+£300 to help BMW M celebrate 50 years? That's just taking a straight piss ain't it? That's like having to pay for the birthday cake when invited to someone's party. Should be a no cost option or no cost delete.

@EnyoTaiz

Жыл бұрын

Well, at least you can pretty much guarantee that in 20 years people will pay extra for your car with the special optioned badges.

@jamieward3574

Жыл бұрын

This a company that charges a subscription for heated seats. I'm surprised doors aren't a cost option by now!

@cjrp0

Жыл бұрын

Paying for exclusivity... until everyone else gets one from Aliexpress for £3.

@scottdosborne

Жыл бұрын

These badges will be the next 'm' badge/ m stripe grills on everything. I'd had them on my 50 year old bmw for awhile, before people generally knew what they meant and as soon as this car came out i kept getting people asking me if the badges were "those new m3 ones" and off they came.

@Lambullghini

Жыл бұрын

@@scottdosborne Damn that's kind of depressing..

That B3 looks epic, especially in grey.

@NotMyAccount

Жыл бұрын

Yea. I think that what would improve the M3's look is adding the grill present o the new 3.0 CSL. It would make a huge difference.

@oliverlanchester2632

Жыл бұрын

Pina b3 all day, everyday

@Beer_Dad1975

Жыл бұрын

@@NotMyAccount Beating the M3 with a hammer repeatedly would improve the M3's looks.

@NotMyAccount

Жыл бұрын

@@Beer_Dad1975 Exactly. I have some adjustments I'd knock onto the way the rear doors continue into the fender.

@aftastosk6016

Жыл бұрын

It looks epic only because the M3 is soooo ungly

I think most Alpinas appeal to me more than the M variants. Seems like they have a keener sense of what people want from these types of cars and the styling is always more sublime and elegant. The power is always there, but the ride is better over long distances.

@springertube

Жыл бұрын

Must be the demographics... the M3 much more in your face, boy racer look. I like that the Alpina's much more stealth, the overly large wagon wheels (yes I know, blasphemy, long an Alpina signature) notwithstanding.

@thewaldfe9763

Жыл бұрын

I'd go for the Alpina any time. The modern M-cars look like some very childish person with incredibly bad taste has tuned it.

@HiddenWen

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Stealth wagons are definitely the kind of car that a lot of people love. Usually, dads who during their childless days drove pretty cool cars, and now have to incorporate kids into the equation. At the same time, these dads want to look responsible (showing up to school in a murdered-out E63s or this M3 wagon is cool but you know...). The Alpina (and more low-key RS models or a regular E63 fixes these issues).

@peterhammer6915

Жыл бұрын

I would choose and M-car over an Alpina every day of the week. The Alpinas used to be great aka E34 B10 Biturbo. They are just so boring nowadays, just made for comfort. If you want comfort, yes go for Alpina, if you want driving dynamics, take the M. This is the best wagon in its class by a country mile.

@rw1592

Жыл бұрын

I owned the predecessor to this B3. A great car, but driving dynamics of the current M3 are in a completely different league. The new M4 comp convertible is my daily now (technically identical to the touring) and it as far as driving dynamics and performance are concerned it is a phenomenal car. BMW really nailed it with the current M3/4 generation. These are true driver's car, yet fully usable as daily.

The Alpina has an air of sophistication

Great to see an Alpina on the channel. Not often mentioned by journos.

@Line-vw5io

Жыл бұрын

I have missed the drive and review of the Alpina. I'm in that stadium now, M3 or B3. 1%,of the video is over the B3? Otherwise, great video.

@Franzino

9 күн бұрын

@@Line-vw5ioSame! Thinking about M3 Touring vs B3 Touring also….sadly there is almost no mention of the Alpina in the review.

I think we need more Alpina reviews

@peterhammer6915

Жыл бұрын

why? Its a boring car.

@SardanadzeGiorgiShorts

Жыл бұрын

@Peter Hammer I have a 2000's B3, Manual, and most epic moments is when someone stops me, and just all of them telling me, "U have the best car" I think for that, just it costs)) I have tried driving with 911, SL65, M550, C63S, and Never stopped me someone, to just told me, or just showed me 👍, never happened yet. 🙌

@Line-vw5io

Жыл бұрын

​​@@peterhammer6915 so we just have to believe you and follow your opinion? Other people don't get to make there own choice? 🤷

@peterhammer6915

Жыл бұрын

@@Line-vw5io I only stated my opinion. Nobody has to follow it. If you want a comfy fast cruiser, an Alpina is a great choice. If you want to enjoy driving fast on country or mountain roads, the M is a far better choice. It depends what you value.

@peterhammer6915

Жыл бұрын

@@SardanadzeGiorgiShorts 2000 B3? Thats based on E46? Thats one of the few Alpina model ranges, I never have driven. I had myself a E92 M3 and compared to the E92 Alpina the M3 was on another planet with its S65.

The Alpina has a sense of style and class that the M3 just cannot compete with.

@peterhammer6915

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. The Alpina is boring and has been since decades already. The lost their mojo already in the 90:s.

@harryspeakup8452

Жыл бұрын

@@peterhammer6915 People who want to be stared at can always buy the M3

@perpetualintellectual2026

Жыл бұрын

But the engine of the m3 is on another level. The b58 is mighty though

@hjd5973

Жыл бұрын

@@perpetualintellectual2026 S58

@anthoolivier6638

Жыл бұрын

@@perpetualintellectual2026 same engine. the B3 has a M3 engine, not a M340 engine

I’d rather have the Alpina, and it’s not even a close decision!

In my opinion, this Alpina looks better than the facelift one. I like the notch in the headlights, and I prefer the non -inverted DRLs

@Franzino

Ай бұрын

100% true...

It reminds me of the green triangle sweet in quality street for some reason 😂

Alpina all the way!

£100 ish K with a few options is bonkers. Considering the M340i is a 4.4 to 60 and 350 brake, it’s nearly half price without the beaver face. They’ll sell by bucket loads and a 3 year old one will be half price. Another great review, love Harry’s laconic style.

@PixelVogue

Жыл бұрын

its all about options these days, Porsche are the main rip off merchants!

@ahemgee9542

Жыл бұрын

The many differences in the chassis, awd system , interior plus the S58 in both stock and tuned forms make the M3 Touring a lot more special . I'd take a the B3 Touring over the M3 though . M340 Is quick but not that exciting. Also an s58 with JUST stage 1 /2 makes 650/700 hp plus!

@tiguanman1170

Жыл бұрын

It's not the £100k that matters. It's the monthly lease that's the decider.

@Jackbyrne77

Жыл бұрын

Great video Harry thank you. Horrendous car and for that price.

@skiptastic1000

Жыл бұрын

peasants

The B3 ALPINA IS GORGEOUS

No matter the money, the cachet, the performance, I’ll never buy an ugly vehicle. For all that money, a buyer should never have to swallow that price tag, “despite” its looks, and not because of its looks. Enough said.

@nstarmore

Жыл бұрын

Nail on head. I know looks are subjective but being so willingly obnoxious with the styling and then having the brass to basically say that anyone who doesn't like it isn't the sort of customer they want is just inexcusable. Anyone willing to overlook this attitude and then pay way over the odds for what is otherwise a pretty unremarkable car needs their head checked.

@anconablue72

Жыл бұрын

a tenth of a Million pounds ...wonder what it'll be worth in 3 years time ?

@DueVolvi

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! The E46 should have been an M3, this is too little too late (and too ugly)

@helplmchoking

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't hate it as much as I did when they released that grille but I definitely don't like it, I'd consider it livable especially given the quality of the rest of the car (near 2 ton weight notwithstanding, that's just ridiculous). But as you say, I would hope that £100k buys more than "I can live with it". That's not regular car money, that's not even expensive mid-size saloon money anymore it's into proper luxury car figures and "it drives really well despite..." Isn't luxury in my eyes. Though, the e92 remains my favourite modern BMW design (which is why I still drive me 14 year old one with >100k miles) and lots of people seem to dislike that so maybe I just don't know what people with £100k budgets look for

I've been waiting for a comparison of these two. Great stuff as ever.

I'll have the Alpina every day

Thanks for all your videos Harry, I always look forward to your new posts. Thanks again

In the real word do we need a sharp Touring? My B5 spends most of its time in 'comfort plus'. I love it because it's smooth and effortless. I don't mind that it is a bit less performant than an M5 on the 5% of times I'm driving it hard. For the remaining 95% of the time it's the nicer place to be. I suspect many potential owners of this type of car can afford to have something sharper for the Sunday morning drives.

@andyintegrale

Жыл бұрын

Feel the same about my B3 touring. The better option, if not ultimately the better performance car, for 99% of the time.

It‘s sad that he only showed very little about the Alpina. :(

The B3 is the one to have. Gorgeous all around.

The videos we've all been waiting for 🙏🙏🙏

I feel like everyone cried out for an M3 touring for years and now they actually brought one out, most people are finding something to complain about it seems in the comments! Great review though Harry!

@pnourani

Жыл бұрын

We don't even get the touring in the US. Buy hey at least we still get the overpriced M8.

@TheChannel1978

Жыл бұрын

So true. If I was a wagon fan I'd be all over this. Price seems a little crazy but the rest looks ace to me.

Please do a full review on the Alpina, Harry!

@Franzino

Ай бұрын

YES please!

Massively thanks for a second video on the week!!

Thanks Harry another wonderful car, i like these cars that are quick and practical but it's interesting that getting in and out is tricky.

Love the Alpina...

Thanks a lot, always enjoy the Sunday night videos. Cheers.

Those slow mo shots look epic especially in glorious sunlight! Another joy of a watch Harry

Harry's reviews are always honest, and without bias. That's what is so engaging about this channel. Harry could buy pretty much any car he reviews yet he remains so focused and thorough its a breath of fresh air. Harry I salute you sir Awesome channel and may it continue and grow like trees in the Kielder forest 🤙

@carleddison7479

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Hitchens I think he must mean, "objective".

@future62

Жыл бұрын

You meant "objective". Nobody is perfectly objective, even Harry. But his opinions come from a place of experience and logic, with no need for clickbait or other nonsense. It is refreshing to see.

Love the Alpina over M4, come on Harry do a review !

Thanks Harry, great review as always, keep well.

Wow it's great to be able to see the information on the BMW screens, not flashing constantly like an sf90

Great review as ever. Only wish would have been in car footage of the Alpina as well for direct comparison.

I like the sedate look of the Alpina

That M3 Competition Touring is bold and stunning! Love it. Great color too! Thanks for sharing Harry.

I love that the client has to pay extra for badges to celebrate their anniversary 😂. Noted that BMW have retained the bargain basement rear headrests 😂

“You are lucky to be ugly, that way you know people love you for who you are on the inside.” ~ Drax the Destroyer, speaking to the current M3

Great review, thanks! Are you planning to do one on the Alpina - I think most of us would be quite keen on that.

@chrisslater3174

Жыл бұрын

There was a promise of a comparison at the beginning, and I was looking forward to exactly that. So disappointed when it didn't arrive!

@andrewcameron1050

Жыл бұрын

Surely @harrysgarage put one in the can while he had it in the garage

Great review as always, one of the few people I can really trust. Regarding the M modes, if you have them set up with MDM/DSC off, at least in the iDrive 7 cars you must double-press the M1/M2 button, I guess as a safety measure so that you don't reduce DSC by accident.

The B4437 towards Charlbury in the Cotswolds seems to be a very popular destination among KZread car reviewers. That probbly explains the lovely high rev engine noise I used to hear when working in Ascott a couple of years back. Nice piece of road. And great review as usual, Harry. 🙂🤘

@martinfletcher8275

Жыл бұрын

Among bikers its part of the cotswold TT circuit

I've been looking forward to this car for a while, there's something about a BMW tourer that has always worked for me. That said...I think I might respect this one more than I love it. Like a lot of people, the looks aren't my cup of tea, and that's a hell of a price tag too. Great performance by the sound of it, but I'm happy with my (2018) RS4 even if it's a bit outgunned now.

Great to see the slow mo shots!

Great review. Beautiful M3. Thanks Harry.

The upper spur on the side mirrors is to prevent wind noise in the cabin. It works too and has been on M3s since the E9X cars. My Sunday evening ritual is watching the new Harry’s video while cooking Sunday dinner.

@judebrown2672

Жыл бұрын

Meee too. They're great.

@chrisjames7803

Жыл бұрын

its to catch and compact snow into balls that enter your cabin when you decide to open the window just enough for it to cannonball in......

Hi Harry A big ask. As you have been driving the Alpina, could you do a short video on the comparison, as so many comments have said Alpinas are so overlooked. Keep up the great work 👍

Great review Harry

Harry thank you for this video, if I had the chance I'd have either one of those cars, I prefer the higher profile of the M3 tyre/wheel combination to the Alina's, however I like the "more grunt" of the Alpina engine. Though for living with, I'd have a "saucy diesel" ..... anyhow thanks again.

I dont understand the point of spending so much money on a machine so ugly.

I am so glad to see you remain a critic of the current BMW grill for the M3 & 4 Series coupe. So many reviewers are now saying they are "warming" to the look. It's very much like the "Emperor's New Clothes" syndrome where rather than fall out with BMW & not get a vehicle to review, they are accepting the new design language.

@booboo1178

Жыл бұрын

It's beauuuutiful .. really don't get the negativity tbh. Check the bland grills on 99% of cars these days ..

@koosgijsman

Жыл бұрын

Taste is personal.. I’ve liked the new front from day one and in a few years other manufacturers will be copying it..

Great review as usual. Would love to see a full review of the Alpina! Please get one in Alpina Green! It's a classier version of the M3 Isle of Man Green

I like the touring version in the green paint, nice 6 cylinder turbo every day driver, I could live with the front. Thanks Harry

Would love to see your thoughts on how the Alpina drives!

Would love to see any Alpina content on the channel.

Weirdly learnt something about Audi I didn’t know before in this video. I always assumed they stuck the engine so far forward because it was their design philosophy that they just refused to change. That it’s for the Quattro system makes so much sense now!

Watch your vids every Sunday and also Harry's Farm. They are the only reviews I watch now as they are always honest and fair. Can I ask will you be reviewing the new SL? It's soft top now so was just wondering your thoughts on it. All the best. Cheered me up after a terrible England 6 Nations this Saturday.......

The alpina looks so good.

That alpina is perfect any chance of a full video on it. Very classy.

I really want an M5 and nothing is going to sway me 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@colinpaton3770

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

I’d love to see a comparison table each time Harry mentions the noise reading, with previous cars and their readings visible.

Great video. It would be interesting to see the result of a reverse pricing strategy from BMW. Take off all the unnecessary expensive electrical adjustments (it’s a road car), keep the power and reduce the price. Personally I preferred the look of the Alpina, that is a special car. I would love to see a Harry’s Garage feature dedicated to an Alpina review. Very enjoyable viewing👍

@secretsquirrel3793

Жыл бұрын

Porsche did it with the original CS cars; don't see why BMW couldn't follow their lead, as you say.

One of the most useful features on any car i've ever owned is the split tailgate hatch on the 3 series touring. So easy just to pop it open and chuck stuff in. The M3 Touring looks so good at the rear, I simply can't get over the front styling and it's even worse in person.

GREAT Video harry. That's it. That's shocked ya , hasn't it 😊😊😊

Just what I needed !

Have been fortunate to drive a few M cars and Alpinas. Alpina every day in my opinion. Classy.

"I don't understand where BMW are going with their styling." In common with other car manufacturers in recent years they're featuring a ridiculously oversized front grille so to cater to the Chinese market where such a thing is popular.

Hi Harry, Please do a review of the e63 AMG wagon for comparison. Thank you for the great channel!!

nice video with the slowmotion

£300 to have those stupid badges? No thanks. They should pay me.

Worth noting there is a newer B3 with the same infotainment and a power hike to 495hp

I never take anyone else's word. Thanks Harry. All the adjustments I'd spend hours fiddling & testing, finding a happier medium and using that. Then, forgetting what adjust what and going through it again, for the two M buttons! Did I see an 'M Sound' option when you were scrolling through the menus before your setoff? Interesting, if they have a 'symposer' on the car, why would it need it?

Great video as always, but wouldn't the steering liven up a bit if it was not in comfort? Or do you mean that in sport the steering just stiffens up without giving any road feedback?

Great review as usual. I can't help but think that cars are too configurable these days, it all seems pretty overwhelming

@TheChannel1978

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the drive mode switch works to toggle all settings in tandem. If it does then it's all good I think and the individual settings are just there to program your M1 and M2 buttons (if you wish).

@helplmchoking

Жыл бұрын

I will say, while I generally agree that nobody driving on the road needs adjustable brake modes, it's not as bad as it seems. You basically set it up once and have m1 for your comfort settings and m2 for your sporty one then it's just essentially just like a single sport button. Still a lot of settings, but you'll never actually have to use them. Actually a bit like the touch only climate controls. I don't like the trend away from physical controls, but I think my only interaction with anything climate in my car has been toggling AC on when it's off and hitting recirculate in a tunnel. Temps and such don't actually change really and I haven't touched the fan speed in a solid year. So while it's all a bit over the top, once you're a week or two into ownership it's probably all stuff you wouldn't even need to look at

Still take the Alpina all day long in green over tan 👌

Everyone who owns a B7 Audi RS4 Avant is laughing right now. It was the pinnacle of the fast estate car. They should look quiet and discreet, full sleeper so average folks have no idea what it can do. Just a slight flare to the arches and some nice wheels, but the rest of the body looks stock. It should be able to be comfortable for everyday use, and then just a simple 'sport' button to sharpen things up. That's it, no endless menus for tweaking. The engineers should do that for you from the factory, that's what you're paying for. All those options seem like an opportunity to make it worse if you don't know what you're doing. At this point I'm fully convinced the best cars we will ever see were already built between 2005 and 2010. Modern enough to be reliable with great performance, but without all the screens/tech/rubbish that make new cars too heavy and complicated.

@TheBoySwift

Жыл бұрын

I do wonder what the future will hold for cars like this. All that tech just seems like a liability once you’re out of the warranty period. I know you could say the same for the B7 RS4 with the DRC but cars like this seem much more complex.

Great review. Love the M3. Thinking of getting one!! May be a few months old could be the sensible choice. Are they the same roads that another BMW you tuber uses??? ( How's the osr looking??)

Looking through the comments I may be the only one but I think the M3 in that colour looks epic. I hated that grill when it was first released but yeah really get used to it now.

This is the video everyone wanted Harry never disappoints 🤤😍

Such a great sound!

i love the new m3 / m4 front design. especially in this green.

Harry, i think the price you were quoting for the Alpina is now out of date. Probably based on the older B3 that you had. A sensibly specced M3 is circa £90000 and a similarly specced new B3 is now a bit more than that. But you can probably get a new B3 before an M3 at the moment. Keep up the great reviews.

I’d like to see a review video of the Alpina. 🙏

Hi Harry great review. Two potential options for me, could we have a review of the b3 touring please?! Not many about and your views are very respected. Many thanks.

I agree with you about those seats.

I’ll take the B3 over the M any day of the week. That thing is absolutely perfect.

Are indicators standard or optional ? 🤣

@stevemawer848

Жыл бұрын

On subscription! 🙂

@PerfDayToday

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemawer848 ‘keep full’ blinker fluid reservoir subscription.

Great video, with high quality comments giving an idea of driving experience! Muscle car usable as a daily with family are becoming scarce, and I guess thousands of dads are wanting a last good thermic and ready to make a sacrifice for it! What does help is class, discretion, comfort (Madam will appreciate), with the beast remaining hidden in town and in front of the school! A high price is also easier to justify when feeling everything will hold 15 years (not the lifespan of these big screens...dangerous as well, the driver must be able to look at the road instead of watching TV) An Alpina with old style instruments and manual would be near the perfection.

cheers Harry

That B3 absolutely walks it, in terms of looks.

@michaelfraser5723

Жыл бұрын

Alas it can't, er walk, in terms of anything, ask Clarkson

Very solid traditional review Harry.👍

Great video as always Harry, thank you. Personally not so sure on the new style of dashboards that many seem to be using, the long screen just looks tacky when compared to a decent flowing dashboard.

@wrends

Жыл бұрын

lets be honest, it looks hideous!

Great review as always. Can you review the 2023 BMW M8 comp?

I’m an RS4 owner. It’s my first time owning anything of this quality. It’s a shame that both of these cars would absolutely smoke me, but my RS4 is beautiful and I wouldn’t change it!

Forgot to mention the button that allows you to undertake, run red lights, don’t thank people when they give way, never give way and on it goes. Great vid as always.👍

@davidedwards6352

Жыл бұрын

if your being undertaken, you're in the wrong lane haha

@leehayes70

Жыл бұрын

@@davidedwards6352 not if I’m doing the speed limit.

@davidedwards6352

Жыл бұрын

@@leehayes70 if you're in the overtaking lane and not overtaking you're in the wrong lane regardless of speed.

@leehayes70

Жыл бұрын

@@davidedwards6352 wrong again…especially if it’s a split junction with a turn coming needing to filter right. Undertaken then cut in. Bad road manners usually leading to road rage in many cases. BMW drivers, Audi drivers and Seat drivers being the worst offenders.. No patience, no manners. Not all but a lot of them.

@davidedwards6352

Жыл бұрын

@@leehayes70obviously at junctions etc but we both know i mean simply driving along the motorway in the outside lane when there's no traffic infront of you. I see it everyday going to and from work. That's why the motorways don't work in this country. keep left.

Obviously M3's quicker but B3 looks way better and in/outside and it's design WILL age better as well.

@nealcromwell

Жыл бұрын

Quicker ? 0 to 60 by a fraction top end no so 👍

@thewaldfe9763

Жыл бұрын

Well, through corners it will be considerably quicker, but who buys a wagon to drive it on a race track?

A full alpina b3 review would be greatly appreciated!

Great video as always. Those potholes are getting bigger.....

As someone who owns a car were the different drive modes only depend on in what mood I am, I have always wondered if people who got cars with this much options ever spend the time to acctually change them, or just pic one that seems ok and then stick with it... I just want to get in my car and go, not spend 15 minutes or so with settings - and surely, I can't be alone feeling like that, can I? Like you, I still have a hard time to accept that nose... but I like the rear a lot and the green colour is super nice! ... Apart from not hiding the nose, like a black car would, that is...

@ShaiyanHossain

Жыл бұрын

at this point you need a computer science degree to make sense of the plethora of options in m cars now

@sanyadau77

Жыл бұрын

Not really, ur overthinking it the ownership lasts years u need 10mins to perfectly sync it with your taste… get over it lol

@TheChannel1978

Жыл бұрын

I would surprised if M3s don't come with the usual drive mode switch that toggles everything in tandem. So you don't need to fiddle with it.

I like how there's been a Renaissance of estate/station wagons of late. All the fun of saloon car with the practicality of hatchback.

Excellent point about the 'dead' steering feel. It's my only gripe about our now somewhat older BMW 335i. Such a pity, as the hydraulic steering on the previous generation let you place 3 series very exactly into a corner. Progress? I think not!

Harry, Id love to see an in depth review of the B3. I find it an intriguing car....