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The maxforce engine was made by Navistar and only found in International trucks, the Paccar engine is made by Paccar obviously and a better engine than the maxforce which was pretty much a POS. I am not a big Cummins fan but if I was buying a truck these days I would probably go with Cummins mostly because if you are somewhat mechanically inclined you can do a lot of work on it yourself and Cummins will supply the knowhow free with their Quickserve account and like you said there is a lot of shops that can work on them.
Back in the early 70's when I was a teenager growing up on a hay farm my dad bought a 53 Mack Thermodyne with a blown Cummins engine that had been sitting for a couple of years. Dad had been a mechanic in the Air Force. I helped him rebuild the engine and we had a cab-over for hay delivery that was classified as a farm vehicle that I could drive at 16 years old. Dad had never rebuilt a Cummins but he followed the factory service manual. It had 3 gear shifters so it had 24 forward gears. I ended up hauling freight with it as a summer job in Florida when I was in college. That job motivated me to get my Business Degree. Good pay but it was hard work for 12+ hours a day. And now I am in semi-retirement and driving CDL Hot-shot three to four days a week.
@bunnyman6321
Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌
How is it going JUSTIN , Do NOT forget to pull the plugs on the TRANSMISSIONS and the rear ENDS and see how much METAL is on the MAGNET , Do NOT forget to JACK the FRONT end up and take a BAR and put it in the rim and lift it up and down and see if the KINGPINS are wore out or NOT tie rods and so forth , Put some OIL in a cup go have it checked , Crawl underneath and SHAKE your drive lines up and down see if they are wore out , I can go on and on , The more you find the more the money drops off the truck , You let them know what you found that you have to replace and fix and say this is my offer take it or leave it
I had a MaxForce engine in my truck , backed up real quick and hit the brakes it rolled of my pickup truck bed at the scrapyard .
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
Good morning sir..may GOD continue to bless you and your family. Your videos are awesome..keeping the family close and always including them is the definition of a man with integrity..I live down the street from you in CLEMSON SC..Born and raised in Seneca..been in and around trucking from 1983 to present..you provide valuable information from purchase to maintenance. You set the bar high and that's where it belongs..You are always well prepared..your appearance and mannerisms are rare my friend ..let me pause my rambling...and get back to moving Would consider it an honor to meet you sir..Sending love and blessings from my family to yours. Sam I am..LATER....
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Sam appreciated fellow Trucker from SC 😎🙏🏽
I’m hoping all this information helps some people out there and gives them confidence in buying a truck and trailer!!! Keep up the awesome content and hopefully you’ll have the trailer back tomorrow so you can get some loads in before the holidays kick in!!!
@arlynesau2124
Жыл бұрын
Please stop calling a Paccar MX13 a Maxxforce, which is a Navistar product. Thanks
Great info for guys wanting to go on their own in trucking.
When there is a splitter on the side of the stick, you can tell what speed it is from the color of the splitter. Red-13 Blue-15 Grey-18 There is also the 10 over, I think it's a red splitter, but it doesn't have the hi/lo in the front because it's basically a 5 speed that you have to split every gear
@customconnections2425
2 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the 8LL
I think paccar owns Peterbilt and Kenworth which is why the new trucks are so similar.
Thanks for taking the time to help us newbies.
Great video! Thank you so much to spend your valuable time and make this video. It will help so many drivers in the industry.
This is a video any start up driver should watch. Any help is always good!! Hope they get your axle fixed and you find a load! I bet the brokers are wondering what happened to you!!! lol !!
Man what a helpful video. Seen quite a few on this subject and yours is by far the best.
Hey Justin the mx motor is not a maxxforce motor the mx is paccar motor maxxforce was international motor which was actually a c13 cat internals and block international head and emission controls. Cat sold the rights to international. To each his own but stay away from emission motors and for sure stay away from cummins they are nicknamed cumapart for a reason. I've got one 12.7 detroit and two c15 cats inframed the detroit with head for around 15000.00 done the cats with head for around 18500.00 each. The transmission shifter has a red spliter button it's a 13 speed if the spliter is blue it's a 15 speed (don't make those trans anymore) if spliter is grey it's an 18 speed. Which a 13 and 18 speeds are nothing but a glorified 9 speed with auxiliary box on back of trans. My advice stay away from emission motors it's cheaper to inframe and maintain the non emission motors plus they last longer and they get better fuel economy.
@BrandonEht
Жыл бұрын
Not the biggest fan of emission motors myself, but if I were to buy one it would definitely not be a Cummins. DD13 all the way
Appreciate these super informative videos breaking down the nitty gritty. Very impactful. Thank you.
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
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To add to what has been said, if you’re buying a truck newer than 09-10, the chances of finding a CAT engine will be slim, as Caterpillar got tired of trying to do the EPA’s emissions dance and so stopped making commercial truck engines in 2010.
@tylerrobinson6158
Жыл бұрын
All cats that was built with aftertreatment on it are complete shit. Ard heads once a year and all types of issues
@808monster1
Жыл бұрын
they still make late model engines you can buy as crate motors. comes with warranty as well like c15
@lovingmymamalighter102
Жыл бұрын
Yeah after 2006 the Cat engines went to crap, they closed down the Mossville engine plant where i worked and moved it to Texas. The Cat 3406 Acert from 2006 and older is the BEST ENGINE.
Thank you Justin for your content. I hope to buy my truck next year and your channel has been helpful
@JustTruckin
Ай бұрын
Glad to help 😎🙏🏽
Thanks for the info Justin be safe out there
Loved this video been driving over two years and wanting to fulfill my dream of getting my custom w900. Long way rings but motivated. This was also the best video yet amazing work.
I run day cabs now, but my last OTR was a 16 Cummins pro star, the factory APU was fine @ 30-40 degrees, but could not cut the mustard on a 0 degree north Wisconsin evening, and there wasn't a trick in the book to over ride the auto shutdown system, ugh, and screw DPF, had a plain jane 06 9400, was the best truck I ever ran :)
Great informative video. This is going to help first time buyers. Truck it safe Justin 😎
Hopefully I get on rolling in my own truck soon. Thank you for the good information 🤙💪💯
@kme5925
Жыл бұрын
Get a glider truck
This vid really helped me out I recently just bought a truck yesterday a 2000 Frieghtliner classic, rebuilt engine everything looks good your vid help me thanks
@FDXTRUCKER79
Жыл бұрын
Great buy,,these old trucks run 4ever,,i bougt a 96 pete 10 years ago for $4k,still works everyday,,Good luck
Man I missed watching your video during the time I was on my CDL school!!!! Great video and thanks again to share with us 🔥 15:44 ''you suppose to got it with the 13-speed when it's a RED spliter '' ✌
E G R… exhaust Gas Recirculated 😊😊😊, love you guys … stay safe , hope your trailer gets done soon, and you get a great load, from central Illinois
I learned to drive a twin stick 6x4 dual allison peter powered by an international v8, yes a v8! non turbo. She was old, but gosh I loved the rocket science it took to learn how to start the thing rolling and running efficiently. Unfortunately I couldn't pull a full dry van and had to stick to 60 ton or less since I drove the Virginia mountains. After that I graduated to a decked out Peterbuilt where my boss straight up told me I had to polish her every week and send him a picture. 10/10 work horse show truck right there. Too bad the company folded. After that I picked up for swift and left the industry 2 months later. I still get phone calls form companies wanting to pull me back in, but honestly I just commit to the life style anymore. Trucking isn't just a career, it's a life style. I'm glad Justin is out showing it for what it is.
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the story bud that’s awesome
Yeah i worked at the Caterpillar Mossville Engine Plant as a hot test specialist, which i would hook up the engines to the dyno's and run em thru the process and in 2007 i had a fire in my test cell almost EVERY NITE due to the new emissions control BS they were trying to get in order. All of 2005-2006 we got unlimited overtime cause they were pushing out all the Cat 3406's they could before the new emissions of the 2007. The older 3406 Cats were in my opinion the BEST ENGINE EVER!
Much appreciated learnt a lot from your videos
I tested in a 05 freightliner columbia day cab with a Detroit 60 serious and eaton fuller 10 speed and it was hooked up to a 48’ tempte hopper bottom.
I’m a retired old timer so my driving days are over! I enjoy watching the different channels on KZread! Justin you put good information out there ! Good job!
@JTDyer21
Жыл бұрын
Retired old timer? That's not what I heard. It's time you come out of retirement and get busy. No where is it written we are to retire. You run 3,000 miles a week bro and please be safe.
@keith3694
Жыл бұрын
@@JTDyer21 Tks for those kind words! My time as much as I hate say and admit is over! God bless you and be safe!! Keith
@ADilson-wz7jm
11 ай бұрын
Preciate ur service old skool!
@keith3694
11 ай бұрын
@@ADilson-wz7jm thank you!
As a diesel mechanic for 10yrs I can tell you that paccar is a sister company of cummins almost everything is interchangable with the Cummins and their good engines not the most powerful but their great work horses and more affordable
Any Peterbilt or KW dealer can work on an MX13, same as having to go to Freightliner to get work done on a new DD15. I’m 120k miles into my second MX13 with no issues, sold my previous truck a year ago with 600k on an MX13 and had no issues with it. Both ones were 510/1850.
@chrismoody5977
Жыл бұрын
What can of Fuel Mileage U Where Seeing?
@bradj7900
Жыл бұрын
@@chrismoody5977 My current truck is 7.67mpg for the year. I track my fuel mileage on paper every time I fill up. Weight is never a concern for me so if I’m stopping for fuel I top the tanks off all the way and fill my def.
@anthony1636
Жыл бұрын
@@chrismoody5977 Hi My average has been 7.8 mpg. I will take that all day long. And as for reliability I cannot fault the MX13. I am now on my third Pete with the MX13 and for sure I will continue with this set up.
@chrismoody5977
Жыл бұрын
@@anthony1636 What’s You HP And Torque Rating, Do U Have A Long Nose Pete Or A Aero Pete ?
@connorbaz5980
Жыл бұрын
@@bradj7900 what truck? I'm getting from 7.5 to 9-ish in my company Cascadia (turned down somewhat) depending on the load and terrain.
Best video ever to help me get a strong idea what to look for. Thank you
Hey brother , I really appreciate all the information on your channel I really appreciate your channel and your family. Keep up the good work.
A lot of good info here man. Awesome job putting this together!
We have had the MX Paccar motors here in NZ for while now. While I am a Cummings fan the MX is a good solid motor. We have trucks in our fleet that have a million kms on a motor that is still working and still not had a rebuild. It you ate right you need a good shop that knows their stuff.
Great info brother thx for all of it. By summer I'll be looking because market is getting flooded with tractors. Def will check out green APU too
@JustTruckin
5 ай бұрын
Glad it helped 😎🙏🏽
Thank you, very informative and advanced advices, definitely like!!
Thanks bro right I’m looking into buying my first truck🙏🏻 been watching you for the past 3 years.
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Glad to help man appreciate it
Great video, thanks for sharing all this information.
Nice truck man that engine is very clean. Bravo 👏🏽. I start school for trucking this week
The best engine for o/o is series 60 pre 2003 the six 15 has cam wear on lobes, intake rockers. I have one apart and more on the lot, I'm a o/o and truck mechanic
JUSTIN your wife is lucky to have u u workaholic 😆 🤣 God bless hopefully these times get better for the industry
Thank you for sharing this! Really help a novice like me a lot!
These guys on fb are smoking angel dust. Tryna sell an old truck with high miles and salvage title for 40k
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Жыл бұрын
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4 out of 7 of my semi trucks I owned were salvage no problems with them one had a front end damage nothing crazy one had a new cab because it rolled on its side as long as you stay away from a maxforce you will be fine an apu is key
Freight liner has a great automatic but I still prefer manual
This is great information thank you
Note the DDC DD 13-15-16 DPF one box has replaceable DPF filters and all components are replaceable. Many times techs replace entire components based on mileage Buying used get the shop to back up the filters. Most Freightliners are turned in by big flees at or near 500k Get a sales agreement on emissions devices of you can. I'd also request test drive with a tech and DL8 diagnostic running during the drive.any faults ask for repair first. This would be on any truck. Realize Freightliner and Western Star run Detroit and Cummins.
I know in Canada its different- most candaian trucks don't have APUs but do have a bunk heater, but I head if its like -45 degrees celsius - you have idle the truck the whole night or the next day it won't start
@bobh6728
Жыл бұрын
We plugged ours in if it was back at the terminal, but it wasn’t usually that cold.
Great video I took a lot of notes and yes the jailbreak is 807 HP
Very useful information. Thank you
Bro - the rock chip in your windshield made my eye Twitch the entire time! Thanks for sharing.
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for taking the time. New to your channel.
I drove both auto and manual. I prefer manual cause I like to have full control of my truck. From what I've heard, it's more costly to work on an automatic transmission. Also I have a 12.7 detroit and I love the motor, cheap on parts and alot of people can work on them.
18 speed has grey splitter button on the shifter, 13 speed has a red splitter button.. quick easy way to tell from outside🍻 EGR = Exhaust Gas Recirculation
Cats aren’t that bad to rebuild, cummins seems to run higher from those I’ve talked to. I have a cat and have talked to multiple people who have recently rebuilt theirs for mid 20’s. If you take it to cat it will be higher. Cummins seems to make it to the 6/700’s , a well maintained cat will make it to a million miles. Detroit seems to split the difference. Cats are definitely expensive to maintain but go further between rebuilds. Detroit is the cheapest, can rebuild those for less than 15. (60 series) best engines: cummins n14, detroit 60, cat 6nz
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Great info JP 😎🙏🏽
I have a car hauler like that purple one and I am also 6’5 and it’s not a comfortable sometimes but I love it. I have a paccar and the only problem I have with it is the def system it is horrible. But will get deleted after warranty is up
APU is a HUGE plus for sure. The opti-Idle and bunk heaters suck! I hated it in my ‘18 freightliner.
Probably the most informative, honest, insightful inside information anyone has ever offered in "any industry"! Sounds like Chris at Paccar Financial needed some extra time to get his ducks in a row. Hmmm....
Great information Bro, thanks for sharing
Alot of the new peterbilts have what's called smart air a 4 battery system apu from the factory runs ac for about 14 or so hours before it will automatically start the motor until batteries are charged
Subbed. I want to be you when I grow up. I love the mechanical, market, experience and regulatory knowledge you presented and I got no complaints on your delivery. And I complain A LOT 😂.
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Appreciate it 😎🙏🏽
Iv'e had all of them except the Paccar and maxforce I had several Cat and Cummins all good engines but I liked the Cat better, the last one I had was a 12.7 Detroit in a Freightliner loved that engine not as much puling power but very good mpg I got 7mpg hauling steel gross weight always 75-80000lbs very reliable and the smoothest running engine I ever drove. I drove an ISX 871 good engine but it sounded like a box of marbles idling also the fuel mileage wasn't that great pulled great and you can't beat the jakes on that engine.
Thank you. I just learned a lot.
@JustTruckin
5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
I like a manual Trans !! Especially in the Mountainous Areas !!!
All I can about used trucks from Penske, buyer beware. Not even two years since I had the truck, I am on second major repair. First, def sensors went out spent 13k. Second repair, coming around to 36k +/- right now. though I messed up and took it to Frieghtliner and they are charging out the butt on labor, 225 an hour. Plus, they messed up, left my truck hood unlatched, fuel tank open, and few other issues. I am hoping I can last a 2-4 more years with the Cascadia 125 I have and trader her in for a Volvo.
@JustTruckin
4 ай бұрын
Had my motor blow on my Ryder truck 1.5 years in 😑🙏🏽 it’s part of this industry 😞🙏🏽
I have Two M2-106 with Cat Motors without any issues we bought both Pre Emission @300,000 miles and both don’t use a drop of Oil or Leak a Drop Either they are Both Dump Trucks where we Run the heck out of them, we are definitely a Freight liner Fan the thing is Western Star, Mercedes, Volvo all owned by Daimler Chrysler
MX11 and MX13 with automated manual transmissions have been running in Europe for years with very few issues except for def/dpf trash...
@YARCHLRL
Жыл бұрын
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Sorry, kinda responding as I watch, but to tell which transmission a truck has between 10, 13, or 18 speed, the color of, or lack there of, of the side splitter. If there’s no side splitter, only the front one, it’s a 10. Red side splitter it’s a 13. Gray side splitter it’s a 18.
Had a 12.7 Detroit D Deck 4 1.3 million miles on it before in frame
POOR HYUNDAI 😂😂😂 Great vid ! Look to become an owner op this year thanks for the tips
My first truck, 1970 IH COE 4070A! Screaming 318, 13 speed under drive tranny.
Thanks this was very helpful
Thanks for the video. Currently a year in to my flatbed career . Plan to have 80k this year. Hoping to have 50k for down payment and 30k for uhoh money if I end up buying my own truck.
When i worked at the Caterpillar Mossville Engine Plant back in 2007 when the new emissions engine came out it was the downfall for Caterpillar and its engine division. We would have engines that would fail the hot test dyno testing and they would tell us to still ship it and they would fix as warranty work, hell they had trucks burn to the ground on tye highway. God knows i had fires in my test cell every nite when it came to the 2007 emission control engines.
My 2016 Volvo has 850Kmiles(more than 23k engine hours)on it and I haven’t needed to do an overhaul. I haven’t too many issues with the after treatment system either. I probably won’t be doing an overhaul until it reaches a million miles
One thing you didn’t cover pick up a dye kit that will show if there is anything like Antifreeze mixed in the Oil.
That was a good listen about engine thanks a lot
Just constant great information!
Hey Justin, is there an app or website to let you know the service of a truck like carfax for cars?
Red=13, Blue=15, Grey=18 speed
When I was with Tmc I spent a week at that dealership. 😂😂😂 Good folks.
I had issues with paccore,im with you ,cat is a good motor but since they don't make them anymore parts are going be crazy high
Good Afternoon 👋 Bro Great Job Great Information 👍
My 12.7 Detroit d deck 4 did 1.3 million miles before in frame
Hi Justin, good on you for talking would be owner operators through, what can be a nightmare in buying the right Truck, for the right job. Your knowledge of engines is invaluable when it comes to buying a new, or used Truck. By the by, when it comes to knowing just what box is in the Truck your looking at, Grey splitter trigger is, 18spd. Red splitter trigger is 13spd. and black, I think, is 15spd. Not sure on that colour, been 25yrs or so since I 've driven one. Have seen every one of your videos, for the past 3 and a half years, of course, also a subscriber. Keep up the great videos mate, wouldn't miss one for the world,cheers. John,Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
I drive a 23' peterbilt with a packard And to be honest with you I get between 8 to 10 miles to the gallon I wish it had the Commons in it I wish it had the Common And it
Good info. You just save some drivers from bad choices
Driven both manual and automatic I absolutely loathe the automatics. Also have experience with the x15 and dd15 I prefer the detroit slightly more because the Jake just seems a bit stronger.
I just brought a 17 vnl 630 with a d13 526k miles and im stressing a lil more then normal with just getting leased on with a company
in canada 99 or older lol pre DEF pre ELD id even consider look for pre 94 so i can actually work on my own brakes
Nice video! I currently am a company driver with 3 years exp. I run for FedEx ground right now. I’ve put away over 30k cash and I’m just contemplating what a good next move would be. I’m looking at real estate, but I’m also trying to learn everything I can about possibly running my own trucking operation. Tough decisions.. either way thanks for the video 😎🤙
@ChrisNevaMiss17
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasb282it’s only terrible because people start out with a $1000 truck payment and care about driving more than about running a business. I go 55 mph with no truck payment and take home $3500 per week. I can live off of $1200 with a family of 4 per week and I put away $2300. Btw that’s take home pay. After I put away taxes, repairs, tires, fuel. The borrower is slave to the lender. If the rates were better, there’s no doubt I could be making 4-5k take home every week.
@adrianromerocodes3211
9 ай бұрын
@@ChrisNevaMiss17 man that's some serious money right there even with the low rates now a days, any tips?
What’s the best 1# truck to have overall to haul heavy equipment like excavators and that kind equipment?
Love this Guy good person.
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
♥️😎🙏🏽
Max Force engines are International. Mx13 engines are Paccar. Definitely a CAT person myself. I had 1.1mil miles on mine before a valve dropped and needed an inframe...
I had 3 paccar motors never a problem
Thanks for the video 👍
@JustTruckin
7 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
Maxxforce was international. Navistar and caterpillar teamed up to make the maxxforce and it was a total flop. The MX 13 is simply the paccar in house engine. They’ve gotten a lot better over the years, and if buying a 19 or newer, the MX really isn’t a bad option. I, myself, have the caterpillar C15. Only problem with a cat is finding an old school shop that regularly still works on them. Thankfully I have a shop like that and they have a better accessibility for old cat 🐈⬛ arts that other shops might have a waiting period for.
@JustTruckin
Жыл бұрын
Don’t know why I was merging them as the Same 😑🙏🏽
nice ! i have a detriot DD13 2014 motor parts are cheap and easy to fix that engine !