Do you think Bruce Lee was really good at fighting? Never seen a comprehensive video assessing it, giving him the fair analysis from all ends. The answer is, yes and no. Yes, he was a superb athlete, but there is little evidence of him proving it against the best non-karate fighters. Technically speaking, his sparring and training footage would fail technical assessments... but that doesn't mean he can't fight! Learn Legendary Strategies: www.lawrencekenshin.com/

@LRkun

2 жыл бұрын

Imo, the tragedy is he died young. So we wouldn't really know how he could have performed in a pressure test.

@kevinyang5195

2 жыл бұрын

You can't say someone is not a good fighter just because he/she is not professionally fighting in the ring. You brought up Bruce's fighting philosophy, which is much based off street fighting with life/death decisions and absolutely no rules. I agreed he may not be the best fighter in the rings if he ever entered into professional combat world; but fighting is not only about putting gloves on and get inside a ring mate.

@LRkun

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinyang5195 I just did. I don't know if he's good because he's never been tested. If he didn't die, he probably would have fought in UFC

@noddingbart6915

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinyang5195 You can.

@noddingbart6915

2 жыл бұрын

@@LRkun More accurately, if he didnt have died, he wouldve been humbled by the Gracie's

I think Bruce Lees greatest achievement is not how many Tournaments he won, but how many People he inspired and still is inspiring.

@n.b.l.5709

2 жыл бұрын

lol cuz he didnt win tournaments unless it was cha cha

@ivyleotruong

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

@andreiyulo3819

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.b.l.5709 hehehe because his Martial Arts does NOT FIT DURING THAT ERA, THE POINT SYSTEM THING! If he join, FOULS ALL THE TIME! That's why in his club they did it full blast w their protective gears! 😉

@n.b.l.5709

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreiyulo3819 smh bruce lee was no fighter, there were fight tournaments than full contact, Bruce lee was no fighter

@manuelaguirre1062

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.b.l.5709 look at footage of old competitions. They score a point then the ref intervenes and the fighters rest. It doesnt compare to todays mma fighters.

The thing is, Bruce never declared himself to be a pro fighter or the best. He simply loved exercise and martial arts. He also strongly believed in improving one's body and mind. Arguing whether he could beat X or do Y is irrelevant. With his potential he easily could've picked the skills up, but that wasn't his purpose or goal

@LawrenceKenshin

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with that, but that is far from the sentiment of others ;)

@brin57

2 жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceKenshin Exactly. It is others who decided to burden him posthumously with this mythical title, and everyone believes it. I also believe a big part of what contributed to this was his extreme confidence, almost to the point of hubris. When someone speaks from such a level of self belief, people will attribute all manner of brilliance to them. Real or not.

@yosephf9841

2 жыл бұрын

Right. Its always other people that argue over your skills. Its still like that today

@achieveidealweighify

2 жыл бұрын

So what was Bruce Lee‘s purpose and goal? To practice shitty martial arts and sell it to fools like it was something great And groundbreaking? Every great fighter wants to prove his skills and test them. Bruce Lee never proved his skills or tested them against a real fighter. So all that nonsense about his confidence I also believe is bullshit. There are a number of Martial arts actors that were real fighters in real life. And guess what Bruce Lee was not one of them!

@brin57

2 жыл бұрын

@@achieveidealweighify I think he was just following his passion with extreme dedication, and excellence, as he believed it to be the way. I wouldn't suggest there was any ulterior motive. It just unfolded for him the way it did. and then he died, and the legend, the myth was created.

I think the fact that to this day we are still intrigued by Bruce, and we still try to understand him more deeply, is a testament to the skill level, and his overall mindset. Some people may be divided on how he may have faired in the ring, but I can say that I for one would not have wanted to be on the receiving end of his kicks or punches.

@Mr_jaujarana

6 ай бұрын

He never claimed to be the best,because he knew it lol

@jmmartin7766

4 ай бұрын

(^^^) 💯 To both of the above comments - especially the one about not wanting to be the opponent on the receiving end of Bruce's combat technique lol!

@RandyB521

4 ай бұрын

Isn’t that true of anybody though? An eleven year old girl’s punch hurts if it lands.

@jmmartin7766

4 ай бұрын

@@RandyB521 Unless that '11 year old girl' is a serious kung fu master who has studied under Ip Man, it's not the same...

@crusader4273

2 ай бұрын

You are absolutely correct

UFC welterweight Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, unusual among prominent mixed martial artists for being a karate stylist, amassed a 57-0 record as a professional and amateur kickboxer before joining the UFC. He knew Lewis personally and says Lewis told him one of the hardest kicks he'd ever endured was from Bruce Lee. Lewis was a heavyweight kickboxer; Lee was 5-foot-8 and weighed less than 150 pounds.

@keneisolo2541

8 ай бұрын

Yet you see nobody arguing with you here's

@dimes2crypto

7 ай бұрын

@@UnjustVerdictask someone who knew him like sugar ray . kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGuOj9aNqry6d5M.htmlsi=2dxTsYy3WOWNG6ae

@Llucius1

Ай бұрын

What Bruce Lee could do is quite unusual , and having the doubt if things are possible is just normal. If anyone who is at the top of fighting , and thinks Bruce Lee could beat him , he is either humble or he sees something that he knows this is true. If not , anyone at the top should have the doubt as a fighter.

@rowdyyates4273

Ай бұрын

Lee could have beaten Tyson in a street fight no doubt about it, he was much faster! Tyson would not kick!

@fuckthisfuckingworld

26 күн бұрын

​@@rowdyyates4273 Jon Jones will break Bruce Lee in under a minute, Lee could not grapple or wrestle to save his life

Being a kid is loving Bruce Lee because they think he's a super human. Growing up is loving Bruce Lee because of his insight, philosophy, charisma, struggle, ambition, and character.

@cechvalek1886

2 жыл бұрын

I agree Brandon czech 💪🇨🇿

@thebest-ce3pb

2 жыл бұрын

And loving the fact that he was not only movier .he was real

@gandicae

2 жыл бұрын

AMEN!

@therealjoker2957

2 жыл бұрын

Long live the dragon!

@rileyog179

2 жыл бұрын

And other jokes you can tell yourself

3:45 this wasn't how Bruce Lee fought. This was just one of his training drill where he punches as hard as he can repeatedly without letting tiredness stop him. He didn't fight like that. It's totally wrong to judge his fighting based on this

@Fred.pSonic

2 жыл бұрын

Punching bags don't hit back!

@beatsmithx1090

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fred.pSonic yes and that's why he didn't have to be on a defensive stance. I've never seen Bruce Lee fight anybody the way he fought that punching bag

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@beatsmithx1090 you never seen him fight at all

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fred.pSonic very true

@lunchboxsupreme4758

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fred.pSonic enter the dragon quote lol

Just want to say that that's Black Belt Jones at the beginning describing Lee. Dude was born where I come from in KY, and you could make a movie about his life. He's a freaking icon.

@metalmike570

15 күн бұрын

Oh I thought he said it's Jim Kelly.

The thing with bruce is if you take his teachings and apply it to your way of life... Martial arts or not... You will see it improve. He was more of a modern philosopher than anything. And you can indeed become the ultimate fighter by listening to his teachings. He was never about beating up other people, he was about going above and beyond surpassing ones own limits to be the best you can be including being a fighter.

@aquiredskill

4 ай бұрын

You are very right but most people think and don’t feel hehe . They go to a gym 3 times a week and call it a style but they are not living it so they think it’s a Martial art.

@damonclark5742

3 ай бұрын

Bruce studied philosophy at University. That, along with his almost religious Martial Arts training, helped to make him the great human being that he was.

@guts7958

2 ай бұрын

So he was a great teacher not fighter

@nelsbrown3674

6 сағат бұрын

I really don't get that ... "be like water, my friend..." comes off as pretentious pontification. He was an arrogant prick when he wanted to be, and a sweet guy when he wanted to be that. His movies were SCRIPTED, so no philosopher there. Meanwhile, all his martial arts wisdom was there centuries, decades before him, being trained and practiced by legions of men and women throughout the world. He was a movie star and a really great athlete, and a solid Kung Fu man.

@guts7958

6 сағат бұрын

@@nelsbrown3674 sounds like he was just like everyone else, not perfect

Bruce Lee didn't train to fight in the ring, a ring with rules went against everything he believed in, his philosophy was to attain skills and techniques to fight in real world situations.

@jacobingram8152

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! He train to kill with (CQC) Close Quarters Combat!!!

@animeadam7282

2 жыл бұрын

Bruce lee was an actor that's all he was, people out here thinking what he does in movies is real.

@ricksonrickson8796

2 жыл бұрын

@@animeadam7282 looks like you know hes life tough 🤣🤭

@pauleveritt8955

2 жыл бұрын

,💯🇯🇲🇬🇧👍

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@animeadam7282 he was a martial arts actor

The fact that after so many years Bruce is still compared to modern martial arts just shows how ahead of his time he was. Give credit where credits due

@LawrenceKenshin

2 жыл бұрын

where wasn't the credit due ?

@krayziejerry

2 жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceKenshin Watch Bruce Lee's unnoticed movements and Bruce Lee speed kick

@imran_rasoli

2 жыл бұрын

It's because of his films he made that got him popular. There is greater at fighters who are not known as much as Bruce Lee but they talk about Bruce Lee because he is more famous due to his films

@darrellwilliams1714

2 жыл бұрын

@@imran_rasoli not really. Alot of those great fighters of the time say Bruce was great.

@Meatisfood

2 жыл бұрын

@@darrellwilliams1714 If he had not made movies, he most likely be unknown to most.

however, if you know and believe you are good, there is nothing to be gained or proved in a ring except the curiosity of others

@kiillabytez

2 ай бұрын

AND yourself. If he truly wanted to push his boundaries, he should have done it in the ring as well. Even Ip Man tested his abilities this way. Ip Man was 10x the fighter that Bruce Lee was.

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

Yet, wasn't it claimed he was challenged and defeated hundred of people in his lifetime? Just look at this comment section alone. You'd think that Lee could destroy his enemies by farting lightning at them!

I got into martial arts in the 6th grade because of Bruce Lee to stop a few punks from bullying me. By 9th grade, It worked. Regarding fighting him - despite what "anyone" says, nobody ever publicly or privately challenge him, because he would have NOT backed down. That's one FACT we can agree on. 🙂 ✌

@97warlock

6 ай бұрын

From what Linda said , Bruce was always being challenged. And from what i understand Bruce would simply drop them & move on basically

@2masterdingdong

2 ай бұрын

@@97warlock lol

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

@@97warlock Why then, has he never been convicted of assault from the hundreds of altercations he supposedly encountered? Beating somebody up, self-defense or not, is still a crime.

@97warlock

Ай бұрын

If a dude comes up to you all cocky & in your face starting sh*t & you shut them down ... are they gonna go report it. Not very liely @@kiillabytez

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

@@97warlock What, you're gonna unalive them or something? Like you said, not likely. This is reality kid. Movies aren't reality.

Dude, you mentioned his hands low making an opening for someone to hit him. But you forget those types of fighters relied on there quickness to get away from punches they would purposely make mistakes to draw the opponent in and make them miss. Roy jones and Ali all through punches from the hips and were the best to ever do it in their prime. Your only talking about the ‘book’ of boxing

@louibmx

2 жыл бұрын

Yes very schoolish analysis video

@Robert399

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but compare the level of control in Ali's footwork when he throws hands-low flurries (4:05) to Bruce's in that clip. There's a huge difference between an elite fighter bending conventional techniques and someone who never learnt them.

@ismailalibutt9288

2 жыл бұрын

The art of deception and trickery is part of Kung Fu....Bruce incorporating styles was well ahead of his time with his speed and power he was a fast learner and excelled In boxing and other striking disciplines.

@mrt445

2 жыл бұрын

Did Bruce look fast when he was throwing those punches?? Lol.

@ismailalibutt9288

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrt445 no... he looked like he was practicing Queensberry style though 👍

After 50 years of his death, people still evaluating him... That's his real achievement that no one can realize.

@goldenapplesaga5446

Жыл бұрын

That's actually a damn good point

@bamaboy99191

Жыл бұрын

That's cuz he isn't a proven fighter so we don't have enough material to declare him good or bad so all this is is speculation.

@horimekaer8747

Жыл бұрын

@@bamaboy99191 Lot off professional fighters of his era confirmed his skills in fighting. Off-course things changed a lot now, but, compared to our era with all the progress in fighting as field of interest, no one can ignore that his skills are still very good which can give idea about why he is a legend.

@bamaboy99191

Жыл бұрын

@@horimekaer8747 he for sure is a skilled martial artist, just about being a good fighter we don't know, or at least that's what I say to people believing the Bruce Lee myth so y'all don't get all pissy. There are a couple of threads in this comment section, a certain david Hughes if I'm not mistaken was referring a lot of sources and lots of details about the myth that exploded after Bruce's death. All I want to say is that there are a LOT of lies about him that were pushed after his death for monetary reasons, and lots of the people he did good towards elevated him hut there isn't proof about him being the best fighter ever as lots of dumb fucks claim and if we want to bee realistic there isn't proof he ever was or could have been a good fighter, simply cuz there is only one proven fight, wich ended in a draw as per one of the 11 testimonies present that day who wrote a book about it. I don't like Bruce Lee cuz he's an actor elevated to icon by the people who wanted to profit after is death. Then of course he was a trained specimen of a man and had a very strong discipline, and I don't have any specific reason to think he wasn't a good person

@horimekaer8747

Жыл бұрын

@@bamaboy99191 I share with you the same thoughts.

Fighting in the ring is a kind of sport. Most often, the rule for that tournament determines which style of martial art win over others.

@RyanPoulson

10 ай бұрын

Exactly why wrestling dominates MMA

I wish I could go back in time and spend 1 hour just talking to Bruce.

I don't care about him being the strongest or not, i don't care about the haters. All i know is lee changed my life even tho he isn't alive anymore he and martial arts changed me. All love and respect for the legend. All respects to every art. 🙏🏼

@ronnysimon30

2 жыл бұрын

If you really studied Bruce Lee you would know he would encourage feedback and correct them if necessary. Your confusing haters with those that question Bruce Lee and his abilities and sort out the truth from folklore. One thing I find strange is how he preached brutal honesty while having affairs with women in Hong Kong while his wife and children were in America. That sounds very dishonest and dishonorable.

@lastsamurai420

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronnysimon30 no he ain't confusing anything people are actually hating no what your talking about and show me where he asked for feedback from people who aren't actual fighters most of what Bruce said was the philosophy of his wing chun teacher and ng mui the founder of wing chun

@ronnysimon30

2 жыл бұрын

@@lastsamurai420 so to make a comment on Bruce Lee you need to be a fighter? What about football or hockey? Do I have to be player to comment on those also. Remember Royce Gracie? He came to prominence by participating in an all out tough man contest. Virtually no rules. They came from all walks. Unbeaten grandmasters of every discipline and Gracie won two years running. I respect Gracie. He is humble and a real fighter because he was willing to fight the toughest people to prove himself. Now can you explain why Bruce Lee never entered those types of contests? You simply cannot make the claim you can beat anybody and not prove it. Bruce Lee was never in a real fight with blood and guts and tapouts. It is my opinion Bruce Lee could not have beaten Royce Gracie in an MMA style fight. He was an actor and a coach and a demonstrator of fighting principles who never actually fought any ranked journeyman fighter to prove his principles

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronnysimon30 Royce wasn't really all that, most the people he beat were basic wrestlers, or boxers and other stand up guys that knew little to no take down defense and knew nothing of BJJ, other then that I agree

@ronnysimon30

2 жыл бұрын

@@guts7958 at least Royce fought in an all out no holds barred blood guts and teeth everywhere battle for the right to say he beat all challengers 2 years running to prove he was worthy of the title. Bruce Lee never did that. Even all his sparring he wore body and head protection even though he was elusive. I'll be honest I think Royce Gracie could have beat Bruce Lee. Bruce was a great coach demonstrator fighter and philosopher but if you can show me one fight just one I might think differently but Royce Gracie is one tough well rounded fighter who priced himself worthy by actually fighting over 75 times in real fights not demonstrations or sparring

I’m pretty sure when Bruce lee was punching the bag he was just testing his power and punching movement.

@jacobingram8152

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, exactly!

@TheKungfudan

2 жыл бұрын

That film was also one of his first training sessions after being bed ridden for months from a debilitating back injury.

@Garrett316

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKungfudan beat me to it!

@morten1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you don't always do your absolute best in all areas when training one certain area

@jdt1981

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKungfudan So being bed ridden for months caused him to forget proper technique?

Until someone can do all the things Bruce did and be as successful as him. He will always be the greatest

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

Arnold is greater, if we're talking about accomplishments and success. When you say Arnold in any conversation, everyone knows who you're talking about. Saying Bruce in the same context, most people don't know which Bruce you're even talking about.

@arthurl.9985

9 күн бұрын

​@kiillabytez Martial Artists know exactly which Bruce is being referenced. Others might not know because they are usually not interested in knowing.

@kiillabytez

9 күн бұрын

@@arthurl.9985 Bruce Jenner? Bruce Campbell?

@arthurl.9985

9 күн бұрын

@kiillabytez Exactly. Non martial artists may not know. However most of us who are martial artists know who he is.

@kiillabytez

9 күн бұрын

@@arthurl.9985 That's not a very big populace, is it.

The man was wicked fast ! probably the fastest person I’ve ever seen, I was a martial artist kick boxer 30 years ago I grew up watching his movies, he is what inspired me. And that what makes him great he is a great influencer! Don’t matter what he did in or out of ring or tournament’s everyone wants to be like MIKE or BRUCE and that’s what makes them great! Not all about wins or losses. I don’t ever recall anyone saying I wanna grow up a be Joe Lewis no disrespect but everyone wants to be like Bruce! May the man rip! 🙏🏻

Any man who spends his whole life fighting, training to fight, talking about fighting, writing, and making movies about fighting, and after his death is often talked about in the context of being a fighter, probably knew a little bit about fighting.

@teabohui8234

2 жыл бұрын

Love that comment.

@counterstrike89

2 жыл бұрын

Well he had hundreds of books on different martial arts, he was obsessed actually, and he had a background in street fighting in Hong Kong.

@rancedavis5106

2 жыл бұрын

haha perfectly put, i think he new a hell of alot and many pro fighters at that time had admitted that their game had completed improved after training with bruce

@counterstrike89

2 жыл бұрын

@@rancedavis5106 100% if you watch old Joe Lewis classes on youtube, he's gut a bunch of lessons, basically everything he's saying is from what he learned from Bruce Lee, and its in depth fighting strategies, its no joke. He even mentioned in one video, that Bruce would get into his alpha zen state, and in that mode you couldn't touch him, he said probably a bullet couldn't touch him, joking.

@rancedavis5106

2 жыл бұрын

@@counterstrike89 yes absolutely. its just very typical that alot of the judgemental naysayers will have none of it, and will persistantly say that bruce was nothing but a showman and both joe and chuck and everyone else would eat bruce for breakfast, even after high praisae from joe they still wont be convinced that bruce was legit

Bruce Lee believed (in his book Tao of Jeet kune do) that all the different fighting systems were too rigid and fights never went that way, that's why he took the best bits from each one and believed in applying them as needed. In my opinion that's why you can't say he was doing certain things wrong, I think he was always trying new approaches to different methods to see what could or couldn't work. Evolving and bettering martial arts was his love, fighting was just a consequence

@auxorion

Жыл бұрын

People who haven't read the man, but think they understand him. He was probably studying brawling fighters in that video, for all we know. That guy was the real deal. Only fighter I've seen who even comes close, in my opinion, is Lerdsila.. and only because they both have a similar attitude about fighting. That it should be enjoyable. In his writings he hated the name Jeet Kune Do, because it relates to fighting -- and his whole philosophy of JKD was more than your fist.. he started to call a delicious meal JKD, and many other things. Slaving away in championships wasn't his style.

@zarah1363

Жыл бұрын

Exactly,

@islamisthetruewaytogod6812

Жыл бұрын

Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. 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That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. 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@auxorion

Жыл бұрын

@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 I appreciate your presentation, however you are wrong about Jesus Christ. He is not a "messenger" or just a "servant" of God, He is God in flesh - the word of God made manifest. Do not be deceived, Jesus Christ is the messiah, He is God, and He is the only way to salvation. You are not going to earn your way to heaven, your good deeds and offerings are like filthy rags to God, because they come from unclean hands. The only way to salvation is through the Savior Jesus Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life and no man will come to the Father but through Him. Repent of your sin and believe in Jesus Christ.

@pepehorhae

Жыл бұрын

damn, that last sentence was fire tho! poetry!!

I feel Bruce’s true power and influence go far, far beyond his combat skills. To me, he was just superhuman in every way-spiritually, intellectually, mentally, physically, and of course, as a warrior. He was what I believe many young men and even many women aspire to be like: the strongest most brilliant version of one self.

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

He's not superhuman. Come back to reality.

As a 90's kid, when people talks about legends and GOATS of combat world who inspired millions out there are top 3 -Bruce lee, Tyson and Muhammed ali. They still talks about how iconic Bruce lee is , how great Muhammed Ali was, How ferocious prime tyson was. I think they inspired millions of people in combat sports and were heroes of people and i think these three will still remain iconic figure in combat World for next thousand years.

The older I get the more I appreciate Bruce's accomplishments considering the time in which he came up and the confidence he had as he was putting in the work. Whether or not he could fight or compete with MMA fighters or boxers of today or yesterday is irrelevant. Imagine all the adversity he overcame as an actor in the 60's era of Hollywood and they way he did it with poise, charisma, and humility while ushering in a new kind of filmmaking. His legend will continue to mystify people for decades to come.

@187mako1977

2 жыл бұрын

There are many who think Bruce Lee was the greatest fighter of all time. So whether he could compete in modern fighting sport is relevant. No one is trying to take away his accomplishments. Bruce Lee was the man and an inspiration.

@krayziejerry

2 жыл бұрын

Greatest fighter of all time is an opinion, even with fighters now.

@tsama

2 жыл бұрын

@@187mako1977 I suppose there could be some relevance in discussing his abilities as a fighter in the modern context but I would take a guess to say that most who think he is the greatest fighter to ever live have never trained in legitimate martial arts. Bruce is indeed the man but I don't think of him as fighter like I would Saenchai or Stylebender.

@tsama

2 жыл бұрын

@@krayziejerry yeah the title of "GOAT" should be changed to "GTD," greatest to date. lol

@danstafford5977

2 жыл бұрын

Sports fighting they have to follow the rules and they have a referee to enforce them... Bruce Lee doesn't follow the rules that would make it an illegal fight... that would cost him prison time!

He might not be the best fighter in the ring but he was the one who introduced modern martial arts to the world, and inspired a lot of people.

@MichaelRCarlson

2 жыл бұрын

He never cared about the ring either.

@dar6095

2 жыл бұрын

He also introduced jeet kun do to NFL

@Rationalist101

2 жыл бұрын

@@dar6095 Who?

@dar6095

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rationalist101 Bruce that's who

@manuelherlo4662

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely !!!¡!

"Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, add what is essentially yours." - Bruce Lee I just want to say that if he were still alive, he would evolve like any other world-class martial artist. Just imagine, he practiced MMA even before the UFC was founded. People who talk about Bruce Lee may not realize how strong and powerful he was compared to his size and people bigger than him. Also, there is a huge difference between fighting in the ring and fighting in the streets. Lastly, for those who say JKD wouldn't work, if you actually read the book of Jeet Kune Do, Bruce said that JKD is not the secret recipe to be the best. We take techniques from different fighting styles and add the ones we think would be most suitable and practical in real life, and then we can call it JKD. JKD is a mixture of all fighting styles.

The reason why he never fought in the ring was no one asked him to never wanted to because he had nothing to prove. He was easy on his opponents except when his opponents went too far and even then he went easy on them and he was too fast, so fast that in some of his movies they wanted him to slow down and filmed the movies and slowed down the reels and still he was a blur

It's about how people feel about Bruce Lee, and the millions he inspired to be their best.

@sampson3121

2 жыл бұрын

It's also about people making these videos that know absolutely nothing about what he was like off camera. The people that were there, all of them say he was a badass. He didn't want to do point fighting, and that was the only legit martial arts fighting there was at the time. He was by no means a "point" fighter lol Chuck Norris was like " let me show you this roundhouse" Bruce was like " see how my finger would pernitrate your eardrum" Chuck must have been like " Oh sht..... Ok?" lol

@jaymoplex12

Жыл бұрын

Can u imagine,,,he's still da most respected martial artist to this day,,,,hv Neva seen some one had an impact like dat ever ,,,n dat hurts most people to da extent dat they jst hv to keep bring up da he was not proven in da ring like professional fighters such as mike

@stevo62ful

Жыл бұрын

@@sampson3121 Bruce Never did point fighting or any other fighting, the likes of Joe Lewis and Benny the jet walked the walk, maybe Bruce could have done so as well, but he preferred to talk the talk

@pepevelez4742

Жыл бұрын

How sad, because what you are saying is that people can be inspired by a guy who may have not been what he was promoting.

@LawrenceKenshin

Жыл бұрын

i agree with that

I studied JKD for years (with Taky Kimura, ) Your video brings up many good points. One point you missed regarding the heavy bag punches. Bruce was NOT a brawler, wildly swinging. (like you suggest) He was methodical. His punch work on this bag was for conditioning his hands, for endurance and for hip-generated explosion. He was training his body for explosiveness and endurance, NOT to train to be a wild brawler. In other words, conditioning the body to be FAST and powerful.

@user-zc2qi5ys7x

Жыл бұрын

You are right. That was the first thing that also came into my mind

@missionhumanity9353

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. Also the analist is only placing lee's alleged "weak" points. He didn't mention how good lee was with weapons and how fast and powerful his kicks were, such as in big boss, when he broke someone's ribs with a single kick.

@user-zc2qi5ys7x

Жыл бұрын

@@missionhumanity9353 You are right. Also, the fighting scene in the movie Enter The Dragon where Bruce Lee kicked Bob Wall was real and this has been confirmed by Bob Wall himself. In that particular fight scene Bruce Lee's kick was so powerful that the actor who tried to catch Bob Wall broke one of his fingers, so you can imagine how powerful Bruce Lee's kicks were.

@lifelongfan07

Жыл бұрын

Bruce wasn’t fighting anyone on the bag, he was VERY conscientious of his technique. Bruce fought many people in real life. As you may know, everyone wanted to challenge him. Chuck Norris did in fact compete and I believe he claimed he was a “formidable opponent”. I agree with you that he wasn’t a professional fighter and I don’t think he claimed he was the best.

@peachsncream5808

11 ай бұрын

Thank you brother - it’s incredible how many people make channels like this one . talking about things they only think they know about . Classic case of the 👉Dunning Kruger effect 👈 There are many highly educated people …. Who have no commonsense . When the power grids eventually go offline - and the shit hits the fan - they are the people looting shops for toilet paper and hand sanitizer 🤫 . Those people are my trail mix 😉🤫 👣🦘

Hard to judge his fighting ability by focusing on him swinging on a bag in home training footage (that I’m guessing wasn’t intended to be released anyway). Also, his sparring footage is from 1967, the term ‘JKD’ had just been coined, so you can see his fighting style still had a lot of Wing Chun influence. Would have been really interesting to see how he fought 4-5 years later, when his fighting style had discarded Wing Chun almost entirely!

@guts7958

Жыл бұрын

He was 32 when he died I doubt he'd want to fight anything at 37, probably made more movies

The ironic thing about this debate is that Bruce never once claimed he was the best, nor did he ever claim to be a good fighter.

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

That is a fact. If he inspired someone, great, but that doesn't give them godhood. Famous as he was, he was a great actor, and a lot of what he said made sense, but to say he was the epitome of MA, is just fallacy.

@Danovio

Ай бұрын

@@kiillabytez and its his fans fault for this, he was also very respected by actual famous martial artists, but yeah he was not a fighter god, nor did he ever pretend to be it.

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

@@Danovio It's like trying to convince a Metallica fan they really aren't that good.

@Danovio

Ай бұрын

@@kiillabytez 😂😂😂 right, their old stuff is sweet, but damn they really suck ass today

@kiillabytez

Ай бұрын

@@Danovio MA Actors, you mean? A lot of people in Entertainment. Even Elvis.

From what I understand, Bruce Lee was a street fighter, not an "in the ring with rules" fighter.

@gracien0975

2 жыл бұрын

This what i am talking about. Street fighting is a fight of survival. A ring fight is justs sport and entertainment..

@shad4416

2 жыл бұрын

@@gracien0975 You put Bruce Lee in the street against any professional champion of our days and he'd get destroyed easily.

@anthonyurso9366

2 жыл бұрын

@@shad4416 I beg to differ street fighting is a totally different game. With his speed and power and the techniques he practiced win or lose the other guy is taking some serious damage. No one would get near him without taking a poke to the eye kick to the knee or groin. He was so fast and efficient and deceptive

@yujirogoggins4389

2 жыл бұрын

@@shad4416 Professional fighters can fight. There's no doubt about that. They could handle the most people in a street fight. The difference however, is that they’re trained to fight according to different rules and regulations. Against somebody who actually is trained to fight in the streets without rules, they’re not favored to win, just like how the street fighter isn't favored to beat them in their field (although skill level of course also is relevant in both cases).

@MrJoseeclipse123

2 жыл бұрын

@@shad4416 delusional kid

I spoke with Gene LeBell at a martial arts convention and he said Bruce Lee skills were the real deal.

@krayziejerry

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Bruce Lee's unnoticed movements, fastest man alive possibly

@darrellwilliams1714

2 жыл бұрын

All the greats of the time say that. I don't get why it's still even a discussion. Anyone who says otherwise is calling all these great men liars pretty much.

@jakemay637

2 жыл бұрын

@@darrellwilliams1714 yeh Matt Polly bio states an email from LeBell said Bruce was the best of his era. Note Gene went to Bruce's home to train not vice versa.

@slicenrice9236

2 жыл бұрын

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@as65801

2 жыл бұрын

His martial arts skill was the real deal, but that doesn't mean he was a great fighter. We just don't really know.

At the end of the day it goes down to your priorities. When you are a geek about fighting you either coach, fight, or getting into content creation involving it. Bruces priorities were always coaching and acting, he simply didn't have time to do fight camps, he would dabble in it when he got the itch like his hong kong match, or invite his karate friends to spar with him. But outside of that despite his love for fighting he had a much bigger love for learning the actual science behind it. And thank God he did, for he was way more valuable as a coach then as a fighter to us.

Something Bruce Lee said that I still remember all these years later. Everyone is a student of the game even him. He said the days you stop learning is the day you should be dead. Martial arts he said is an ever-evolving style. He said he Incorporated many different styles into his Kung Fu he said anything that works I will use it.

Funny how people who weren't even born when Lee was alive know more about him than the people that saw him behind the scenes. His whole philosophy was about real world situations, not proving things in the ring. Ain't no referees or rules in the streets. It's knives,guns, bricks, getting jumped etc in the real world.

@sampson3121

2 жыл бұрын

Plus back then he would have to fight point fighting lol Could you imagine ? lol I totally understand why he didn't want to do that sht. lol

@phoenix21studios

2 жыл бұрын

No one is just going to take the word of a friend, you have to PROVE yourself if you want to be recognized. Bruce Lee has my respect for his dedication to training but he wasn't a fighter, has no record, has no black belt of any kind, and chose to fight for real this one time behind closed doors against a no name guy and even then the stories are conflicting on what happened. Sorry but that's no different than a guy that builds a race car, tells you its the fastest but NEVER enters a race. We have nothing to go on with Bruce Lee.

@sampson3121

2 жыл бұрын

@@phoenix21studios Wong Jackman is a nobody lol k How old are you? You must be young.

@sampson3121

2 жыл бұрын

@@phoenix21studios So one is not a fighter if they didn't fight for sport? And back then it was point fighting. When Bruce talked about not fighting for sport people need to understand that all there was was point fighting, not full contact. There was no Octagon or Ring. Now if Bruce was transported from that era I'm sure, if he was in his 20's, he would have fought in the UFC. Heck, full contact pro fighting in the US only came after Bruce died, Why people fail to understand this is beyond me. Chuck Norris was a student of Lee for 2 yrs. You think he and Lewis would be students with a man that couldn't fight? Joe Lewis "For a while there I was able to get some through, but when he hit that Zen you couldn't get anything through.... I don't think you could hit him with a bullet he was so fast" kzread.info/dash/bejne/oWaE17ientCTXbg.html

@phoenix21studios

2 жыл бұрын

@@sampson3121 Wong Jackmans big claim to fame is that he fought Bruce Lee. If he didnt do that you would have never heard of him LOL. Nice ad hominim.

Also that footage of him with the punching bag was when he was recovering from his back injury and getting back in shape. I think your research on him was a little too superficial. If you dig more you’d understand what he was capable of and why he is so special to this day

@hypno9715

2 жыл бұрын

That ish was funny as hell. Noobie here reviewing dude hitting a bag like his in a cage match lmao. Truth be told, these noobies who think that fighting is some kind of exact math or science, are always gonna get their arses handed to them. Such a f ing waste of breath tbh.

@SinatraKennedy

2 жыл бұрын

@@hypno9715 very true. It’s funny how easily “street fighter skills are ignored”. Real on the street fights are far from a cage fight. Bruce could care less about competing, yet he accepted every private challenge he ever received and won each and every one. He saved his skills for the camera. In other words? He wanted to be paid REAL MONEY for showing off his skills to the world. Smart man.

@slimturnpike

2 жыл бұрын

@@hypno9715 Noobie? Lol you might want to check out the words of the elite martial artists this man has trained with.

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@slimturnpike he has?

@slayer6752

2 жыл бұрын

@@hypno9715 From what I see,the other dude makes a good point.

To the narrator of this video… And what have you done and what tournaments have you won? How much do you understand about fighting? He only needed one hand and feet to defeat his opponent yet you can’t even see something as simple as that. You have a lot to learn my friend.

My Sifu and a group of students and I did a martial arts demonstration to promote his movie Sidekick. He came by after the demo and when he saw That my Sifu had trained under Richard Bustillo (one of Bruce Lee's famous students) took the entire group into one of the theaters and spoke with us and humbly, answered questions mostly about Bruce. I walked over and in a low tone apologized about the questions being mostly about Bruce and he smiled and said don't worry I have really enjoyed it. Then came an uncomfortable question from one of the young cute girls fortunately, she said do you think you could have beat Sijo Lee in a fight. He smiled looking down and then looked at the whole group. For reasons I can only imagine is honesty he said I don't know, but if I could it would not have been easy or pains that's for sure. Everyone laughed and my respect for a man I thought I could not admire more, grew. I understand the pressures he must of had to keep his reputation and brand as high as it has always been, but in this moment, he treated us all with the respect as martial artis despite the immense difference in experience, skill, and knowledge.

You're comparing apples to oranges. When real fighting was concerned, Bruce Lee wasn't about fighting in a ring, he was about fighting in reality. He was about ending things as quickly as possible and as efficiently as possible by attacking vulnerable areas of the body that he could fully exploit to achieve that outcome. He was not about fighting in a ring with rules and safety regulations to please a paying crowd over many rounds with big pillows on his hands. Believe it or not there's more to fighting than it being purely a spectator sport.

@stigtuneback1966

2 жыл бұрын

you really hit the spot with that comment my friend , you really did , and thats bruce´s way of fighting exactly , i could not have said it better myself .

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

big pillow hands, you know nothing of boxing or fighting

@jacobteeter7879

2 жыл бұрын

True, but Pro figters would be pretty good at ending a street fight too because “spectator safety precautions” or no, they have experience standing across from a highly trained athlete who’s sole purpose is to inflict damage on them.

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobteeter7879 well ya fighters with no rules, who would want to fight Mike with no rules

@slayer6752

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobteeter7879 Say that to Wanderlei Silva who got sucker punched and knocked out for not paying attention. Yeah it was a sucker punch,IN A STREET FIGHT.

Recently saw an interview with Rickson Gracie where he said "Everything Bruce Lee spoke was the true essence of martial arts and his philosophy about fighting was 100% correct."

@islamisthetruewaytogod6812

Жыл бұрын

Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time. Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them)… Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning! Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures. Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement. It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them. (19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad). Salam (Peace) ------------

@truthseeker7461

Жыл бұрын

@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 Plz Stop... This is the wrong Channel for fairytales!

@danmcgvern2761

Жыл бұрын

He was nothing but an actor. A Jackie Chan. Name one ranked opponent. Name one person he beat in the ring. Mike Tyson would beat the hell out of him....lol

@stephanwatson7902

Жыл бұрын

@@danmcgvern2761 No one said Tyson wouldn't, but Bruce Lee became an amateur boxing champ when he beat Gary Elms. UFC double champion GSP on video said he used several concepts and techniques from Bruce Lee in his MMA style. Anderson Silva has repeatedly said he uses Bruce Lee techniques and even said the Bruce Lee stuff saved his life inside the Cage... So ignorant keyboard Warriors can whine all they want, Georges' right you're wrong, Silva's right, Rickson Gracie is right and they'd know...I love how people think they know more than professional fighters. P.s. Bruce himself said Muhammad Ali would kill him in a fight, so of course if he got to see Tyson he'd say the same thing about him... keyboard Warriors are just so smart

@seric4546

Жыл бұрын

@@truthseeker7461 Tell that to Rickson then.

Jiri, current champion in the MMA, guy punches exactly like Bruce Lee is doing in this video. But in a real fight, those damn punches are effective as hell.

he was a street fighter in his youth he beat a son of a Triad boss in Hong Kong. thats why he came to USA.

Jim Kelly clearly said that Bryce was untouchable, as he'd seen him spare many times before with high level fighters. You, who never met Bruce, can't say that he was not a good fighter.

@cuzz63

2 жыл бұрын

Jim Kelly is suspiciously vague...cant talk about when or where or who..."trust me" doesnt work.

@mrt445

2 жыл бұрын

Jim Kelly was a points fighter who doesn't even go into detail when talking about who he saw Bruce spar against

@cuzz63

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrt445 "trust me"...

@iluvcliffrichard

2 жыл бұрын

Yes everyone of day say they vouch for him. Skipper Mullins said he'd pick Bruce in any street situation

@cuzz63

2 жыл бұрын

@@iluvcliffrichard Based on what? Skipper never fought Bruce..

the black and white footage of him kicking and punching the heavy bag was just after learning to walk again after a spinal injury 9 months earlier I think it's pretty impressive.

@stevebb2915

Жыл бұрын

thought he looked shockingly bad on it. and that "learning to walk" is historically inaccurate. he had a back injury.

@mikeb6135

Жыл бұрын

It was probably full of t shirts, people sometimes stuffed their own bags in those days....And....? They make weight classes for a reason, lets not be foolish here, Tyson would have gobbled him up and shit out the 80lb smaller man.

@Antonio-fw1bs

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeb6135 Tyson was smaller than many of his opponents...

@VAHOSS

Жыл бұрын

Beautiful excuse 😂 What does that have to do with horrible technique

@Antonio-fw1bs

Жыл бұрын

@@VAHOSS Everyone here is more capable than Bruce Lee, I call it the Anti Bruce Lee Commussion. hahaha

Bruce Lee used to record in his backyard his achievements before and after something in martial arts, as well as what the other person failed to do or had the opportunity to do. What I want to say here is the following, Bruce constantly studied the fighting techniques of “not doing”, a method of self-knowledge to improve himself. as in the case of the “interception of blows” that he always mentioned when he was alive. Those who don't train martial arts will probably be lost by my comment. At that time, which is very different from today, he didn't have as much access to information, so he filmed himself in the backyard of his house to perform such feats and study what could “not be done or done” in real combat or film.

I think this is a fair assessment of the man. When I hear people bashing him and stating he wouldn’t be good today, I see no proof either way. He could be trash, middle of the road or top of the mountain. We’ll never know. I choose to remember him, not by his accomplishments as a potential fighter, but the inspiration he instilled in countless people. Many people who don’t practice martial arts can still learn from his philosophy and I think there is nothing more beautiful than being able to inspire those beyond your inner circle.

@guts7958

2 ай бұрын

I agree with that

@AJOLDMUSI

28 күн бұрын

bruce lee was a god damn beast of a fighter man you have no idea, hed fuck up pretty much any human for real. aint no flack dog i dont think this video paints him at all in the right light look up some more stuff it's fucking incredible what he was truly capable of look up goldenbell training on youtube hell give you the real scoop on the myth the man the legend and his true prowess. Believe me its a major injustice to make these claims this guy just made

He's an icon and inspired millions of legends. That's all that matters.

@notchedbandit

Жыл бұрын

So did Superman.

@humanman9920

Жыл бұрын

No his skill was real , people are just shitty to be downplaying actual people because of a reasonable lack of video evidence . When it comes to the pros , lack of video evidence in actual fights . When it comes to cons , video evidence of punching bag is valid?

@cosmicabyss7358

Жыл бұрын

@@humanman9920 Say it all you want there's no proof of it therfore you can't make that claim.

@pichupuche2474

Жыл бұрын

SO did Superman although they are fake.

@michael-seida

Жыл бұрын

beautiful spoken 👏

I also think you shouldn’t judge his performance at the Long Beach Internationals held in 1964 (the full contact gear fight) to where he had evolved in the early 1970s. He had 8 more years to evolve to the fighter that many of us knew, and I think any judgements or conclusions on the earlier martial artist are anachronistic and incorrect.

@tigrisrgn4062

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, clickbait garbage video! this dude has no clue

@cuzz63

2 жыл бұрын

there is some truth to that, he only sparred with his students and in full gear.

@topfitnessssss

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right !!

@bignadier

2 жыл бұрын

I said the same thing , he got much better from 1964 to 1972

@cuzz63

2 жыл бұрын

there is nothing else to judge his performance by. In truth if people werent making crazy claims without proof it wouldnt even be a thing.

The most important point is the essence. The essence of what Bruce Lee developed. This means, if you equip the fastest and strongest athlete with Bruce's techniques, and if you also accommodate evolution (since the time that Bruce first developed his 'technique'), you can bet that the technique can take down anybody. You forget that martial arts at the highest level has no 'rules'. This means you can hit, kick, punch, elbow, etc in any which way you want. Also, you forget that in modern fighting, there is actually no need to use your body to physically touch your opponent, due to the existence of projectile 'weapons'. Basically, with a projectile weapon, you can take down anybody, or they can take you down, or you can take each other down.

Jack Dempsey was a badass brawler. Many men that laughed at him found themselves looking up at the primitive lights.

Bruce Lee's side kick and right hand framing/staggering jab would be really really great to master... As a matter of fact, Wonderboy mentioned how he throws his side kicks from the back insead of the side, and how he uses the heel to penetrate insteadnof the blade of the foot. In a way, Bruce has already proved himself worth analyzing.

@LawrenceKenshin

2 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK

2 жыл бұрын

When u push the bag with ur leg vs kicking it it will appear to have far more power. He was 120 lbs soaking wet he had zero power bro. Bantam weights dont have power they have speed and at 120 lbs I should hope u have speed smh

@krayziejerry

2 жыл бұрын

@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK Joe Lewis disagrees with you, He was a heavyweight kickboxing champion that won at least 10 belts, also known as the father of kickboxing. He said he sparred with Bruce before and Bruce could hit as hard as his own weightlcass. Bruce had freakish speed, more so than any other lightweight. Look at Bruce Lee speed kick and Bruce Lee unnoticed movements, he can fake a punch to the ribs, then immediately follow up with a hook punch, make it look like one punch, and this is only in his demonstrations. Not many fighters I see have that kind of speed. I'm not saying that Bruce Lee would win against anyone, but saying Bruce Lee has no power whatsoever is an ignorant statement.

@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK

2 жыл бұрын

@@krayziejerry Lmao so who did Bruce Lee fight that was a world champion like Chuck Norris? He never fought anyone which is why he never lost lmao. Hes a myth bro get over it. He was an actor not a professional fighter like Chuck who was ALSO an actor. He never proved anything to anyone ever. Stop trolling

@krayziejerry

2 жыл бұрын

@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK Not trolling, you just never done your homework, not even Connor Mcgregor talks smack about Bruce Lee and he talks smack about practically everyone, even said he would be champion. Jon Jones, Anthony Pettis, Anderson Silva, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson all said Bruce Lee was the real deal. watch?v=k2XV431fblk

The way Bruce fought in films was very different from what he thought was effective in practice. The biography of him by Matthew Polly goes into this as well

@drhkleinert8241

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, his JKD isnt good for screen but for reality. Lee said that he use spectacular things on the screen just for the effect at the audition, in a real fight he never would use that jumps and high kicks (or Nunchaku). Small example, a real fight lasts only a few seconds, in a Movie it takes some minutes and even after a hard kick or punch in the face there is no pain or effect at the fighter...no blood from the nose, no broken Jaw...

@dingfeldersmurfalot4560

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, people like Dan Inosanto said Bruce could make high kicks work, but he didn't believe in them in the street and didn't spar with them.

Really infamous idea to criticize a dead guy

He never claimed to be the best and he never entered sport because there are rules and regulations. He was a philosopher who focused on the reality of combat, he didn't focus on sport. He was not an actor acting like a martial artist, he was a martial artist who used the advent of film and cinema to spread his philosophies of martial arts.

Bruce lee is the reason why I started martial arts 🥋 what a true legend he is✌🏻

@alexyordanov6250

Жыл бұрын

I am wing chun student. I am 2 level now, but I know a lot of knife defence technics and tricks with which I can easily defeat boxers and kick boxers. The champion from Bulgaria told me that I have a great punching technic .

@guts7958

Жыл бұрын

@@alexyordanov6250 so you gonna show your fights

@yungthorough

Жыл бұрын

Bruce Lee is overrated tra$h 👎🏾

@pichupuche2474

Жыл бұрын

Bruce Lee inspired people in the movie same as Batman and Superman did but it didn't mean that he was a good fighter.

@neveroutofbalance365

Жыл бұрын

@@pichupuche2474 stop talking

Agree with you fully on his fighting ability and the fact he was untested, imo the importance of Bruce Lee was how his ideas of mixing martial arts were way ahead of his time, although he was untested he did train across multiple disciplines in a time where many people were very rigidly stuck in one.

@warriorandchildofgod2425

2 жыл бұрын

Untested in your sights but everything on camera does not equate with being untested. He's been tested many times actually and won.

@bobmarley6306

2 жыл бұрын

@@warriorandchildofgod2425 Everything on camera is against an inexperienced student and he still mixes up his stance. Anyways when I say untested I mean no official fight record (aside from high school boxing ofc). I am a big fan of Bruce and respect him but as the video says he is officially untested and the only record we have of him fighting is rumours. It would have been great to see him enter proper tournaments I think he would have learned and achieved even more. He clearly had great talent speed and natural fight IQ which could have been grown with official tournament fighting.

@warriorandchildofgod2425

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobmarley6306 I'll give you that.

@bobmarley6306

2 жыл бұрын

@@warriorandchildofgod2425 I look up to him a lot and he was certainly very ahead of his time with his way of thinking, and an extraordinary athlete.

@bobmarley6306

2 жыл бұрын

@BigJohn Hansome I'm sure there were many others, but yeah as you said Bruce managed to get the message out more through the publicity of being a movie star

something nobody ever talks about... he had very bad eyesight. And thats a very good reason, NOT to fight. From the footage we see; very good timing, precision and understanding of balance. He surely sparred alot, maybe not in the sense that we think of, but he was clearly not a phony.

Bruce Lee was an amazing fighter and his athletic ability was like nobody else in his time, he was decades ahead of other martial artists.

@50thdollar61

2 жыл бұрын

I respect Bruce lee so much for his dedication to his body but I do not think he was a fighter

@andreiyulo3819

2 жыл бұрын

@@50thdollar61 oh really? Is not a fighter? Can you please define to me what is the real fighter to you? Thanks 🙂

@50thdollar61

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreiyulo3819 a person who has records of actual fights and not sparring matches

@phoenix21studios

2 жыл бұрын

No one is just going to take the word of a friend, you have to PROVE yourself if you want to be recognized. Bruce Lee has my respect for his dedication to training but he wasn't a fighter, has no record, has no black belt of any kind, and chose to fight for real this one time behind closed doors against a no name guy and even then the stories are conflicting on what happened. Sorry but that's no different than a guy that builds a race car, tells you its the fastest but NEVER enters a race. We have nothing to go on with Bruce Lee.

@50thdollar61

2 жыл бұрын

@@phoenix21studioswhen you ask Bruce lee fans what’s their source they send you a video of Someone saying Bruce lee is strong

Respect is earned and not asked for, and watching the countless interviews of great fighters showing so much respect for Bruce Lee speaks louder than words of his true ability as a fighter and legend in his own right!

@jakemay637

2 жыл бұрын

Great boxers revere Lee Sugar Ray Leonard says he developed his jab from watching Lee films Manny Pacquiao too. Founder of Seal Team ,6 has nothing but good to say for the real world application of JKD.He tested it himself and was black and blue against a second generation JKD guy. Fellow Seals told him This guy can hurt you by just looking at you.

@jakemay637

2 жыл бұрын

Boxing trainer visiting Lee said he could be world champion. A martial artist visiting from Japan was asked his opinion of Bruce ... He knew all the masters : "Osoroshi!" / Terrifying. The hapkido master in Game of Death was a military trainer. He thought that Bruce was just an actor. He was shocked that 130 lb guy could lift him up at 180 lbs in the backbreaking scene. "He lifted me over and over take after take with ease and not tiring." Edit. The guy in Game of Death was arguably the founder of Hapkido...he definitely founder of Moo Sin Hapkido. He was S. Korean president's personal bodyguard (after GoD) In US he trained special ops and Secret Service. Ali said if Bruce entered boxing he would be world champ. Finally, Chuck Norris wrote to Bruce handwritten letter: it is a privilege to learn from you. You are master of martial arts. 👁️👁️

@gradyhernandez4699

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakemay637 oh

@DavidHughesKJN

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakemay637 Con artists have fabricated many fake stories about Lee and his feats. Can you provide any real proof of your claims like these people saying these things themselves or are you just quoting what you have heard from the scam artists? I have seen copies of the letter Norris wrote and despite the framing of narrative of the video around if, Norris never said that he was Lee’s student. Have you actually seen Ali say this about Lee on video and if so, would you be kind enough to share a link? And what boxing trainer said this of Lee and can you post a link of him saying this or is this just a quote from one of the false claims put out by one of the con men’s videos that you have bought into? Just because a martial artist is visiting from Japan doesn’t mean he represents “all the masters.” Ji Han-jae did film GAME OF DEATH with Lee, but even in his youth, I seriously doubt that he was 180 lbs. Do you have any proof or even any references for that? Or are your sources like the videos and channels who claim that Lee set all sorts of fictional world records? The ones that have been thoroughly debunked and completely fabricated by its authors who made it all up, but his fans still quote as if anything on said videos were even remotely true.

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakemay637 Ali never spoke on on Bruce lee, as for the other stuff seems farfetched

Bet you 99% of people doesn't know Bruce has PHD in Philosophy and his thesis is all about the art of fighting.

If you ever watched those old videos of Bruce Lee practicing Wing Chun (before he developed JKD), you will realize that he definitely know how to defend and attack at the same time.

Bruce wasn't interested in the ring because the ring has rules and limitations for fighting. Bruce was all about maximizing skills and talents. Organized fighting limits this and goes against everything Bruce believed.

@TyFhoonBoom

2 жыл бұрын

This is not true. Back then, there was barely any, if any rules in organized fight. Why didn't he try his hand in Vale Tudo?

@koraegi

2 жыл бұрын

Like the anus kick while the guy is on the ground

@WoodyGamesUK

2 жыл бұрын

Not to take anything away from how great he was, but fighting in the ring with rules open up the possibility (and certainty) that you will lose, at some point. I believe Bruce Lee could have been the best in the world in any martial art he trained for, but through dedicated practice for the competition, hard work, and it would have been hard to stay on top, as it always is. He would have had wins and defeats, like everyone. He's only human and at that level everyone makes mistakes, no-one can win every time (as in any sport).

@greezythumb

2 жыл бұрын

@@TyFhoonBoom It's very true there were rules. As many as today, certainly not but we're still talking about rules. Bruce was a street fighter as a kid and this is what was the goal for his training, not winning tournaments which had limitations on what you could do and use. Use what works and throw away what doesn't. Why didn't he try his hand at Vale Tudo? Who said he didn't? And what if he didn't? So what.

@adlansan5187

2 жыл бұрын

that doesnt mean trained ring fighters way above his weight class would't also beat the living shit out of him in a streetfight

The best inspiration that people got from Bruce Lee, was for countless individuals to go on and learn martial arts. It was through watching his footage that gave me and so many others the hunger to learn how to fight.

@islamisthetruewaytogod6812

Жыл бұрын

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Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them)… Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI). Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy. Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI). Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". 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@pattrell5257

Жыл бұрын

@@islamisthetruewaytogod6812 it is the devil or might as well be satan himself! If there is a difference, then they both lead you to heII! YHWH, YAHUWAH, is the HEAVENLY FATHER and Yeshua/Yahshua is the ONLY WAY of eternal salvation! It that were not true, why exactly has everything prophesied in the bible already come true or unrolling like a scroll before our eyes?! Please don't follow alIah into hell!

Why would you ever compare a person's heavybag training technique as if it's demonstrable of their in-fighting techniques? That's quite illogical in observation of the situational needs.

Bruce Lee lived in a time where full contact mixed martial art professional fights were not known in the world. Even kickboxing wasn't even well known. The World Championship Kickboxing event held in Tokyo, Japan, in 1975 made kickboxing and Thai Boxing famous.Bruce died in 1973. He believed in full contact sport and in fighting without a style. So he was way ahead of time. He grew up as a hothead streetfighter, practised different martial arts and many professional fighters testify about his greatness. Was he good? Yes! And he learned extremely fast. But he died too young to really witness how he would adapt to the evolution in the combat world.

He was never interested in professional fighting but I’m sure if he participated in UFC and actually trained to win, he would’ve been a champion. His work ethic, athleticism and IQ is crazy

@kuroryudairyu4567

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@lernenfinn.1709

2 жыл бұрын

Heck because of HIM that MMA exist today.

@kmtlau21

2 жыл бұрын

you are absolutely correct.

@anthonyallen9560

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

@glennauyoung7200

2 жыл бұрын

With Bruce ability to adapt, if he was alive and trained in mma and compete,sure he will be a champion

I've heard those close to Bruce Lee say He was an amazing street fighter, and that in truth is where all real fighters are tested. It is also said that his move to the states was prompted by his inability to keep his hands clear as a young person- he just wouldn't stop brawling. I competed for much of my young life- and was good by ring standards, but learned a valuable lesson at a gas station one winter evening. I changed my training methods after that, and eventually found a practical application for my newly acquired skill-set. I am a licensed private security contractor and executive protection specialist with 25 years in the field. I understand the premise of the Bruce Lee untested argument, but I know some PMC contractors and a few 321 Marines who would be upset with select comments. Don't disrespect the science good sir, Bruce (amongst others) developed a cross training i.e. mixed martial arts mentality that influenced countless generations. Every one of us- Pride, K1, Waka World, Virginia First Blood, 2 Keys, UFC, Pancrace, and a host of raw uncut no rules shoot fighters respect Bruce, and know that every win is a debt paid and a promise kept to the king of street fighters.

@bertt1055

2 жыл бұрын

Nicely put. I have never been in the ring and rarely train with the heavy bag but during sparring and street fights, I'm able to handle myself. I'm not saying I'm pro level but the author blindly concluding that Bruce couldn't fight just cos he was never in a tournament or didn't use the heavy bag according to how others would use it, is plain warped logic.

@jewellui

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a fan of Bruce Lee but his opponents in his street fights probably weren’t good fighters, probably the same with street fighters generally. Most Hong Kongers are physically not just short but very slim, also at this time a lot of Chinese went through a lot of struggles just to survive even starvation. Bruce Lee also had an advantage coming from a pretty wealthy family so he would have been well nourished although the diet probably would have still been quite poor. I’d think a lot of his opponents were from gangs too who wouldn’t really have trained to fight whilst he was at least practicing some martial arts.

@grantsolomon7660

2 жыл бұрын

@@bertt1055 Well it's nonsense that he didn't have a heavy bag.He had a bag so heavy that most people could barely move it but he could make it hit the roof after a kick.This may or may not be true but he by accounts had one.

@stephenboyes5189

2 жыл бұрын

@@grantsolomon7660 the bag in question is in the Inosanto Academy in Los Angeles so is his mook jong wooden dummy which has car suspension parts because he used to rip the traditional ones off the wall

@javieracevedo4406

2 жыл бұрын

CLAPPING LOUDLY! Coming from the streets of the Bronx in the early 70s, the street fights is what molded your fighting style and provided valuable lessons to built on. I had plenty of boxing friends that in street fights got demolished. No disrespect to discipline art (boxing, kickboxing, etc.) but in the streets there are no rules and all you can rely on is raw talent and lessons learned from wins or losses. Bruce Lee will forever be both a legend and mystery which all others will try to live up to.

In my earlier message, I forgot to say, my respect to all champions in every martial arts out there. 8:52

This is the same shit ppl do on Jet li. Any fighter knows that a ruled, judged & timed fight is already unfair

Regardless if Bruce could beat (Insert name) or not, he is a martial arts icon and his name will forever be cemented in the history of the art for centuries to come. Many people respect his legacy, philosophy, and skills, others don't respect him for their own reasons, but Bruce made an impact on the world in his short 32 years of life.

@manafbenayache1880

Жыл бұрын

I can accept that , well said , but for the people who hated or hates him ! It s so simple he was so cool that bullies and thugs could not bear that !

@LawrenceKenshin

Жыл бұрын

for sure

@eddiegee2940

Жыл бұрын

They accuse Bruce try to sell too much of himself and his JKD. Is because he's trying to feed his family, he never had a 9 to 5 stable job, but being an instructor and that wasn't enough. What gets me the jealous losers don't see that or didn't want to see it that way, just lame excuse to throw shade at a dead person.

@guts7958

Жыл бұрын

@@eddiegee2940 Bruce was a well paid actor he had rich parents too he didn't struggle 🙄

@eddiegee2940

Жыл бұрын

@@guts7958 You try to be slick and put it back in my plate demanding footage when I challenged you first to backup your argument and all you did is deflect/avoid like a coward. Don't care what you say little punk from this point on. Because you are disrespectful, disregard people's recollection of Bruce when they spent time with Bruce.

He don’t need to fight to your standards to be a great fighter

@MrCmon113

Жыл бұрын

The standard is to actually fight, you clown.

One thing I'd like to point out and clarify and it has nothing to do with the video itself, Bruce Lee wasn't untrained. He was Untested in the ring, Agree with that, but not untrained. He was completely trained, in fact by some of the best masters in certain martial arts and not just that, he was self trained as well. He dedicated his life to self reflection of his Style and training, which to me is the most important trait for a martial artist. Maybe by modern MMA standards and standards of other martial arts and boxing rules.. his technique is a bit sloppy and doesn't pass the technical assessment, but that's the nature of marital arts in general its constantly evolving. And the most important reason why i think Bruce Lee would have excelled as a Martial Artist not just in those times but also in modern times, was coz of his Philosophy specifically towards martial arts and fighting. He was willing to adopt the best of each style into his own. He put no limitations or boundaries for himself and his style of fighting and this philosophy later became the corner stone of modern MMA.

@AJOLDMUSI

28 күн бұрын

I feel like just causese he wasn't a paid, sponsored, huge competitor of a l fighter (in his later years!) people get confused, since when does sparring not count as being in real fight he fucked up joe lewis mad quickly

At 5:09 that was Andy Hug vs a Thai fighter. Agreed on rules if no punches to the face but the Thai fighter (from muscle memory) still hit Andy in the face. Andy went on and became a K1 champion in 1996, then runner up in 1997/98 until his death in August of 2000. RIP Andy! (Sorry, didn’t mean to highjack your Bruce Lee topics…) Thank you!

Bruce Lee was simply The Best martial artist! 50 years after he passed on and people are *still* talking about him, his art, and his skill set....Nuff said!

@donaldstanfield3486

2 жыл бұрын

Mike Tyson couldn't beat Buster Douglas he would have no chance against Bruce Lee . Bruce was so fast he could kill a man before he knew what hit him 😳.

@n.b.l.5709

2 жыл бұрын

movies help lol

@n.b.l.5709

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldstanfield3486 wow, like in his movies huh

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldstanfield3486 that would imply Bruce beat Buster

@stigtuneback1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@donaldstanfield3486 im a huge fan of bruce lee and his art jeet kune do , but i think bruce fight tyson does not have to mean that even bruce´s speed and power had beat tyson easily , tyson might have gone down , but maby bruce to if tyson had hit him wich i dont think had been a problem , might have been an equal match , who knows .

3:15 I don’t think this exercise was intended for technique, speed, stance, reflexes whatsoever. I think it’s a simple display of raw power and explosiveness. His balance and overall technique on films and in the sparring video were flawless.

@Yakikadafi86

3 ай бұрын

Yes exactly. You see him in other footage using pretty good boxing techniques. Stance, dodging, jabs and hooks.

@kiillabytez

2 ай бұрын

You could make a 10-year old with no fighting skill look like the greatest fighter in the world with the right choreographer.

@carl_anderson9315

2 ай бұрын

@@kiillabytez Eeeh nope you can’t

@kiillabytez

2 ай бұрын

@@carl_anderson9315 It's been done thousands of times in the movies. Do you think The Avengers was a real thing? How about Lord of the Rings? Star Wars? So, yeah, you can.

@carl_anderson9315

2 ай бұрын

@@kiillabytez None of those Hollywood actors are martial artists. Bruce Lee was. And before you mention it: no, tournament fighting and a martial arts are not the same concepts, although they not mutually exclusive. Bruce Lee dedicated his life to martial arts. The fact that to this day there are people struggling with the idea is mind blowing for me. It’s like me having to explain why Frank Sinatra was an actor and a singer as well.

Many of his fights were disclosed to honor the opponent from disgrace. He had honor.

@AJOLDMUSI

28 күн бұрын

definitely

BL was not a fighter, he was a dancer, comedian, actor... I was a teenager when he was alive and in Hong Kong with Wong Shun Leung. WSL always said that B.Li (no ee ) was a fake and just a smart businessman.

I never believed the whole 700 pound bag side kick story, but we all know the impact he had on film and modern martial arts such as the ufc. As for the punching bag footage, if I’m not mistaken, that may be the only footage of him punching the bag. Sometimes you just goof around and throw hooks. I know in my training I have done that. But again we just don’t know a lot about bruce lee and if he could take a punch. Great video ✊🏼

@LawrenceKenshin

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers! U can swing around with good technique

@m.israel2209

2 жыл бұрын

@@LawrenceKenshin for sure. At the end of my rounds I just goof around and you could also mess around with good technique. I think bruce was just trying to load up to show his power. All in all great analysis.

@jamesdspaderf2883

2 жыл бұрын

The story I heard, many years ago, is different. Bruce would swing the bag and aim to stop it with his side kick. He figured, if he could do that he could knock any man on his ass, with the kick.

@fletmok3548

2 жыл бұрын

It was mentioned in another KZread vid that the footage of Bruce Lee hitting the heavy bag was one of his first sessions back after his back injury. (Matthew Polly)

@Robert399

2 жыл бұрын

True, but the way he punches suggests that his habit is to punch from the hip (which isn't too surprising given his traditional wushu background).

I have read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do and the four "Bruce Lee's fighting method" books. The type of work out you see on the clip with the canvas bag is endurance based. Lee believed that all precision "skill" based training should be done whilst fresh. What you see here is just output of power for the sake of exercise. If you look at sparing footage you will see evidence of a modified Wing Chun centre line stance. Lee also believed in learning and unlearning continuously to derive at the "natural" and most fluid fighting method for an individual. Picking on someone pounding on a bag, footage that was never intended to be used for instructional purposes or demonstration is just stupid.

@Yuffie777

11 ай бұрын

Bit much to judge without the context isn't it?

@chucklee347

9 ай бұрын

Which proved my point I knew what Bruce was doing soon as I saw it. He's in nice clothes. HE wasn't fighting or training or teaching. He was wearing his self out. I would give anything if Bruce was still around. But like in the 70's there were scoffers and unbelievers. I'm shocked that guys that have degrees in martial arts can't know these things. Like the good book says. Thoueth needeth to shut thy moutheth before thy get thou asseth kicked.😮

@riezexeero7392

9 ай бұрын

He doesn't even know the context of the video and he judged Bruce Lee's fighting skills over that rather than legit master who is saying otherwise. Clap!

agreed 100%. potential is not actual. the same as a theory is not the fact.

To the best of my knowledge Bruce Lee never claimed to be the best, but he trained with world class martial artists and awed anyone he fought against. In the end let's not argue over an unanswerable question and appreciate what he left us with.

"Never tested in a ring..." The author of this video just stated that he won high school boxing championships. Those are ring fights.

@Jenjak

2 жыл бұрын

Very low level...

@DavidHughesKJN

2 жыл бұрын

One very, very low level competition.

@davidmccann9811

2 жыл бұрын

A school title does not make you a great fighter. I competed at that same level when I was 14, and I never even turned pro.

@DavidHughesKJN

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmccann9811 This is not in reference to or a put down of what you did as a teenager, but this is extremely distant from even the lowest tiers of pros. I was 14-0 as an amateur in boxing. Mostly to assist me in becoming a pro in kickboxing and while that is far more than Lee did in boxing, what I did was next to nothing in that sport.

@miguelrivera6146

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't went deep in the life of Mr. Lee His ring was outside

You can't claim to be "the best" under controlled conditions. Bruce Lee got into fights all the time during the making of his movies and in real life. No one was able to beat him. The only good technique is the one that wins and every fighter develops their own technique that is suited to their physique. That's why Bruce developed, Jeet kune do (the way of the intercepting fist).

@stigtuneback1966

2 жыл бұрын

well said and very true , i really did not think it had to be so much explained what you just said for others to understand aboute bruce , but the discussion and the talk aboute him goes on , and since he never fought in the ring to prove and show his skills , it seems he will never be accepted for what he was and could do . in the eyes of most people , for him to be taken for a good fighter , he really had to accept a fight in the ring towardes another fighter and win in any way possible , seems like a person cant be good at something unless mesured towards others , but thats just me and my personal opinion .

@no-sparringholloway

2 жыл бұрын

You can't really say he was a legit fighter without any real evidence either. Petr Yan easily destroys prime Bruce Lee. The man was undoubtedly incredible, but being able to fight real fighters today is a different page.

@stigtuneback1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@no-sparringholloway well , there is no one who can really tell or say how bruce had done against fighters of today since he past long ago , we can only speculate aboute that for ages to come , no real reason for it or that either for real i mean . and to , that no one can again tell or say if he had changed his JKD to this day and age depending on how he had looked at the world of MA as it is and has developed through the years since he past .

@no-sparringholloway

2 жыл бұрын

@@stigtuneback1966 skill wise, anyone who has trained in his life before can tell Bruce Lee wasn't even close to today's fighters. In case of learning, anyone can do so, even fighters today are still learning, that's why MMA keeps involving.

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@no-sparringholloway 100% agreed

"his arms got broken from the impact" - what was he? Glass man?

In a mixed martial arts fight, between a professionally trained Bruce Lee for 6 to 8 months, as most fighters do today, trained by the best boxing/mui thai/jujitsu trainers in combat sports, 50/50 chance Mike Tyson gets sent to the shadow realm for a short visit with Liu Kang.

In short terms: He had the ability and the talent to become a world class fighter, but instead he chose to be work as an actor. That's why we have no data about him on how good he really was.

@hanspeter0007

Жыл бұрын

@@cheaptrick5873 nice answer

@hanspeter0007

Жыл бұрын

@@cheaptrick5873 Can you actually read? Did I write anything about Bruce Lee beating a heawyweight champion? Man people nowadays are so stupid.

@NuclearOverload

Жыл бұрын

@@cheaptrick5873 no shit sherlock

@Replied_ByMeatr1der5

Жыл бұрын

@@cheaptrick5873 World class fighter, clearing insinuating he'll be champ in his own weight class

@muratyildiz506

Жыл бұрын

nothing proves that statement, the fact is, he only was an actor, and he never dominated other fighters in an real compition, like he dominated other actors in the movies, lol

Bruce Lee NEVER claimed to be "The Greatest" martial artist, that unofficial title was given to him by his peers which some would say is an even greater accomplishment than Muhammad Ali achieved having given himself that title (The Greatest) even though it was true of him. Having stated that there is no archival footage of Bruce Lee actually fighting, you cannot pick apart his demonstration at a tournament, and say his stance maintenance, and recovery is weak, or that his strength isn't up to par to be a great fighter. (When demonstrating you do certain things that may not be perfect in a life or death situation, but to show a principal you have to demonstrate in a way that meets the needs of the situation / technique he is demonstrating) You know just as we all do that, training is a sloppy, ugly thing and you probably wont see the best of a fighter when he is discovering his own mistakes and weaknesses, and as far as his strength, you tell me from the footage, had he kicked that huge bag 10 times before that filming, or was that the very first set of kicks off a warm up (which makes a difference) I say with the lack of video evidence it is impossible to say Bruce was this or that if not for the stories, told by those who knew him and trained with him, and all the stories of the challenge matches that were constant... why can we not count witness accounts, into this equation. I say look at what he taught, what he actually taught and said NOT what you think he taught and said, look at that, and compare it to what you saw him do in his movies, books and manuals, practice the techniques yourself as he says do so and if the strategies, attacks, philosophies, and techniques work... then add them together in your own walk, and you have an amalgam that is a snapshot of the man himself. Meaning if you do one of these things for instance his one inch punch, become mechanically proficient at using it, understand what he said about WHEN to use it, train the muscle groups he trained to use it, keep in mind his strategies and philosophies, when it is all said and done use it as he did, use it on weighted bags and if you are moving a 100 lbs. in 1 inch as a novice, how much more so was Bruce able to move being a master. I dunno but I heard of an account where he hit a 300 lb. man and sent him flying if that isn't power i don't know what is. (if you take and develop al his techniques in this way and they are useful and powerful then the man was powerful himself case closed) The the question comes, why are there so many stories about him then?, why were all the stars flocking to him to learn? (and paying him a mint to do so), I love Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, and Jim Kelly but the A crowd didn't flock to them for lessons like they did Bruce, so i think there must be something to all these stories. I say if you cant disprove it by recreating what he did as he did, the exact way he did it, and determining honestly that these things do not work, and cant be used, then let sleeping giants lay... (as far as him punching the heavy bag in a brawling fashion, look at a few things, he probably wanted to know what he looked like real time hitting as hard as he could, and where his weaknesses are, i say this because that is what I would wanna know, i don't think he was wearing gloves and he was hitting canvas and knocking that bag around like it was nothing (it would shred most peoples hands to do that), and he wasn't even winded while throwing multiple haymakers, not to mention his footwork when backing off the bag that was swinging back towards him maintaining perfect distance... also might he have just been blowing off steam while he pounded that bag? who uses perfect form blowing off steam? I think you were reaching with your critique of his form, but whatever helps you sleep at night, ya know)

@laxer123

2 жыл бұрын

BL never thought of himself as a fighter and he once laughed and said .. I never knew what I did would lead to this.. meaning acting. BL was a movie martial artist but he could do his best to his own size and weight if he had to..yet never proven and never will be...

@JohnathanStatic

2 жыл бұрын

@@laxer123 Where on earth did you get that nonsense from? Have you spoken to Guro Dan Inosanto, have you read any of the biographical stuff... have you listened to his contemporaries? or are you regurgitating some fringe notion you got from a Tarantino website? What you just wrote is contrary to decades of accurate information and accounts from people of that day

@guts7958

2 жыл бұрын

@@laxer123 I agree completely

@harrissourapas6840

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnathanStatic congrats, you spent 30 minutes on a KZread comment

@LawrenceKenshin

Жыл бұрын

@@harrissourapas6840 hahahahaha

the greatest Bruce Lee achievement is not a tournaments but how many times people trying to put him in the tournaments against big stars in their imagination

I used to practise Kung Fu and when I was beginner my teacher told me that never fight like Bruce Lee because it's lack of technic and not real fighter and he is more like movie star however my teacher is agreed that Bruce is fastest, strongest and explosive that martial arts have known. My teacher says exactly like this video

I know we all hate that we'll never see what it looks like to see Bruce fight someone for real

All of yall are wrong. He is the greatest period, he literally mastered "the art of fighting without fighting" he didn't need to prove anything it was never about blood or ego. It was about understanding and mastering great power and abilities within and not abusing it.

@altumurnemtzra2026

2 жыл бұрын

he was an actor, there i finished it for you. he's about as great as jackie chan or chuck noris. not much

@rogohophotos

2 жыл бұрын

@@altumurnemtzra2026 Lol mr wish he knew it all news flash he became an actor after mastery but nice try tho. It amazes me how much people don't know jack about the actual art of fighting and him bringing that art to the big screen so cats like Norris and Jackie could get an opportunity to succeed by this art so by you saying what you just said is disrespectful to the whole art form and its entirety and everybody evolved shows what u really kno about it smh....oh well 🤷🏾‍♂️

@altumurnemtzra2026

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogohophotos Please spare me the rubbish, the early 90 was rife with frauds and wanna be martial artists. Everyone like to tell stories and mystify something straight forward, just like you're trying to do right now. bruce jackie and norris were actors and that's it, if you think they were much more than that then you know jack shit about fighting. i'll give bruce credit were it's due, he had the correct mindset, but as far as actual ability, never seen none and the few sparing sessions he had and demonstrations speak much more of a guy that has no clue of how to fight. at best i'd call him a street fighter but even that is not proven. Heck if you delve into his past you'll see less of a martial artist and more of an actor that sold the idea of a mystical chinese art to the west at the time were they ate it up like butter.

the Speed of Boxing in Enter the Dragon vs Bob Wall was Incredible

Bruce Lee was not just a kung fu master. Bruce Lee was a boxer, a kickboxer and a grappler.

@Andres64B

Жыл бұрын

Bruce Lee never fought a single match in his life. His lifetime record was 0-0-0. But somehow clowns like you think that he was a great fighter.

@darksaintxvi6914

Жыл бұрын

Wow! An mma guy! Good fuckin job Einstein

@guts7958

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't any of those

@bigzoe1283

Жыл бұрын

Bruce get his whooped this time and age 😂😂

@jonbabe24ify

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he even studied judo for years

He realized the importance of the philosophy of MMA training long before the UFC. Used western boxing, Muay Thai, jiujutsu, wrestling, etc in JKD. The strong hand being the lead hand I think came from either fencing or wing chun.

@frankthetank2284

Жыл бұрын

I always used my power hand as a jabber, wise choice since in boxing the jab is the main weapon to perfect in that sport

@user-sg8kq7ii3y

Жыл бұрын

The founders of Kajukenbo started mixing different arts WAY WAY WAY before Bruce Lee did. KA = Karate; JU = Judo/Jujitsu; KEN = Kenpo; BO = Boxing. Bruce was NOT the first one to do this.

@GDCDGC

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y most of these lee fanboys do not know the true history of mixed martial arts. There are those dumb enough to believe and insist that lee created mma

@user-sg8kq7ii3y

Жыл бұрын

@@GDCDGC Yes, for sure. It's ridiculous how they insist that he is "The Godfather of MMA". The Kajukenbo founders created it before he did. Pankration practitioners were mixing grappling and striking from as far back as 600 B.C.

@GDCDGC

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y yup. Pankration, kajukenbo, sambo, vale tudo, savate, etc. All of these were already existing before lee was even born. They got the idea that lee is the godfather of mma from dana white. He was the one who said that way back in 2004. He mentioned it again a few years back when he was promoting the ufc video game in which lee was a downloadable character

Very well put💯💪🏾

Bruce knew how to dismantle a person with and shut them down if it really came down to it in 60 seconds.

@user-rb6iy2lq8p

Ай бұрын

Oy much as he studied the art that goes way back to his ancestors he knew how to use the side of his hands to break someone's neck he new all the pressure points and where to hit another man to put him down did you see for instance wen him and chuck Norris was fighting about the end of the fight he broke chucks wrist it happens quick you got to look at it close to see it he did that with the edge of his hands I no it's just a movie but that shows what he could do in a real fight to disable a man he studied and profected how to cripple or kill you if he had to and that's what the Art is All About right?

Bruce was an incredible athlete and entertainer. One of the greatest icons of the last century. That's more than enough. What a shame the world didn't get to see more.

@guts7958

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y that could be said about so many though

@guts7958

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y I agree, no one's perfect, look at Jon he cheats and beats his wife all the time, yet you can't deny he's a heck of a fighter

@XicorVT

11 ай бұрын

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y who cares if he cheated on his wife not our problem thats there problem