That grill on the new m3 is bigger than the whole e30

@damilolaakanni

2 жыл бұрын

😀😁😂😅🤣

@LilScrewmatic

2 жыл бұрын

true

@viktorr3458

2 жыл бұрын

Is it just me, or it looks like Voldemort?

@suorsah

2 жыл бұрын

And uglier than anything that has been on this planet.

@mikeyyyy8726

2 жыл бұрын

@@suorsah Nah it actually looks pretty decent with the M3/M4 grills.

The E30 definitely has the looks, but the newest M3 has the immense speed. I'd have the E30 any day, but the best M3 to me is the E46.

@kinoswirl7163

2 жыл бұрын

Same here the car is literally perfection

@carguyns4348

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have a favorite gen M3, I just love the M3

@MrKruska11

2 жыл бұрын

@@kinoswirl7163 looks better than E30, still has decent performance and tunability, heck even the GTR version with a V8

@drunkenhobo8020

2 жыл бұрын

Especially the CSL, which actually keeps the weight sensible. The new car is insanely heavy. Everyone criticises electric cars for being so heavy due to the batteries, but the G80 is the same weight as a long range RWD Tesla Model 3. How the hell did BMW manage that?

@paperisbored

2 жыл бұрын

is it couse you own one

I'm amazed how quickly Ethan developed a motorsport personality.

@V1Ct0rline

2 жыл бұрын

Wdym quick, it took him like 5 years :)))

@RedBatRacing

2 жыл бұрын

@@V1Ct0rline that's quick for Ethan

@leksluthor3

2 жыл бұрын

I love him. Met him at the Ring 2 years ago or 3, he was so nice.

@Kavones

2 жыл бұрын

Plot twist-he was always a car guy and he was acting like he wasn't!

@leksluthor3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kavones that was my thought as well when he was introduced on this channel back in the day. I thought he probably didn’t get that Suzuki unironically.

215hp out of an 80s 4 cylinder is insanely impressive

@bbc_junior4863

2 жыл бұрын

It was making more horsepower than V8s at the time, that’s insane!

@andrezesna3920

2 жыл бұрын

@CT is infant grade content now what are you talking about??

@andrezesna3920

2 жыл бұрын

238hp in the Sport evo with 2.5liter. In germany no one leave the s14 in Stock. Average HP of the most M3s is around 250HP. In DTM spec they get around 360hp out of it. My M3 has allready 180k km on the clock.

@vaporpunk24

2 жыл бұрын

@CT is infant grade content now What a stupid comment.

@BlatentlyFakeName

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbc_junior4863 Maybe an American V8. European ones were already making a lot more than that :P

Biggest difference is that as the years go on, nobody will remember G80 M3, yet everyone will remember the E30 M3

@vedantawasthi5410

2 жыл бұрын

maybe we'll remember it as the last manual m3....who knows?

@BB-zv8tx

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think so. The G80 will surely be remembered, just like the F80 and E36. Just not as fondly as the E30. Hell, maybe in 40 years they will start gaining value for some stupid reason (just like what is currently happening to 996s and E36s lol)

@KayJblue

2 жыл бұрын

Name a single M3 no one remembers… It’s not like these types of cars are just forgotten.

@doabarrellroll69

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no no no no, people will remember the G80 M3 in the future; they'll remember it for being god awfully ugly.

@BB-zv8tx

2 жыл бұрын

@@doabarrellroll69 and an absolute beast. tbh, with a prior design front end the car looks pretty decent, and a stage 1 Manhart M3C is already quicker than an Aventador S from 100-200. Say what you will about the styling, there's a ton of potential in this car.

Before anything else, I just have to give huge props for the editing on this, it was phenomenal. The tracking shots with the drones, how you integrate the performance and other figures within the shot and making it a 3D text so that it exists within the shot itself and is not static, great camera angles, and that beautiful transparent shot between the two cars demonstrating their stopping distance at 14:18 , I'm thoroughly impressed by the editing, really great job guys. And of course a great video overall as well, both cars are awesome, the E30 will always be a legend and we can always appreciate it, while the new kid on the block shows how times and performance have changed. Also love that little twist at the end, another great shot with the cars moving to the side and your choice of car coming in the middle :)

@stevehasler9538

2 жыл бұрын

AfterEffects 3D tracking! Very clever software isn’t it, and also skilful use of it by whoever edited. (Ethan or Jack?)

@bobkatap3581

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed that as well. Really high level of video editing and filming. Also at the end of the video where the M3 E46 showed up in between then was amazingly done.

@freddieparrydrums

2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who doesn’t hate on the G80

You can mod the e30 to make it quicker, faster steering rack etc, but you can't do much with the G80 to make it look better.

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

Are you serious simple bumper (if the big grill is problem to you) change is way easier than doing full suspension, semi slicks, lightweight rims, swaybars, titanium control arms polyurethane bushings maybe aero kit and g80 will be still faster.

@jondonnelly4831

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340All those things would be a joy to do to that lovely e30 car. I never said it was the EASIER option! I never said it was the big grill and if you think that would fix the looks your are mistaken. G80 is never gonna join the ranks of BMW design classics. It's only a fast car, for me that isn't enough.

@BB-zv8tx

2 жыл бұрын

Go look at the prior design kit then. It downsizes the front kidney more to what you see on the m340i. Looks rather decent imo.

@jondonnelly4831

2 жыл бұрын

@@BB-zv8tx It does help I give you that!

@rsoss92js

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 There's so much more than just the grill that makes it ugly. The whole design is just hideous. I reserved judgement until I saw one in person because I thought it might be one of those cars that look bad in pictures but nice in person but it's the opposite. It's 10x worse in person. Big, ugly, cumbersome mess.

G80 - "Not tonight mate" E30 - "This way, Sir. May I take your coat?"

Editing appreciation time. Very clearly lots of effort put into this one guys, well done!

@georgegamer9088

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4yMl9uSoszcg7Q.html

@lazar2175

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly editing was kinda shit on this one, they fucked up the drone shot and the size comparison was just awful. I assume they pay an editor, the composition and cuts itself are good, it's just like he had a bad hungover when editing this one.

@aydinsengun5088

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazar2175 you're right. The lighting wasn't balanced properly from the shots inside the car (the outside was completely blown out or Alex's face was too dark), you could see the mic peeping in and out of shots, the inside shots weren't framed as well as they could have been to avoid seeing the rear camera, and the mic set up and audio was just really quite poor. Overall, just not up to the standard they've been setting with past videos. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say that it might be a new crew or something.

@edwin3934

2 жыл бұрын

Uk pulis

Considering the age and technology differences , the E30 has nothing to be ashamed of . Pretty respectable really

What accelerates faster? The price of the E30 or G30?

@hankhill9032

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's the bmw.

@dillanmistry

2 жыл бұрын

@@hankhill9032 yes😂

@JM-io2uv

2 жыл бұрын

The German one

@TheBimmerMan

2 жыл бұрын

the one with 4 wheels

@JD-eo7dr

2 жыл бұрын

They might be both M3s but there's only one "ultimate driving machine"

I’d still rather have the E30 that G80 grill is just hideous

@EinKerl3554

2 жыл бұрын

E30 for me as well, besides it was actually built for a purpose, to go racing and win the German Touring Car championship, which it did. Every M3 since has been for people to sit in and play racer.

@dedyardana1224

2 жыл бұрын

how long the g80 been on the market? why I haven't seen any enhanchement fix for that beautifull grill

@bencns

2 жыл бұрын

I saw one today while walking down the street and screamed “EW” only to then realised it’s windows where open. I don’t regret it.

@DanielSadjadian

2 жыл бұрын

@@bencns haha epic. Did the owner get a bit angry? 😂

@Calx91

2 жыл бұрын

@@LogiForce86 I’ve seen it in real life to lol like just a tiny bit better but enough to change my mind

For me the winner here would be the E30, It got the looks, charm and strong personality. Also its always more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

Just then drive fast car fast.

@Eatinbritches

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 Obviously you've never driven a fast car fast. You either spend more time braking, or you have to dial the speed back - making all that excess power a waste. Quite frankly; the most fun roads simply don't have the space to accommodate the high power cars. The lower powered lightweights wind up being more satisfying because you can use all the performance.

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

@@Eatinbritches that's the one of those excuses "i drive slow cars cause im scared to drive fast cars and with slow car i can blame car not my skills".

@henningschroth7405

2 жыл бұрын

These guys just wanna say the like to see fast cars going fast from the bus seat they are placed in...

@sparky4878

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 James Hunt said the most fun he had was driving an old A35 van. Senna said the purest motorsport he drove in was in karts. They knew what they were talking about. When you can drive something flat out all the time is a lot more fun than driving something well within its limits.

The front end has evolved but in backwards

@PavleSavic00

2 жыл бұрын

->Upgrade ->Upgrade ->Upgrade ->Fuck, go back

@naliinsuthakaran2967

2 жыл бұрын

devolved*

@shukrantpatil

2 жыл бұрын

i like it , its aggressive

@marcox4358

2 жыл бұрын

it literally went back to the first BMW's lol

@markwright3161

2 жыл бұрын

@@shukrantpatil Yes, in the sense of the state of someone's nose after their face was *aggressive* -ly smashed into a brick wall repeatedly :) I'm not a fan, if it wasn't obvious :) , it's just a personal preference thing. It just makes me think of the 'nose bone' of a skull when I see it. :)

The E30 and this whole generation of BMW’s were very distinctive in their appearance, very easily recognisable. The current gen bm’s are just a tad euro box looking.

@Anirossa

2 жыл бұрын

I daily a e34, this bimmer generation is great

The E46 is the perfect compromise of the 2. Modern enough to be fast, safe and fun, but old enough to be beautiful and still have the old school BMW feel. I had a 2002 330ci on coilovers with a 5 speed and it was such a blast to drive.

@filcu

2 жыл бұрын

I still have a 2000 330 coupe on coilovers, and I'm not getting rid of it, blast to drive.

@tracktimevideos5164

2 жыл бұрын

Having owned an e46 M3 no. It was a letdown. Feels gutless, needed mods to handle properly and it was a very unreliable moneypit of a car. Never again.

@VladoooThe

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracktimevideos5164 sounds like 330 is the answer lol

@tracktimevideos5164

2 жыл бұрын

@@VladoooThe yes if you want something even slower but with many of the same issues. Crap cars.

@VladoooThe

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracktimevideos5164 lol crap cars. Sounds like you just don't maintain your cars. I've had 4 old bmws, all with 300k on them (currently drive an e39) and no major issues.

the e30 is definitely prettier

@mdfarukftw

2 жыл бұрын

No

@gasperc6967

2 жыл бұрын

The pig snout grill meme is comming to live and i hate it

@carguyns4348

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdfarukftw both are equally pretty to me, call me crazy but that is my opinion.

@zhila5958

2 жыл бұрын

@@carguyns4348 i respect your opinion since it’s all just personal preference in the end of the day. and everyone has their own view on things and that’s why we have different cars for different people. i personally think E30 is way better looking but that’s my personal opinion

@N1ckZ

2 жыл бұрын

In your opinion. To me the G80 looks a lot better.

30 years old styling is better, thats for sure.

@guillaumetsogbe-hamel2145

2 жыл бұрын

@Martin there is always a nostalgia factor but something thats ugly won`t pretty because of nostalgia.

@vintageman91

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are numerous decades where cars looked the best in general like all the way from the early 30s to the late 80s/early 90s that was the end of that period.

@E34Benzin

2 жыл бұрын

@Martin No way. The E65 is still as ugly and offensive to look at as it was 20 years ago.

@supgizmo5021

2 жыл бұрын

The G80 fits this era of blandness or even ugliness much like the music of today whereas the E30 looks 80s 😎. My son thinks the same and he is 14 so it is not age.

for the first time in history, grandma will actually call the grandson ugly.

@kombajn2

2 жыл бұрын

are you drunk?

@iexplainjokestomakethemles1560

2 жыл бұрын

@@kombajn2 no, why?

@27Zangle

2 жыл бұрын

Not the first time :-(

Having previously had the E30 325i SE, and being a teen in the 80's... I'd still have the E30 M3 all day.... 😎

Amazing machine but she’s definitely not a looker. Give me old school any day.

@lisabeck3963

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The front grill on the new car is really NOT pretty

@ccips1135

2 жыл бұрын

Call me blind but i love the front of it. But back lights not a big fan (looks a like a Lexus from the back)

@sparky4878

2 жыл бұрын

@@ccips1135 you asked for it, you’re blind.

@wruenvadam

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparky4878 It is a divisive design choice, but I can see how someone could like it. The front end in general looks good. The lines are good and it looks aggressive. It is just that the grill interrupts things a bit, but they continue the lines of the grill onto the hood, and mimic the angled lines of the lower parts of the grill into the lower intakes, and the main horizontal line at the front perfectly lines up with one of the lines in the grills and goes all the way across. I don't think the grills look particularly bad. I think the real issue is the way the lower intakes on either side of the grill end. They angle inward and I really don't think that was the right call. Gives it a not quite as aggressive look. A hard edge angled outward might have worked better. Sure it would have made it look like it was smiling, but with how aggressive the lights and the rest of the design was, it would come off as more of a devilish smile. Probably would have made it less divisive. That's just my two cents, and I don't have photoshop to figure out a way to visualize it so it could look worse. The minds eye is not the same as real life soo... don't sue me. :P

@jazenkow5792

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisabeck3963 Not only grill. This whole BMW looks like prefired Alfa Romeo Giulia with VW plastics and fake leathers...

It is amazing that the E30 is faster than the Toyota GT86. 25 years of suspension technology should equate to at least 2 tenths on this really short track. Not negative 3 tenths

@HeroManNick132

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that this M3 also has more power too.

@_shreyash_anand

2 жыл бұрын

@@HeroManNick132 yeah. 18 more. That should absolutely not overcome 20 years of chassis science.

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

Better tires maybe, not tested one after another. Maybe gt86 didn't get the best lap at that moment.

@KS-gv8jy

2 жыл бұрын

@@_shreyash_anand agreed and in developing the E30 more effort was put in to the chassis and the track cars were already kicking 350 BHP and a 9000 rev limit that's a real E30 M3 the ones sold to the public were purely for entry requirements in the championships

@chrisredfield3240

2 жыл бұрын

The Toyota is probably much heavier than the E30

I love how the uk plate covers part of the grille and makes the car look better. Looked up g80 front end conversions and god is the stock front end ugly

But seriously, we need a laptime for that E46, especially if you could get your hands on a CSL. I bet it would be waaaay closer to the F80 than you'd expect considering it has decent power, ABS and great suspension geometry.

@ChrisCaaa

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah with short straights like this there isn't much scope for the G80 to take advantage of the power differential.

@thebrelon

2 жыл бұрын

The E36 M3 is not that far from the G80 M3 lap-time-wise, so the E46 M3 should squeeze itself between the 2. Can it go in the 35s?

@ChrisCaaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebrelon Probably not, I think you'd have to look to the next V8 powered generation for that.

@nightdriver7216

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm... No. Technology came a long way. It even loses to the E92 GTS (Hockenheim paints a more accurate picture than the Nordschleife).

Those numbers are all very impressive but it still looks like a bloody beaver. I'd take the E30, thanks.

11:09 Can we just appreciate that the E30 isn’t in last place on the board.

@adrianrandall2395

2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised it was faster than the Toyota. Made my day.

I have to say that a E36 M3 repainted with proper paint and corrosion protection is the best M3 imo.

@ringbimmer

2 жыл бұрын

You have such good taste

@andrezesna3920

2 жыл бұрын

It looks good but its not handmade like the e30 and its Bad balanced. The e36m3 Was planned as 4cylinder. Also the interior has Bad quality. I love the s50

@romachoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrezesna3920 bad balanced but still every Nurburgring dash cam has at least 1 e36 even not m3 and just 326

@romachoz

2 жыл бұрын

325*

@andrezesna3920

2 жыл бұрын

@@romachoz Because the e36 is very cheap. But prices are rising. The M3 Was planned with modified Version of the M42. Watch BMW e36 STW . You will love it.

It's like when BMW ask me every now and then to upgrade my near 20 year old E46 M3, why would I want to?

@naycnay

2 жыл бұрын

Ha. I went up to the local BMW dealership once to get a part I ordered and had a nose around the new models. Some younger, mid-20's salesman was walking me through the M2 (the first year models of them). Out of curiosity, from the hype of them being the "new E46", I took it out for a drive and I told him it's just soulless. It was a "nice" car, but it just didn't appeal to me as someone who likes that mechanical rawness. I flipped it back on him asking if he'd ever drove a nice E46 M3. Apparently he'd only moved a few non-M's around the parking area. Gave him the keys to mine for 20 minutes whilst I went to drool over all the fancy Porsches and Astons. When he returned he was like "yeah, I like that a lot".

“…it’s always going to be an old car with a four-pot, soft suspension, and slow steering.” Moog and Marty would like a word…

@FieryWings01

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love Black Chops!

@williamhardes8081

2 жыл бұрын

@@FieryWings01 little car with a big donk. the heavens align.

@TobiasLeininger

2 жыл бұрын

yes, all the E30 is lacking is the correct engine. It was designed as a light and nimble car not max horsepower. Mine has an s38 in it, much fun :D

@FieryWings01

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamhardes8081 thats exactly what my e46 compact is!

@aarons4205

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! E30 with an LS swap and modern suspension > all

As an E46 M3 owners that ended made me quite happy.

You can't deny that every time they make a new M3 they improve on it's performance, it's just a shame that every time BMW takes a step forwards in speed they seem to take a flying leap backwards in appearance. The G80 is an excellent driving car, but you wouldn't want to be caught dead inside something that looks that much worse than it's competition.

Your videos been getting better and better! Keep up the good work guys

New cars will never capture the magic of the old ones! Have a great weekend guys!

@carobsessions4707

2 жыл бұрын

That's true old are gem gold with real Enthusiast feeling True drivers joy No kids gizmo's Real men car

You should do a vintage or older tire, compared to a new track based tire, would have some really interesting results

“It’s even got drift mode” Yeh and you can do it by turning DSC off

Would you look at the production values and dynamic shots in this video! You boys are hitting it out of the park! Well done!!

If I had a choice, I would choose the e30 m3.

Before I watched this, the E30, after I’ve watched it, still the same view, adore the old BMW’s and always will

BMW should remake the E30 with 21st century kick

@supraJZA80s

2 жыл бұрын

GT86...

@Deehydrate

2 жыл бұрын

@@Intelcroa why? People have done it to Jaguar E-type, Aston Martin db5 and a few other cars. So why not?

Awesome video guys! I enjoyed every bit of it, nice work!

Next up Lancer 1.8 vs Evo FQ-400

@ts.exotics642

2 жыл бұрын

Juicy turbo lag

The E30 was brilliant but as a de-tuned racing car there were some issues when using it as an everyday driver. My two favorite M cars for regular use are actually the E28 & E34 M5s although the E46 is also good.

Love the rolling stats part at around 2:01, great video editing there!

Love it! Had my 997 Turbo there Monday and got it up to 110 on the straight. Sure it could do more but that was enough for me over the hill on the brakes bouncing 😅

G80 may be faster, but E30 wins our hearts forever!

E30 has far more character!

@sarlaton1483

2 жыл бұрын

U will say that in 30 years for G30… every M car i car with character

I’m just going to say it now… Ethan has turned into such a AWESOME guy to watch. Genuinely funny stuff

When the M3 was launched it was a homologation car for Touring car racing, at the time I liked the look of it but lusted more for 325i Sport with the six pot.

trouble is with these sorts of comparisons is that motor technology has moved on more in the last 30 years than it has in the last 90 years before it!!!

@raynman6466

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but that's the whole point of these sorts of comparisons....

@paulrobinson3528

2 жыл бұрын

@CT is infant grade content now I'm not on about quarter miles times or top speeds you plonker. I'm on about technology, (re-read my post) that is in cars now that was not invented 30 years ago. Also look how far cars have come with crash technology to!

@Andre-xf7tp

2 жыл бұрын

No much since the 90s in japan.. you are comparing an NA car with a Turbo. Turbo Sports Cars from the 90s can kick new cars

@paulrobinson3528

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andre-xf7tp new cars are fat and ugly compared with 90s cars!!

@Andre-xf7tp

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulrobinson3528 I agree but i was saying 90s sports cars have some nice tech too, not too diferent from today in some cars

I’d take the E30 any day of the week

Love the twist at the end! Great vid 👍🏼

I'd love to see a fiesta ST on that track. And to have seen how fast the M3 could have gone to brake in the same distance. Good fun, thanks

Never thought I'd say this about a BMW, but the G80 would definitely look much better after a head-on collision! I still can't get over that hideous pig-snout, I just can't look at it and it's so bad that it makes anything else about the car irrelevant to me. RIP BMW... 😢

@apachehelicopter5001

2 жыл бұрын

Get over it🤣

@kozzovitch

2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever seen it in real life though? I did not like it at first, but when i saw it in person, it looked much much better.

@GTAmaniac1

2 жыл бұрын

@@kozzovitch I saw it in person a couple of days ago and all I have to say is the huge nostrils don't look nice at all

E30 vs a GT86 would be an interesting challenge

Loving the editing!

Editing on this looks amazing!

Whenever I see old vs new comparisons I always think back to Gone in 60s when Nicolas Cage goes to the Ferrari dealership.

@RobJaskula

2 жыл бұрын

Two Rogers don't make a right!

The G80 is one hideous looking car. Give me the E30 m3 anytime.

@nvl2691

2 жыл бұрын

Having seen a black one in real life... it's MUCH better looking than in pictures.

0:71s Quicker on such a short lap... that is quite impressive...

this is great, i encourage everyone who enjoyed this to watch the new hagerty video on the same topic!

Heh, those giant Brit front plates cannot hide the buck teeth! BMW finally admitted that "styling" is for the Chinese market. E30 is a car, G80 is a washing machine that does movement instead of laundry. "Where is launch control?" No further questions, your honor. ;)

Need a high-pass filter on that cabin audio

Bro these moving shots are ✨Amazing✨

Sick video right when I woke up on my birthday. Cheers Boyz!

The stats we all need to know... is how many computers can go wrong on each car? How many sensors does each car have? How many people can actually work on them and how much a clutch will cost you.

@DaxterL

2 жыл бұрын

and considering it's bmw even the old parts will be costly XD so yeah, also the newer bmw looks horrible, it's the grill mostly, looks like squirrel teeth.

@sleepingwarrior4618

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaxterL some parts are reasonable...pads are fine, filters are fine, tyres hurt and anything flappy paddle is time for a mortgage.

@TristanSilverwood

2 жыл бұрын

You could buy two of the new m3's for that e30 nowadays. Stop acting like its the poor man's easily fixable in your garage car anymore

@dkdanis1340

2 жыл бұрын

Btw if you didn't know it's not 1920s now tech has evolved its super reliable it's more likely for a mechanical part to fail than some computers. New one is super easy to maintain oil filter is in nice location plus you have obd port so you can plug and it will tell everything. And for clutch in automatic g80 well guess what it doesn't have any, for the manual it's super strong and it will last long time and easy to replace. For e30 clutch easy to replace too. And for sensors e30 has lots of sensors ecu, crank sensor, pressure sensor, throttle position sensor, full electronic injection. And g80 has lots of sensors too.

@sleepingwarrior4618

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkdanis1340 anybody claiming that computers and sensors are reliable is simply a salesman. Not in the real world. Computers and sensors are the blight on modern cars. Flappy paddle DSG clutch setups are wasted on a car (they below on a HGV) and frighteningly expensive when they go wrong. Look at the early Golf and Scirocco repair bills...and Audi are even worse.

Is that an Oxford green E46? They're rare as hens teeth.

@Topher7527

2 жыл бұрын

Best e46 color imo.

@mata2618

2 жыл бұрын

@@Topher7527 With cinnamon leather

Awesome comparison. Kinda wish you did a rolling start at 50 or 60 since the power between these cars are massive. Throwing the e46 m3 into the mix would be interesting too.

I never thought I’d see a mention of skateboarding on my favourite car channel 😌 also great video!

This is freaky, just had a thought about getting an E30 3 series and this gets uploaded the next morning

@craigvalentine1547

2 жыл бұрын

Love my E30. Might be old and a bit rattly but it's fun to drive. Cheap to maintain and plenty you can do to it. As someone said in the comments. No one will remember the new one in 30 years time

@BigGaines

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say it's worth it my dude! Love my e30

Lets just spare a moment to appreciate the absolute mint condition of the e30 m3... I mean ... IT IS FENOMENAL

Respect to Alex for saying what on his mind. Always been of the e30 and e46 but u gotta give it to the man for being blunt 🙌🏻

Wow this is like a mini episode of top gun with a shorter less eloquent version of Jeremy Clarkson. Cheers mates keep doing what you're doing love the show. love seeing all the European cars that we don't get stateside.

I would take the E30 M3 any day both for looks and since I would imagine older cars being easier to work on and modify to make a really fun project car

@unknownname6519

2 жыл бұрын

Well not that easy if you can weld metal propperly... It will just fall apart if not taken care of it

The new M3 is ghastly... just one of the ugliest bimmers ever made.

@zzhughesd

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a minger. It’s impossible to love it. I’ve tried. I’ve thrown towel in. It’s just an ugly car. And the e3O so stanced perfect. Just a sweetheart.

@bokichko

2 жыл бұрын

@@zzhughesd i love the looks of the new M3

@PeteCourtier

2 жыл бұрын

@@zzhughesd Yes, E30 is a pretty car. 80’s/90’s had some beauties like an Alfa 155 cloverleaf, 205Gti or an Audi S2.

@ollie-kc6nj

2 жыл бұрын

@CT is infant grade content now no its not a bad looking car

@BlatentlyFakeName

2 жыл бұрын

And they look even worse in the flesh. The M8 is even worse though. I don't know what they were thinking with these designs. It's like they decided to make no areas of the car match the others. The lines are awful.

I love this show. It's what Top Gear used to be. Great work lads. A pleasure to watch.

Cracking video guys!

This is basically carwow and Matt but from wish.

The E30 is stunning, E46 is the most fun & any after that have had no character.

@TopiAS06

2 жыл бұрын

and soon someone here is Crying "E92 Is ThE BeSt CuZ iT HaS V8"

@andrewcorcoran991

2 жыл бұрын

@@TopiAS06 new cars are great if you want to go fast. But they rarely turn heads like the classics do.

@TopiAS06

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcorcoran991 no shit. e30 is car that needs to be driven, 200hp N/A engine that needs reving, in this turbo era, people dont really know how the drive em, they are used to low torq etc. and that car is all about momentum

@TopiAS06

2 жыл бұрын

@driver seems to me that people really dont get that 30yo age gap.. new car is always new car, old is mostly nostaltic, as a guy who has owned 4 different 30`s, i love em, things like not too light streering etc.

God i love the e30, my dad had one in 80s, was just a 316 back rhan, but i grew up with it so old love never dies

Listening to the verdict in the end makes me want to think of Alex as an 80s news announcer. The way he says one thing....and his voice goes doooown...

That grill never fails to 'impress'. The poor G80 will never be seen at a classic car show in the future, they'll get some miles and get crushed. And rightfully so...

@theocmaniak

2 жыл бұрын

Same has been said about E36s, so...

@CathodeRayNipplez

2 жыл бұрын

@@theocmaniak So... When? In 1990?

@theocmaniak

2 жыл бұрын

@@CathodeRayNipplez Yeah, the point is that E36s even though considered hideous for most is still a classic today.

@CathodeRayNipplez

2 жыл бұрын

@@theocmaniak Righto. I didn't know there was an negativity towards the E36 at launch but I'm also not a Bimmer connoisseur either. I just know what is futuristic and what is a fad, these big mouth grills were introduced for the Chinese market as they just love this sort of crass gawdy cartoon stuff, and being the biggest consumer of cars now we all get lumbered with it. It wont last, just need to suffer it for a while. That said the poor G80 isn't futuristic or ahead of it's time and won't grow into it's skin. It will always be fugly and def won't become a future classic. Fortunately there are now some great looking aftermarket front ends available that look fabulous. I belive BMW have bought the rights to a particular manufacturer in Europe somewhere to use from the factory.

In 30 years time there wont be a steering wheel, you'll be sitting facing backwards and the car will refuse to do anything so dangerous as driving faster than 5kph when off a designated road.

@unknownname6519

2 жыл бұрын

Classic bs.. thats what they said 30 years ago..

@iandarby9804

2 жыл бұрын

It's on its way, were already lemmings the game

@theodorvalentinghita1779

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds pretty boring

@gringotom242

2 жыл бұрын

Lol that's exactly what they were saying when I grew up in the 80s.

@iandarby9804

2 жыл бұрын

@@gringotom242 were already completely enslaved to a mobile phone, it's not far off is it

Love the e46's appearance at the end👍

"these optional carbon bucket ceramic seats" killed me 🤣

😂 that grille really doesn’t get better the more you look at it…. Infact the more you look the more you laugh.

@lawrenceostle8632

2 жыл бұрын

I saw a 4 series recently, and I laughed out loud. Who goes into a dealership and spends big on something that ugly?

@TheBimmerMan

2 жыл бұрын

for me the big grille grown on me. also i think the M3 looks better than the M4 and 4er.

When I was this early, project Phil was still a thing.

Those new seats. Wow. Beautiful. Great to see the E30. Great video. 👏👏. I had an E36 Evo. Oh the memories. !! Had hair on the top of my head then, and a fit girlfriend. Oh well !!!

Watching that lap in the G80 makes me wonder how much slower Alex would go with all of the computers turned off (if you can even do that). That thing was unbelievably planted for a RWD 500 bhp 1730 kg car. Might be an interesting video idea.

Still unbelievable that the E30 can beat a modern sports car like the 86

@rsoss92js

2 жыл бұрын

I was totally taken off guard by that. I 100% would have sworn a GT86 would be faster round a track. Really impressive.

@gjj665j66

2 жыл бұрын

It's a softer version of a DTM car what do you expect

This is a slightly different budget to our E30 vs G20 video xd

Congrats on 3m subs 🥳

That E30 is a beaut! I actually didn't know the E30 M3 came with a 4banger i thought they were all slant 6

E30.... Back in the day when BMWs had character and were cool.

For a minute I thought you guys did a MCM collab!

@gasperc6967

2 жыл бұрын

That would be sick

@joealex65

2 жыл бұрын

If only they weren't LITERALLY 10 thousand miles away! 😂

@MrMarty77

2 жыл бұрын

@@joealex65 yeah, kinda forgot about the whole pandemic thing there for a moment 😂

LOL that bit of expression at 11:51 is comic gold! xD meme worthy.

E92 is forever going to hold a place in my heart.

But still i would take e30, when that looks so damn good...

I could care less how fast it is because it’s fucking beautiful

@georgemorley1029

2 жыл бұрын

How much more could you care less?

@jameswallace7091

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgemorley1029 I wouldn’t care if it didn’t even move. I’d keep it in my garden as an ornament

You have to remember the e30 in the 80s was a weapon. Today we are use to diesel cars that are faster than ferraris from back then. Great video guys👌

love your videos i drive a 2020 wrx with sti short throw shifter and running gear with a borla catback and device call roarpedal i can change the throttle response and sends the signal to the throttle body faster