Many scriptures used to support forfeture of salvation was from Hebrews, a book written by an unknown author or set of authors. Thanks, Lester

Would love a look behind the curtain on why only one point of view was presented by advocates. For example, why was Calvinism presented by detracting proxies and not Calvinists? What constraints existed while making the video that prohibited the other point of view from presenting their questions/concerns with the primary theme of the video? Chris White mentioned on his podcast this took full time 9+ months of work and represented his best work to date. It really is impressive, but the one-sidedness will likely keep it from reaching White's desire to see it considered the final/comprehensive treatment of the subject.

@yfh635st

2 ай бұрын

I thought the exact same thing - a decidedly one-sided argument. I would have loved to seen an intelligent debate on both sides. Instead we were treated to a very dismissive attitude toward OSAS. No respect given to a reasonable theological belief. Why not include learned representatives from the other point of view? What are they afraid of?

@timothyowen4503

Ай бұрын

Because this video wasn't meant to be a debate. You can already find those on KZread. This was meant to be a presentation and explanation of truth.

@yfh635st

Ай бұрын

@@timothyowen4503 Then I shouldn't have used the word "debate." My point is it would have been a more impressive "presentation" to hear a carefully articulated alternative point of view, and that such views would not be casually dismissed as if they were without merit and unworthy of discussion, as they were in this video.

@timothyowen4503

Ай бұрын

@@yfh635st yeah, I'd probably like to see something like that.

I pray that God will close the mouths of false teachers who are telling the Saints that they have to work to keep their salvation.

@user-np5ji3jz6i

2 ай бұрын

Amen... but the ones in this video arent saying you have to work to keep your salvation. Watch it till the end. Youll see.

@Bob.55

2 ай бұрын

@@user-np5ji3jz6i There is no such thing as souls that need saving. in the first place. It's all made up.

@elizabethl3323

2 ай бұрын

@@user-np5ji3jz6i if you can lose it you have to work to keep it. To say otherwise it's cognitive dissonance. They didn't understand the Gospel of our first and second birth. Our will is neither determined like that of Calvinism, nor is it autonomous like that in Arminianism. Both systems teach salvation is ultimately by us instead of Jesus.

@TheFightingSheep

2 ай бұрын

Both sides of the argument are wrong, because neither understand the nature of soul, eternal life, what is salvation or how it works, and how our eternal life in this world translates to our eternal life in eternity.

@jedimasterham2

2 ай бұрын

If one can lose salvation and eternal life, then it means no one alive is actually saved yet, and the "eternal" life is not actually eternal. Loss of Salvation Theology (LOST) is a false gospel of works-salvation that is repackaged as "continuing in faith."

“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” ‭‭John‬ ‭5‬:‭24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

@shashamylife

10 күн бұрын

Amen

I believe in "You thought you were saved, and you were never saved." OSAS is not a thing. I've never heard any true holy Spirit filled brother say or Believe "I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT AND SIN ALL I WANT, AND STILL BE SAVED" It seems very strawman-ish. Only by repentance of your sin , faith in Jesus Christ, Jesus's deposit of the power of the Holy Spirit can man be saved and only by the power of the Holy Spirit are you kept saved. He cleanses you, convicts you of sin, adds things to your life, takes things away. He is the barometer and the deposit from heaven that is evidence of your salvation, your name now being in the lambs book of life. He is the focus. Not a quote used by unsaved people, then used in a general sense to describe everyone that believes Christ is mighty and strong to fulfill the work He began in you and keep you.

LOVED IT...tired of church folk, calling the Saints, sinners!! HE, paid, it ALL!!❤ HALLELUJAH ‼️‼️‼️

God says you can lose your salvation. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the SPIRIT expressly says that in later times some will DEPART from the FAITH by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, God says some will depart from the faith. How can you depart from something you never had? You can lose your salvation if you don't continue if the faith. God is talking about believers, not people who did not believe. Don't believe false teachers! Don't believe once saved, always saved. It is a Satanic doctrine, a doctrine of demons! Believe God and be saved!

@spartakos3178

2 ай бұрын

1 John 2:19 "They WENT OUT from us, but they DID NOT BELONG to us; for if they had belonged to us, they WOULD have REMAINED with us. However, they WENT OUT so that it might be made clear that NONE of them BELONGS to us." Clearly, these verses, like the parable of the soils are referring to false converts, who make public proclamations of faith, without an actual inward repentance.

@yirmeyahuM

2 ай бұрын

@@spartakos3178 We can have false converts in Christianity. But having false converts doesn't negate the fact that true converts can lose their salvation if they don't continue in the faith.

@sunshinegirl1967

2 ай бұрын

Yesterday, I quit my job at Walmart. Others are telling me "well, you probably never worked there anyway". See how "must not have been saved to start with" makes no sense?

@sunshinegirl1967

2 ай бұрын

You can't lose a job you never had. OSAS is a damnable heresy which kills the fear of the Lord. It is Gnosticism.

@troykaz9037

2 ай бұрын

I don't believe they were truly saved then. The Bible says that the elect cannot be deceived. So they didn't have the Holy Spirit. God doesn't give his Holy Spirit to mistakes.

Tank you for your clip.

Great video Chris. The content was awesome and the presentation itself was fantastic. Blessings!

Chris, your long video about the sabbath was my first introduction to the Gospel, and Jesus saved me later that night as I read the New Testament for the first time. That was 2021. Later I really got horribly backslidden and confused and sin really was ruining my discipleship. And part of that was the devil using OSAS against me to tell me that it's okay to get away with addiction just one more time because it doesn't matter anyways. I always heard the voice so clearly. But, when you really started talking about OSAS a year ago, it actually was very helpful. And I would go on in detail and stuff but yeah.

@richiekretzschmar3972

3 ай бұрын

Hi, do you know where I can find that initial video about the Sabbath?

@mikenunya4491

2 ай бұрын

@@richiekretzschmar3972 It might be this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/anyksqedfrLfe5M.html

@aizekl6212

2 ай бұрын

@@richiekretzschmar3972 The video is called "Should Christians Keep the Sabbath in the New Covenant? - Chris White" on his VerseByVerseBT youtube account.

@aizekl6212

2 ай бұрын

It's called "Should Christians Keep the Sabbath in the New Covenant? - Chris White"

@ 14:40 there is a blatantly obvious misinterpretation of the Bible in First Corinthians 9:24-27. Salvation is not even being talked about in that passage. Salvation is NOT A PRIZE to be won by how you live. This passage is about eternal rewards, not salvation. You do not earn salvation as a prize because you lived a dedicated life to the end. Salvation was won for you by Jesus Christ and you receive it as a FREE GIFT by faith in His finished work. Not one of these men understands salvation. Btw, I'm FAR from being a Calvinist. OSAS is Bible doctrine based on many clear passages of scripture. It cannot be walked away from or undone. Neither can you cease being born again. Once born again always born again. It is an eternal relationship with God our Father that will NEVER cease. To call salvation a "prize" is to place all the glory of our salvation upon ourselves, not Christ, who alone won it for us by the sacrifice of His innocent blood on the cross. If you did not get everlasting life when you believed you did not get saved. It really is that simple.

As long as we are alive we must strive daily. I advise people to listen to Howard Pittmans testimony. Yes we can fall from grace.

@jedimasterham2

8 күн бұрын

Where does it say in the Bible one saved can "fall from grace"?

We’ve been warned repeatedly in the bible and given the gifts of free will and grace, there are no excuses for rebellion. Anyone who saw this film and obstinately defended their choices in the comments is choosing destruction for themselves.

Thanks to these people for putting this video together. What a great informative lesson on salvation. I pray this meets everyone out there that needs to hear this message 🙏. May God bless you

@user-of1hd2dy1t

Ай бұрын

All these Pastors DON'T have a God..like my God...who loves me enough to keep me from losing my Salvation!

@Yeetmcyeets

Ай бұрын

@@user-of1hd2dy1t have to agree with you on this one