All the earlier reformers were so brave and we have them to thank for so much of the work of God in our lives.

@marbanlaysonchannel7018

Жыл бұрын

@@Unknown86483 they never prove in history. But Catholic first persecute Servetus but he escape.

@CRACKBONE7317

Жыл бұрын

@@Unknown86483 That's not actually true. John Calvin warned Servetus, several times, not to come to Geneva because Servetus *was* a heretic, and the Genevans would have killed him. Servetus came anyway, and, lo, the Genevans killed him. John Calvin had very little to do with Servetus' death. The city council ruled that he should die.

@KnightFel

3 ай бұрын

@@Unknown86483 ok so I guess everyone’s a heretic since everyone burned each other for heresy lol. Also Calvin didn’t himself burn servetus, Servetus was repeatedly warned and he ignored those warnings to his own peril.

@eugenejoseph7076

2 ай бұрын

Calvin didn't 'warn' him, he threatened him. Reformers tried to reform the Catholic Church, because they couldn't tell the difference between the true Gospel and the evil Catholic church. The Lord told Peter that the gates of Hell will not prevail against his Church (the true church). Therefore, no one is certain as to why Luther and all the following reformers thought they were saving the 'church' that The Lord Jesus said would stand until His return? The only thing the Reformation did was make the Word of God more accessible to the masses, it did not 'save the 'the Gospel' as though the Gospel needed saving. Now reformers preach heresy and a deluded man made theology created by men. Jesus told us He would send a Helper (John 16) who would LEAD US INTO ALL TRUTH! The Helper was not a man, a reformer, a charismatic preacher, a miracle worker, a great Evangelist, etc etc! He was God through His Holy Spirit.

As far as brother Klaus goes, for some spiritual, not practical reason I perceive that it would had been better for God’s kingdom to stay with his family and educate his children as disciples of Christ, since Jesus commanded us to go and make disciples, not to isolate ourselves from others who need us, if God wanted him for himself he would have called him single, not after having 10 children and a wife, sometimes I think there is a kind of mysticism that’s dangerous, he could have gone 40 days in isolation to seek God but not for the rest of his life. The presence of the father in a big family is a must

@dorcaswalker1867

2 жыл бұрын

Many of the apostles were married and had children but they left there families to spread the gospel. Many holy men and women left their families and spouses to become monks, hermits etc

@jesusistheanswer2074

Жыл бұрын

@@dorcaswalker1867 what ones had children before they left?

@kenjajo577

Жыл бұрын

@Particular Psalmody u

@d.m.hubble2591

Жыл бұрын

Lovely when someone presumes to know what God would do.

@thinkingman07

Жыл бұрын

Well said

Jesus himself settles the dispute: In John 6:54 & 63 He clearly states, "Whoso eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternal life...it is the Spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life." And again in 1 Corinthians 11:23 & 24 He says after breaking the bread, "Take, eat, this is my body which is broken for you: this do IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME." So we see it is symbolic only.

I do admire Calvin's writings. And I feel like I agree with him in most things about christ jesus.

@davidchumney

2 жыл бұрын

So you believe some are predestined to Heaven and the rest to hell without free will? We have free will and the choice to make. Calvin's TULIP is heresy when the Lord straight up said that He would have all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. Just something to consider. This is your Piper and Macarthur teachings. Works salvation. Might as well be Catholic with that thought process...

@chadsmith7130

2 жыл бұрын

“ for all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth “I believe that was Paul writing to Timothy, a few things also to consider, and that is the question, is man’s free will rule supreme over Gods will? If Paul’s writing is to means what you are alluding to then God is subject to man’s free will, or “choice”to believe or reject, because scripture is clear some go to hell therefore not all ( everyone who ever lived) comes to believe or is to be saved. Furthermore Paul was talking to believers in that letter meaning all the believers, then and in the future will be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. I’ll put it in layman’s terms, or give an analogy if you will, if I buy “all” the paper cups does mean I have bought all the paper products?

@malcolmscrivener8750

8 ай бұрын

@@davidchumneyRead your Bible , David . Every word of the Bible . Old Testament AND New Testament . When you read about God killing millions of people through history , ask yourself , Did He love them all and have a wonderful plan for their lives ? Read in 2 Kings 21 where He killed one hundred and eighty five thousand Assyrians in a night and tell yourself , God loves everyone . Did He not drown the entire population of the world except for Noah and his family on the Ark ? Read how God hardened Pharaohs heart so He could demonstrate His power when He drowned the whole Egyptian army in the Red Sea . Consider the rebellious Israelites God slaughtered wandering in the wilderness under Moses and Aaron , and the entire cities of Sodom and Gomorrah that were burned in their perversion . This list goes on and on through the whole of Gods word and shows that God is Almighty and holy and pure and severely punishes the unrighteous . Read Ephesians and see how Mankind is chosen by God and has no power or desire to choose God . Read Romans to discover the truth about Mans fallen , sinful condition and what He has done to redeem His children back to Himself . Read your whole Bible and stop cherry picking verses !

I just love these! ❤️😎

Brother Claus, he who doesn't take care of the members of his own family is worse than a pagan, yet the Romanists so-called Saint him. Blindness.

@klarity1111

Жыл бұрын

I don't know the details, but it is very likely that there was financial means to care for the family, and extended family members to help guide the children in their growing up years. In those days, extended family was much stronger and more abundant than now, and they did look after each other.

@bradleymcdonald6273

9 ай бұрын

yep He is the type who is puffed up in their sensuous mind ... going on about heavenly visions - worshipping angels - going deep into ascetism... if he followed Jesus and did not go beyond what was written... he would of stayed with his family and not abandon them... because THAT is being christ-like... THAT is denying yourself Matthew 5:31-32 31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 1 Corinthians 7:10-24 10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. 21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you-although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.

@goatfarmmb

Ай бұрын

if it wasn't for Brother Klaus the old Swiss Confederation would of ended in Civil war back in his day and his oldest son was old enough to take over the farm and his wife allowed him to follow god and he did come back into the area after a vision where he stayed all of his life, his wife sometimes visited him in the chapel

American Christianity is in left FIELD. 2 Tim 3 :16-17. Another thing I would like to mention is that GOD'S Infallible word and PROVIDENCE is left out. Can't you see we always give credit to mankind's achievement and not to God's providence.

@davidchumney

2 жыл бұрын

So you don't think the Lord had a hand in anything to do with the events that led up to and during the reformation?

@ChivalrousVeteran

2 жыл бұрын

they meant that the video itself did not make it abundantly clear what was the hand of God in it; and of that i must agree: it said a lot about the workings of men, but scarce little attention and meditation was given to know The Lord God's hand in it ... that, it would seem, is up to us to seek out and to know for ourselves!

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

@@davidchumney reformation took the west further away from God. Look into The Orthodox Church, Rome broke away from The Church in 1000s. Christ said he left A Church and wouldn't abandon it, he hasn't. Only Orthodox Church can say it's been in non stop existence since Christ.

Yes they made mistakes and yet the reformers are my heroes from Luther to Zwingli - they thought the demonic cult some call Catholicism- free enterprise, real law, emancipation from a state church monstrum etc. was achieved by the reformation. May all activity point to God!

@emmanuelmalekanichisanga5745

2 жыл бұрын

All the magisterial reformers, including Luther, Zwingli and Calvin, established state churches and persecuted those who didn't agree with them.

@MitzvosGolem1

2 жыл бұрын

Mein Kampf quotes and follows Luther.

@BurningTheLife

Жыл бұрын

@@MitzvosGolem1 Oh my gawd he quoted Luther, therefore Luther must be evil!! 🤡

@MitzvosGolem1

Жыл бұрын

@@BurningTheLife Luther said to put Jews in labor camps then burn them and their books.. seriously Obviously you are not well educated..

@erc9468

9 ай бұрын

@@emmanuelmalekanichisanga5745 They did , as this was the system for over a thousand years. You can’t expect people to reform everything all at once. They were great men, but they were only men.

I love William Tyndale.❤️❤️❤️ But I didn't see him in this video. Or depiction.

The Gospel of salvation of our souls: 💜💕❤️❤️❤️💕 💕❤️💕❤️📖✝️🕎💡💡❤️❤️💞💜💕For what I received I passed on to you as of [first importance]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time,

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Wesley que viveu no seculo XVIII, tambem foi um grande lider protestante e, no seculo XX tambem teve o Reavivamento da Rua Azuza.

human justice as a reflection of divine justice.

A Movie made about me, I'm honored

Where’s the, law, where’s the grace. Without the gospel this is just a video on men doing work of themselves.

Martinho Lutero e Joao Calvino tinham visoes espirituais distintas porem, foram grandes reformadores do Cristianismo.

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

Reform...sadly they broke even further away. Rome broke from The Church, Orthodox, in 1000s. Lord Jesus Christ have mercy.

Commercial ads cutting in every 6 minutes on a religious documentary is a bizarre joke!

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

No it's planned, they're trying to break your resolve. I've called out Amazon more than once....I would order a religious book and in short order my email would be swamped with porn crap. Amazon Admitting they were responsible for explosion of porn to my email ! They'll let you buy a religious book than do everything possible to break your decision, your will. And so KZread will tolerate certain videos but they will do what they can to break you of picking such topics either by irrigation or distracting you into another topic.

@juniperabbott2614

11 күн бұрын

that is weird

I'm pretty sure Calvin or Zwingli would have had "Brother" Klaus beat up for his behavior. And rightly so.

O evangelho de Cristo.

What caused these changes? Everything

Kiko Arguello " The Kerygma: In the shantytown with the poor"

The closing scene of this completely undermines the work of the Reformers. Sola Scriptura

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

Sola Scripture is NOT Biblical. Read the New Testament, highlight or write down every time Paul or another says, I have much to say but I want to say it face to face, remember what we taught you when we where with you.... Remember that Precious Bible your Sola Scripture is based on IS Tradition. The early church for nearly 300 years had letters from Apostles. It wasn't until St Athanasius gathered the known letters he could, he sorted out the questionable ones, Revelation bearly made it in and in The Orthodox Church its not read in a public service. He presented the Canon, aka, New Testament to bishops, who concurred with Athanasius and about year 300 is when 'The NEW Testament ' official came about.

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

BTW JESUS is Lord.

All they suffered through as also Christ, and we are too often afraid to live our faith?

I have much consternation about Luther‘s concept of limited atonement and how he ostensibly defined elect & unelect (I had learned a different interpretation based upon a sentence diagram in Hebrew that I need to learn to see if I can support it or not) but otherwise he is a person of the faith that seems quite trustworthy. My own belief is that the German word should never have been adopted for scripture translations to English. God is about personal faith first (not corporate). The Jews got it wrong when they refused God on Mt. Sinai and then again when they asked for a king. We need to organize first ad families and then as a local fellowship. We can meet in larger assembly when deemed necessary but maintaining the larger organizations leads to corruption and must stop.

Laus Deo !

So, basically, Brother Klaus abandoned his wife and several children. He's not someone to be admired. Zwingli and Calvin were great Reformers, so it's odd to include Nicholas of Flüe in this documentary. There's nothing admirable about abandoning your family, and there's certainly no biblical basis for a wife "releasing" her husband. It's all pathetic.

Calvin believes this to mean that calvation comes only by God's mercy!French theligian was a pastor and reformator...

This didn’t exactly paint a great picture of the reformation.

God doesn't call a father of 10 ten to leave his wife.

@estelagonzalez5930

Жыл бұрын

Mt 10:37

@bradleymcdonald6273

9 ай бұрын

He is the type who is puffed up in their sensuous mind ... going on about heavenly visions - worshipping angels - going deep into ascetism... if he followed Jesus and did not go beyond what was written... he would of stayed with his family and not abandon them... because THAT is being christ-like... THAT is denying yourself... to take up your cross... is to suffer for the sake of love... not run away from the world and hide away with God alone in a cave... Jesus - The Son of God - left his Father to be with his wife - His People - He didn't divorce us and seek his own glory “Though he was in the form of God, [he] did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant [or slave], being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death.” Being a servant to others is not far above us... to serve your wife and your children is GODLY... leaving your family... abstaining from food or drink... does not merit any special favour from God. 18Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. 20Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. 21Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged. Matthew 5:31-32 31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 1 Corinthians 7:10-24 10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. 21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you-although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.

@tebelshaw9486

8 ай бұрын

​@@bradleymcdonald62731Timothy 5:8

Men don't abandon their families even "for God". That is so messed up. That's what Buddha did

@estelagonzalez5930

Жыл бұрын

Mt 10:37

@BurningTheLife

Жыл бұрын

@@estelagonzalez5930 Jesus was using hyperbole here and you are interpreting the verse in a literal way

@bradleymcdonald6273

9 ай бұрын

@@BurningTheLife He is the type who is puffed up in their sensuous mind ... going on about heavenly visions - worshipping angels - going deep into ascetism... if he followed Jesus and did not go beyond what was written... he would of stayed with his family and not abandon them... because THAT is being christ-like... THAT is denying yourself... to take up your cross... is to suffer for the sake of love... not run away from the world and hide away with God alone in a cave... Jesus - The Son of God - left his Father to be with his wife - His People - He didn't divorce us and seek his own glory “Though he was in the form of God, [he] did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant [or slave], being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death.” Being a servant to others is not far above us... to serve your wife and your children is GODLY... leaving your family... abstaining from food or drink... does not merit any special favour from God. 18Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. 20Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. 21Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged. Matthew 5:31-32 31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 1 Corinthians 7:10-24 10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? 17 Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. 21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you-although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.

John 6 53 unless

is means is. Christ is present in the elements

No ! it Is blasphemy to think any sinful created living or dead could bring GOD JESUS CHRIST (KJV John 1:1-18,19:13) down to earth

Zwingli being that he openly fornicated and had children out of wedlock is a shock to see such a person included as a church father. This is truly sad to see his name on this list. How does one think that there could be a one who could be a friend with the world and serve God!

@kinche6380

7 ай бұрын

The Bible is full of the kind of David and Solomon ...and yet God still loved them. Don't we read their books in the Bible like proverbs...many chapters of psalms?

@eugenejoseph7076

2 ай бұрын

Maybe we should ignore the Psalm that King David wrote, because he was an adulterer and murderer!

Why do you think Calvin is a good church father ! When he burned people alive that would not recant to saying God is one,that there is one God ,and Jesus is that one God !

@timothykeith1367

2 ай бұрын

Do you have primary sources for what you have just said?

rather stick to old school prominent commentaries than these new aged stuff. Be awake in what you watch and learn., books that smell like mold is worth much more and study the writer of the book before you read.

John Calvin's my guy. So is Martin Luther.😎❤️Jesus Christ is Lord and God.

Exposed pa more.

Zwingly sounds like a they/them

Heretics