Picked mine up on the 1st from Vector Air, great service and coffee as usual, very accurate and 110 shots per charge in .177

@cedhome7945

Ай бұрын

Thanks for letting us know the shot count as this is an important part of a gun review but is not usually mentioned on this channel

@timupright3776

Ай бұрын

@@cedhome7945 110/120 @ 4:25 mins in

@hedleypitts7366

Ай бұрын

@@cedhome7945 He did mention the shot count in this video and has done on most of his other videos?

@davidsiddons8690

Ай бұрын

@@hedleypitts7366 i dont get a coffee lol

Thank you Andy, morning everyone. Perfect Friday morning. Glad to see a sensible price and dare I say a bargain.

Watched this with subtitles and because Andy has a slight accent it's come up with "bull-poop" every time Andy says bullpup. Nice review of a decent bit of kit.

"The wind again" but it's a nice tight little group.

THANKS Andy just ordered myself one 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼 THANKYOU Sir

Hi Andy, It was great to meet you yesterday. Fantastic looking gun, i managed to pick the last 1 up from vectorair yesterday and i can't wait to get it to the ranger.

Solid gun. Bloke at our club has one and it shoots really nice. Tell you what getting a gun like this at half price is a bargain. Supporting British made products is always a win for me. 👍

Who would pay over a grand for a Defiant boggles the mind . 500 quid is what they always should have cost in the first place .

@welshmanjay

Ай бұрын

If I see you up at the hot air range I'll let you have a go of my black pepper laminate version ist easy up there in the £1000 price bracket for accuracy and build quality no rattley side leavers on these bad boys. 👍

That's a 'wowza' Andy! I have to agree that >1K it was a non-starter, but at the latest price point, it has to be an absolute winner! You did it justice matey!!

Nice little gun.I like the video and it didn't seem to inaccurate even with the wind.

What a rifle for that price bracket............... Wasn't looking for a pcp until watching this....... Thanks............... I think!?!

I bought mine in the lovely black pepper laminate stock and love it. It's as accurate as shown in the video. It's louder than I would like, so I'm looking at a carbon sleeve and a carbon Twink. The valve does bounce on firings causing a bit of a fart sound so I'm looking at getting that done as well which should increase the shot count even more. The rifle is heavy as mentioned but feels nice in the shoulder. If only BSA had put a bit more effort into this rifle (a pic rail as on this one tested) it could have been the rifle it should have been in the first place..

Looks nice

That one of the most accurate rifles that you’ve shot. And it’s British. 👍👍👍👍👍

@nicholasjebull3937

Ай бұрын

Its only 15 meters which is odd? Maybe trying to make it look better than it is so no comparison to any other rifle on this channel which are shot at 30 and 40 meters, guessing you could double that size group at 30 meters but there was a breeze i guess

@rc8rider

Ай бұрын

​@@nicholasjebull3937 he says "...down at 40 metres" at 10:48, just before shooting.

@robofclanlennox

Ай бұрын

He was shooting at 40m.

@nicholasjebull3937

Ай бұрын

@@robofclanlennox I'm little hard of hearing now, that is quality then

@nicholasjebull3937

Ай бұрын

@@rc8rider thats a great little performer then and you could tell he had a better group off camera as he seemed disappointed when a few just went outside the one hole knowing it could do better. I'm impressed

Struggling to find room for more guns. Wifes going mad at me now. Saying why do you want more guns you only need 1 😂

@PrivateCitizen84

Ай бұрын

I explained to my wife guns are also works of art and craftmanship. "They pretty"... Women get pretty... I explained to her I have more that one gun, because of the fun of variety in loadings/cocking methods. Variety is the spice of life in a hobby and interest.

@teosinghsyiem9426

Ай бұрын

I have FX dreamline tactical , Wildcat sniper ….. now can’t stop thinking about this ?

@benballard-ho7tu

Ай бұрын

"If you need to screw in a screw, would you only need "just" a hammer in your toolkit? If you needed to iron a blouse, would you need "just" a hoover?"

@payres48

Ай бұрын

Ask her how many pairs of shoes she has 😅

@johnfiore9390

Ай бұрын

@@payres48 I have mate she said they are not 500 each are they ha 😜

A keeper for you for sure.😀

Beware of the gauge that turns to expose the filling port. . .the edge of the port is razor sharp. . .turn the gauge and keep fingers away from the area of the port!

Good vid brother.

Nearly fell off my chair when you quoted the price 😆 That's astonishing value for a whole lot of quality features, with only the weight a cause for concern but, hey, some folks shoot under-lever springers 🐘

Looked at this rifle a few years ago - price put me off but it’s a no brainier at half price - may just go and buy me one😀👍🏻

off to the barbers for you after this vid, young man!!! lol,lol, brilliant review.

That's going to be a hard pill to swallow if you recently paid full price for one.

Excellent review, have a lovely BSA . People moan about price may be . But everyone want higher wages until it's uk made. Then it's to expensive 🤷‍♀️ same for uk farmers etc. Just bought an orange full Sus uk made mountain bike , with loads of hope Tec stuff uk made.

Much better price point, not being a snob about it but that £1000 price point put it in the same territory as the impact and some other bullpups with better shot counts and also put it in the same territory as traditional air rifle with more premium stocks etc.

Thanks

Nice.

I have HW TK 100 and HW 99s that are so accurate, this BSA wouldnt break my bank, but I have also a HW57 and a couple of pcp sig mulitshot virtus that are a lot of fun. For me to acquire anything else I really need to trade out the later 3.

Hi Andy, another great vid. Is the scope FFP or SFP please?

Hopefully more successful than the Boulton Paul Defiant!

Good review and sales pitch. Is the reduced price due to it being discontinued soon or that is was very overpriced in the first place?

Looks a lot like a FX Wildcat.

Hi Andy Although I'm a replica air gun person, I still really enjoy all of your reviews, thanks very much again for all the hard work that you and your team put into these reviews. Cheers Andy from the Wirral

I own one such a superb gun well made and apropper little workhorse

That is a lovely rifle results wise, no qualms there at all. The addition of the sling pic rail to the 6 o clock is a great idea, allowing you to run sling AND bipod or a sling and grip bipod underneath (you'll need it with it weighing in at a large baby in weight!). The eagle vision pic rail on top is great, it looks like it'll take a 45° chanted pic rail for a red dot for a bit of mixed environment pest control, such as barns and open spaces. Well done Vector air on that! I am a bit put off by the safety position, it would have been nice for it to be a bit closer to the trigger guard, or even an in trigger guard item. If you're pest controlling, I can see it taking extra time in firing the next shot if it's an automatic safety on cocking? The style of the butt stock is a bit marmite too? Is it fixed and why does it look a lot like a dog taking a dump in the woods? Hmmmmmm 🤔

Wouldn't it be lovely to go to America to compete and turn up with this little British gun with no extra modifications.

I bought mine at the full price ,dont care if you can buy one half now ,bought a special gun and I love it

Hi Andy and team... Just a quick note today thank you for these reviews... I found myself coming back and thought it totally necessary to subscribe... Having shot 7.62 floating barrel rifles in my past I have now found the love and appreciation of air guns. (Much easier to utilise in daily life).. I was going to pop up some reviews of my own and would be interested in your opinion... (I am by no way in competition with you, but rather having fun and sharing my passion)... All the very best and good luck keeping up the good work.

@AAROnair

Ай бұрын

looks like you have done some reviews before, by all means make some more, enjoy it and the best of luck.stay safe. Andy

If this beauty had been priced at £500 when I saw it at the Gun Show a few months ago I would have snapped it up. Another supplier has offered it at£466 so I ordered and paid for it but after several weeks I contacted them to find out they were having trouble with deliveries from BSA Hope VA have better luck cos it’s a smashing gun

@valiantthor9363

29 күн бұрын

What suppliers are selling these for under 500 a been looking everywhere for 1

@kennethpaxford335

29 күн бұрын

@@valiantthor9363it was Pelpax , couple of months ago now so don’t know if the offer is still on

Iam lucky, just ordered mine in 177, for a sub 12ftb a lot cheaper than a wild cat mk3.

Well i❤ it Andy I might see if they might take my FAC bt65 hatsan in part Ex. You really have temped me to give up my ticket

Not long bought a Gamo GX250, which I am happy with, maybe this could be worth changing to at that price.

I like your presentation. I like it when you are a patriot .

BSA, bullpup, bloody amazingly fierce price point ! This one shoots as good as it looks too. I reckon Vector will need to grease those shop doors because this ones going to fly out !!! Nice review Andy , great rifle at a great price. Dave

It's the Gamo boxer... Exactly the same just a slightly different plastic stock. Stick a huma air reg in it and it's the same gun.

Gutted. Sold out already. Fingers crossed for more stock soon.

Great review again Andy, My bullpup (Hatsan Gladius) is very heavy with a scope, what do you think about using a Red Dot scope, and how accurate are they at say 40 yards ? Thanks.

@AAROnair

Ай бұрын

They’re really not that accurate at 40m unless you have very good eyesight or a magnifier, but then you may as well fit a scope weight wise.

Nice advertisement 😊

@robofclanlennox

Ай бұрын

So? The results speak for themselves. Advertisement enough with that grouping.

Watched this first thing Friday, had a major brain f*rt , went online and bought one! Saturday morning 8:45 delivery made… no time for buyers regret! Bit different to the super meteor I was planning to buy…. Whoops!

Andy which pellets did you use to get your groups and are you using the high mounts that come with the scope?

Which would you prefer this rifle or the Reximex myth, both have good reviews and results and are roughly priced the same? Any advice.

I recently bought one of these in it's a standard configuration and to be fair I did like how it felt when shouldered, though I had a number of issues with it, duff gauge, rotating dust cap on the fill port not being able to rotate without brute force, accuracy of mine was all over the place, power at just over 10ft-lb energy maximum, shot count very low and build quality wasn't very good wither, confidence in it lost so its going back now for a refund, which I'm gutted about.

@Pher1954

Ай бұрын

My local dealer wont sell BSA's anymore due to the amount of returns. I was going to buy one, but they put me off.

When you said I really like the feel of this, yeah', you sounded like Rocket from the Guardians of the Galaxy when he got to hold new powerful weapon.

Reviewed a month too late for me. Just purchased the XM1 bullpup as my rodent gun. Very happy with it, but I would have definately had the BSA instead. Ah well.

@valiantthor9363

29 күн бұрын

A was also going to buy the XM1 but if a can get the BSA for similar price a will be changing g my mind from the Stoeger

a reasonably priced beezer me want

No comment on the gauge at the "business end"?

But I can’t find a link. I would order one now.

👍👍👍👍👍

a few years ago I wanted a Defiant in FAC power levels, BSA would not oblige and therefore lost a sale to a rival manufacturer, I always try to buy British but not possible in this case, at least from BSA

@innescampbell7428

Ай бұрын

I believe they do an FAC in the platform

@Airpang100

Ай бұрын

FAC are tricky to get from BSA. Got my MMC Ultra as FAC back in 2006 thanks to Lloyd at BAR. Check out the Wildcat instead

@riderone8593

Ай бұрын

@@innescampbell7428 BSA would not oblige, this was a few years ago - their loss as I wont/haven't obtained any gun from them due to this lack of customer awareness. have FAC air arms in 25 cal and many FX FAC air rifles -

I have the black pepper laminate version, but it still has the soft touch rubber cheekpiece. After about a year this became so sticky it was unusable. I contacted BSA about it but had no reply. In the end I made one out of Laminate to replace it. The gun itself I am very pleased with, great ratting gun in the barns.

@jacklurcher5813

Ай бұрын

Rubber going sticky is what puts me off rifles like this.

Morning all

Can you fit an aftermarket moderator with the shroud?

I remember these when they first came out and they were getting good revues , but at this price and with the with the Vector Air's improvements added to a rifle of this quality from BSA with their time proven cold hammer forged barrel it has to be the best bargain of 2024 and another bonus it's Made in Great Britain, and cheaper than a lot of imported rifles what more to You want . Would it be better with a nice Walnut stock ? Yes but then it it would add to the cost and a synthetic stock is much better in the field and You wouldn't be too bothered about the knocks and bumps scuffs & scratches that are almost certain when to occur when sneaking through woodland for tree rats . T I've seen a couple of reviews of this rifle and been hoping You'd do Your own . Just one problem now , how do I convince My wife that I really need another rifle ? . Thanks Andy catch You next time . Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Stay Well.

What’s not to like at that price

So BSA was charging over a grand...smh

@robofclanlennox

Ай бұрын

And they weren't selling. Now it is competitively priced they'll sell.

Looks a bit like a Brocock compatto

Hi bud. Just a quick message to ask do vector air still have the defiant in stock for the 400 quid mark? If so could you please put me in touch with them asap? I was at the NSS this weekend and couldn't find one for less than a grand. Really like everything about this rifle now as I got to have a shot with one and that price suits me. Hope you can help. Hope all's well cheers

@AAROnair

Ай бұрын

apparently they sold out on the first day. No surprise really.

@timward8335

Ай бұрын

Ok no worries. Typical missed out again lol

Hmm, so is it discounted because a V2 is immanent, or to stimulate some sales?

The Defiant was always overpriced, which is why nobody ever bought one, should have been sub £500 right from the start, I have never ever seen anyone with one, which is a shame, 🙄

@SilasMoleCatcher

Ай бұрын

Agreed. That's actually a more realistic price. I will pop down to Vector and buy one today.

@SabcatPrinting

Ай бұрын

A bsa for £500 is very tempting.

@welshmanjay

Ай бұрын

£500 from the start ? Have you shot or even held one of these? My black pepper laminate is the most accurate gun I own I also have Daystate's and a Weihrauch and the build quality on the BSA is second to none

@scottkelly379

Ай бұрын

I bought a black pepper one when they came out , yes it was a bit over priced but it was brilliant, very accurate even at target upto 50m plus , the one I had loved jsb heavys, the only down side was it was very heavy for its size .

Review sometimes fac guns 😂

Even at a grand it wasn’t over priced, I paid 2k for a Uragan 2 Carbon, it’s a bit of a sickener for those that paid the full price for one though and crashes the resale value🤷🏻‍♂️ is it U.K. made, thought Gamo made them in Spain?

will it kill a squirrel?

Thank you for another review! I was wondering if you would consider organizing your channel’s playlists into FAC Reviews and Sub-12 Reviews. For those of us outside the UK the Sub 12 foot pound limit is arbitrary and I find the FAC reviews much more applicable.

It’s a great shame it’s not ambidextrous as I’d love to have one but I’m a lefty ☹️!

Got my fingers burnt by a BSA Firebird when it leaked they didn't want to help.....can we have a shot count or approximate guess please

I watch your channel from time to time and I take note of your thoughts..I have an np02 which I will never sell..next I got a Walther reign MK2 oh mother once setup I have decided another keeper.... If u saying the bsa are that price well I shall try....btw I have the veyron optics and u r right they are very good..I was happy with that buy...I will say these budget to midrange bullpups are I think 🤔 the future well at least for me..sold my gas rams and break barrells now zeropcp recoil is the way to go..keep up the good work.

Hi Andy can you do a review of the brocock pathfinder xr please am looking to purchase one but all the over reviews are not as good as yours thanks 🙏

@AAROnair

Ай бұрын

I would be tempted to save up a little more and buy the KalibrGun Snipe. stay safe, Andy

Been out a long time nobody wants them then 🤔

@mythgreatbritain5634

Ай бұрын

massively overpriced in the past.

.22 out of stock :(

I wonder why HW Or Daystate 🤔 doesn’t sell their rifles half price 🤔

What is the best under £600 brake barrel bsa any one help it’s for my husband

Price??

Can BSA Defiant be an alternative to FX Wildcat ?

@Airpang100

Ай бұрын

No! They are worlds apart and here in Sweden the Wildcat is less expensive even at Defiants reduced price. BSA is also restricted to just 15-16 joule.

Are these discontinued by BSA now, can’t find one anywhere.?

@AAROnair

4 күн бұрын

Yes, the last one is in the AAR competition.

Think I’d be proper cheesed off if I’d paid full price

Do you ship to Germany aswell?

@Airpang100

Ай бұрын

Watch the cost there. UK is not within the EU. Add +12.50% import duty and national VAT. Expect a 6-12 week wait. Where to find spares in the future?

I checked my self no wout I have shed to you

Nice gun at a bargin price for sure Its a bit heavy Looks like am going back to gym 😊 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😁✌️

Heavy is good except for carrying.

Overweight and overpriced ,even at half price !

Fk wildcat springs to mind

You said the .177 get 110 shots and the .22 get 120. Why does the 22 version get more shots?

@jacklurcher5813

Ай бұрын

That's a really complex question to answer. Best I can do is, assuming the rifle is limited to 12ftlbs, that to get the same muzzle energy the heavier .22 pellet has to leave the muzzle at around 560 fps, the lighter .177 has to be around 720 fps, so you need a higher pressure in a smaller volume .177 barrel, pushing against a smaller base of the .177 pellet to achieve the higher velocity. There's also frictional losses pushing air down the narrower .177 barrel - best analogy for that is it's a lot harder to blow/suck through a straw than a hosepipe, so again more pressure needed. Other people can probably explain it better. I'm actually surprised at the small difference (10 shots) in shot count between .177 and .22 in this rifle, it's usually much greater.

@dwallsace

Ай бұрын

Ahh right I forgot about the the fpe limit.

Hi are these still available?

@AAROnair

Ай бұрын

No, sorry apparently they all went on the first day

shame about the hideous weight!! no carbon fibre bottle! the rail on the forstock, if you have a sling on the gun, anything fitted behind it will get in the way of the sling when carring the gun, maybe on futre models, even if the price would have to increase.

XM1 bullshark is still better 🤷🏾‍♂️

This is nothing against the channel mate but bought the reximex pretensis! around 50 pellets shot before both magazines broke :( bad but not as bad as the top rail, which is not centered. using dove and picatinny rail mounts and two different scopes. one budget, one mtc ffp both centered right of barrel. very disappointed as its a beautiful rifle but would recommend avoiding this particular rifle.

The worst looking trigger guard in history , what were they thinking .

Terrible gun I shot one of these when looking to replace my reliable bsa scorpion so had a go with one of these found it uncomfortable and quite noisy to shoot and it was pricey so tried a hw100 end of story.

Watching the end of this and how Andy looked cocking the rifle, is there an argument for a l-ft-side cocking lever on these short rifles? For us righties that is...

Wen you menshon priceis and then you don't . I am only menshing this . My name is Paul hopkins