"Your story sounds really good when YOUR the only one telling it!" - Dr.Phil

@thedarthflagger

4 жыл бұрын

YOU'RE

@zippyzoo9811

4 жыл бұрын

Hannah what would he of said? I didn’t do it. Cool, you got his opinion. His estate speaks for him. The world says it not ok to sleep in a bed with kids and have kids on your lap. The stans need to practice what they preach and give their young relatives to strange men for 30 days. Sign a contract relinquishing your kids to a billionaire. The shit is not normal. It’s not normal for a lower class man, it’s not normal for a high class billionaire. The difference is the lights and the lavish lifestyle is a far more powerful groomer than your average joe and his van and candy. Dude would drop million dollar gifts on his alleged victims and their family’s. Someone gives you a mill, you’re not gunna say no, you’re not gunna snitch, you’ll lie when you’re told and hold secrets as long as the cash flows. Same goes for the millions of fans, pre groomed not to see the things he does as red flags. Oh he never had a childhood, does that excuse it, like really think about it. Does him not having a childhood excuse him from societal norms? Lots of people on this planet didn’t have a childhood, but I don’t see them with lil model boys on their lap or sleeping in bed with them for 30 days. Anyway, the MJ fans who say the Justice System is 100% perfect and always gets the bad guys and never locks up the good guys, they know that shit isn’t true. You know that Jury saw a Pop Icon on that stand and a fair trial went out the window. Any normal Jury, someone knows the person on that stand, they’re out of the court. So tell me how that court doesn’t victimise those boys when that happens? They see what they think is a God and some kids trying to say that’s the Devil, who do you think the Jury will side with? I mean the hidden rooms, the tripwires, the cameras, the erotica, the sleeping arrangements, the fake marriages. Show me another person doing that stuff and I’ll show you someone who deserves to have their life investigated and turned upside down

@brokenbutterfly3178

4 жыл бұрын

@@zippyzoo9811 your assuming things. Be smart and learn to love your fellow human beings. Michael was better human being then the both of us. You or your opinion is not gonna change that.

@katek.4692

3 жыл бұрын

Zippy Zoo First thing I suggest for you is to dig and find the actual truth and validity behind the things that you’re stating “happened”. For example.. Michael never bought the Safechucks a home as a “gift”. The documents regarding that particular situation, are out there and it was never a “gift”. It was a loan and the only reason that the Safechuck’s didn’t need to pay it all back is because they were already behind and struggling with abiding by the requirements of the loan and Michael eventually said fuck it because he realized that he most likely was never going to get that money back and did not want to deal with it. Pretty much everything in that emotionally lubricated, statement piece that they claim to be a “documentary”, is completely fabricated and made up and has video clips that are so chopped down into tiny snippets of the original video’s content in order to erase any evidence other than the narrative they are setting themselves. Just like the loan documents, the original video’s are out there, as well. This crap got debunked and discredited so quickly that the disgraceful excuse of a “director had to hurry and erase at least 45 minutes of what was shown initially, because his “evidence” and his “facts” were and still are the furthest thing from evidence or facts. As far as “grooming” goes and this whole mindset that, an individual who has a stronger connection with their inner child as result of how things were when they were young, having friendships with not just children but the families as a whole, as well as that individual having a strong sense of empathy, compassion, generosity and selflessness for families who are less fortunate and struggling to get by, or children around the world suffering from diseases or dying from cancer and was put in the Guinness Book of World Records for being the artist/celebrity that’s donated the largest amount as a whole to a plethora of different charities, schools, hospitals... is someone with the characteristics of a groomer or that these things inherently make them “wrong” or “abnormal”, is a crock of shit, I’m sorry. None of these families or children went to stay the night at Neverland upon first meeting Michael ffs lol and this whole sentiment that only young boys stayed there and only young boys received gifts from Michael is incredibly obtuse seeing as it takes a few minutes of research to see that it’s blatantly not true at all. I mean, the man showered ALL of the children at the hospitals that he visited, with gifts. Now, as for children sitting on the laps of adults or sleeping in the same room.. the fact that the immediate thought amongst many individuals, is that it’s “not normal” or “sexual” in some way is absurd. Guess what.. someone’s family member who they assume that they know well, can turn out to be a pedo/child abuser but you mean to tell me that when I was a kid, all the times I and most kids who sat on our uncles laps, was inappropriate and not normal? Smh 🤦🏼‍♀️ I don’t know if people like yourself are just unaware of the fact that we as humans can have, not only the capability of gaging a situation correctly by applying their parental intuition, as well as use discernment and practicality.. but they can also keep from feeding the younger generations minds with this idea that you shouldn’t trust a single soul throughout your whole life because they could be a horrible person and the gentleman that we’ve known for month’s on end, who plays water balloon fights with everyone and is incredibly child like, is a pedophile who wants to harm you because “he had you sit on his lap.” Obviously this is a rather extreme way of putting it but I don’t know how else to make it stick that many individuals in society are taking situations and stories of sexual abuse, abuse in all forms and the trauma that usually comes from it, that people like MYSELF have personally dealt with and dealt with many times in their life and going about educating other’s in a very unhealthy and extreme manner. Let me tell you something.. I believe that Michael, without a shadow of a doubt was and still is an incredible soul and I would consider myself a fan, yes. If you think for one second that, that means that I lack cognitive analysis skills or cognitive and critical thinking skills to separate any artist from their work or what I personally feel about their work or themselves, then you’re sadly mistaken my friend. Take it from someone who, like I mentioned, was sexually abused at a younger age, experienced abused in all forms throughout my life, has shared my testimony with hundreds of abuse survivors and have head hundreds of their testimonies. I’ve worked on a personal with many of these individuals on both mine and their healing process and I have a rather profound and extensive knowledge and education on the subjects of abuse and trauma, as well as, the characteristics that linked in different ways... not only that, due to a traumatized self and not knowing how to deal with the suppressed and unsuppressed memories, I developed very damaging coping skills and let’s just say, that I know first-have and after several personal cases within the judicial system and have sat in court watching, again, hundreds of other individuals cases. So, unlike your broad assumption that all Michael’s fans that say he is innocent and even, more so the victim in these cases, than any of those who have made claims...that these fans are all under the impression that the judicial system is “perfect”, well... again, I fall into that category and I can almost guarantee that I know how they are in reality, more so than you do. Just to add a cherry on top of all of this... remember those damaging and unhealthy coping skills I once had? Mastering manipulation and deceit, came hand in hand and despite everything... I didn’t even have to watch more than a few minutes to see that those two dimwits, along with the ways the director set the shots and filmed them and simply, how the two were going about “telling their story” in the way they did, their physical reactions while telling their story, the overly detailed descriptions of the “encounters” the openness they have to discussing it with practically the entire world when you go live television and such while, keeping in mind this is not just one heterosexual make claiming someone of the same sex “abused them” but TWO heterosexual males claiming someone of the same sex “abused them” and this is their interpretation of the most realistic way that, that would go down? Their lying.... all of them have always lied in the end and it’s easy to find and at times will even spell it out for ya lol

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

@@katek.4692 I'm not reading that whole wall of text you wrote, but it's never been debunked. You fans just want to believe that's true. Channel 4, who first commissioned it to Dan Reed never planned on it being 4 hours long. So no editing down for any reason other than to accommodate commercials when Channel 4 first aired it. All four hours were made available a week or so later on Channel 4, and it's always aired in its entirely everywhere else. Believe what you want, but don't spread lies.

the documentairy presented NO EVIDENCE!!

@mcmanpa

5 жыл бұрын

minasz Gee, I hope you don't sit on a jury trial: eye witness testimony is not only evidence, it's amongst the strongest evidence you can get.

@kashiaroundtheworld

3 жыл бұрын

Must watch "Razorfist" Neverland debunked kzread.info/dash/bejne/rI2sktiFltO4ibw.html Square One 1993/2005/Wade kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKyCpsRrgLnJn7A.html Charles Thomson defending the law kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnyqz8uYc9Wegbw.html Weinstein/Oprah connections kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3yolNKcopbNms4.html

@thermonuclearcollider4418

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmanpa I hope YOU don't sit on a jury trial: eye witness testimony is a strong evidence ONLY if it comes from a third party, not if it comes from the accuser. In this documentary, the only "witnesses" are the accusers themselves, who bring up no evidence at all save for their own words. Any judge would reject the case: as a matter of fact, Robson & Safechuck's attempt at suing the Jackson's estate for BILLIONS of dollars in 2012 was thrown out of court for lack of evidence.

@mcmanpa

3 жыл бұрын

thermonuclear collider Yes, I have sat as a jury member on a trial.

@thermonuclearcollider4418

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmanpa and yet you make such stupid comments? Either you never did or you didn't learn anything.

Might as well throw the judicial branch away since people would rather believe the media than a trial .

@Smokeburial

5 жыл бұрын

I mean OJ got off too..

@chelseamanriquez

5 жыл бұрын

Dry Tavern OJ got off because of the tainted evidence and poor procedures taken during the crime and i mean that isn’t necessarily the same case as Michael is it

@kashiaroundtheworld

3 жыл бұрын

Must watch "Razorfist" Neverland debunked kzread.info/dash/bejne/rI2sktiFltO4ibw.html Square One 1993/2005/Wade kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKyCpsRrgLnJn7A.html Charles Thomson defending the law kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnyqz8uYc9Wegbw.html Weinstein/Oprah connections kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3yolNKcopbNms4.html

@hetaljoshi9816

3 жыл бұрын

@@Smokeburial He's in jail.

@torstenheling3830

2 жыл бұрын

I believe these guys

When he compared Jay Z to MJ I spat my beer out laughing. Jackson was waaaaaay on a a different level, MJ was a phenomenon.

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

It's ALL PROPAGANDA. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ao53u7SrYduXo8o.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement kzread.info/dash/bejne/ao53u7SrYduXo8o.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

@craigparham7992

5 жыл бұрын

Moron - he didn't compare -

@coldchills1091

5 жыл бұрын

@@mjmedia09returns maybe you need to return your blind faith in a human like this Whom settled in Court w the chn who described his appendage If you bothered to watch, Wade stated several times that mj had fallen out w him Hope you never have to experience this type of horror, cause w your head in the sand as demonstrated, it won't be 2 hard 🕸️🕷️ GOOD F****** LUCK, you'll need it

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

@@coldchills1091 I know you don't realize this but THE 1993 case that MJ settled a VERY PUBLIC CIVIL LAWSUIT, ALLOWED all participants to TESTIFY IN THE CRIMINAL TRIAL. In fact, I have VIDEO of their attorney ADMITTING THEY HAD SIGNED NOTHING TO PREVEN THEM from appearing in a criminal trial. IN fact, June Chandler appeared in court in the 2005 Criminal Trial. But I know WHY Evan Chandler DID NOT APPEAR. Because he would have to explain DRUGGING Jordy to make the accusations in the first place. Was that in Dan Reed documentary??

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

@@coldchills1091 I know a lot of you are self absorbed in this NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) documentary that Wade and Jimmy have had INVESTORS spend money to make but if you all get time, please explain why Jordy Chandler is BLACK. Okay. I have an idea why but I want your take. lmao encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_NNA2gdFGn2IamwtqeR22pa8tsrafD570ERhj6rjJTVIKnU1a

MJ is innocent. Facts don’t lie , people do .

@talonth3k1d

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@belindalyu3067

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, true! Innocent until proven guilty!

@torstenheling3830

2 жыл бұрын

I think he’s guilty

@Giannis-zm5no

2 жыл бұрын

@@torstenheling3830 Good luck proving that 😂😂

@torstenheling3830

2 жыл бұрын

@@Giannis-zm5no I don’t have to prove anything. I’m just saying I find the statements made by Robson and Safechuck made in the film very convincing, like millions of other people. That’s it.

You can never compare JayZ with MJ. MJ was a god in 80s and 90s. Younger people who never lived through these decades would not understand the extent of his popularity.

@dr.christopherdiaz4473

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I would argue that during the 1980s, MJ was globally just as recognizable as Jesus Christ.

@marciaboland6103

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that type of fandemonium doesn't even exist anymore.

@xxxs8309

5 жыл бұрын

MJ was insanely famous

@JmelBst

5 жыл бұрын

Comparing MJ with JayZ is a joke. An absolute joke. xD

@scottbartram5596

5 жыл бұрын

T London mj is the most famous person on earth still today and was huge in the 80s

Do your research people 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

The court of public opinion. Sad. Re-open the case if necessary, but don't try a man and find him guilty just because of a one-sided story. This is crazy.

@jennifermorris833

5 жыл бұрын

Justin Jay why crazy? Don’t you think victims have a right to air their allegations?

@brigjay123

5 жыл бұрын

@@jennifermorris833 Yes they do. But a man is innocent until proven guilty. These are allegations. It is a slippery slope when a person is condemned in the court of public opinion. This how "witches" got burned to the stake in the olden days in a public frenzy.

Someone I know was one of 3 brothers who were all abused by a priest who wormed himself into the family and groomed the fervent catholic mother first. She okayed her sons' visits with `Father' and was ecstatic that this `man of God' was favouring their family!

@FINNG0DB0LT

5 жыл бұрын

Sarndra Smith I wish more people would see Michael groomed the entire world w

@mig6pie

5 жыл бұрын

Sickening, the graphic description and specially the fact that they were "in love", but the parents, WTF? You teach your children to not allow to be touched by adults, I'm 52 and my mom had that piece of advise when I was a kid, the parents were as responsible as Wacko Jacko

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

Watch my video EXPOSE the Leaving Neverland HOAX. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mW2XrNyIoM_dfps.html

@stellasmithson3836

5 жыл бұрын

@@mjmedia09returns made by child molester fans no doubt.

@stellasmithson3836

5 жыл бұрын

@@mig6pie I can't believe how stupid his fans are.He slept with little boys. He paid victims off. Before the documentary was aired.

My Mother would NEVER have left me alone with a grown ass man outside of the family.

@candyphillips8000

5 жыл бұрын

Kenneth Bernard I understand you. Neither would my mom unless it was someone she knew extremely well. Here we are though talking about Michael Jackson, a man who did not have a normal childhood a man who worked since he was 5 years old performing. A man who was kind and very generous, a man who only wanted to heal the world. Michael would slit his wrist before he ever hurt a child. He never did these things these two liars say in the documentary . He was proven innocent in 2005 trial and vindicated. He always was innocent. The media is running with these liars stories because the media has always very sadly disrespected Michael countless times during his life. During the trial the media painted him guilty before he even had his day in court. Michael was an innocent man always was.

@genetenz

4 жыл бұрын

@@candyphillips8000were you in the rooms with these boys?

@toni9890

4 жыл бұрын

genetenz were you?

@kashiaroundtheworld

3 жыл бұрын

Except if it was MJ. I would have run away just to hang with him 🤣🤣🤣 and you'd be safer with him than any of these twats

@kashiaroundtheworld

3 жыл бұрын

@@genetenz all evidence points to extortion with no proof of abusing families actually caring about protecting children.

8:23 “sacrificed their children.” That pretty much sums it up. Whether the allegations are true or not; that’s exactly what the parents were doing.

@LaciousC

5 жыл бұрын

Why is everybody blaming the parents, while MJ did all that stuff. The parents were groomed as well. What a load of crap.

@TheRealDirtySkillz

5 жыл бұрын

@@LaciousC As a parent if you let any man or grown woman sleep with your younger children your a fucking idiot. That's the thought process.

@MsAmgrace

5 жыл бұрын

that exactly what his defenders are doing now-i don`t want to believe-so,better keep silence about molestation!

@abysmal

5 жыл бұрын

LaciousC What kind of a parent let’s a grown ass man that you barely know, sleep with their young son?? That’s why it’s the parents fault. I’m not excusing Micheal’s behavior, if he actually did it, but that’s completely on the parents for allowing that to happen.

@mollypolly1154

5 жыл бұрын

Weird feeling Safechucks mum knew something going on

MJ FOREVER

@Uroligt

5 жыл бұрын

mj always forever

@donpercent

Жыл бұрын

If he did what he did he's forever in hell.

These parents are to blame too

@jenniferwhite1413

5 жыл бұрын

Massively to blame those two gold digger others

@jenniferwhite1413

5 жыл бұрын

Mothers

@cremetangerine82

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Romero Sadly, the entire family was groomed to trust Michael Jackson, that’s how he was given access to young boys.

@pommiebears

5 жыл бұрын

Jennifer White no...James Safechucks father was completely sucked in too. But, I do blame the parents. That is why we’re parents....so as a man can’t get your child to sleep in his bed!

@pamelaoreilly2777

5 жыл бұрын

NO!!! Michael Jackson is to blame!!!

I never understood why Jay Z would be anyone’s favorite celebrity.

@marieantoinettescake9513

5 жыл бұрын

LOL ....I know right?? 🤢

@SunnieDIY

5 жыл бұрын

Any celebrity why not him. Obviously he has fans and a lot of them. Like he said though as a normal parent you tell them no. So the parents clearly justified it in their heads and didnt want to know.

@marieantoinettescake9513

5 жыл бұрын

@YES WE CAN STFU with you God Damn race baiting!! Nobody mentioned anything about his race. No wonder your profile pic is Obama. He spent 8 yrs race baiting & dividing the country. * Smh 😑

I thought breaking down ment being critical - not just lapping it all up.

i can understand if those men were conflicted and confused as kids but as a mother i cannot understand how their parents be confused about what was happening ? they conveniently accepted the gifts and trips and etc and even now giggling about the memories they deserve no sympathy nor any attention.

You can be an amazing performer, actor, writer, dancer, musician, singer, painter and so on but that doesn’t mean your a good person. What you do and who you are - are two different things.

@mtb-gee851

5 жыл бұрын

I don't be live you can separate the art from the artist, especially when it come to michael. He dedicated his life to art and helping others and was art himself.

@FINNG0DB0LT

5 жыл бұрын

Eileen Pizarro it’s unbelievable people can’t seperate art from action

@leajulie7216

5 жыл бұрын

He gave millions of dollars to charities, visited hospitals, brought terminally ill children to his ranch for a day so they could have fun a last time... found a liver for a 10 yo kid who was about to die and who now has kids himself... I believe he was a good person. But it’s too easy to judge someone based off of 2 dudes making $100 million documentary and who btw happen to be in debt

@FINNG0DB0LT

5 жыл бұрын

Lea Makayla he did a lot of amazing stuff ... he also did a lot of terrible stuff. You don’t get to pay off peadophelia with charity work - might’ve worked for the priests for years but it’s 2019 now that ship has sunk. We will never really understand the financial side of Wade and James but as far as I’m concerned if they are survivors which I truly believe they are, then lord Jesus cut them a big fat cheque they need a holiday after all of the hate they’ve had thrown at them since this aired.

@FINNG0DB0LT

5 жыл бұрын

Lea Makayla im grieving the loss of an icon - but choosing to use that energy to focus on these poor child sexual abuse victims instead of pushing myself into a state of frenzied denial

Follow the money supply. I may be inclined to believe them if they had no interest in his estate.

@Gr4h1m

5 жыл бұрын

Evangelos Evangelou they don’t, at least wade I know for sure is wealthy already. I want to see proof that they are interested in his estate. Because that’s false.

@link2metroid

5 жыл бұрын

You don't know what you're talking about. Wade Robson is in financial difficulty. He tried to sue Michael's Estate several times, they were thrown out and the judge called him a liar. He wrote a book, kept it secret, tried to get it published, nobody was interested. Tried to get a payment from the Estate under seal, they told him to get lost. Later sued for $1.5 billion. He's changed his story so many times. mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/michael-jackson-estate-letter-of-facts-debunking-leaving-neverland/ He owes the Estate $70,000 in legal costs. Educate yourself, instead of believing the trashy media. m.kzread.info/head/PLmirOw7JCi826i_J_xsWhtY7jh2sqIlpX

@pricklypearmedia

5 жыл бұрын

@@link2metroid Exactly!

@Mellie

5 жыл бұрын

@@link2metroid Wrong! Wade tried to sue MJ once and the reason the judge wouldn't hear it is because the statute of limitations ran out, he took to long to sue, he certainly can't now. James never tried to sue nor is he doing so now. Seriously, get your facts straight and stop spreading bullshit.

@jamiehogg8989

5 жыл бұрын

Gr4h1m no he isn’t! You haven’t looked at the other side. Your an idiot. He didn’t do this. To much information that makes them lairs. Why don’t you believe that? Or are you part of this new world where you don’t want to stick up for someone that has bad allegations against them. Your a joke mate and your wrong with that statement. Do your research before you become a follower

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

@everydaycringeeverydaycrin846

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Lord Amen

@75marklee

4 жыл бұрын

Good point

Ppl that get raped..its hard to admit what happened... They hold that pain for years

@leajulie7216

5 жыл бұрын

Samantha Segarra they said they realized they were abused after his death like 2013, when they were already in their 30s/40s, that’s bullshit if they were really abused they’d have known long before that.

@redditsurge

5 жыл бұрын

idk, human psichology is just soooo complex. Some people might forget, try to explain what happened, ignore it, blame themselves, suppress it. They say they realised what happened after they got their own children, and tthe kids started approaching the age when they were abused. So they started having images of their kids being abused, and that made it harder. They started having mental breakdowns too, and I think they had a conversation with themselves, and actually realised what happened. That's also very common in other abuse victims.

@onyxmystique9680

5 жыл бұрын

And rape victims don’t finally admit it when they have a financial crisis and sue for a billion dollars

@tulayamalavenapi4028

5 жыл бұрын

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...

@jessicazimmerman1314

5 жыл бұрын

Rape is not easy to talk about. It's very tough to process. It hurts, especially if it happened at the hands of someone you loved and trusted.

I remember a near death experience I had at 3. Trauma creates strong memories. Its how we evolved.

@jeanniehiebert3169

5 жыл бұрын

I encountered Michael in what the doctors called a "Near death experience." in 2011. I would call it more like I died and left my body but doctors don't listen to these things.

@peterthepersonalstylist

5 жыл бұрын

Wha???

@marylloydzuk

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Diaz I was beaten in an orphanage at age 3, yes I remember it well. Being traumatized and you remember. Don’t ask me my life at five-no trauma then.

@dr.christopherdiaz4473

5 жыл бұрын

@@marylloydzuk Its evolutionary advantageous to store memories that may save your life in the future. When people store the trauma, and then it is never necessary for a future defense, it must be released in some other way. This is why we share so much with our spouses, and why many people need therapy.

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

Wade has CHANGE from "repressed memory" to KNEW ALL ALONG. And you know why he changed? Because he giving statement in a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION when he claims his memory was suppressed. So he changed it to KNEW ALONG. But here's PROOF he's lying bkzread.info/dash/bejne/ao53u7SrYduXo8o.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement kzread.info/dash/bejne/ao53u7SrYduXo8o.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

Now that the court has thrown out these allegations, we can finally see the truth. Wade & James such liars & good actors. Just wanted to get money from MJ. Glad they are getting their just due. Michael would never hurt a child. He always helped children in need. Thank you Michael for being the great humanitarian that you were. 👑🕶🎤🎶🌻

@maaczka

3 жыл бұрын

they're not even good actors. you could tell immediately they were lying.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

@@maaczka the mothers especially. I mean I couldn’t help but laugh at their stage mother dramatic overacting.

@maaczka

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChokeslamToHell, yeah, me too.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

@@maaczka Esp since she claimed she jumped for joy in 2009 when James Safechuck says he didn’t tell anyone about the alleged abuse until 2013…Conveniently, that time in 2013 happened to be six days after he and his family business got sued for 850k. Bull.

@NawiTheCore

Жыл бұрын

The court didn't decide on the truthfulness of their allegations. They simply decided Jackson's estate weren't responsible for looking after the kids and protecting them.

IF this actually happened, i have zero empathy for the parents in this situation. makes no sense.

@CraigsOverijse

5 жыл бұрын

A D did you not listen the parents were groomed just as the children were

@cjb32

5 жыл бұрын

A.D. i agree.

@eruditediva

5 жыл бұрын

@@CraigsOverijse if that is what you want to claim as a fact, sure. we don't know any of this they state to even be fact. folks are just living through their words and feeling it has to be a fact. regardless, i stand behind what i said. given what i've seen and heard, i'm not inclined to be empathetic to parents in this s%*t. feel free to give them enough empathy for the both of us.

@eruditediva

5 жыл бұрын

@@arianaraquel1958 they say...umkay. got it. they say.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

I have none for them regardless. I firmly believe these accusations are false, based on the evidence, and that these children and families are doing it for fame and fortune, which has been passed down to them from these women. You can see it in the way they were acting on the film, like when Momma Safechuck said she “jumped for joy” when Jackson died in 2009, even though James Safechuck says he didn’t tell anyone of the alleged abuse until 2013. And she “jumped out of bed,” even though MJ died at 3PM in her time zone. Awful woman.

I'm shocked I cant bot believe The bastarda pulled him offline the radio?Why? A man who has worked all his live to make history in music does not deserve this treatment This happens when you give too much love He just wanted to be loved His only mistake in life was the Neverland Nothing will change my mind about it I will always love him❤

@elzach0

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing would change your mind about him? well, its idiots like you that somehow dodge natural selection

@elycurly24

5 жыл бұрын

Funny how you guys are making the assumption that he is guilty even though he went to trial and he was found innocent. If you find that the law did not do justice means that you have a flaw system. Just because people don't share your opinion does not mean that you are correct. At the end of the day we will never know the truth, and MJ will never rest in peace

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

Dude, chill, He WAS a Business product. Not an artist really.

So why don't they sue for 1 dollar if it's not about money. Hmmmm

@pricklypearmedia

5 жыл бұрын

@@fizzlerfreeborn5020 really? The guy who is responsible for MJ death was sued for a dollar.

@portaadonai

5 жыл бұрын

Are you serious? If someone you love got raped by the cops, could I demand that you only sue the cops for $1 or else you are only in it for the money?

@ML-ih9ge

5 жыл бұрын

Then don't say it's not about money. Coming out when you need money and the person is dead 10years already. By all means go seek therapy. Not publicity and get paid for interviews. MJ not even here to defend. They are liars and they making it difficult for real victims to come out. The stories keep on changing. That is my problem. This is a money making effort.

@pricklypearmedia

5 жыл бұрын

@@portaadonai yes I am serious, it's about being believed not cashing out.

@ML-ih9ge

5 жыл бұрын

@@portaadonai I would sue the hell out of him but I would make sure he is alive if I do it. Otherwise what's the point. My goal would be to punish him so that he doesn't do it to someone else. That is normally why victims come out. This what's happening here is on another level. Do your research. Please I erge you. This is meant for @evangelos evangelou

Let's do a poll to see how many child sex abuse victims feel like this film has helped them... I'll wait..

What was the point of the trial if we can call doctors to determine guilt?

As a survivor, thank you for having someone on who actually understands abuse and the effect is has!

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ao53u7SrYduXo8o.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement kzread.info/dash/bejne/ao53u7SrYduXo8o.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

@trudi211

5 жыл бұрын

Fleurs Sv i agree, as another survivor it's frustrating when people who have no idea what they are talking about saying it doesn't look true. The psychiatrist knows what he's talking about.

@coldchills1091

5 жыл бұрын

@@mjmedia09returns GET A LIFE T. R. O. L. L. 👁️🏃‍♂️🧟‍♂️☠️🕸️🕷️

@mjmedia09returns

5 жыл бұрын

@@trudi211 Back in 2004 they used a "psychiatrist" to dignify the LIES told by the Arvizo's. IT MEANS NOTHING even you don't in the details of THEIR STORY. I CAN PROVE IT WAS LIES.

@ellefox1132

5 жыл бұрын

As a survivor? Compared to what? 3.2 million other people?....

They are appealing their case in court after it was thrown out. People lie all the time especially when there’s $1 billion on the line. The only way these men can win their $1.62 billion court appeal is to prove that they did not understand while under the age of 18 that what occurred was sexual abuse. If their recollection happens during therapy with a psychologist this allow the Statue of limitation to continue up to age 40. This will help their chances in court. They must maintain that they did not understand that it was sexual abuse while they were minors. The statue of limitations in the state of California will allow the victim to sue if he or she at the time under the age of 18 did not understand that it was child sexual abuse. If the victim is 21 years old or older at the time he or she reported the crime, there must be “clear and convincing” independent evidence presented to show that the victim’s allegations are true. Independent evidence means that there must be some other evidence rather than the victim’s allegations. For example, the victim may be required to show that he or she sought treatment for this alleged incident from a therapist or reported the incident to a family member or friend. The police will also expect an explanation of why the victim waited so long to report the crime. This additional requirement reduces the likelihood of false accusations. However, false allegations of child molestation are very common.

@chengfusaechao7243

4 жыл бұрын

@Horseman 52 & when they do go to court..i Can't wait for Brandi Jackson2testify against Wade Robson..that they DATED 8years, timelines Don't make sense,Wade Had said..MJ didn't let Wade date girls,& we all Know NOW..wade lied..& His lies are now being DEBUNKED by all the TIMELINES....that's been Inconsistent storytelling By wade & james..these 2punks will lose again for the 3rd time around..NO way in hell they will ever WIN$$$$$$1.6B$$$$$$$ LMFAO..but i find it so Ridiculous,that any judge Allowed these FRAUDS back into the COURT. WTF!!?????!!!!!!??

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

There isn't and never was any $1.62 billion dollar lawsuit. Look at their court filings yourself. Do your research.

I'm glad they had the psychologist on.

@LaciousC

5 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, MJ Army will always find something to bitch about.

@marketlider2811

5 жыл бұрын

He has a piece of paper so must be true! there's no logic LOL. You need Evidence not a degree

@LaciousC

5 жыл бұрын

@@marketlider2811 Good luck proving child abuse you piece of trash. You are the reason people don't dare to come out. Let go of your imaginary friend.

@futojanos

5 жыл бұрын

Luis Maputo ya but he said dumb things. I know as a victim soo Im not satisfied at all. They sound like liers who wast tough what to say. Especially Wade

@LaciousC

5 жыл бұрын

@@futojanos You sound like a wack job.

Why was it when Michael Jackson bought the Beatles catalog is when these accusations start to come out months later?

@elzach0

5 жыл бұрын

Edgelord

@japhnagold

5 жыл бұрын

half of sony catalogue.

@ManubibiWalsh

5 жыл бұрын

Why was it that Michael Jackson pretended he didn't know Jordie Chandler in the 1996 interrogation when literally everybody saw Jordie bouncing on his lap at the World Music Awards in 1993?

@claudialinda4328

5 жыл бұрын

@@ManubibiWalsh Jordie confessed it all that his daddy told him to lie against Michael and for your information Chandler committed suicide after micheal was proven not guilty. Hello look for the facts not not a small piece of Information the media brings up and you just believe it all

@ManubibiWalsh

5 жыл бұрын

@@claudialinda4328 None of that is true. Like, none of that actually ever happened. Jordie actually talked to the FBI when the Gavin Arvizo case was opened and maintainted that Michael abused him.

When we are young we have less ability to cope but as we get older it's easier to tune out the abuse. It's not that hard to understand..... Not a sexual abuse survivor but an abuse survivor and abuse is abuse. That's why there are similar responses and negative coping mechanisms that are the result despite the different kinds of abuse. The parents didn't want to know I fully agree. They had an idea that's why one of their mothers had the director skip parts because to say ok he was abused and so let it happened is hard enough to process but to hear the nitty gritty details will put that image in her head forever. It's harder to move past when you know that detail.

When you are getting molested your senses are very keen. It is after that is foggy ! I can remember all the penetration, breathing, smell, etc. when I was molested. It is after that you don't completely understand and the confusion sets in.

@because0011

5 жыл бұрын

Sogo Smile yes so true when my uncle molested me. I remember the way he smelled. And I was about in my late 30’s. And my husband must of used a new cologne or underarm deodorant. And I was feeling down that day. And he came up to me and kissed me. And right away I started to cry. And I told him he needed to get rid of the smell. And he felt so bad he threw away whatever he had on.

@mjkrbjcw

5 жыл бұрын

God bless you , I hope you’ve found some peace in your adult years , it’s comments like this that encourage children to come forward & expose these men instead of the negative comments I read calling them liars which only aids the predators

@FINNG0DB0LT

5 жыл бұрын

Sogo Smile it makes me sad his die hard fans are more keen to defend him then help sexual abuse survivors. To me this whole saga has opened up a crucial societal conversation - maybe the people defending this are abusers themselves though and they don’t want to face there own truth. Oprah said 1 in 6 Americans have been sexually abused. Doesn’t that mean 1 in 6 Americans are sexual abusers ?! Just so sad

@Richard-ju5vo

5 жыл бұрын

Check this video of Aaron Carter saying MJ was in his bed at 5am in Neverland. Now this seems to be a secret recording. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ2Cu5SqobTTiM4.html This confirms it for me

@peterthepersonalstylist

5 жыл бұрын

@@because0011 this is so sad!!!

I wasn't physically abused but I was mentally abused from eight until I was twelve. I am almost twenty now and I cannot remember every single detail, I can remember some of it and it shocks people of how much I remember but the amount of detail they gave is insane even if its still fresh in mind.

@kashiaroundtheworld

2 жыл бұрын

I was asked several times by my brother. I do not remember the dates although I could figure it out to a close accuracy. No victim needs to remember every single detail. With these particular accusations, Wade's subpoenaed emails show him admitting to his mother in 2014 that he doesn't recall anything sexual ever happening to him just before coming out with the allegations. No wonder he refused to hand over his emails! Also the stories told in Leaving Neverland were disproved within a week. This has to count for something. Claiming to be molested in Neverland when his family went to Grand Canyon but logs prove Wade went to Grand canyon too. Claiming the abuse happened hundreds of times when logs show he visited Neverland 4 times. Why would Wade's mother dance on his grave in 2009 if Wade only one about the abuse in 2014? Also the paparazzi have ironically contradicted many elements of the proven false accusations because they photographed Jackson constantly. It's ironic that hounding paparazzi are actually the ones defending Jackson now but it's because they have evidence of his whereabouts. Jackson was proven to be in NY at times when he supposedly molested James in Neverland. James and Wade lied about not being before coming out with their individual stories when in 2014, they meet with lawyers. I could go on with further disproven claims... These facts should matter, don't you think?

How can you not believe them? A 30 year old man should not sleep in the same bed with little boys! Let alone ask a mother to leave their child for a year..

@Enskyed

5 жыл бұрын

Mj didn't sleep in the same bed, don't know what you're talking about.

@lylarosewild

5 жыл бұрын

Lilly exactly. It’s such common sense. People are blind. Vile Jackson.

@56jklove

4 жыл бұрын

maybe because the other evidence says otherwise and people are blinded by fame too

If this documentary tells anything that is certain, it is that the director of this documentary knows how to influence human senses to steer someone's judgement in a certain direction. I am not a MJ fan and I only started to look at MJ more closely after watching this document, but I think this documentary is already put together in such a way that portraying MJ as a predator (such as only showing the similarities of the experiences with MJ of the two men without showing the dissimalirities etc.) and people forget that MJ was actually under scrutiny by authorities in the last ten years of his life. How come they didn't find anything? And how come the financial aspects (in whatever form, i.e. cash or other benefits) that might have motivated these men were omitted? If someone is to blame at all, the parents who heard about the allegations of the first molestation case should have triggered these parents to decide to keep the other boys who claimed to be molested as well after the period of the first case away from MJ.

@goldiph6675

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4tmzKWJf8yWXZc.html

@chuukwu

5 жыл бұрын

Robson and Chucks are bad actors. Very easy to read their faces. Even Wades wife was caught lying. One day she was abused next day she wasnt. Now they want 1 billion dollars??? Everything is very obvious. And this psychologist has answers to all questions. Not credible at all. I feel sorry for real victims of abuse because Robson and Chucks are diminishing real victims credibility

@foxylee

5 жыл бұрын

@@chuukwu I think you should save your concern for the "real victims", when you add to the cultural conversation that calls victims who come forward liars. Young victims of sexual abuse are listening in, and what they may very well be learning is that if they come forward they will not be believed and their motives will be questioned. I know I would be scared if I was a victim of sexual abuse, and I saw the public so defensive of a man who has had multiple accusations against him, and had a habit of sleeping in the same bed as young boys every night. Congratulations! You are a real champion for victims of sexual abuse.

@carolpainter4305

5 жыл бұрын

Your obviously full of s***. You could never act emotions or feelings unless you have felt them yourself. Michael Jackson was a Predator who perfected the skill of deception

@stephentrotter1653

4 жыл бұрын

Carol painter ur full of shit ever heard of actors and actresses proof and facts

Look at how parents treated priest, like Gods. The majority of the children abuse by those priests did not come out much much later in their adult life.

@mamamarianovits9029

5 жыл бұрын

Johanne Lavergne Excellent point you make here, one I can agree with based on statistics and evidence. The abused children are "groomed" by these people who are held up as being beyond mere humans... as being somehow "godlike" or as one to be idolized. Sadly, when one holds another person in such high regard, these same people then fail to view their idols as being the imperfect creations we all are, failing to see they err. This is true for all, we all err and we all fall short... be they entertainers or be they self professed "men of God".

@silvergirl2847

5 жыл бұрын

yep ikepsaying it,he only gotaway with because of who he was.same asthe priests .

At 4:10 -Whats up with the nuge from the girl (far left) to the dude speaking?

@DiscoDreamcast

5 жыл бұрын

great observation. she nudged him when he mentioned Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett has been in the news recently for staging a hate crime assault by paying the police under the table. Essentially it was a hoax.

10:07 _"if you feel like there is a chance that your child's safety is being compromised"_ The problem is that many of us worship celebrity and for many parents, there is absolutely NO CHANCE that my child's safety will be compromised if I leave my child with Beyonce. Remember that MJ was much more adored and worshipped than Beyonce.

I watched the Leaving Neverland documentary and the Oprah follow up show on HBO. I believe the two men and their narratives of sexual molestation. I hope they can heal and forgive themselves/others. I felt the documentary did an amazing job of shedding light on grooming children for sexual contact with adults. I felt the two men (when children) were deeply in love with MJ, and that love/infatuation was returned by MJ. Afterwards, I went on KZread and watched MJ on his Bad Tour (circa 1987) and was blown away by MJ's talent/creativity/showmanship. During the 1980s and 1990s, MJ was a living deity, probably the last of the truly great stars. Prince, David Bowie and Madonna come close to MJ, but no one shined brighter than MJ. Many of us were complicit in just thinking he was weird about wanting to be around children. Although there were accusations about his sexual abuse of children back then, we did not condemn MJ. We just chose to look the other way, and I think we still do to this day. I'm currently struggling with how I regard MJ who I believe was a pedophile (and view his sexual life as tragic), because the art he left us is so great, so special, that I would feel it would be a tragedy to destroy his music, his concert videos.

@qfollowtheplan7294

5 жыл бұрын

Half of your comment is spot on. Get your FACTS straight about Michael, he was INNOCENT!!! Have you looked up the FACTS about these two guys???? do your homework :( It was days to find all the facts over the internet and when I had finished I was in shock....so sad...for Michael

Do your research people

@itze2216

5 жыл бұрын

Read "Vindicating Micheal Jackson" ,by Helena for truth and facts.

@mrbookish6701

5 жыл бұрын

@@zubair-xj5mn if you did your research you would have some sources or evidence to discuss?

@jamie25288

5 жыл бұрын

Proof kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKRspcmdgq_UdLQ.html

@jamie25288

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/naSTuqNyqcbIoc4.html

@MoejiiOsmanTV

5 жыл бұрын

He's been acquitted in court 2 times. That's fact

That was good to watch great points about where was the parents in all this seriously!

@tulayamalavenapi4028

5 жыл бұрын

Parents turned out to be the enemy as well as the accusers. I've been played with, & my parents didn't do Jack s**t. I told them immediately and couldn't stomach looking at the face of my "player"... So these people involved with this sicko fraudumentary are just creepy and greedy for m O n e y. 💸💷💶💷💶💸💰💰💰💵💵💲💲💲 "Anythin for m O n e y...". M J

@mairedaly4548

5 жыл бұрын

Being groomed, being played. Look at the comments in this thread.... Michael groomed millions of people.

@dvish5263

4 жыл бұрын

Somewhere near, planning how to spend the money

@dvish5263

4 жыл бұрын

@@mairedaly4548 what are you talking about?

@mairedaly4548

4 жыл бұрын

@@dvish5263 He not only groomed the children, he groomed their parents to trust him with their children, and then he groomed the public with his role as an ambassador for... www.michaeljacksonslegacy.org/index.php/his-humanitarian-work www.michaeljackson.com/news/mj-trivia-michael-jackson-named-point-light-ambassador/ www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-09-17-vw-654-story.html

When you have a traumatic experience as a kid, you will replay it over and over in your mind and try and understand why it happened, that's why you remember everything in small details. Those memories will haunt you for the rest of your life, and no amount of therapy can fix that.

@dvish5263

4 жыл бұрын

But $1.62 bln probably can do the right thing :)

@louisech1963

3 жыл бұрын

I have be abused and I would never ask to use that place for my marriage like one of these men did.

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

True, which is why when their timelines of alleged abuse are off by 3-7 years, we know it’s a lie.

@denorissy4607

2 жыл бұрын

@@dvish5263 sarcasm 😂😂😂

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

@@dvish5263 Except there isn't and never has been any billion dollar lawsuit. Do your research.

Circumstantial evidence can be like a jigsaw, sometimes each piece can be meaningless on its own , but if you put all the pieces together it presents a clear picture of a persons guilt . What with that presented in front of us with Jacksons unhealthy attraction to very young boys it’s unbelievable that hardcore fans can’t even at least entertain the concept or possibility of guilt !

@markgeeter8728

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's needed to assume. The man was investigated for 10yrs by the FBI and law enforcement, enough said. You think these 2 guys as kids kept this secret and could lie to the law? Stop feeling and start thinking; what would most people say or do for 1 billion? They've had 10yrs to perfect their stories and lies.

@BullyBoxer

5 жыл бұрын

Mark Geeter you obviously haven’t done your research or listen to the majority of psychiatrist that have spoken on the differences in behaviour between males and females when it comes to being abused as children . The data shows that young boys that are abused tend to want to hide it altogether and protect their abusers till their abusers are of no threat anymore, The data is pretty much clear on this . The behaviour of the men that were sexually abused by Jackson as small children is pretty much typical.

@KarlKingSon

5 жыл бұрын

That’s what they want you to believe. Why else make a film about abuse, if the so called “victims don’t display victimized stories”. But if you check into wade Robinson’s history you will see there’s much more going on here

@alanaronald244

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZWIl5aMaM3FY7g.html Body language analysis.

@BullyBoxer

5 жыл бұрын

Karl KingSon as a Jackson fan and someone that went to watch him live in the 1990s on the dangerous tour , I watched this documentary hoping I would see two people on view to the world that were going to be obvious by acting badly to push a story etc I was extremely disappointed, anyone that tells me these two people were acting are just simply dogmatic, because if they were they could’ve turned Daniel Day Lewis out on his best day with those performances. The one guy has such pain in his eyes you just can’t do that or pull that type of emotional trauma unless it’s real .

So much sadness in James eyes? lol how about the time when Oprah asked him about the ring and you could easily see he was about to burst into laughter! with that stupid smile ... it was even ridiculous to him!!! Wow people clearly don't know body language

@maaczka

3 жыл бұрын

ppl are totally blind to the truth.

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

It's you who don't know body language. He slightly smiled out of embarrassment for feeling he was so stupid when he was a child because he'd believed that whole marriage snowjob MJ did on him. If you can't tell the difference between someone about to burst into laughter and an embarrassed "What an idiot I must have been" slight smile, you've got a hell of a lot to learn about even the basics of body language.

Nobody questioned their parents in the 80’s and 90’s because people weren’t so cynical back then.

"if something traumatic like that happens you do remember specific details" but according to the accusers they didn't see it as traumatic at the time they saw it as a normal thing?

@kmgreves

5 жыл бұрын

nope they saw it as special .. like what that pedophile was .. and still is to alot of people who think he is just divine .. but he is actually a vile criminal , and a junkie

People, just because you experienced abuse does not mean that Michael Jackson is guilty of this. It angers me what people are doing to this guy even in death. One thing that we all need to remember is that people will do anything for money. The fact that these guys waited so long to say anything. I just have to wonder why did they feel the need to go public? And then you have the fact that they sued first and lost.

@danaleasure2059

5 жыл бұрын

Wade didn’t get the MJ circus c. Job. He was pissed and broke. So was other guy his family lost all there money in business

@danaleasure2059

5 жыл бұрын

He broke too.

As a person who was molested by a family member at 8 yrs old I have a difficult time believing both men remembering details. I’ve never been able to do so despite being nearly 60 yrs old. Their explanation of the so called abuse is questionable at best. Ive personally come to the conclusion they are lying & it’s about money AND fame.

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

I was also molested by a family member, but I wasn't groomed and I doubt you were either. It's a very different situation when the child molester love bombs you, convinces you they love you and you love them, and that child molester was your idol and world-famous. They want to be famous for being molested?! You should know better than that. In all their court filings they've left any award of money completely up to a judge or jury, and that's IF they win. Hell, that's IF they'd ever have their day in court, which is unlikely because all they can do is bring a civil case against MJ's businesses. They know their chances of winning or getting into court are slim. So there's no motive of either fame or money. The irony is it was Michael Jackson who was obsessed with attaining fame and money.

I had tragic experience when I was 6 and I remember every DETAIL from that time

If this happened to me at that age I would not be able to tell the truth. I would be too afraid to tell anyone, even reporters and the courts, even under oath. I would be terrified to speak about it. It would take me years to tell someone what happened. Especially if it happened with a famous person. With the lawyers there, all the reporters in my face, people pushing for answers. I would crawl into a shell and say nothing happened.

@mollypolly1154

5 жыл бұрын

Amanda H exactly

@ChokeslamToHell

2 жыл бұрын

Understand and agree with all that, but it does not explain why the stories of these now men contain so many blatant falsehoods and ignores the massive financial motivation, which was the first play of each.

I cannot believe these guys are having a conversation about this based on feelings rather than evidence. 'I felt that he was...; How can anyone know from watching someone talk into a camera and that then being edited whether that person is telling the truth or not? Why have they not done some journalistic investigation on the subject?

@victoriacrow9022

5 жыл бұрын

annabelnicholls I'd love to see these two go on the Steve Wilco show and take a lie detector test...I bet they wouldn't show up

@victoriacrow9022

5 жыл бұрын

annabelnicholls ....just give them a lie detection test...case solved

@annabelnicholls

5 жыл бұрын

@@13lochie I actually don't disagree with you. It is incredibly hard to work out over time. I just feel this could have been more evenly based. Anyway, there it is :-)

@ML-ih9ge

5 жыл бұрын

Can't believe these educated bunch are so stupid. Lol. They love hearing their own voices.

@gokul6582

5 жыл бұрын

@@13lochie i can understand that evidence is hard to come by on a crime that happened 30 yrs ago but the least they could do is keep their stories straight. Their stories have holes larger than the ones in ozone layer, imagine if mj was alive and this case was taken to court,the defense would have a field day with these guys

So what's the purpose of a testimony or crossexamining if based on the circumstances you can lie

They are giving every reason to believe theses men. However MJ spent decades trying to prove he not guilty.

@ryanmolinar6965

5 жыл бұрын

have you watched the documentary?

@kathias578

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Molinar yes i have , it’s complete bullshit

@ryanmolinar6965

5 жыл бұрын

what if it's not? what if they're telling the truth this time huh?

@elycurly24

5 жыл бұрын

What if they are not telling the truth? How can MJ defend himself now he is dead. He was not found guilty at the end of the day they use him alive , they are using him in death

@misskatzlife5892

5 жыл бұрын

Ely D Exactly 🤷🏽‍♀️

If a person's testimony is ALL that matters...then why the hell is Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court Justice. ..???? I believed Dr. Christine Ford's testimony. ...!! where was all this energy then???

@dw6418

5 жыл бұрын

MADKIDD623BHN are you serious? There are letters he wrote to the kids. Faxes. Tons of witnesses that he slept alone in bed with young boys. He even admits he talked at least one boy by saying if you love me you will sleep in my bed. Now let’s compare that to Kavanaugh. Ummm I don’t remember exactly where or when. The friend that was supposedly there with me says she has no idea what I’m talking about. There is no evidence that I had ever even met the guy. But yeah you should still believe me. The two cases are not even close to be the same thing.

@kristinebautz1859

5 жыл бұрын

Ok I'm going to break this down as simply as possible. YOU NEED PROOF. CONCRETE PROOF. This is why rape trials are hard to convict. Unless there are pictures, DNA, witnesses(who dont see more than 2 humans in bed together in a non sexual way), video evidence...we are going on a he said she said trial. We cant accuse and put someone in jail because it sounds convincing. Otherwise our jail cells would be packed. Christine Ford says she was at a party one night where kavanaugh raped her yet cant remember where, when and who else was there. These two accusers of Michael bring this up after he has passed away and have a $1.6 billion dollar appeal going on in court. This documentary could be a way to sway opinions. They have omitted a lot and several moments of the documentary have already been debunked. I wished people dont lie about this stuff but it does happen. We cant just believe everything were told otherwise jussie smollett would be still bragging how brave and heroic he is against maga white supremacists.

@kristinebautz1859

5 жыл бұрын

@Nalle puh omg, moments like this I really question humanity. Ok, please enlighten me. What proof do you have that I am blind to?

@ManubibiWalsh

5 жыл бұрын

The energy was there, the people believing them were there. Everyone with 2 brain cells believed her. Everyone with a shred of empathy believed her and fought for her and supported her. It just so happens that Kavanaugh is a Republican sociopath who is directly supported by Trump. More on point, do you really, honestly think that a grown ass adult "sleeping" 1 on 1 with children on the regular is not even remotely suspicious? Even a little bit? A tiny teeny bit only? Really?

@kristinebautz1859

5 жыл бұрын

@@ManubibiWalsh 2 brain cells? Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that actually. Considering that any Ford supporters couldn't grasp that we have due process or there were holes in her story, but blindly scream "believe the victim!" Otherwise you are labelled a "rapist sympathizer". I wonder if this happened to someone you loved or you, being accused, and because the story was horrific enough everyone wanted to hang you without hearing your voice, would you be so quick to say "believe the victim!"? I cant believe people like you live in our world. Can I believe it that a grown adult can sleep in a bed without doing anything to a child? Yes. Do I think it's ok? No. I have my personal reasons. But Michael is innocent in this case.

it pisses me off hearing these people talk

@CraigsOverijse

5 жыл бұрын

Devi Ji why because maybe it might be true?

@makonen6832

5 жыл бұрын

@@CraigsOverijse might be but you could say that about everyone, also there's more evidence to say he isn't than he is

I was 5 when my mom cheated on my dad and I was the one who found out I can’t tell you every single detail where when what we had for dinner what she was wearing the time of day some times that’s the down side of trama is the memories

I don't care who u are if u sleep in the same bed as young children and u are not the father this is really weird and anyone with common sense would raise a red flag. Nobody is denying that btw. If his name was Michael (insert last name), this video would not have a single dislike because of how WTF the idea of sleeping in same bed as young children for years is.

@marypope797

5 жыл бұрын

Max & Sujy React but he is dead what is the point for dragging all this, he won the case bfr....

@MaxSujyReact

5 жыл бұрын

@@marypope797 Being dead doesn't matter, if the victim was dead that would be different in practice, but here the victims are the one suffering. Anyone with $ can win cases like that, O.J Simpson and R. Kelly did.

@AA-ek5kz

5 жыл бұрын

Sleeping in the same bed is not a CRIME, MICHAEL'S ROOM WAS NOT you one little bed the room was the size of a house. Go and read before you show your ignorance.

@bigbad123321

5 жыл бұрын

That's the problem with this society. Too many people celebrity worship and put these people up on a pedistals and treat them like God's. Like they can do no wrong. The evidence against him and the amount of red flags is monumental. It's fascinating to me how people can still be in denial.

@je187u

5 жыл бұрын

There are numerous videos on Yt debunking the allegations . He was innocent

These allegations aren't new. Nor are these men new to eachother. They've shared the same law firm for 6 years now, and met back in 2014.

Why is nobody charging the parents for child abuse if this is true! Jokers!

Wade remembered everything so vividly, rooms and details and all, because he asked his mom about it in emails. So many. He´s telling her memories as his own, what it looked like there and all. Please do some research. Read the court documents of the lawsuit. It´s all public. His mom even described to him how they were the ones who nagged MJ for attention, while in the documentary he lies and says MJ was the one who wanted it. Please do some tiny bit of research, this is embarrassing

@Enskyed

5 жыл бұрын

Why's that? And is that supposed to mean anything at all?

@isabelfahlen7519

5 жыл бұрын

@@Enskyed I didn't think any of those little credibility issues meant anything either and I used to come up with excuses in their favor, because I couldn't believe someone could sit there and lie about such a serious matter. But the more I dig into it the more obvious it becomes they're lying. I believed them, now I feel offended. I just watched that podcast interview with Brandi Jackson, Wade's gf from 12 to 21.

@Enskyed

5 жыл бұрын

@@isabelfahlen7519 I mean, people lie about this kind of stuff on a daily basis for their own benefits.

i remember vividly something that happened to me when i was 7.

Don't know any 7 year olds that remember all that vivid stuff, and not know what sexual abuse is. My grandbaby 4 and she know you suppose to shut the bathroom door while she use the bathroon, so I struggle with young men not being in touch with their experience until they got grown. They grant this case any money they should open up all the cases where victims are confused about the outcome.

@alissaowens5947

5 жыл бұрын

He is explaining it if you listen.

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

Yes dude, your memory in abuse/trauma is /stays very vivid.

Are you Effin' kidding me, no! You remember sexual trauma in a super mansion when the "King of Pop" is the perpetrator! Not unheard of.

@verostargiirl

5 жыл бұрын

Agree.

This what I feel some of it was kind of mmmmm. But at this same time I’m a survivor and I never said anything. I think I’m having a hard time with this. And I love MJ and I’m just not sure.

@JMysticStar7

5 жыл бұрын

Don't be afraid to speak out. Even if MJ was innocent, that shouldn't take away from your voice.

That clinical psychologist better stop using this case to show '' example'' of a sexual predator. Jackson was far far far away from that definition.

jay z and MJ? lmao mj was on a whole another level i even think he's the most popular guy in the world

so many parallels with abducted in plain sight (Netflix doc), with the relationship building with the whole family first.

Traumatic memories are seared into a survivor's mind.

Get Wade Robson and the other guy on a lie detector live on a show let's see what the results are

@raijin7707

5 жыл бұрын

Omg YES! I would love to see the turn out, those snakes may be able to fake a damn cry because they are actors but I doubt they can fake their heart rate on the world stage xD this would be lovely!

@EA-br1pz

5 жыл бұрын

If Wade Robson sees a lie detector he'll run like a horse.

@tombrown7513

4 жыл бұрын

E A Even better would be to put him on TV face to face with Brandi Jackson and get him to tell her that MJ did these things to him. He would crap himself and then we would see the truth.

So, when the psychiatrist is explaining how a child can remember very specific details of a traumatic event in their lives, it makes sense....But, Wade has said it was only 2013 (I think??) when he said he remembered?? Surely if a memory is so repressed, you couldn’t remember specific details?

@Catbooks

Жыл бұрын

Wade has never said he repressed any memories of his abuse. What he's said is until he was in therapy after his second nervous breakdown, he didn't realise that the things MJ did to him were abuse. He thought MJ loved him, and he loved MJ. This is the way "successful" child molesters groom their victims so they'll cooperate and not tell anyone.

What EVIDENCE.????????? The mothers now show shock and concern because they would benefit from the money.the sadness in his eyes are how bad he feels about lying!

@jillmorgan2507

5 жыл бұрын

They are trying to look sad CONMEN

@jillmorgan2507

5 жыл бұрын

James is a bad actor wade has had acting agents classes and jobs he's a little better but James that sad face is so fake

@dianemccray718

5 жыл бұрын

OH, MY GOODNESS! IT IS A SAD DAY IN AMERICA TO SEE SO MANY GULLIBLE PEOPLE!!!! DOES PROOF MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!??? SO MUCH EVIDENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED!!! WHEN THE TRUTH COMES OUT ABOUT THEIR LIES I HOPE ALL OF THESE SO CALLED EXPERTS AND GULLIBLE PEOPLE CHOKE ON CROW AGAIN, LIKE THEY DID YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY AT HIS TRIAL! AND WHEN HIS DAUGHTER PARIS SAID AT HIS FUNERAL "DADDY IS THE BEST FATHER ANYONE COULD EVER IMAGINE!" BY THE WAY SEVERAL OF HIS "NIECES" SPEAK VERY HIGHLY OF HIM AS WELL. SO THAT SHOWS HE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE AFFECTS AND EXPERIENCES WITH FEMALE CHILDREN AS WELL. CONTRARY TO THIS ALWAYS BEING WITH BOYS CRAP! THAT IS WHY SOME OF US WHO ARE LOOKING THROUGH A LENS OF EVIDENCE, JUSTICE AND FACTS CAN SEE THE TRUTH, AND SOME OTHER PEOPLES LENS'S ARE GOSSIP, LIES, HEARSAY, HATE, EMOTIONALISM, JEALOUSY, BEING JUDGEMENTAL AND RACISM WHICH IS CAUSING SOME OF YOU TO BE BLIND AND STAYING BLIND!

@jdub8419

5 жыл бұрын

How about this was a one sided documentary.

@Susie470

5 жыл бұрын

As I start to see more interviews, especially those from Europe ( England), the interviewers are so logical, and are equal to both sides. I loved that on Good Morning Britain, the director was questioned, and no matter what was asked of him, he never really answered their questions. He kept saying, indirectly “you must believe them”. Since when does someone tell another person what, how to think??? Incredible. When Piers Morgan asked about “the money they are seeking” and director says “ no they are not”, then in the same breath, says “what will they do with the money when they get it!!! “ Um hello, it’s only about money!!! I think the tide is slowly, oh so slowly turning on these pathetic people!!!

Hey doc, what school did u graduate from again? I didn't get that. Those boys were lying & a psychologist couldn't see that? No work @ the clinic,i guess.

@Angela-gc3kr

Жыл бұрын

Middle aged men. Not boys. Both are Pathological liars.

Please don’t forget Michael ask has 3 children, when ppl tell these terrible stories to the whole world, how Michael’s kids feeling? It hurts! These lies have to be ended.

Also peoples... As a parent, we can all be fair and say that you already have left your child in the hands of other peopels and never even thought twice about it because you knew those peoples and had no reason to doubt them. These mothers were not groomed, they knew they could trust Michael. It was not even Michael who asked these kids to come to him. They kept coming back on their own. They liked being there.

Watching that documentary I had a strong sense that one of those moms knew. Why else would she go listen at the door. And when she was talking about the signs... She knew. And I had this overwhelming feeling that these moms sacrificed their son's innocence for fame and attention. Smh... They were star struck simply didn't care 😥

@kashiaroundtheworld

2 жыл бұрын

They were gold digging showbiz mums... There's no evidence that what these 2 men are saying is true but there has been mountains of evidence disproving much of what they have said. Also Wade admitted in subpoenaed emails that in 2014 just before going public that he had no recollection of any sexual abuse. Oops!

@bambilackner

2 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable! bc mom says that now you believe her, go listen to interviews she’s giving before, she was questioned with her kids about Michael and them being at neverland and they spoke so damn good about Michael, she said nothing about that before. So plz this is just disgusting, everything they said has been proven false, timelines don’t match, things weren’t even built when they say the abuse took place in, Michael was on tour when they said shit happened, Wade dated Michael’s niece, Michael hooked them up, so Michael wasn’t keeping Wade from girls, every photo of them there’s another in the same place with their family there, “when they said they were alone with Michael” the sI suggest you do research before you jump to conclusions. Why did the director only have a one sided story, they mention names and other shit but never tried to interview those people, the director took many different takes almost 18 months apart,why? When things were brought up about all these inconsistencies the director changed the dates, time, places, ages of the liars. I mean the shit is a joke mj is big money, when their book deal wouldn’t be touched this is what they resorted to. Funny that Oprah” friends of the Jackson’s” literally stabbed them in the back to save her own ass, remember the media and people like us started questioning her relationship to Weinstein, and Epstein and the minute she did this interview people stopped talking about her, she even got her friend Gail king to interview these guys. This was a hit piece. Go watch other videos where people show how the media tried to crucify Michael, their ratings hit the roof when they were talking about this, even back in 2005, they brought up everything the prosecutor said in the court room, but the minute the defense was up no media coverage at all, even though they knew the mother and children were being caught in lie after lie, they tried to do the same shit to jay leno( blackmail) and Chris tucker. The kid from the 90s admitted after Michaels death that it was a lie and his parents made him lie, he felt so guilty he contacted the Jackson’s to apologize. The father committed suicide because of guilt, he was caught on tape talking about how he was going to ruin Michael, and how he was gonna win big, michael said in an interview he didn’t blame chandler, he knew it was the parents.

@annemclean2548

Жыл бұрын

You believe the ham acting of a morher who finds talking about her sons suppised abuse funny.!!!! Who listens by a door that can't be locked from the inside, (fire regulations)

If the one guy really wants to be “real” he should just come out and say ‘I don’t believe Michael was guilty because he is black’ Just like he believed Jussie I’d have a lot more respect if he was honest about it

@KadieBlue

5 жыл бұрын

Let's not pretend there aren't people who believe Wade and James just because they're white.

@cheechalker8430

5 жыл бұрын

KadieBlue that is a good point and I am sure you are correct In either case, it’s wrong. It’s wrong to judge guilt or innocence based on anything other than facts. It seems like most of Michael’s victims were white - go figure. There was the one kid (the one with cancer who was in the Bashir video) who was biracial I think. But Michael certainly seemed to have a preference for young, white, pre-pubescent, hairless boys

@KadieBlue

5 жыл бұрын

@@cheechalker8430 Only two boys accused him when he was alive. Jordan Chandler was half white and black/Polynesian, or something like that. Gavin Arvizo was Mestiza/Mexican.

@cheechalker8430

5 жыл бұрын

KadieBlue Yes I believe that is correct - but there have been whispers about Michael’s behavior for years prior to his death. Look up old interviews with LaToya (when she was fighting with her family). Even she came out and said Michael was involved with children It’s very sad all around

@5talentgirl

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheechalker8430 Do you think most of MJ's fans are Black? An international star loved around the world? How many fans believe MJ is guilty? He's not. His accusers are money-grabbing liars and should be punished.

Bullshit at age 7 -11 you cant remember everything

In the 80’ & 90’s child molestation didn’t have the Public awareness as it does today. The parents these days are more informed. I’m not saying they used their best judgment but it’s not fair to judge what they did back then based on today’s information.

That “psychologist” was paid off to make this series look not as absurd as it clearly is. A psychologist could easily argue the falsehood of this case as well but he doesn’t.

@AlberteTDK

5 жыл бұрын

The documentary is not absurd, you are for believing a grown ass man who loved sharing a bed with small little boys.

@anonoymus7053

5 жыл бұрын

@@AlberteTDK Well he was an easy target I know that much. Maybe that one fact was the catalyst for the rumors which were essentially the foundation for this case. "Mommy I slept in the same bed with the millionaire hermit Michael Jackson" this is golden ticket material for deadbeats degenerates who want to make a quick buck. Trust me when rich vulnerable people drain the swamp of their social circle they will find some monsters. If he was lying about everything he could have lied about the bed part too but he didn't. Either way if he really had an uncontrollable urge to touch kids he could have done it with unknown orphans or children off the radar, instead of doing it with spoiled mommy's boys who he took photo ops with in little outfits in highly publicized events. He could have stashed child porn, he could have done so many other things to prove himself as a guilty man, but the dots don't connect.

I wish Oprah hadn't done the interview. I would have preferred someone else who is not as popular in the public eye. I was not so convinced when I watched the interview. However, now that I've heard reviews from various sources about the disgusting details. I am in shock, but not surprised. Michael's behavior was extremely odd.

@sav3nad

5 жыл бұрын

you are a coward!

The more I research on Michael the more I like him! Brilliant and rich genius always have bloodsuckers surrounding them

@annake5893

5 жыл бұрын

So true!

@Mar-cb3ke

5 жыл бұрын

@Varmando Varuso have you been in his bedroom and watched him forcing kids?...no... Doctors can check physical proves of abuse their bodies ..and never did

How are these people so blind to the real truth? No wonder this video has so many dislikes.

Oddly enough, the first thought that popped into my head was "Cosmetic Eyelid Surgery". The second was "Cosmetic Dental Surgery". Not sure why.

The boy mum should be arrested hevshould sue his mom

Hope a specialist challenges for a interview

@ticklegolems6793

5 жыл бұрын

I doubt it they would lose all professional credibility. Four hours of interviews with the victims and their families sequencing the whole grooming process, coming to terms with the abuse and how this played out in their interpersonal relationships. Very hard to fabricate this level of complexity..

@dianemccray718

5 жыл бұрын

@@ticklegolems6793 OF COURSE YOU CAN WHEN YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO REHEARSE IT!

@ticklegolems6793

5 жыл бұрын

@@dianemccray718 Have you watched it? if that is fabricated they dont need to sue the estate they just need to get a hollywood agent and start auditioning for some big roles..

@dianemccray718

5 жыл бұрын

@@ticklegolems6793 Someone needs to suggest that to them because MJ's nieces and nephews say they knew both of them from when they all were young and they spent a lot of time at NEVERLAND as well. MJ's niece states that MJ introduced them when they were a older and She dated Robson for 7 years and that he is lying. Anyway when the other people get a chance to tell their side of things and Robson and Safechuck's timeline is busted, We all will see who lied!

They speak from their hearts! Listen to La Toya interview from the 90’s too if you want proof! Amazing and sad documentary! I hope the guys find happiness and their lives!

The "doc" did not bring to light about the conflicting feeling... he just said that the predator is successful making them feel loved

Everyone check out the interview dan reed did with the french tv. He was a debate with 5 other people that completely challenged him with facts. I have to say the french journalist actually did their research and dug deeped into wade and michael jackson's court cases. PLease check it out.

I am not entirely buying the abuse allegation story. It's full of plotholes so to speak. If the victims saw michael jackson sexual abuse as love and affection, does that mean the boys thought their parents didnt love them because they didn't did the same? Wouldn't a boy of 10 ask her mother why she not touch him sexually if she loves her child? Michael has supposedly said they would goto jail if they told anybody. But if a child would goto jail for loving someone, wouldn't that make the child wonder feeling scared and strange about it, and then they will definitely tell someone about it. Am not buying the fact they realize after years and years when they have children of their own, then suddenly come to realize it was wrong, that doesn't convince me at all. What more sick is that they are searching public approval of this, and dragging their whole family into all of this drama, their children will always be remembered that their dads were molested by Michael Jackson. I mean which sane to the mind dad will go public like this ruining their childs future?

That was a good analisys to comprehen the whole abuse issues on the two poor guys.

@wikedwhich1

5 жыл бұрын

Ugh give me a break!!...do just 5 minutes research

Yes...life time fan....also a victim of childhood sexual abuse myself...unfortunately knew it was true when the Martin Bashir doc aired...Michael was obviously in love with that boy...and my suspicions have now been confirmed...these grown men are very hurt and it doesn't make sense for a grown, heterosexual man to make up stories of being raped by a man as a child....they r very strong and brave for coming forward...its no ones fault other then Michael...who's to say they wouldn't have been equally seduced?..He was a demi-god at that time and the world believed his reasoning, having not even spoken to him in person about it...I'm sure the spell was 10 fold when live in the flesh...I really hope everyone involved can forgive themselves and heal

@PYT-cu6ny

5 жыл бұрын

You idiot Go and do your research. Find a documentary called "untold story of neverland" if you watch it and still think MJ is guilty then let me know

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Schroeder, thanks for this comment.

Jackson had a guilty conscience before he died that's why he was an insomniac

@melroseanne3501

5 жыл бұрын

Chris spearline.... I found that offensive I happen to suffer with insomnia now since 2012 from ptsd ... he was an insomniac from stress depression and pain!!! Simple!!!!!

@rihannahcariaga1215

5 жыл бұрын

I have insomia does that mean i am guilty? Lol...just doesnt make sense at all....why no evidence can point if he ever did so

@rihannahcariaga1215

5 жыл бұрын

Im looking forward for the trial....Mjs estate vs. The whole cast of leaving neverland....they really used Mjs video there

@jdub8419

5 жыл бұрын

How the hell would you know that. That's so stupid.

@desiganreddy1670

5 жыл бұрын

Who the hell are you?

The documentary presented no evidence just emotional manipulation

@Angela-gc3kr

Жыл бұрын

It is not a documentary. It is a one sided propaganda fiction film - designed to exploit the weak minded into believeing it's true.

Watch how his eyes moved. You can tell a person telling the truth or merely not telling the truth.

Why did the "Master of Deception" wanted to get married at the Neverland in 2005? He and his mother called Jackson nanny asking for her permission for he and Amanda to have their wedding at the Neverland. Charges need to be brought against these two perjurers now!

Why now?

@smilelikeUmeanit90

5 жыл бұрын

because its the time.

Very sad, Now I understand why Michael Jackson gave a boy called Jordan 20,000,000 Dollars to keep quite.

@liletsky5102

5 жыл бұрын

Niall Hogan mj's lawyers advised him to just settle with Jordan chandler's parents and just move on because he had a huge career ahead of him. If mj was really guilty of molesting Jordan chandler as claimed by the father then why would jordan's father had agreed with the 20 million dollar settlement? Months after mj's death, Jordan's father committed suicide.

@dianemccray718

5 жыл бұрын

@@liletsky5102 PLUS WHO TAKES MONEY IF YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN MOLESTED! IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY PEOPLE!

@frankfit5225

5 жыл бұрын

MJ did not personally give anybody 20000000.... it was his insurance company who insisted that should be done and paid

Yes, i cover this on My Channel but in more DETAIL AND WITH SCREEN SHOTS AND NEWSPAPER SCREEN SHOTS.

So glad that in the last year since this aired these two guys have been caught lying over and over. They have been totally discredited and will be publicly shamed some day so people will learn that lying about molestation is an evil just like the abuse.