Charles was too good for Lori. RIP Charles, justice is being served.

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but this isn't the trial where justice will, hopefully, be served for Charles.

@milagiganticurchod6138

Жыл бұрын

@@loveforeignaccents AND TAMMY AND JJ AND HIS SISSY

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

@@milagiganticurchod6138 I think you should be responding/replying to the OP. And "sissy's" name Is Tylee, dear.

@bobbicatt

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t that the truth

@olgatrilogymartin3143

Жыл бұрын

Pity he met this monster of a woman

So glad Charles changed the beneficiary of his life insurance to his sister. Charles seems like he was an amazing man. RIP.

@rebeccahinner1572

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... you definitely meant you are glad Charles changed the beneficiary to his sister Kay (Woodcock)

@theriddlerUSA

Жыл бұрын

@@tatonkatatonka Thanks 👍

@GrowingwithAnastasia

Жыл бұрын

I really love that final FU - it’s one gratifying thing out of all of this

@belloftheball4518

Жыл бұрын

I really have to wonder if he did actually change it or if Kay did. Even if it was Kay she did the right thing. Thank god she worked for Charles at the end and was able to gain knowledge and access of Charles accounts. It was Kay’s investigating and logging on to Charles’s email that was how they got the address in Idaho when Lori took off after Charles died. I bet Charles was so confused every time he saw a picture of creepy grave diggin’ Chad or heard his monotone creepy voice. I wish Charles was alive to see these two monsters get exposed and receive justice but then that would mean he would be alive when his son was murdered so I suppose it’s better this way. It’s ironic that two people so obsessed with their salvations will ultimately spend eternity in hell. Charles was so desperate for answers. It’s heart wrenching.

@momwithaplan1287

Жыл бұрын

@@belloftheball4518 No it was totally Charles. He’s the one who did it. He knew Lori was crazy months before and it was getting worse by the day. He also knew that she called him “Ned” and “Garrett”. Also Charles told Kay all about it. And if anything happens to him, she is to give his 2 elder sons each 250,000. And JJ 500,000. Which she did and planned to for JJ until his death. So so sad. If only the Az police had listened to him. All 4 would have still been alive today.

Knowing Charles went to law enforcement numerous times for help to ask for an intervention and assessment of her and they didn't take him seriously is so cruelly heartbreaking. Its funny how she suddenly became incompetent for trial but when she was picked up police she was able to flirt her way out of a mental assessment, when Charles was still alive, and an arrest at the scene of the murder. Disgusting.

@aquaseahorselove3939

Жыл бұрын

Her manipulation techniques are superbly tuned. It takes years of practice to develop these skills. She definitely didn't just wake up one day and become this evil.

@gwenstone9685

Жыл бұрын

@@aquaseahorselove3939 she’s not evil. Selfish, egotistical monster yes but evil implies an outside force making her do it. Well at least to most “Christians” anyway

@aquaseahorselove3939

Жыл бұрын

@@gwenstone9685 Being evil is being morally reprehensible and wicked. Even if she were influenced by an outside force other than herself (lets say Chad) that doesn't take away her free choice, she still has to choose to act on it. As for calling her selfish and egotistical, you are being too kind to her since all of us have an ego and we're all somewhat prone to selfishness. Monster does seem to be a description we both agree on.

@nycatlady2314

Жыл бұрын

Why did that happen? Was it because their church runs many communities in that state and “own” law enforcement and other government agencies? Before the trial the church sent a letter to all the members reminding them not to help with the investigation and to consult the church’s lawyers before talking to the investigators/police. They should lose their tax exempt status for interfering with a governmental process.

@vanadians3819

Жыл бұрын

@@gwenstone9685 I hate that she says she did this evil because God told her to. She is going to find out what happens when you cast dispersions on God and blame him for your own evil. I doubt he is going to be smiling at her.

Charles was a man of INTEGRITY. It’s a terrible shame that his family and the world lost such a good man.

@beckybennett9661

Жыл бұрын

He was so much more of a man than Chad will ever be!

@leeannwitt4968

Жыл бұрын

Justice for Charles Tammy jj and Tylee also loris brother was killed, murdered 10p%justoce for all the murdered

@michaelburns9748

Жыл бұрын

I think so too!, she managed to marry several really nice men, who provided her with lovely homes and family.

@southernsass2937

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelburns9748 Unfortunately

@JaneSmith0709

Жыл бұрын

@@leeannwitt4968 Don't forget Lori's second husband.

The murder of the children is heinous enough….. but holy hell my heart aches for Charles Vallow. I hope he gets Justice. He was an incredible man.

@diamondeyes3612

Жыл бұрын

And Tammy Daybell

@glenf6639

Жыл бұрын

@@diamondeyes3612 Yes. Tammy as well. I’m glad she is included in this case with JJ and Tylee. Charles is a different case and i often feel is an afterthought. He appears to be the only one who did everything he could to try and call attention to this and stop it. That doesn’t mean any other victim is to blame. Charles is literally on video saying he thought Lori was going to kill him and all his communications show how so much of his time was spent trying to get ppl to see what was happening. Did Tammy ever see or respond to Charles messages? I haven’t seen every minute of this to verify if she had.

@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724

Жыл бұрын

@@glenf6639They said the email wasn’t even shown as “read” and that Tammy did not respond to Charles. Seems as though, she either read and deleted it right away or didn’t even read the email(s) at all. This is what they said-

@keile513

Жыл бұрын

Agree 💯 Charles was a really good person. He moved her into and paid the bills on that beautiful home that he was murdered in.😢 He was stellar to the end, God Bless him.

@basiahellwich3505

Жыл бұрын

@@glenf6639 I think there might be some legal reasons here with his case, I'm not sure what that is though, maybe because it was in another county? Yes, he seems like a nice guy, one she took total advantage of, there seems to be a lot of financial implications here, I'm sure she used him and saw him for his healthy financial situation. He was not a stupid man either, he discovered something fishy was going on and of course Lori was indignant, lying and defensive, like it was his fault, then used her gullible, brainwashed brother to kill him, I have a feeling she also used her daughter to orchestrate the hit on Alex's head with the bat, something like that happened, in my opinion at least. Lori is a monstrous woman, pure sociopath, surprised she fell for someone like Chad considering he had no money, oh, actually he gained some money from Tammy's Insurance Policy I think, something like $400,000+ . I can only imagine how their i.e. Chad and Lori's relationship would have unfolded, when she had enough of him, the money ran out, who would have killed who?

She is something else. This poor man, this poor poor man who tried to do everything he could to save his family and save his children. He knew this was coming and she made him look like the crazy one. She is sick and she is the dark one! Her and Chad are nothing but dark and disturbing monsters!

@alannashea6344

Жыл бұрын

@Leena Wexler I am very aware of that, Tylees father is also deceased but he (Charles) was married to her mother and that makes them a family.

@alannashea6344

Жыл бұрын

@Leena Wexler I married with two kids that are not my husbands and we all still call my children his children. You don’t always have to be so specific with stepchildren and step siblings, to me family is family.

@chrisper5559

Жыл бұрын

They were married nearly 15 years as well, even Colby was close to Charles too, so he raised them all!

@bbe3034

Жыл бұрын

And Charles was making $20,000 per month. He loved Tylee and JJ and worked very hard to provide a wonderful life for them. It’s so hard to comprehend how so many died due to Lori and Chad, and Alex’ horrible decisions! And yes, Charles begged law enforcement to help. I really wonder if Lori caused the death of her brother, Alex. I suspect Melonie Gibbs may not be telling the whole truth.

@moyadapne968

Жыл бұрын

@@bbe3034 Alex killed Charles, probably Tylee and JJ, and possibly Tammy. He had done his bit so now he's redundant. Lori's defense will be to blame him. Evil evil.

I can't help punching the air with joy, to hear that Charles wrote those messages. He might be gone, but because of what he said back in 2019, the truth has been revealed. May Charles rest in peace.

@lovewins7412

Жыл бұрын

Me too!! These evil demons have been locked up and I truly believe that they always will!

@Dani-ICU-RN

Жыл бұрын

Right!!?? I wonder if Tammy read the messages in time...I hope they are resting on a fluffy cloud together, watching SATAN HERSELF nail her own coffin shut. Such terrible loss of life..makes me wonder if indeed the ex nephew in law, hiss grampa, etc..were all victims also. And, if that shooter"missed" a few times on purpose...

@Dani-ICU-RN

Жыл бұрын

Right!!?😊

@gpcheng87

Жыл бұрын

He mentions the truth needing to be out, needing to reveal her for what she is... he got the last word. 👏

@marshapieroni6677

Жыл бұрын

​@@YAYA-bv7poidk. I thought Casey Anthony might get a little homegrown justice but she's apparently living the good life

It broke my heart hearing the Detective reading the emails from Charles to lori. Then Charles gets killed. Lori isn't mentally ill, she is just an evil person.

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

A true spider. She sucks the life out of all caught or orbiting her web.

@hazelhadley-britt6396

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the police laughing at him when he needed their assistance? Due to her abuse. Remember society has been indoctrinated that a man cannot be abused by a woman.

@sharonhamilton3439

Жыл бұрын

She is definitely mentally ill and she wanted Chad daybell to be real and believe she was a goddess and had reasons to get rid of everyone in her life that were in the way of her life with him and their delusional religious beliefs that Chad created

@lovewins7412

Жыл бұрын

That she is!!

@ropesofpearls9758

Жыл бұрын

Charles got killed, then Tammy got killed, then the children got killed, then the hit man Alex got killed! Wow! What evil monsters are these? This woman is a serial killer, and Chad is a devil incarnate!

What a beautiful reading voice Detective Duncan has. It's relaxed and strong at the same time. He should be reading audio books instead of the lies and deceit of two murderers.

@Dee-ur1hk

Жыл бұрын

Very easy to listen to!

@CindyM372

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more Mac.

@y2ksurvivor

Жыл бұрын

He enunciates quite nicely and I enjoy his smooth tone. I appreciate how he doesn't put much of his own emphasis on the emails whilst reading them aloud. His manner is definitely a refreshing thing these days.

@akasha924

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! Even "goddess lover" sounded totally different... 😳😂 I am glad you made this comment - You never know who just needs to hear someone suggest a different career path. 🙏

@deeceee5347

Жыл бұрын

I agree. He has a sexy voice. Hes kind of Nice lookimg. Detective 🕵️‍♀️

I'm so so happy she didn't get Charles's life insurance.

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

Clever man. He knew she was up to no good.

I can’t believe how calm and decent Charles was when trying to communicate with those Devils. I would’ve called them everything under the son. He seems like such a decent man. I wish I could’ve had a man like that. God rest and bless his soul.

@nelle9118

Жыл бұрын

I would have totally taken Charles off of her hands. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

@GrowingwithAnastasia

Жыл бұрын

@@nelle9118 I’m married but I mean, I agree as much as I could. He just has tremendous husband/father vibes.

@gregd6706

Жыл бұрын

"son"......seriously?

@susanna8612

Жыл бұрын

He is just normal person. Any real parent would try to save their childdren and relationship, if they mattered. Nothing incredible in it but of course if u compare him to narcissistic sociopaths... he is in another league. Unfortunately real, good people who tries to believe best in people and situations are often victim of the narcissists and psychopaths.

@AllThingsUnderTheSun

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking too. What a deep down kind person he was. I’m even more irate now.

Anyone scared that these people exist?

@diamondeyes3612

Жыл бұрын

They do despite the denial

@kelliesue8089

Жыл бұрын

And I'm sure there is more

@y2ksurvivor

Жыл бұрын

Definitely, as most of those with a psychopathic sadistic streak aren't caught and are operating among us, often undetected.

@GrowingwithAnastasia

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I just typed in another comment. They’re blending in with general society but are completely unlike us.

@marilyndavie8581

Жыл бұрын

@@kelliesue8089 I'm positive she killed her sister too

The Chandler PD have a lot to answer for regarding Charles's fears & his death. What more could he have possibly done to try to stop this horror? He did everything humanly possible to wave the red flags, sound the alarm, get help & it fell on deaf ears. Police twisted his worry to make him look like the troublemaker. It's so desperately sad & his pain is so evident in those texts. I think he knew he was walking into something if not that day then another day. My heart breaks for him.

@cherychabot6750

Жыл бұрын

So sad he was not taken seriously because it could have saved a lot of lives. If he was my relative I would talk to lawyer about this.

@FLo-jc7ig

Жыл бұрын

​@@cherychabot6750 I don't get what you're saying .."get a lawyer"?? LV is going down so why would relative's need a "lawyer"??? 🤔

@kindness12345

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more!! Some type of change is needed in our laws and law enforcement agencies.

@badger313

Жыл бұрын

@@FLo-jc7ig I think they mean to get representation to possibly sue the police department for negligence or something because their lack of taking Charles seriously not only led to his murder but all the other attempts & successful murders that took place because his fears were not taken more seriously

@FLo-jc7ig

Жыл бұрын

@@badger313 Okay, that makes more sense when referring to sue the cops! And they should be held accountable to a "large" degree! Ty for straightening that point out to me!!! ✔️✔️✔️

Charles and the kids would be alive if someone listened to him.

@marymary20

Жыл бұрын

And Lori's family, except for Adam, shunned him and defended Lori.

@doodlebob2023

Жыл бұрын

@@marymary20 loris family is kinda insane for not listening to him yelling from the rooftops that shes gone mental and nobody is safe around her. why would you ignore those kind of emails?

Loved the way the detective read the correspondence. He really brought them to life and provided perspective. I could picture everything that was occurring.

@laurenmay2098

Жыл бұрын

That’s right, it is emotional to listening his reading of a man pleading for some answers and some respect. It is sad.

@keithcitizen4855

Жыл бұрын

The cold of Chad comes through in the content " bullets in chest"

@hannahreed2451

Жыл бұрын

They definitely picked the right person for the job. The way he read it made it super easy to follow along not just for us but the jury as well. He did an awesome job!

@missmelody6185

Жыл бұрын

It was like a good acting performance! When texts are read in court, it usually comes acrosd in a very monotone way. Det. Duncan did an excellent job.

@Dani-ICU-RN

Жыл бұрын

Yep.. sounds like a .. mmm Movie...

She deserves the death penalty!

@roxannedreaden7607

Жыл бұрын

Death!

@pattykake7195

Жыл бұрын

No …let her suffer for the rest of her life in a very nasty prison….👍🏽

@Peace696

Жыл бұрын

I say let her live with all the picture's in her cell so she want ever forget what she did

@mariadavis8745

Жыл бұрын

Yes she does deserve the death penalty but the judge took it off the table.

@shantidavid6062

Жыл бұрын

She'll be in prison for the rest of her life and spend her life figuring out who is dark and who is light. I wonder if she'll tell the dark ones their numbers. 😅😜 But you never know - a manipulator like her might start a cult in prison.

Wow! Chad, Lori and Alex were even more cold blooded than I thought!! Been following this case since early 2020 and have learned a lot but, dang, these texts show how truly ruthless the evil trio is! I'll feel better after their 1st degree convictions!

@JimiBegbaaji

Жыл бұрын

It's difficult to comprehend that a death sentence is off the table. What kind of kangaroo legal system gives a ruthless killer this much leeway?

@mayamohamed9847

Жыл бұрын

She might walk free, all this dumped on Alex who's dead and Chad is protecting her.

@jlopez327

Жыл бұрын

💯!

@AllThingsUnderTheSun

Жыл бұрын

Yep. These blow the lid off everything in my opinion. She’s not mentally ill or delusional in any way shape or form. She’s just a bad person, period.

@stephaniesamra7960

Жыл бұрын

They are the trinity but w/o the spirituality that they assumed they had.

The day charles was cornered and shot twice i Lori and Alex house is the day ALEX AND LORI should have been jailed!

@lindylee1139

Жыл бұрын

Yes! And maybe the kids would still be alive.

@cynthiawilson5066

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you

@ginadantus7619

Жыл бұрын

If they get arrested that day, JJ and Tylee would have been alive today .

@julieimbelloni7115

Жыл бұрын

Those cops blew that too. There’s not doing so well these days

@alynsak

Жыл бұрын

Yep. It’s crazy how no one thought that was suspicious at all.

I wonder how it makes the Arizona PD feel, knowing how many life's could be saved if only they could see the clear picture back then 🥺.

@Cindy.m.R

Жыл бұрын

If only they hadn't been consumed with Lori's eyelashes fluttering and the BS coming from her, unbelievable and disgraceful

@Jag...

Жыл бұрын

​@@Cindy.m.RYes, "believe all women" comes to mind. Well, I guess hindsight is 20/20

@MsSugar1209

Жыл бұрын

Every cop involved in Gilbert & Chandler, including that complete idiot who interviewed Lori the day CV was murdered, should have been put on leave & investigated. The worst!!

@S_8-

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what came to my mind listening to that testimony . Arizona PD failed them all so bad !! I don't get how Alex and Lori walked free for so long after Charles death !

@penniewyatt9391

Жыл бұрын

They had such a clear picture, but didn’t see, they fought protocol to let her walk, they could have easily seen the bullet patterns and arrested Alex.

I can feel Charles's pain listening to this. I was in his shoes 18yrs ago. Learning of my husband of 13yrs cheating when he left his email open. You want to hurt the other person and figure out what you did wrong. In the end it's not you it's them. The day he left was the scariest (I had a 2and 5yr old and he had insisted we move far away from my family and I had no friends) but also the best day of my life. There was a very hard year but 18yrs later my children are grown happy adults who I am proud to have raised myself without a penny or a phone call from their father. Too bad Charles didn't take JJ and go. To bad the police failed him so badly. May she rot in hell

@nycatlady2314

Жыл бұрын

Glad you made it out of an abusive situation. Time gives you a better perspective when you realize that your perceived “lowest point” was actually him doing you a favor.

@spirit13the1st6

Жыл бұрын

WOW!! SHE IS A SICK PUPPY. CHANDLER POLICE HAS 4 DEATHS ON THEIR HANDS , THATS REAL. TRULY INCOMPETENT.

@stacey7720

Жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry. I feel your pain. My ex and I had been married 12 years and together almost 18. We had grown up together so I really thought I could trust him but literally everything he had been saying was a lie. He didn’t even have the decency to tell me on our own. We were in the car with my 7 & 10 year old. He then left cause I couldn’t live with the lies anymore. He went over 1 1/2 years without seeing or talking to the children. Then when he got a gf he wanted to impress he wanted to come pick them up. They begged me not to send them cause the way he was to them in the past. He rarely helps out with them and the only time he has is when a friend pays the bill when he’s about to be in contempt. He still lies about everything. My kids are a little older now but I’m still trying to survive. I’m sorry to hear I’m not alone but it does help hearing about others that have made it. Well done my dear. Keep staying strong!

@mykidsaresupercute

Жыл бұрын

Been there. Charles did take JJ and moved to Texas. Lori decided she wanted him dead for the money, so she moved out there as well, right before she killed him. I don't think there was anywhere safe he could have gone.

@kimberlymarino7344

Жыл бұрын

@@nycatlady2314 very true!

The other crime in all of this is how Lori chose pastey, flabby , goofy Chad over Charles whose handsome af!

@patbrown2699

Жыл бұрын

Chad looks like a Whalrus

@MsSugar1209

Жыл бұрын

@@patbrown2699 A big, stupid walrus.

@johannawigg6921

Жыл бұрын

She had bled Charles soul dry and now it was Chads turn

@river8760

Жыл бұрын

@@patbrown2699 lol he does look like a walrus -no offence to walruses though. 😂

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

@@johannawigg6921 Chad I'd no angel, he's a demon

Thank you Det Duncan. Thank you Idaho prosecutors, doing an amazing job.

@AMYV3

Жыл бұрын

Idk about that. Being the detective that made the decisions to do nothing about the murder of Charles until Jan remember his murder was in June, when he was contacted by another police department looking for information about the missing children. Doing nothing caused the deaths of two innocent children and a kind loving wife. Within days of Charles shooting Adam, lori and Alex’s brother called Det Duncan to tell him all he knew about the odd death and he gave them the evidence and a guilty conviction right on a platter but still nothing. Idk about you but if I were Larry and Kay and all the other family members who’s lives have been utterly damaged because of his inactions. Thank you’s Wouldn’t be the first on my list of things to say to him. Now the prosecution 👏👏👏👏👏 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤔😔

@VioletJoy

Жыл бұрын

​@Amy v 1. What do you mean by "... Charles shooting Adam...?" I'm confused by that whole sentence. 2. Describe what you mean by "doing nothing".

@lorriesantos340

Жыл бұрын

@@VioletJoy I think what she means is, when Charles was shot.. ADAM COX- Alex & Lori Cox's brother ... Called the Detective about this sus " self defense " killing of Charles..........And then all these other deaths took place because nothing was done to stop these nuts

@RAINCLEARY

Жыл бұрын

@@VioletJoy ​ omg lol he means after the shooting of charles their(lori & alex) brother named adam called the detective ​to give info on the strange death

@VioletJoy

Жыл бұрын

@Rain I don't know how you sorted that out. Lol. Is this more accurate? "After Charles' shooting, Adam (Lori and Alex's brother) called Detective Duncan..."

Bless grieving family and friends of the victims and may Charles, Tammy, Tylee, and JJ gain justice and rest in peace. 🙏🕊

@goonerbean4680

Жыл бұрын

Please keep your religion to yourself. Not appropriate

@Blackcatandjam

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget that Joe Ryan was also murdered. 5 people it’s shocking, how they had to die.

@annfisher3316

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackcatandjamThanks, l did forget and will add him and family to payers.

@cristi5298

Жыл бұрын

@@goonerbean4680 Totally appropriate. In this free country, people are certainly allowed to express faith. My goodness, we certainly have plenty who are doing just the opposite. Wanting others "blessed" does not mean religion, only to those who are anti-religion.

@goonerbean4680

Жыл бұрын

@@cristi5298 but practicing these so outdated beliefs really does pull you away from modern day reality. And they can be so dangerous to the human mind, especially when that’s mixed with mental health issues, which we all somewhat suffer. I would LOVE a world without all this religious nonsense and the thousands of slightly different “sky daddy” stories.

This case hits close to home. My dad remarried (parents were divorced for many many years). My mom became unrecogniseable she accused my dad and his new wife of being evil people (we are religious). Then once she totally separated me and my sibling from my dad she began accusing us of being evil and sleeping with one another (I know disgusting right). I’m 2020 she accused both me and my bro of trying to kill her. ( my brother developed a severe mental illness and had a mental breakdown). The worst thing is, is that my dad as also totally cut me and my bro off for believing her to begin with. It’s very sad. It’s like I’ve been an orphan for the last several years. Some parents are evil, but we can’t take her to court for her ‘beliefs’. The only silver lining is that she at least didn’t kill us like Lori did. Prayers for me and my sibling would be appreciated.

@69marrr

Жыл бұрын

I hope you’re okay ❤

@EffSharp

Жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, Jasmine, your comment made me so sad. I hope you are getting help and support. Hang in there. Sending my love.

@narellegoddard7672

Жыл бұрын

I believe you can overcome your childhood and the trauma it has created. Don't dwell on your past and brave the future before you. I pray for you my friend 🙏

@mickeytwoshoes2822

Жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

@marlenemorrow8942

Жыл бұрын

😢

So glad he changed his life Insurance. She wasn't expecting that

Lori and Chad = GUILTY AS HELL!

@pattykake7195

Жыл бұрын

Let’s hope they go there….😈😈

@Francis-xl2gu

Ай бұрын

They are NOW !!!

I frankly am surprised Chad Dumbell found ANY woman that would be interested.

This is all just so disturbing, so much information, so many lies , so many secrets, so much covered up, im sick to my stomach i could not have been in the courtroom i have to step away from this often .

@mcsmith732

Жыл бұрын

Very true. It's hard to have to hear so many lies, so much B.S. and crazy belief systems, and hear from so many evasive "witnesses". The detectives and their calm and common sense honesty are actually restful in spite of the startling content of their testimony. Every 15-20 minutes I have to get up and do something else for a while to cleanse my psyche. This is some twisted and dirty stuff by some twisted and dirty humans. This trial is kind of fascinating and addicting though. It makes me wonder a little about my own mental health. My heart aches for the victims.

@agapelove2853

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@keile513

Жыл бұрын

Me too. I’m fairly seasoned with regard to following current cases… some bad stuff- Murdaugh’s etc. This is just so sickening. Someone needed to save those precious children. 😣

@LifesPeachy321

Жыл бұрын

Their messages back and forth sounded like complete wackadoodles! "I'm sending fire" "I'm blinding him with light" "get him" "oooo I'm chasing" what a bunch of crackpots! It must take the simplest of minds to believe all that hooy balooy!

My god the work done by the Prosecutors and LE to gather ALL of these emails and texts has been exceptional. All of these messages etc. describes exactly how the murders were planned and carried out!! Surely they will be found guilty of all charges on this evidence alone!

@hoosierladyus48

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. I wouldn't want to be the prosecutor in this case.

@narellegoddard7672

Жыл бұрын

Yes, well great job, but it is their job. It would have been nice if these monsters could have been held accountable for their crimes prior to 5 people being murdered. If only the cops had listened to poor Charles who was begging them for intervention on his and jj's behalf. Anyway i hope lori and chad rot.

@ENFPerspectives

4 ай бұрын

Agree. I had not seen all of this. Well done Prosecution. 👏

Who has listened to this entire testimony? Can you believe the sheer evil perpetrated here?

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

I have. There’s no bottom. It’s quite mind blowing.

@janetteperez6836

Жыл бұрын

Omg it's just crazy man 😱 and it don't stop just more keeps coming out once you think you heard it all boom here some more like wtf smfh

Poor Charles wish he never met this monster of a woman..He was her biggest threat

These cops did nothing for Charles.

@Smaugette

Жыл бұрын

If they would have listened then maybe the kids would still be alive.

@TeaSpiracy

Жыл бұрын

The allowed themselves to be manipulated by Lori. Unreal. Poor Charles

@jeanettebooker2500

Жыл бұрын

The cops did manage to get an evaluation. What people fail to remember or know is police can only do so much, it's up to the courts

@TeaSpiracy

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanettebooker2500 Did you see the video of when her and Tylee went and sat down to convince them that Charles was the crazy one? She really did play those cops lol

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

Cops did what they typically do, NOTHING! They usually side with predator and are hostile with the one who's endangered.

So difficult to understand how those two could be so evil & heartless, destroying the lives of so many & murdering so many. This is completely horrible 😪

@deborahlamartiniere6349

Жыл бұрын

The devil is cunning and as sad as this case is it is going on every day in the world, the children are the ones I pray for the most because they can't fight for themselves, so so sad.

@cocoaddams4502

Жыл бұрын

Lori really believed she was doing God's will. I'm nor in any way excusing her but that's the reason she felt empowered to do the awful things she did. She's not making an excuse for murdering her children. She thought they were evil.

@julesthecat.

Жыл бұрын

@@cocoaddams4502not buying it. She wanted a new life with Chad and her kids and ex husband were in the way.

@cocoaddams4502

Жыл бұрын

@@julesthecat. Look at broke, pathetic, Chad Daybell. Is that a guy you'd leave Charles Vallow for? I think Chad's religious message spoke to her. She probably always was a really manipulative, self-absorbed woman but Chad told her she was literally a god and that worked for her. I'm not saying that's an excuse but an explanation.

@malibudolphin3109

Жыл бұрын

And all in the name of God!

Interesting… the only “spear through her heart” moment Lori mentions was finding out the insurance money wasn’t going to her! 🤬

@LilTex0825

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha karma

@ENFPerspectives

4 ай бұрын

37:30 I just got to that part. Cold as HE Double L!

I've been following this crime since the beginning, and since the trial started, it is more bizarre than i could've ever imagined. These people are just crazy.

@CindyM372

Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@LilStampBug

Жыл бұрын

Me too 😮

@GrowingwithAnastasia

Жыл бұрын

I live in Phoenix and it’s so unnerving to know people like that are out there (not just here), walking among us and blending in. When they’re truly nothing like the rest of us.

@fstoplady

Жыл бұрын

@@GrowingwithAnastasia I know. It's just scary. We have no idea the crazies that are out there. It's like you can't go anywhere without thinking something evil will happen.

@cristi5298

Жыл бұрын

Same.

Charles was RIGHT! What a shame no one listened to him. Lori is sickening, Chad is pathetic. There’s no mental instability in Lori. She plotted and managed to initiate a fight against everyone who was in her way. That’s not a mentally unstable woman…. that’s an EVIL GENIUS. She deserves everything that is coming her way.. may misery find her.

They perpetrated a grift on their friends, alex and chads family so they could hide the real reason for the murders: adultery, greed (life insurance) and freedom from her kids but continued to receive money for them. Chad and Lori absolutely knew what they were doing and her brother Alex believed it so much he helped them murder his own niece and nephew. They should both face the death penalty and I'm not a big fan of the death penalty but if a criminal case ever deserved it, this is the one!

@Lau_rynn

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@liamguedez6782

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Well said

@diamondeyes3612

Жыл бұрын

They will deny it

@ginadantus7619

Жыл бұрын

Give them death penalty will be a compensation for their atrocities against not only the poor kids, but other people, therefore I want them to suffer in prison every single day in their lives, I want them to be haunted by their crimes for the rest of their miserable lives.

@ciobalina7445

Жыл бұрын

​​@@ginadantus7619 but they don't care. They're psychopaths and feel no remorse for killing their close ones. They will suffer more knowing that in 20 years they will be killed. Just being in jail is no suffering because they have good conditions there and they don't believe that what they've done is bad. They simply don't care that they killed people.

It's so sad, that Charles writes to Lori as if she were a decent person.

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

shows what a great man he was, huh! 😢😢 this all breaks my heart!

So glad Charles' blinders came off and he knew it was coming. So sad the police didn't listen when he told them she was going to kill him or something to that effect. He knew her better than anyone.

Wow! Did ya'll catch that? July 18, 2019, Lori to Chad, "...probably Ned before WE GOT RID OF HIM." I pray the jury picked up on that!

I hope Charles Vallow gets the justice he deserves.

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

He’s getting it now with these emails/texts being read for everyone to see.

After Hearing ALL the Emails from Charles and other emails ,, Let’s see if Chad kids ,,, STILL BELIEVE IN HIS INNOCENCE !!!

I consider myself very lucky in my life. I was married to woman like lori and I am so glad that I listened to my best friends and got out before things got really bad. I moved locations, changed my name and I cant be found on any governmental paperwork or google. I used divorice lawyer from a different city and used their office address for all correspondences. I have been following this news from the beginning and I have all confidence in the prosecutor team to keep this evil woman and chad in prison for life.

No Charles was murdered because of his life insurance and Lori wanted him gone. I would have loved to see the expression on her face when she found out she was not the beneficiary.

@birdenthusiast2095

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure she raged when she learned he changed his beneficiary.

Listening to this makes me wish that Charles would have just run w his life.

@TalesofaHobbyHopper

Жыл бұрын

And with JJ. Poor Charles, JJ, and Tylee.

Chad comparing himself to Harry Potter is an absolute insult. SMH

The death penalty should never have been taken off the table . She is a disgusting human that basics needs to be put down

@judyoram999

Жыл бұрын

Lori is scared to die. Pray God gets her.

@kittygonzalez2827

Жыл бұрын

They are definitely two of a kind! After what ive hear so far, I’m also wishing the DP were still in place for this witch! I have NOT a shadow of a doubt of their entire guilt in every horrific death we know of, and to the pure evil they shared and used to create their own disgusting reality! These are my instincts screaming at me as a pretending jury member, but I have followed this case since the beginning, when the children were missing. I’m shocked and horrified that they actually were successfully brainwashing naive Mormon bored housewives into thinking that Castings were just praying! It was no different than a coven of witches Casting Spells via Evil intent! Thank God Melanie Gibb did step forward, spilling the pieces of this puzzle in front of law enforcement. I’m not her biggest fan, but sick and tired of people bashing her involvement wanting tear her down, when their focus should be on Lori and Chad. Without Melanie, there would be no trials and no locked up perpetrators, and those dead kids would never have been located.

@kittygonzalez2827

Жыл бұрын

@@alienrocketscienceshared8454 yes that’s true...one of my sons is a Correctional Officer for the state system. I wouldn’t want that job!

@lanigirl01

Жыл бұрын

No judge was absolutely right - no death penalty - be too easy away out for Lori. Let her suffer daily for not having $. make her keeps pics of the children, Tammy and Charles in her celll so she gets 0 sleep at night.

@Leesaloves

Жыл бұрын

​@@alienrocketscienceshared8454 I heard other inmates are helpjng her with jailmade makeup.

A cold calculated sociopath . Poor Charles, I hope his family gets justice along with everyone else who has had their lives turned upside down by this evil woman…I was going to type the word “mother” but she doesn’t earn that title.

' it was probably Ned, before WE got rid of him ' Says it all doesn't it !? Definitely Evil meets Evil .

They're now referring to Charles' death as murder? Why now? To cover up their utter incompetence at the time? Shame on the Chandler police! Tylee and JJ's blood is on their hands!

@ramblinsteven2554

Жыл бұрын

Tylee, JJ, and Tammy’s blood is on the murderers’ hands, not the cops. Hindsight is always 20/20.

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

They’ve referred y to obit as murder for a while. They’ve been investigating it from the beginning. We just haven’t heard about it. Tammy’s death is now a murder too.

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

@@ramblinsteven2554 Charles’ definitely is on them. They’re partly to blame for the remainders.

@FernVert

Жыл бұрын

@Ramblin Steven that's rubbish. Hindsight nothing. They did NO investigation whatsoever at the time, other than chit chat with the evil siblings and poor Taylee.

She is really evil.He also.This is so disturbing.Poor Charles.Poor children and Tammy.

Wow just wow. Had sad. He left his insurance money to Kay for helping with raising jj not knowing what would happen. If he knew he would have protected him and tylee with his life and seems like he did!! Heartbreaking truly Heartbreaking

@ldolan4051

Жыл бұрын

Your gut tells you. Bet he had that gut feeling. Maybe that's why Tylee said, at the station, he looked so red. She took it as anger, I thought probably stress. Both maybe just a gut feeling.

I seriously hope Chad and Tammy's children are listening to *every word* of this!

I’ve followed this tragic case since the beginning with Nate and his team@Idaho news. Listening to those emails and texts read by the detective was absolutely shocking and damning . Justice for little JJ, Tylee and Tammy! 🇬🇧 not forgetting Charles

@AdgTee21

Жыл бұрын

And Tylee’s father died too. Joe Ryan. Found dead. I believe his sister was trying to get his death investigated again. Plus Alex her brother. They say natural causes but I wonder if he was given anything to fake symptoms of natural causes. It makes sense Lori and Chad would want to get rid of their hired executioner to prevent any ratting them out! Death ALL around these two!

@ENFPerspectives

4 ай бұрын

36:30 wow. I didn't know all of thus. Excellent excellent detective work.

Charles' letter to the monster is just heartbreaking. What a noble man he was.

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

Think of all the lies Lori told against Charles to sway her cult and law enforcement claiming Charles was not only cheating but was spending all their money on prostitutes. All the while Lori was draining his business accounts and running up his credit cards.

I wonder how Chad Daybell’s family (namely his children) feels after finding out their own father compared living with them and their mother after he began his affair with Lori to Harry Potter living with the Dudley’s. This must be heartbreaking for them as I found my heart heavy for them when listening to this for the first time. My prayers are with them along with the Woodcocks, Colby Ryan, and the other innocent people who have been forever affected by the actions of two extremely selfish dark individuals. This is so disturbing on so many levels. 😢

@narellegoddard7672

Жыл бұрын

I also feel for his kids but they are in total denial. To think their father is innocent in all this. He was the ring leader of this misery. He met his match in lori and all hell breaks loose. He killed their mother ffs. Its time for them to wake up.

@kelliannbyrnes9335

Жыл бұрын

Chads children are standing behind their dad… they believe he’s innocent, if you could even believe that

@maggiemoonpie2168

Жыл бұрын

@@narellegoddard7672 but think about it- that ugly ass insane man got a beautiful woman who was by all accounts a wonderful mother before they met, to fall for him in such a short time, not to mention her brother, niece and his followers. And then convince those involved to kill off everybody, even her own children. So don't you think that children who are born and raised their entire lives into that level of monstrous control, influence, manipulation and mind f*ck, knowing nothing else, are going to be automatically deprogrammed a mere 13 days after this was aired? They've likely got Stockholm syndrome. The man is a demonic cult leader after all.

@lea24457

Жыл бұрын

They are totally behind their father , weird right

@MikeHannon-jp6po

Жыл бұрын

His Children are All in Denial, of anything. I saw them say there is no way their father did anything...They are Part of The Web...They Weave...All Disciples of The Devil...

So much information was revealed. It's unbelievable how these two conspired to murder. The only dark ones were Lori and Chad. Thank you!

@bobbymccoy702

Жыл бұрын

don't forget her brother Alex and her bizzaro parents

@wallofyarn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, don't forget Alex in that! 🤢

@khm2128

Жыл бұрын

@bobby, agreed!

Oh my God. Tammy may have known. Certainly Charles, brilliant as he was had them all figured out. He knew Lori was evil, and tried to protect himself and his kids, and because she caught him in a moment of compassion - they managed to end him. Miserable woman.

@S_8-

Жыл бұрын

Charles knew , he told Tammy , that is exactly what the prosecutor is pointing out with that testimony . Huge evidences here . I really feel for Charles cause he tried so hard to save his family !! May he get justice !! As well as Tylee, JJ and Tammy

@joisagirlsname

Жыл бұрын

Charles was too compassionate to imagine the lengths she would go to.

@katiekane5247

Жыл бұрын

​@@joisagirlsname much like most people can't comprehend the evil those in control are!

@missbearlockholmes

Жыл бұрын

​@@joisagirlsname his heart was too soft. He needed to cut ties with her immediately, swiftly, quietly, and permanently.

@joisagirlsname

Жыл бұрын

@@missbearlockholmes and leave the kids behind? That was the problem. That's not being soft hearted, it's taking responsibility for what's yours.

I am so glad they read his messages aloud, Charles you have a voice, and we ALL hear your innocence ❤

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

Well said! Speaking from the grace, sadly, but thankfully!!

Wow! So the two spouses( Tammy and Charles) are dead not long after.

@milagiganticurchod6138

Жыл бұрын

and Lori's brother and the TWO INNOCENT KIDS!! plus all the ammunition and guns they kept inside the garage. Blood stains also found on the garage's floors.

@jujulionesselsa1416

Жыл бұрын

Yes and they converted Tylees jeep after they had murdered her & JJ. In to a look out to shoot people eg- Tammy, Brandon and fatally shooting Charles in Loriliar's home. Because they didn't want them around anymore.

@thatcanadianchick7589

Жыл бұрын

Strictly coincidental 😉

@hearmenow909

Жыл бұрын

@@milagiganticurchod6138 And Lori's nephew Brandon Boudreaux was shot at when sat in his vehicle.

@9sheri9

Жыл бұрын

@Liz The timeline is so crazy: 1-Charles Vallow was first, murdered by Lori's brother, Alex Cox, in June 2019. 2-Tylee and JJ were murdered in September 2019. 3-Tammy Daybell died, likely murdered, October 2019. 4-Brandon Boudreaux, Lori's ex-nephew in-law, had an attempt on his life made in Oct 2019 when he was shot at while in his vehicle; he escaped unharmed. 5-Alex Cox died of (what was reported at autopsy) natural causes in Dec 2019. As a side note, Joseph Ryan, Lori's 3rd husband & biological father of Tylee Ryan, was attacked by Alex Cox in 2007; he later died of a reported heart attack in April 2018.

I dated someone like Lori for four years and that was more than enough for me. People like that do not change. Once they become so self absorbed that they can’t even recognize when they’re hurting everyone around them, it’s too late. I don’t understand how she went from seemingly normal wife and mother to completely unhinged and hateful. Maybe if she hadn’t ever heard of Chad, none of this would have happened. Tammy, Charles, little JJ and Tyler would still be alive. There’s now way her nor Chad should get away with this. They’re both dangerous people.

@nycatlady2314

Жыл бұрын

You make a good point that’s been demonstrated historically with other pairs of criminals. Alone they are destructive but together their “power” to wreak havoc and destroy people is multiplied tenfold.

@NrthrnKnght

Жыл бұрын

she was always that person she was just good enough to cover it up..but once the orange was peeled there was no going back..

@sharonmontano4924

Жыл бұрын

She would have found someone else to help carry out her plans😮 it was inevitable

@earthrooster1969

Жыл бұрын

Really! You are not alone and so are many among us! Interestingly i know a person just like Lori, and have cut off all tied with her, it's been a year! This friend would be very caring, very nurturing, look attractive, and charming people who did not know her well, and through all that there was a total coldness that would defy logic! She used to keep a track of me, send me gifts on my birthday, and yet it was just to keep me 'around'! She used to be my ex colleague, had a nasty divorce and used to be my neighbour when she stepped into my life with big bold steps! At one point she even suggested pairing me up with her ex-husband! She had multiple phones and kept juggling them around to avoid those she had heckled! A crazy mad lady! Jodi Arias too reminded me of her! I guess there are these types walking around us and one never knows till it's too late! I am so relieved she is out of my life!

@sravd6079

Жыл бұрын

Chads kids think he is innocent and Lori brainwashed him. It’s ridiculous chad s folks blaming lori and vice veraa

Chandler police department have blood on their hands. It's disgusting how these men allowed Lori to use her physical appearance and personal characteristics to openly deceive them. They look so foolish on the videos when they were interviewing her. You can clearly tell they were thinking with their heads below the waistline to judge her and clearly missed how manipulative and crazy she looked and sounded on bodycam and video. They could have shut all of this down and lives could have been saved had they did their jobs in a professional manner!

@spirit13the1st6

Жыл бұрын

You explained it perfectly. Gilbert PD should be ASHAMED!!

@Mydogpenny1970

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

A woman detective is who should have handled these calls/concerns from Charles. She wouldn’t have put up with Lori’s flirting. There wouldn’t be any flirting! Ugh!!

@cathycupcake6849

Жыл бұрын

Hindsight is a great thing

@thesummerland6165

Жыл бұрын

@@cathycupcake6849 professionalism shouldn't be hindsight, they were negligent

BOMBSHELL is an understatement!! BUSTED!!

I’m still wondering if Lori had her third husband killed.. Her third husband, Joseph Ryan was Tylee’s dad.. Edited due to Ryan was her third husband..

@annedaner8133

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure she did.

@rufjes

Жыл бұрын

I believe Joseph Ryan was her third husband, not second. She married someone young, got divorced, married Colbys dad, then Joseph, then Charles, then Chad.

@peggyjohnson2438

Жыл бұрын

Was she his Benefactor if so more than likely 👿

@annedaner8133

Жыл бұрын

@@peggyjohnson2438 She is pure evil and so is Chad killing his own wife and two innocent children. So beyond gross! And poor Charles who tried to stop them!

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

Lori isn't into just murder. Like she says, she literally tries to destroy the person before actual death. Like a spider.

I would love to be watching Lori's smug face during all of this. Her gig is up.

@diamondeyes3612

Жыл бұрын

All she does is giggle

@franceshaypenny8481

Жыл бұрын

@@diamondeyes3612 She's basically identical to one of the Manson girls at this point.

@ldolan4051

Жыл бұрын

I would like to see it when the verdicts are read.

@Siyanibingelela

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately she probably doesn’t give a crap. That’s why, in some circumstances, I wish medieval punishments still existed in today’s society.

@earthrooster1969

Жыл бұрын

I think that psycho will still be smug..or bored .

Wow! Lori is certainly a manipulative and conniving 🐝.

The messages from CV to Lori are just heartbreaking. They remind me of the equally heartbreaking messages of Shannan Watts to her husband. All the victims here went to so much heartbreak before they were murdered. I guess that Tammy had her share of heartbreak as well before she was killed. Chad, Lori and Chis Watts are MONSTERS..

Charles he was a good father he cared about his children alot. Prosecutors, witnesses and the detectives are doing an amazing job. I wish the psychologists would have done a better job and sent Lori to a psych ward the first time she was evaluated.

@Kooskave

Жыл бұрын

Tylee, I believe is from Lori's first dead husband

@americanwoman9342

Жыл бұрын

Tylee’s father was Joseph Ryan.. Lori’s second husband whom died before Charles Vallow was killed by Alex Cox, Lori’s brother..

@AuntCathyPooh

Жыл бұрын

​@@americanwoman9342 @leenawexler @kooskave2020 Charles also had adult Sons from his first marriage. 💔

Dept. Duncan has a new job when he retires, he should be hired to do audible books for us.

@sondragramse1770

Жыл бұрын

He has a great voice

I wonder how Chad's children feel about being referred to as the Dudleys.... what a pos

@ENFPerspectives

4 ай бұрын

Horrified, I imagine. I know I would.

@82566

3 ай бұрын

41:42 🥴so cringy. Well now he's permanently under someone's top bunk locked in a tiny cell lol ....how'd that work out for you Chad ?

Charles blew the lid off their can of bs so they took him out. So horrible.

Serial killers

@mortalclown3812

Жыл бұрын

It's beyond comprehension.

@heidichristensen9978

Жыл бұрын

@@mortalclown3812 It is

Poor Charles. First watching all the body cam footage fm when he got home and she took all his stuff and company money and locked him out and just wanted help and the police made it sound like he was more concerned about the money when all he wanted was help for the kids and his wife. And now hearing these messages. I've been there. Found texts and emails I shouldn't have seen. And all you can do is bombard your partner with questions and anger and sadness and just wanting to know why. And threatening to tell the other significant other. He found out she wasn't just off the deep end but also cheating then ten days later he was killed

And we heard Chad on the phone call with Melanie state that "Tammy's health was failing, her heart wasn't good.." and that was partly true. Her heart was broken bc she knew. Even if Chad lied, and I'm sure he did, Tammy knew. Where else would this Charles guy get her info. Chad often spoke buts of Truth when lying. Like his text to Tammy about shooting the raccoon and the pet cemetery and burning the limb debris. Sick F

@TeaSpiracy

Жыл бұрын

Poor Tammy. 💔

@Weissguys6

Жыл бұрын

Oh my Lord, I never put together those words - limb debris. I feel sick 🤢 with horror. These are monsters.

@jeanwilson9925

Жыл бұрын

Tree limb debris

Charles had courage and he had to be kept quiet forever. Alex did "the job" and probably also "took care" of the kids - the zombies that had to be gone and they were! HORRENDOUS LORI AND CHAD!! MONSTERS

@cristi5298

Жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder what lies they told Alex, of what he'd get for doing the dirty deeds. I'm sure he wasn't like, "Oh, can I please be the one that kills the kids?"

Wow, after seeing this everywhere all over the News for yrs I can't believe all the information they have... Good job!!!

Beyond how psychopathic and narcissistic Lori is…….. how the hell did she ever see CHAD as somehow a move up from Charles??? He was a great man who endured so much and was so incredibly loving. I wish so much that the hired gun ‘Alex Cox’ was alive now and that we could visually see him testify now.

@MsSugar1209

Жыл бұрын

He fed into her narcissism, he thought she was the bomb diggity as she was the best piece of a$$ he EVER got. Big old goofy doughboy Chad.

@franceshaypenny8481

Жыл бұрын

She's a dingbat who got into his dumb mormon books. Plus she just wanted Charles' money, I wouldn't be surprised if she never actually loved Charles.

@nycatlady2314

Жыл бұрын

Narcissists don’t value honesty and integrity in their partners. They value loyalty and adoration from others that needs no reciprocity. She had no use for someone who would stand up to her or point out her failures as a wife and mother. She needed a Chad who would approve, condone and promote whatever she wanted. They fed off each other that way.

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

Lori needed Chad but like the spider she is, she would have killed Chad too. Lori then would have lead the cult with claims she was using that portal to get guidance from Chad who was beyond the veil. Zulema narrowly missed getting killed but Alex backed out at that hotel in Vegas where he made her lay facedown on a blue outdoor TARP on a hotel bed for a "massage.". He broke down instead and gave her advice and left her with a wad of cash. Alex and Zulema has something shady or Alex would not have taken her last name legally. Lori would not have stopped until someone stopped her. She is completely a-moral.

@EffSharp

Жыл бұрын

@@nycatlady2314 you are spot on.

What a nightmare. Chad and Lori has destroyed so many lives. It is so heartbreaking on what they have put so many people through, and all the deaths that took place. They both manipulated and lied to so many people. For their evil ways, I don't believe they will be going to heaven. They are the most evil of evils. Prayers for all the family members who have to deal with this. To have such evil in their families is something they will never get over. The emails the detective read just breaks my heart on what Charles was put through. May Lori rot in prison. Both Chad and Lori are total psychopaths.

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This is just so sad. I feel so bad for Charles. Poor guy had no one he could turn to because no one would listen to him. He seemed like such a sweet man. In the video where he talks to police, saying Lori is out of her mind, saying she threatened to kill him and she'd claimed he was an evil spirit, he sounded concerned. I detected no anger or malice, just concern and a longing to be heard. So sad.

@globalcitizenn

10 ай бұрын

He ever tried to make her go to a therapist so she could be healed

All my life I dreamed of meeting a man like Charles Vallow - attractive, loving, intelligent, dynamic and loyal. A man of real depth and integrity, who according to those who knew him best, wore his gifts lightly, and never took himself too seriously. That he met and fell in love with the evil Lori and literally threw his life away on her, is heartbreaking. The fact she ultimately killed him to fund her new life with repulsive fraud Chad Daybell (later finding to her horror Charles had switched the $1m recipient of his life insurance to his sister Kay Woodcock), reveals exactly how low rent and undeserving of Charles Vallow, Lori always was! So many chilling, prescient words in Charles' written messages to Lori. He says he thinks she means to destroy him - and that's exactly what she did do! He also mentions little JJ, the adopted son they shared and "must raise together". Except once Lori had tricked the unarmed Charles into an ambush by her brother Alex Cox during an access visit (Cox riddled her unsuspecting husband with bullets one sunny morning, when he came to take JJ out to breakfast), JJ lost his protector. Just two months after Charles' July 11th 2019 murder, his 16 year old stepdaughter Tylee was killed (8th September), and JJ died 2 weeks after that, on 22nd September. Chad Daybell's wife Tammy was murdered by asphyxiation on 19th October 2019 - 10 days after she reported to police that s strange man had attempted to shoot her on her driveway, with what she thought was a paintball gun. This was undoubtedly a genuine attempt on her life by Alex Cox, though Tammy went to her grave with no prior knowledge her husband wanted her dead. Earlier that month on 2nd October, Alex Cox had also tried and failed to shoot dead Brandon Boudreaux, ex husband of Lori's niece Melani. Not for nothing was Alex Cox' nickname 'the family hitman'! The (very convenient for Chad & Lori) sudden death of 51-year-old Cox on December 12th that year was ruled natural causes. If you believe that, you likely also believe Lori's ex husband and Tylee's father Joseph Ryan's 2018 'heart attack' death was natural too!

@janice8514

Жыл бұрын

Lori also cleaned out Charles' business account of about? (20,000?) which he was to pay his employees😢 and business expenses. He was already paying for Lori's new home and everything, and she was getting around $6,000 or so from the government for JJ's disability. What greed. She seemed to be banking on the fact that since Charles was going to be dead, why should she leave money in his account for his employees' pay cheques' right? Ugh, that woman.

@Lavender-blue80

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe that the two "natural " deaths were natural at all. At the very least, her reprehensible behaviour was a catalyst in both cases.

@lorikennedy1127

Жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree. I feel like Tammy knew. A wife kmows. If she didnt get the emails open then i suspect Charles or someone told her via phone call or something. Why send the book email tho? What was the point of it? Chad trying to cover his azz as he planned a long week of passionate sex with Chad. Charles deserved so much better. I hope Alex is burning in hell from all the pain he caused

@glamdolly30

Жыл бұрын

@@Lavender-blue80 Agreed - I'm now 100% convinced Tylee's dad Joseph Ryan was another of Lori Vallow & Alex Cox' murder victims in 2018. Lord knows Alex had been pursuing him for long enough, and there was a financial motive for Lori, ie Tylee's inheritance. By the time 59-year-old Joseph's body was found in his apartment, it was so badly decomposed it was impossible to find the tell-tale signs of foul play. And true to form, Lori made sure his body was cremated in double-quick time - even before his closest family and sister, had been informed of his death! In a supreme twist of irony, I'm also certain Alex Cox was himself murdered by Lori and Chad once he had done their dirty work for them and outlived his usefulness. The timing of Alex's sudden death in December 2019, two months after Tammy Daybell's ,was just too damn convenient for Lori and Chad. They used Alex as their hit man and grave-digger from the start - and when his work was done and the police began closing in, the couple believed they could kill him and scapegoat him for all their crimes.The audio recording of Chad's bizarre 'blessing' over him 2 weeks before he died, sounds very like the last rites. Alex Cox was ruled to have died aged 51 from natural causes - specifically some kind of thrombosis (his lungs were full of blood clots). But many believe the cause was far from natural! Charles Vallow's ex wife Cheryl has always believed both Joseph Ryan and Alex Cox were poisoned. They could also have died from an injection of air into a vein, which mimics the symptoms of cardiac arrest/thrombosis. I would love to see the deaths and autopsy reports of Joseph Ryan and Alex Cox examined and reassessed by a respected medical examiner, eg British pathologist Dr Richard Shepherd, whose distinguished record speaks for itself. Needless to say, Alex was cremated on his sister Lori's orders, faster than you can say 'foul play'! Thank God Lori was not in charge of her love rival, Chad's wife 49 year old Tammy Daybell's funeral arrangements. Chad was in charge, and he messed up badly by having her buried, not cremated, meaning a second autopsy subsequently proved homicide by asphyxiation NOT natural causes as first mistakenly stated. Chad must be kicking himself over that to this day! I wonder if Lori expressed any anger towards him? Guess not, as they were both in custody when the police investigation into her death got into gear. It blows my mind Chad was able to bump up Tammy's life insurance premiums weeks before she died, and receive the full payout on that and other policies on her death - totalling $430,000 - without insurers questioning a damn thing! A nice nest egg to launch his new married life with Lori just 2 weeks after Tammy's funeral. That pair were utterly brazen! Makes you wonder how many other spouses got away with murdering their wife/husband for a juicy life insurance payout. They were so many red flags over Tammy's death it was blinding! You'd think life insurance companies would be alert to the danger of insurance policies providing a motive for murder, as happened with alarming regularly in this case! But like the police failure to arrest Alex and Lori over Charles Vallow's shooting death, many supposed professionals were caught napping by these diabolical killers. Chandler Police in particular must be held accountable over their shocking failure to arrest Alex Cox and Lori Vallow for Charles' obvious foul play, shooting death. If those cops had done their jobs and followed basic police procedure, the subsequent murders of the two children Tylee and JJ, and Chad's wife Tammy, could have been stopped!

@tarajh

Жыл бұрын

Excellent summary!

So, Chad couldn't stand to stay in his house after he killed Tammy, but once Lori was in jail he went right back to that house. Now his children live in the home where their mother was murdered. I have been following this since the day the kids were reported and it just keeps getting worse!! :-(

@elenahuntful

Жыл бұрын

His kids are stil believe that their father is innocent.

@cristi5298

Жыл бұрын

@@elenahuntful Do you know that? We only heard from them several years ago, long before the autopsy results were given for Tammy's death. Those kids have suffered way too much. Give them a break.

I cannot listen to this without taking breaks. It’s overwhelming… listening to ALL the red flags and how this all could have been prevented, if LE took Charles seriously! It makes me feel beyond heartbroken, and sick, knowing what Tylee, JJ, Charles and Tammy endured.

@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644

Жыл бұрын

I agree ! They really slipped up 😢

@louniece1650

Жыл бұрын

It's not uncommon for Malignant Narcissists to fool almost everyone. Most people still do not understand how they work and manipulate the unsuspecting.

@spirit13the1st6

Жыл бұрын

​@@louniece1650 but the cops should know better.

@louniece1650

Жыл бұрын

@SPIRIT13 THE1ST I hear you. But look how those cops screwed up in the Gabby Petito case. I'm still scratching my head on how they dropped the ball, and now she's dead. Craziness.

@earthrooster1969

Жыл бұрын

Agree, with you, at the same time with no crime committed, not sure how much the law would have stopped Lori and Chad, who were our to create these crimes one way or the other! If both were not locked up for a very long time, they would continue with their madness ..

I can't imagine what the jurors are thinking who are unfamiliar with the case. Sounds like crazyville or some type of religious fiction.

What was Lori's expression while the emails from Charles were being read ???

@birgithaan1036

Жыл бұрын

Oh I would so have loved to watch her at that point....

@penniewyatt9391

Жыл бұрын

She is dead inside and will give you no solace.

@patriciaperdomo3978

Жыл бұрын

Cinic laughter perhaps.

@cristi5298

Жыл бұрын

Narcissists don't have empathy. She has none. She smiles and laughs when she is partly responsible for the death of at least 5 humans. She doesn't care. She only cares about herself.

The fact she never once wondered why both of HER kids were Zombies but none of HIS were shows she wanted to believe it. Also how selfish and twisted HE is. I hope he gets the firing squad. She can spend the rest of her days in jail living with it, since it seems other than herself he is the only person in the world she cares about. If she is capable of caring for anyone but herself.

Word to the wise: If your spouse falsely accuses you of having an affair, they're probably having an affair.

I'm so heartbroken for Charles and Tammy. RIP 😢

Charles was onto her. He said he was going to expose everything she was and was doing & now he's deceased under suspicious circumstances.

i’m glad the wheels of justice are again moving. Does anyone else think that Lori became even more homicidal towards her kids, especially JJ, when she figured out that charles’ life insurance payout wasn’t coming her way ? I still think she’s not all there. A smart and otherwise worldly, sane individual would never think of Chad’s books as anything but self-serving, poorly written drivel.

@257rani

Жыл бұрын

Yes I am able to say there are Men as Evil as Lori.

@backtoobasics

Жыл бұрын

I seen the o.g interview way back for his book on one of your public funded channels on cable, he had that i need help look, but also im special, so you felt like ypu needed to buy the poor guys book before he ended up homeless

@y2ksurvivor

Жыл бұрын

Chad is an oversized thumb with an unjustifiable ego and he writes exactly how I'd expect an oversized thumb to write. A small vocabulary and his sense of self is almost as bloated as his thumby body. Also, he sounds like a creepy uncle whose vocal tone betrays that he's thinking of something inappropriate. Total creep.

@FernVert

Жыл бұрын

Oh, she's all there alright. Not sure how you can say she isn't. EVERYTHING she does is calculated and manipulative.

@GrowingwithAnastasia

Жыл бұрын

Two of a kind, they are. The blind leading the blind.

This is a serious crime of so many people involved in deaths. Truly evil .

It’s all starting to make sense. Those calls from Alex Cox’s ex wife have shed much light on Lori and Alex’s relationship. Alex would do ANYTHING for Lori because he was in love with her, which is why he murdered Charles. This case is absolutely insane and so very sad and tragic.

The State should investigate also the death of Alex(even if he was an evil likewise), Charles, Tammy, Tylee’s father.

@franceshaypenny8481

Жыл бұрын

I have a theory that Alex killed himself at Lori and Chad's behest.

@susiefoxy8130

Жыл бұрын

Think it’s gonna be hard because she had them all cremated!

@Jerseybaby19

Жыл бұрын

There is a petition for Joe Ryan's death opening. They are on trial for conspiracy to commit Tammy's murder as that's now determined a murder and also Charles is a murder

@cradames

Жыл бұрын

They tried. They couldn't find it. Though it's extremely suspect he dies a day after saying he believes he was going to be their fall guy

@marymary20

Жыл бұрын

They have.

Charles and Tammy had no idea the affair of Lori and Chad would lead to their demise due to a delusion they both shared. I feel sorry for them both as well as the kids who were the most innocent of all.

@crystalmacnam2252

Жыл бұрын

Really makes me wonder if they believed the stories they were telling themselves about people taken over by evil spirits or it was just a way to cover up their lust for $$$?? I think deep down they both knew they were creating a false narrative but it was a way to make themselves feel better about what they were doing! They both went along with this fantasy deep down knowing it was bs But they were able to look at each other as loving individuals who were doing a good deed😏 Sick af. I can hardly stomach anymore news about this case. I feel nauseous as hell right now 😔

Tammy 's death was asphyxiation (exhumed and medical autopsy)

I so wish I could see Lori's face when the detective was talking about her affair and all the lies she was saying. She was just evil.

@NikkiC777

Жыл бұрын

It would have looked like this: 👁️👄👁️

@AidaShawJ.D.

Жыл бұрын

Looks like this: 🤡

I’ve been watching this case since the very very beginning. Today is the first time I’m hearing something new and shocking. I didn’t think it could get any worse.

You've just gotta love the way Det. Duncan reads these texts and emails!! It's such a pleasant break from the monotone questions and statements from the attorneys!!

Charles was totally ignored about his concerns for Lori, and fears for his life being in jeopardy.... Had the Police taken him seriously he may still have been alive today.

Bless the innocent deceased! So horrible!