Britain has long tradition of ignoring international law and treaties.

@Lucid.dreamer

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The hypocritical EU breaks International law *every single day.* It won't join the UN because it is "incompatible with EU law" yet it insists every member is signatory and insists the UK is, too. 🖕 The EU. They are crooks and scammers.

@Lucid.dreamer

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The EU engages in assisting *people trafficking* on a daily basis. The EU is a load of Sh*t. Crooks Scammers Liars Hypocrites Anti democracy They are a pack of charletons. With nothing to offer. It's a con and you are the target 🎯. EU money gets paid to *mafia.* That is a fact. And you support the grifters.

@andyjordan79

Жыл бұрын

Britain has a long tradition of taking in the most vulnerable

Excellent talk thank you.

@federaltrust

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Looks like we're joining the new AXIS POWER -RUSSIA -BELORUS-UK ----well done Torries

Bankrupsies up ten fold since the Brexit referendum, 500 companies per week closing down, moving to mainland Europe or reducing in size, 75% of farms not sewing crops, rearing livestock or planting for next season, 30 large hospitality groups, closing down, reducing in size or going bust, 75% of light vehicle production stopped since Brexit.We better photograph a small boat to level things up. Eh?

@Lucid.dreamer

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Think of a number and double it. Name me just some of those businesses that went bankrupt because of brexit. I'll list you out dozens of businesses that went bankrupt under the EU. You liars.

@Lucid.dreamer

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Hospitality groups? Ah, all because of brexit. Nothing to do with an 18 month lockdown and travel restrictions. You're a pretty stew pid individual.

If you're struggling the Tories say get a better job but their point base system that allows people from foreign countries to take these higher-paying jobs works in contradiction.

Resentment of the ECHR is entirely of a piece with the unrealistic nationalism which motivates many advocates of Brexit.

What happened to sentence “Let’s fund NHS instead!” ? 500million Pounds to France so NHS is now all right well funded working piece of art?

ERG I believe want England on the Thames, & are not really interested in the rest of the Uk.the language in Britain in the early 30s was quite similar (The Mail)

@gloin10

Жыл бұрын

And 'The Daily/Sunday Express'....

Soooo, HOW is that "Taking Back Control!", Brixit, thing going? Working out well, is it? Asking for a friend, obviously.....

Wasn't it Grandpa Johnson that was involved in the creation of the EHRC? Also, Is Braverman now trying to soil the name of the bloke known forever as football's Mr Nice by returning naming all the things that make it insulting to question as it really is happening, and that is before we discuss Russian involvement in the Tory party.

Excellent analysis

It was always foreseeable that Brexit and specifically the absence of ‘sunny uplands’ would result in the creation of radical right wing forces that would seek to drag Britain to a ‘black shirted’ future. I admit I didn’t think the Tories would transform themselves into a government of the kind Benito M would advocate.

@federaltrust

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Harold Wilson was right when he said leaving what was then the European Community would help the wrong sort of people to gain power in the Uk.

That appalling, inhumane 'no one arrives by boats gets to stay" is copying from Australia. We here in Oz simply ignore the international law rbar that we are signatories to, sadly and to our shame.

If the Tories want to stop immigrants from coming to Britain, all they need to do is show them what post-Brexit Britain is like.

lol, the judges aren't real judges "they don't have wigs" 🤣

All there going to do is hold them in France until there claims come through then let them in making the public think because the boats have slowed down there's not as many coming in . All smoke and mirrors and a waiste of money.

And France gets off the hook!

@PMMagro

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To my knowledge very few Frenchmen emigrate to the UK. Once you where in the EU France had to co-oparte but now it is litterally your own problem if people take boat and enter the Uk illegally...

Ah yes,nimbys r us.What's their solution?! I'm all ears

Tennyson dedicated to Barrister Suella Braverman Sunset and evening star, And one clear call for me! And may there be no moaning of the bar, When I put out to sea, But such a tide as moving seems asleep, Too full for sound and foam, When that which drew from out the boundless deep Turns again home. Twilight and evening bell, And after that the dark! And may there be no sadness of farewell, When I embark; For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place The flood may bear me far, I hope to see my Pilot face to face When I have crost the bar. n/aSunset and evening star, And one clear call for me! And may there be no moaning of the bar, When I put out to sea, But such a tide as moving seems asleep, Too full for sound and foam, When that which drew from out the boundless deep Turns again home. Twilight and evening bell, And after that the dark! And may there be no sadness of farewell, When I embark; For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place The flood may bear me far, I hope to see my Pilot face to face When I have crost the bar. n/a

As evetything is no longer "Brussels faulT" you need a new esacpe goat. Why not go on PR-trip to Ukraine like BoJo did instead? Much cheaper than any Rwanda scheme and crearting complex systems to handle the slow Britihs bureaucracy on immigrants....

Notwithstanding the political rhetoric on illegal refugees, or the quatity of those seeking asylum in UK as opposed to other european nations, there is a problem in the whole approach to illegal entry and subsequent asylum application in all european nations. On the one hand, families fleeing persecution in say Iran is understandable and surely most people in europe would actively welcome and support those people. On the other hand, there are the sponsered single young men who are obliged to somehow get across the channrl and repay their families back home who provided the money to pay the traffickers and want to see areturn on their investment. Once a person sets foot in a country claiming asylum, under the treaty they have rights which in western countries as a rule are taken seriously. To determine whether a right for asylum exists often takes months and costs a fortune. Even when asylum is denied, there are more costs and serious difficulties in repatriating a person. It is therefore not surprising that authorities do not exactly put out a red carpet. In Hungary I understand, in order to stop illegal crossings from Serbia, the new border fence is constructed 2 metres inside the actual border line such that anyone who does get across can be pushed back without actually having left hungarian territory. This circumnavigates the asylum rules as once through the gate they ares still legally in hungary and can theoretically apply for asylum from there.. Thus as I see it, there is indeed a real dilemma if you wish to avoid a mass migration. You have genuine persons needing help and those that deliberately put themselves in danger on the high seas to be rescued and "work the asylum system at the expense of others. Not an easy problem to solve without drastic ,many would argue, inhumane measures.

Silly con

Why can’t we have someone who really loves Britian and our way of life running the country, someone who delivers for us, we’ve got nowhere else this is our home. Sort it out and quick!!

@gloin10

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"Why can’t we have someone who really loves Britian and our way of life running the country, someone who delivers for us..."? But you keep voting for Tories, who do NOT love Britain, or your way of life, and are busy running your country into the ground.... This is democracy. You get the government you deserve. It might not be the government you like, or need, but it IS the government you deserve because you voted for it.

These guys are misleading you. Taking back control of immigration means taking back control of immigration policy. This means that the government of the day, and all future UK governments can create, or change immigration policy according to.need or perhaps demand by the voters. They have hived off to attack a situation that cannot be easily solved by policy or law. I.E. Some gets on a boat somewhere and comes in a way that is against the law. None of these people suggest any solutions to stopping people conning in boats. I.E. The complain they don't like it but have no idea how to solve this. What we do know is those coming by illegal means has increased rapidly, and what we also are predicting is that with climate change with associated environment degradation, and probable war associated with that, that the numbers coming will certainly increase. These two also sidestepped and mention of the work the UK is doing with France to try and control this problem, no mention at all. One can only guess they sidestepped it because it doesn't suit their biased view. Immigration is not just a poo problem the UK has. It's also a major problem for countries in the EU, and they are also struggling. So again these men are just focused on throwing stones, and gave absolutely no idea about solutions. Labour will Most probably take the government benches and they will struggle just as much as all country governments struggle with this issue.

@saabsonsan

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What you are missing is that the majority of asylum seekers are coming from countries ruined by wars instigated by western powers. It’s immoral for western nations not to take responsibility for these displaced people

@peterclareburt4594

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@@saabsonsan yes but they are crossing multiple countries who could safely take them in. Further they are taking risks on life. Further if you created alternative and safer ways for them to come in, that would not reduce the numbers coming. Further if you did welcome them with open arms, even more would come, more lives risked. And lastly the projection out to the near to medium future based on recent statistics this number will increase exponentially over the next one or two decades. So it's easy to knock the government who have a job to do, but it's very very hard to.pose alternative solutions that will be accepted politically or by the majority of voters. This is the problem. All well and good to trash the government but offer no solution that will be acceptable.

@saabsonsan

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I take your points, however defending a government who has been in power for 13 years and has presided over all of this is wrong. We have had 13 years of austerity with cuts to public services and public service pay. This has resulted in an immigration system which is not fit for purpose. We are not checking any goods coming into the country because in Jacob Reese moggs words it would be financially too costly. The EU check all of our goods going to them. This is reflected in the asylum system with fewer staff and demoralised staff not coping with the demand. Is this the taking back control of borders you voted for in brexit? The last labour government deported tens of thousands of migrants legally each year. We can no longer do this due to boris Johnston oven ready brexit deal which failed to deal with the issue of asylum seekers. We cannnot simply now deport migrants back to France and we lost the Dublin agreement when we left the EU without a replacement. This has now crippled the over stretched asylum system. So to say that the government has a job to do reflects the failed policies of the current government. A solution would be to appropriately fund the relevant departments especially given the forecasts for increased migration and asylum claims. The government is now planning to spend half a billion pounds over three years to pay the French to stop the boats. Could this money not be spent better by investing in the system so it can cope with the increasing demand. I don’t think it is very sovereign to have to pay a neighbouring country to deal with a problem of your own creation by under investment. Brexit was fought over the issue of immigration, but given we no longer check the majority of goods entering this country and asylum applications are increasing can you say the governments policies over the past 10 years have been successful? We can no longer blame the EU so the responsibility lies firmly at our sovereign governments feet. As an appendium it is also worth noting that the only public servants to get a significant pay rise of 30% over the past 13 years have been MP’s with their basic pay rising from £65k to £83k per year, not to include expenses and other benefits. The rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the tree

@peterclareburt4594

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@@saabsonsan I am not trying to defend this government. I am more, I guess trying to defend "a" government, I.E. The current government of the day and all future governments. We have had some great years since the late 1990s, but the future is getting much more difficult. Immigration is just one massive, increasing issue. I also totally disagree that the EU is future. I sense it has head winds coming, and is without precedent, other than perhaps the USSR. These guys are bolted to the idea that the EU is the solution. I think if the UK can't organise itself outside of the EU it's path back will be a disaster. I have no problem with a Labour government as it is projecting itself right now. However I don't think it has any answers either. But it will screw with the likes of the Guardian and the Independent, if they haven't got a Tory government to rant about. LOL 😆

@johnstevens1022

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@@peterclareburt4594 When we were in the EU, we were at least part of a multilateral regime for spreading the burden of migration and, along with our membership of the UN, for agreeing international collective criteria for evolving future policy towards what is, as you recognise, a large and growing issue. Whilst we were in the EU, we benefited from the Dublin Convention which allowed us to return to France those coming to us across the channel. Had we remained, we benefit from whatever conclusions on re-visiting the various international agreements governing migration the EU is currently considering and from the weight of the EU in advancing that agenda inside the UN. Brexit has diminished us in both respects. You seem not to recognise that progress on this issue must be international or we will find ourselves damaged in other ways by attempts to go it alone. President Macron has said that for us to benefit once more from the Dublin Convention cannot come from a bilateral agreement with France, it must be with the EU. If we withdraw from the ECHR, we will inter alia undermine the GFA in Northern Ireland and the commercial advantages we sought in agreeing the NIP will again be jeopardised. Even bilateral agreements, such as joint policing of the French coast (which was not needed before Brexit because of the Dublin Convention) comes with a hefty direct financial cost as we have just seen. This guy believes the EU is an essential part of any solution (ie we should rejoin the EU) precisely because it offers the possibility of international answers to international problems. For there are no longer any national answers to international problems. and pretending to ourselves that there are will be far more expensive and damaging, both in the short and the long run, than accepting this reality. ,