Lagoon should have a crew going around fixing all these boats! I feel for you guys

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%, i'd even fly in and advise if they actually put in that kind of effort!

@geofferyrobertson6608

5 ай бұрын

@@david_shih , you would get a better job doing it yourself and letting them buy the supplies and pay for accommodation otherwise it would only be a patch job

Great episode. Love the style. To those 450 owners who want to brow beat you about exposing this major design flaw, shame on them for wanting to bury this safety issue. Someone could die at sea as the rigging goes slack and the boat starts to fail structurally. Thank you, and Parley and others too, for demanding a solution.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you see it that way! Thanks for the support!

@geraldwoodworkingllc4674

Жыл бұрын

You know what! Lagoon just don’t care because 95% of this owner just keep the Boat on the Marina, they not use the boat very often. They are billionaire and use the boat feel weekends per year. They would never find out until Collin from Parlay did. Thank you Collin!

@geofferyrobertson6608

5 ай бұрын

@@geraldwoodworkingllc4674 , so true , Colin deserves a Knighthood

@chevman46

Ай бұрын

Design flaw ...yes....

You are such a good story teller man!! Loved!!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Man, that means so much coming from the master! From metal house to metal boat! Love you guys. Can't wait to finish repairs and start sailing like you guys!

@donnakawana

2 жыл бұрын

As are you Odd .. I want my own sailboat... Been on the hard too long... The Ocean is calling... One day before I die.... Til that day I will watch an learn. Cuz I learn so much!!

@robbbbbie12

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih I agree, a natural in front of the camera, and such a professional looking video production.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbbbbie12 well robbbbbie with 5 b’s, you made my day!

@wanderlustscuba

2 жыл бұрын

Says two of the best story tellers out there! Ha ha Love to see the sailing community supporting each other. Love both the channels.

Man, Lagoon has really committed business suicide with this build mistake. I really hope they step up and take care of these owners.

DOPE VIDEO, your editing makes me want want to push harder in my editing, you are such a breath of fresh air, watch out world The Shih are about to be KZread famous, we cant wait to meet you and the family on the water and do some tri training on some random island by running on amazing beaches and swimming in beautiful water, the future is so amazing, your videos are inspiring and awesome... keep pushing, the greatness has begun

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

We are like long lost friends that never met, with everything in common (but we used to vanlife instead of RV)! get a boat already and lets go sail. Where are you guys at the moment? we have to make a video together!

@tryNsomethingnew

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih we are in the florida keys for awhile and yes let’s colab soon. OK i gotta get back to editing lol

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@tryNsomethingnew Waiting for your new vid to drop!!!!

@sandralee5621

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih in the near future, we would love to buy a catamaran that is in great shape that needs new motors becuase we want to buy new electric motors, create que a completely electric off grid lifestyle, if you come across one, and could let me know i would be truly greatful, am heading to fort lauderdale for thanksgiving week. But we are only and hour flight from there

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@Sandra Lee love the electric conversion idea, I have that dream as well, but batteries & dc generators are so expensive. Have you looked into electric motors yet? I’ve only researched ocean volt and super nice! will keep you in mind if I see something.

There should be a class action suit and made them take everyone of those boats and cut them up for good and pay everyone for the cost they paid for them .

@stephenkamper9261

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt, Dave. If it is true that no owners have filed a lawsuit, and that no class action suit has been forth-coming, I question the intellectual capacity of Lagoon 450 owners. Such a pervasive and catastrophic mis-design yet the owners just wallow in the quagmiire, create KZread videos and sing Kumbaya together. If it were me, I'd be putting a call into Blood, Hurst and O'Reardon. By attempting to repair the boat as Parlay Revival did, you are subjecting yourself to inhaling more fiberglass and resin dust than one should reasonably do in three lifetimes. Not to mention the massive exposure to solvent compounds known to cause organ cancers. This, even if you do all you can to control your exposure. Jobs like that should be worked in nearly the same fashion as asbestos abatement. I feel for these hapless blokes, but cannot understand their willingness to take it up the backside. Must have something to do with the personality make up of cat owners in general. No matter what, Dave Shih makes great videos. All of them are tour de force productions for a KZread guy.

Thank you & Parley for exposing these issues. I’m definitely never buying a Lagoon going forward as there’s no way this is limited to just the 450’s

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome--thanks for the support!

@bradaltemeyer4472

2 жыл бұрын

Engineering skills are tested by every design, so, I think you may be absolutely right/ this "engineering capacity" may be representative of the level of "high" ish skill of Lagoon Catamarans,,,, but Maybe that is an alternate meaning of "high"

@david_shih

Жыл бұрын

@@bradaltemeyer4472 it’s just too easy to hide bad worksmanship that will never be inspected bc it’s hidden behind permanent walls that you can’t get around.

@bradaltemeyer4472

Жыл бұрын

I suspect the engineer specified the right quality plywood, but the yard substituted something not appropriate and pocketed the difference. but then again- I am suspicious quality, is doing it right regardless of anyone being able to see it

@davemasbutter266

Жыл бұрын

@@david_shih it’s really unfortunate you’re having to deal with these issues & thank you for posting the content. Cheers!

It's probably been obvious to everyone else for months, but I just realized that a lot of what many of us thought were "fit and finish" quality issues on lagoons may well have been shifting from broken bulkheads. Also, if you're editing this yourself, bravo. If you hired someone, keep them, it's a unique style on boattube.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly!! Its so common to hear that this and that problem is "normal" on a lagoon. Yes, they're only normal because all the bulkheads are broken and causing those issues. Thanks for the kind words on the editing! If i could find someone to edit I would absolutely use them because this episode literally took me 67 hours to edit. Didn't sleep from thursday early morning until saturday night. Also edited every spare second of the day all week between all the boat work. So happy to hear you liked it, so sounds like it was worth it.

@faircompetition1203

2 жыл бұрын

Yes , so true . A friend had a Lagoon 450 and I stayed on it a number of times . Great party platform and comfortable but I noticed the crap fit and finish , sliding door not closing and more and just put it down to production boat . I now realize it was busted too . He never sailed it , it was just a party platform for the Caribbean and there was a different boat for sailing - he said the Lagoon sailed like shit and motored everywhere . So he never broke it Lucky for him he sold it before this all came out and never knew about it .

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Its crazy how long this problem has been lurking being the cabin walls. If there are newer 2020 models with this issues that means the older ones were probably broken just out of the factory. There was just no reason to premptively disassemble wooden walls and trim to inspect the bulkheads. So they just kept bending and warping until one day it finally fails completely and the rigging goes slack. Then you know...

Another tip, if it's necessary to file stainless steel don't use a convention file unless you finish with a cutting disk and polish the cut edge, the reason? A file is made of carbon steel and when you file anything with it, it leaves steel deposits on the stainless, this mixed with salt water make for rusty streaks, trust me this was something else we learnt through experience and experiments.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent advice...had no idea--will use this tip when building the solar arch!

At least there will be two seaworthy Lagoon 45's sailing the oceans soon. Good job David.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah!!! Me and Parlay baby! Well there are a few other's that have copied Colin's extensive fix too.

Don't feel bad for pointing these things out! You could be saving lives. Someone could take one of these cracked monsters out in Blue Water and come to a very bad end. Keep up the great work! I learned so much (shake the shrouds)..

Loved the video! Looking back last boat, it is in so bad state. It is safe to say now, that Lagoon called those "bulkheads", but reality is that they designed ship with no bulkheads. Also I'm so happy how everyone of you come together and tell the story, helping each other out - this is what I love from the sailing community!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

It's a wonderful community isn't it. The default is to band together and help each other...i don't think you can find that attitude anywhere else!

Good on you David, taking over from where Colin left. Your videos are a work of art man. Cheers

Nice job David! Keep up the good videos, your a natural at this. I think its great you can keep upbeat with all this work. Personal note to Lagoon: This problem is not going away! Man up and fix the ffin Problem!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Dean! Couldn't do it without all of your encouragement. Thank you!

@jdhogfan

Жыл бұрын

GO HOGS! Love your boat Dean!

Those string line tips on the floors/decks will help many potential buyers and existing owners eyeball the problem very easily without being sucked in by all the razzle dazzle of a beautiful boat ,great job

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

want to hear something crazy? After all the bulkhead issues and people started testing, Lagoon recently released an "acceptable sinking/bend" spec. I think they're claiming 20mm is normal. I don;t expect to see any on Parlay and my boat once we're in the water, but will keep you posted!

@petercooke2115

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Foobah

@faircompetition1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Yikes , if one expects it to bend 20mm then it should be made with 20MM of pre-bend the other way so it is level when in the water. I call bull Sthit , , no boat should bend 20mm sitting still , what happens when you have 15 people partying aboard ?

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@faircompetition1203 Parlay and I both went a bit past level (~5mm) so it can bend back a tiny bit. but i agree...the floor shouldn't sink in the middle by design!

Love the Tesla hack. Lol I agree with everything you’ve said about the boat and lagoons responsibility. You have been more then fair with lagoon about it. They should call the “Lagoon 450” The “Swamp 450” until the proper repair’s are made. Then call it a “Regoon 450” To signify the bulkheads are repaired. Get it ? A repaired lagoon is a Regoon

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

hahah...im going to redo my lagoon logo on the side of the boat to say regoon. nice one!

Never thought watching at others men's cracks would be intresting...... Dude love your positive attitude keep going you'll get there man!!!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha, cracks, lol... Ive been watching colins cracks for months.

@djopdam199

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Whahaha 😆

@guest9922

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih ,lol,you're dammm. funny and love the humor..

David, great video. That trimaran at 1:19 used to be my boat. It’s a 2001 Dragonfly 1200.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

You're kidding man! I saw it as i was leaving the marina and had to pull over and get the shot! What was it like to sail that thing??? What kind of boat are you in now!

For you to maintain a sense of humor is admirable.......I'm not so sure I could. You are definitely providing a service and should be applauded for that.....thanks you.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

wow, never saw it like that. than you bro, and your name is too cool for me not to check out your channel...clicking now!

I love your fast pace and editing ... fast moving, interesting with humor. Keep it up!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Will do Patrick! Thanks for watching!

We'll know more when Parlay gets back in the water (if it's not already) - put it through some heavy sea's and see if Colin (& Jamie) fixed it. It should do the amount of fibreglass they piled in it !

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying my darndest to beat parlay to splashing. I still have a week or so of fiberglassing and they have sugar scoops to finish up. And we both need to primer and antifoul! Shooting for the end of the month!

@ot0m0t0

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih BRAVO!

@faircompetition1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Good luck - remember you can not overbuild it - there is not enough space . Put in as much as you can

80’s era HEAVY FIBERGLASS monohull yes baby it holds together in anything! I love my Pacific Seacraft more everyday! Hang in there David.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Boats just aren't built like they used to be eh? I know cats need to be lighter, but I'd sacrifice a bit of speed over durability any day!

Have been following the repairs with yourself and Colin. Beautiful boat and a serious amount of work to make it strong again. You guys are an inspiration to people to keep as positive as possible when you are going through crap like this. The end result traveling with the family into crystal clear lagoon waters will be worth it all. I watch from Australia, regards Steve.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve...so cool that you're inspired! After years of watching Colin inspired me to buy a boat in the 1st place. I just never thought it would lead to him helping me fix it as well!

Haters gonna hate. Open Butthole was priceless. And lets face it. Its on the butt of the car, and its.. well. A hole. Epic couple of vids. You are a fantastic storyteller. Cant wait to see what happens with the boat.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Aw yeah! My Reddit friend. As for his comment… yes, I’m definitely immature. But if that bothers them, wait till they see the footage of us partying on parlay, it gets a whole lot less mature than that. Or that time I did a whole women’s aerobics workout on the flybridge with Silvia, Colin’s gf.

Got to say you are a star ,none stop smile on your face and mega positive, it's a pleasure to watch your videos.

@mary_shih

2 жыл бұрын

His smile is what I fell in love with the first time we met…in Vegas! 😍

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Too kind Bill! So glad to have you watching!

David, I hope you get your boat back together soon and you can take if for a sail. Would be nice if you could take off and sail with Colin when they cross the Pacific. There's so much to see and do on all of the little islands you pass. You should really have some help fixing your boat. Good luck!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to cross with Parlay, but I'm probably headed back to Texas to repair my cabins. I will try to splash when colin does...at least we'll get to go for a sail or 2 together.

Well we never know what life has in store for us... Then it revealed an boom .... Your in it to win it... An your doing it in the most inspirational way. Thanks mate✌🏻💗😊❣️

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Donna Kawana! still lovin' your name!!!

Loved the video David. Glad you were able to hang out with friends. So sorry you have had to go through all of this. Hopefully your boat will be completed soon.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I'm getting close John! About another month and a half and I sould be splashing!

David you need to make more videos. You are really good. Your stuff is interesting, engaging and your presentation excellent.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I'm absolutely doing it Tomek! I committed to myself after the Annapolis boat show that I would do 1 video per week no matter what. So far 2 weeks and 2 videos. It's taking all of my waking time (and some sleeping time) but well worth it. So happy to see you're enjoying them!

Yikes.. that sort of a brand new boat can have issues like that??? Lagoon really needs to get their shit together.. as always.. awesome video.. PS: yo that tesla trick was neat

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thx Techie! working on the next vid already, trying to have it ready by next weekend!

That positivity, and finding the humor in the absurdity of life, dude I'm uplifted just hearing your tale.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

im stealing that saying my man! absurdity of life....it is pretty absurd isn't it...we just act like its normal.

@Packrat_Garage

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps I should have taken up writing fortune cookies instead of mechanics - but: Normal is a setting on a dishwasher - Harley Quinn. Embrace the absurdity, because it's clearly not going to leave. - Me, just a moment ago.

Awesome vlog man! Can’t wait to see some progress updates on your boat.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

More boat progress next week! Thanks for following!

Some one should file a class action case against Lagoon. If these were cars the various MOT/DOT's would haul them off the road.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, Right? Any auto with similar problems would have been recalled long ago!

Hi there David, so good to see you still doing your thing and staying positive. The Lagoon situation is just crazy at the moment ... I'm hoping you and owners like you manage to nail Lagoon for repairs and compensation, because if Lagoon don't play fair then let's face it, no-one will order from them again - ever! I do like watching your rants though, and I love how you're trying to help folk, same as with Colin. Best of luck to you both.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jay…learned from the best! Colin’s the man. Im almost done with my repairs (the videos are a tad behind) just hope these 2 owners dean and Andrew get some help from Lagoon. And also hope lagoon doesn’t nail me 1st. Don’t shoot me lagoon, I love your boats more than any other, that’s why I’m trying to fix mine!!!

@jay_behr

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih The thing is, Lagoon pretty much HAVE to help owners out, now it's proven that a) the issues aren't "hurricane damaged boats" only and b) that they have some manufacturing issues, as demonstrated by the state of some of the bulkheads. If they start hassling legit owners like yourself I doubt they'll ever sell another boat - things already look pretty tough online whenever anyone tries to sell one, and that won't change unless and until Lagoon get a reputation for helping their customers, so I reckon things will work out in the end. Also, some of the nations that have bought Lagoon boats have some fairly bulletproof lemon laws - Norway and Finland, to name just two. I'm glad it's nearly all done so we can see some video of you kicking back and having fun instead of slaving away on the boat all the time, although we like the repair vids too :) Hang in there fellah.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@jay_behr i thought exactly the same as you a couple months back. But after going to the boat show in Annapolis i saw the catamaran craze and realized this isn’t hurting their new boat sales at all. They’re actually 2-3 years back ordered. And then it all made sense why they don’t care about a few hundred owners who are suffering. As for sailing instead of boat work? I can’t wait to make video of us anchoring in some clear blue water and tossing our kids overboard from the flybridge! I’m sure I’ll get yelled at in the comments.

@jay_behr

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Someone always yells from every comment section. Just block em and move on :) And yeah, maybe some folk will buy a flawed product even when they're shown the truth but I think maybe in due course there will be a downturn ... we shall see. Some harder times a-coming and maybe fewer folk who can afford a new catamaran ... I know I can't! :)

@caseybachmeyer

2 жыл бұрын

the lagoon people..who study on university..professionals...experts..lol..they are maybe good people. But maybe they have to change business..making hats..or baskets for easter..something where the damage will be not so big

Lagoon MUST do something and solve the problem they have created to the catamaran owners and if they do nothing all of you should joint forces and take them to the court, I really hope they give you all a solution, take care

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support Oscar! Hope we find these 2 guys a solution!

Absolutely Brilliant vidclip David, .... So Well presented, had a Really Good laugh a good few times .... Look forward to your next vidclip .... Best wishes to You and Also to Colin .... Keep well and Stay safe ... Cheers from NZ

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yay NZ! i spent a month in Christchurch with my uncle! Snowboarded and bungiejumped in Queenstown! Absolutely can't wait to get there with the boat and spend as long as my visa will allow!

Always waiting for the next episode! Thomas from Sweden

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Thomas great to hear because I’m already starting on the next episode believe it or not!!! Got to have it ready by you latest next Saturday!

Great episode David!! I hope you take this KZread channel further because you are doing very cool editing and you are such a pleasant and fun guy to watch. So the more you guys reveal on the Lagoons maybe even I will be able to afford one when my time to get a sailboat comes😂 If I was in a different time of my life or like 15 yrs ago I'd book a one way ticket to Panama and helped you out working on your boat but now I need to focus on my career and family. But in 8 years time kids are all grown up, my loans should be paid off and the more I see from the Lagoons I recon you might still be in Panama fixing up your boat so keep a beer cold for me 2030!!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll do everything I can to keep this channel going! I totally understand about focusing on the kids. I feel horrible for being away for so long trying to fix this boat. I try to make up for it by going back home every few weeks, but I know it’s not enough! Waiting you on the water in 2030, but hope you can move that date up a bit!

@StevoBolgakov

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih My problem is getting wife hooked on my dream 😂 She is not too keen on blue water sailing. So I guess I need to figurer out how to do crossings alone and she will fly to the destinations. Well I need to learn to sail too but I have a few years to do that. A sneaky plan I have is to get my son hooked on it so He and me can do the sailing and then he can do all the hard stuff while I am laying back having a beer.🙂

@faircompetition1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@StevoBolgakov Tip for getting children hooked - let them drive and trim the sails . They don't want to just ride on it they want to sail it

Love this video fun! yet informative not negatively presented. Congrats

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Contrary to popular belief, most of the owners aren't mad at Lagoon that their boats are broken...they're just confused and disturbed that Lagoon won't help them.

"Objects in the rear view mirror, may be a Lagoon Sicario" 😂😉1000's of Lagoons OMG😜

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I loved that movie, and now you've got me worried. Sleeping with my flare gun tonight.

@peterthermocline

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih 🤣🤣🤣🤣💥💥💥

@peterthermocline

2 жыл бұрын

Come to think of it, its probably far more dangerous being pulled over by a cop car in the US. 🙄

@shanemichael3925

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it’s only the 450s that are having bulkhead issue, yay, nay ?

David, I am loving your videos brother!! Fun and Informative! Keep them coming! Also, it would be great to get a little back story on you…your background , how you got into boating, how you decided to just head to Panama, what kind a business your in and your plans for the boat once she’s all fixed up with new bulk heads. Thanks for putting these videos out and loved the Tesla Water Bottle trick…I’m sure you’ll get some comments on that one! 😉

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey J...i'd love to do an episode on my background. I guess i figured it wouldn't be all that interesting. I'm just a normal dude with a wife just as crazy as me. We sold most of our stuff and decided boat life it is! Then boat was broken and the only person i could find in the world to help me fix it was Colin from Parlay Revival and he was in Panama. We sailed there and that's where ive been for the past 9 months. She went home to work a take care of the kids. To be honest, being away from the family is the hardest part of this whole repair.

@StevoBolgakov

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih I really agree with J!! I am sure that with your personality and your story you really have good grounds to make a succéfull youtube channel.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@StevoBolgakov wow guys. Thanks, really. Alright I’m going to go edit now…inspired!

@donnakawana

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Yes, I concur... ✌🏻💗😊❣️

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@donnakawana donna kawana? Is that your real name because it’s awesome. Help me come up a name for my channel? I’m so stumped!

Your positivity through all of this is pretty damn impressive. 👍

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Rick...the secret is I just don't film the times that I'm crying in the dark, holding my knees and rocking in the corner of my destroyed cabin while breathing fiberglass dust and wondering what I'm doing with my life.

@ricksundberg5659

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih 😂

@caseybachmeyer

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih unbelieveble..lagoon have to give you another boat without cracks...not tomorrow but TODAY!!! otherwise....you know what i am talkn

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@caseybachmeyer Otherwise…otherwise…I’m just going to sit here and take it, ha!

By far your best video yet!!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

You think? Wow thank you!!! Always trying to improve!

David, you are killing it!!!! Great video.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yaaaas! Precision sails! I love you guys! Can't wait to get your sails on the boat!!!

David Odd Life nailed it your a great story teller. How does someone make auto steering funny and interesting at the same time. Lets see how fast your subscription can get to 100, 000. However still have the same complaint too short. LOL look forward to the next post.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I love hearing that complaint! But damn if it's not difficult to keep the general viewers attention on longer videos. I envy those other channels that have 25 minutes videos and hundreds of thousands followers. I'm thinking I'll create a bunch of extra content for other platforms like Patreon or Instagram. Still trying to figure all this out! But keep the suggestions coming please!

Bravo David,, keep up the great video's and just because Lagoon got Parlay off their ass doesn't mean the problem fixed... You have shown that the problems extend to many other boats,,,, maybe Lagoon will invite you to do a factory tour.. Good luck Sir and stay the course.......... 👍⛵👍

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Brent, Colin is still working behind the scene trying to get lagoon to help owners. Sadly its an uphill battle as some owners are still fighting us as we try to help.

David, don't worry about the haters, both yourself and Colin have helped communicate to people the need for a proper survey on ANY boat purchase. Not just Lagoon 450's or any specific builder... ALL boats need a survey as part of purchase.. or the boat had better be $ Free ! You have to know what is going on, particularly since this is a home that MOVES. You can't get a loan on most homes without an inspection in most places in US, a boat needs it even more.. any seller trying to avoid that isn't worth buying from imo... Take Care !

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Mike, you'd be surprised. My surveyor, as well as the surveyors of both boats in this video missed the bulkhead problem completely. Of course Andrew's boat broke a lot more on his way back from the carribean, but it definitely already had bulkhead issues. Hopefully with everything out in the open future surveyors wont miss anything.

@mkllove

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih I'd get in contact with that "surveyor" for a refund ! How they could miss the things visible above deck level like doors and windows or drawers out of whack, let alone not using a bubble level on every horizontal surface in boat is hard to understand. Add in they knew it was a hurricane boat, right or was that only in Colin's case with PR ?

Loved this video David. Thanks for the road trip.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Gotta say, auto pilot on boats is still quite better than in cars!

Man! You are getting way better at editing and storytelling! Well done! I wish I had a way to go and help you with the work… Nice to see you uplifted with the project.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Art! come down and visit...or wait till we're back in Texas depending on where you're from.

@arturosorio9418

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Thank you David! I'm from Portugal. If only it was closer or cheaper to travel...

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Portugal, I was looking at a bunch of boats in that area before we bought! I was too scared of crossing the atlantic tho. Wonderful place that I hope to sail to one day!

@arturosorio9418

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih it’s Art from Portugal 🇵🇹 Let’s hope you find the courage to sail here after the boat is ready. I live in Oporto. Yes, the place where the Port wine comes from 🧐 as I can’t travel to go and help you there, let me know if I can help from here. 💪🏻take care! Your new vídeo is epic and the negative pressure room is awesome!

Damn... That video is FIRE! Loved it. Super good point about Lagoon pushing through this. You can almost be ok with the damage, but a bad response from the company? Super not cool. I sure hope they really step up on this. A lot of work to be done there... Safe travels back to Panama . Love to talk to you sometime about boats... Thanks for all your (and Colin's) work on this. F

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yay Franny! Thanks so much for such kind words-this video literally took me all week long. Including all last night…on the upside, I’m slowly getting faster at editing. Trying to decide if I should stay out of sync and do the boat show episode next, or should I go back to the boat work in panama? Thoughts?

@HeidiandFranny

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih First you crushed it so there's that... :) I bet you could use the boat show footage to pull it all back to Panama - like some of the reasons you are working on the boat in the first place. It was super cool to meet you and Mary and I know you have a lot of footage from that. That stuff always resonates. Your pacing and story telling is so on point. That S&*T is hard to do well. I need some lessons on how to make putting a car suspension back together exciting and fun! We are really getting amped about this boat thing. Trying really hard to talk ourselves out of a FP47 at the moment. Lots of other cool choices like the Nautitech 46 Fly you mentioned. We have got to get out there!!! Oh, I knew about the orange trick but not the water bottle. Awesome. ;)

@mary_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@HeidiandFranny I enjoyed talking to you guys so much during Parlay’s Patreon meetup! David will definitely carve away some time from boat work and editing to give you a call. He loves chatting with people about all this! I have your contact info!

@HeidiandFranny

2 жыл бұрын

@@mary_shih :)

You are a legend. Keep up the great videos. You are going to go places, without a doubt. Love you effervescent style.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

ooooh effervescent....sounds awesome. thank you Ando!

You do a real good post , Thanks .

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

No, thank you Bill!!

Next Tesla software update will include a bottle detection algorithm and you will need to say the current time followed by the words "Autopilot - I am paying attention"

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

yeah probably...and you'll probably have to look at the interior windshield camera so it can scan your eyes to make sure!

@PastorwithoutaPulpit

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Believe it or not you're not wrong. That's what's being suggested now is that they monitor drivers with the interior cameras at all times when driving. Look into it you may want a new car soon...

Having owned 4 different Lagoon cats, I am in tears learning about these problems. I am thinking about if this is isolated to 450...on my 440 the salon door had a 15mm mis-allignment gap, just as seen in this video of the 450...maybe my boat had broken bulkheads as well...currently out boat shopping, and Lagoon should not be on my list, but the 500 is such a great platform...but do I really want a 5th Lagoon now...not sure...wish I would...

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Niels, im with you....I love lagoon despite all this crap. They are awesome boats. The bulkhead issues is mostly with the 450's, but theres a 410 in linton bay panama that's about to haul out with broken bulkheads. I was talking with James from Zingaro who told me about a 500 he sailed on with bulkheads problems as well. I think your best best is a new and recently reinforced/redesigned (post bulkhead-issue) Lagoon 46.

@PastorwithoutaPulpit

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Did you mean to heart your comment or his David or is the another finger under the board you whack with hammer moment? 🤣

awesome video. Well done. Love your content.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary, great to hear you like it! Can't wait to get more out for you !

Your videos are absolutely amazing! Really enjoy watching you...keep up the great work! Also, diggin the haircut!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha thanks! Had to cut the hair because of all the fiberglass dust!

Wow these issues with these boats are horrific . The Last boat I would think is barely seaworthy with the amount of cracks and broken bulkheads.. Great video

@faircompetition1203

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong - not seaworthy at all . No Barely even

@hthring

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, could separate and sink anytime

@faircompetition1203

2 жыл бұрын

@@hthring Fine for maybe powering around but certainly not to take to sea and face waves and wind . It is a cascade failure , growing as one bit after another fails . Frankly I would even be scared lifting out .

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah...thank god he was close to home when the bulkheads finally failed completely and the rigging went slack! The lifting iw actually ok if you use a travel lift with straps. The motion actually pushes the bottoms of the hulls together back into alignment. Not so good for the mess of wood inside that cracks all over again, but mine and Parlay's lifted fine out of the water.

@dhold10

2 жыл бұрын

just total it, not worth repairing

I have no doubt you will get your Lagoon strengthened and repaired into better than new condition. Does the airplane interior guy have suggestions on repairing the cabin after you're done with the structural repairs? In my uninformed opinion these cosmetic things would be even more pain. Glad you are making progress.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Dean the airplane guy has all the experience in the world with interiors. Hoping to lean on his expertise when i get the boat back to texas. Thanks for continuing to follow the crazy journey, means a lot.

@sandralee5621

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih yea i would definately hold on to his number

Love the channel, you are such a natural on the screen. If you ever decide you need another career, you should look at a TV show, your personality really shines through. Good luck with the splash, you are going to be one of the few properly repaired boats out there!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously man? Thanks so much Robin. Can't wait to splash...maybe another month or so!

yes agree with Rob Miller below. really loved the Tesla solution ...lol

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

It used to work great with just an orange stuck in the steering wheel!

Great entertainment. Let me comment on the number of Lagoon Catamarans... If the 450 is affected, also the other models will probably have issues. The bonding of the plywood is done on all Lagoons the same way. Maybe the bulkheads on other models are stronger against buckling and bending but the joints below the floor for example will be done similar. And as said the bonding to the hull also.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

the putty bonding technique is definitely inadequate... many lagoons already show cracking there and need to be tabbed in. but hopefully the cracking bulkheads are just isolated to the 450.

@beverleywalker1988

2 жыл бұрын

The bulkhead issue is not only the 450. We have fixed a 50 with the same issues. I have just finished fixing a 450. Both have companionway and forward bulkheads, inboard on both, damage. As boat builders in NewZealand we are appalled with the construction methods used. I used Iroko timber posts on the frd repairs glued to the existing bulkhead. I removed the companionway bulkheads each side and replaced with a19mm mixed grain hardwood ply, 4 layers of 625 double bias tabed to wing deck and all around the cabinets etc, fitted fore& aft bulkheads and glassed on to the cockpit floor and bridge deck. We hung the boat so the hulls ended up within 10 mm of the design center line. If anyone would like me to email some pictures I would be happy to do so. sailorwalks@hotmail.com. The material costs are not that great,but the hrs can add up.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Bev thanks for sharing! Sending you an email now! Would love to see your work!

You are such a Cool dude..... keep at them until they Pay

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Just trying to help out my 2 buds... I know the crazy volume of work that lies ahead if lagoon doesn't help them out.

Great camera work! You are a pro

Shaking my head saying Wow! 👍😎👍

way to be a spokesmen for other boat owners, cant wait to see you boat update.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Just trying to help these 2 guys out a bit.

HELL yah bro ! Way to call lagoon out ! Love to see the content !

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks wanderlust...sweet name btw, i'm really trying to come up with something good for the channel. Also how do you like the dji FPV? I've been considering picking one up, but Im certain I'll crash it...

Thanks so much. Great adventure. Waiting for the next episode. Greetings from FIJI 🇫🇯.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

FIJI?! wow, cant wait to take the boat out there. It's definitely one of the places ive been dreaming about visiting since i was a kid! What's it like living in paradise?

@ratukinijojiramasima8738

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih sure my friend. You must try to visit our island paradise. Hope to see you soon. Best wishes from FIJI 🇫🇯.

Haha that water bottle trick cracked me up!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like tesla keeps improving the 'sensing' tech. I used to work great with just an orange stuck in there. Then that stopped working but a waterbottle would cut it...now the water bottle doesn't work half the time.

David, you went professional with this video, very dynamic.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

You think so? I was trying hard to go for something constantly changing and exciting. Thanks for watching!

Spent many a day at Alan's Swamp Shack watching the boats go in and out of that marina. Hope you get everything right and get your boat and yourself back to the family soon!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Alan’s Swamp, I’ll have to go check it out. 2 more months should do it!!!! I hope…

Great video, cheers!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks TheDude!

David that was an excellent video, have

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thx Steve, really glad you enjoyed it!

The Lagoon 450 when released was the catamaran that just about everybody wanted, it was a beautiful design and that flybridge was simply heaven. The bulkhead issue is never going to go away and Lagoons response has been pretty lack-luster at best. Anybody who thinks about it will recognise that it would cost millions of dollars for Lagoon to do all the repairs to all these cats but failing to do the right thing is costing them more in lost business and a devalued product and reputation. Like you the 450 was one of my dream cats but would I buy one now --- I don't know, would Lagoon be my first choice in a cat purchase, also doubtful. Thanks for all the videos David I love your style and enthusiasm.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Glen, you're right on the money...and maybe it's that flybridge that introduced some unexpected forces on the bulkheads. Appreciate you watching the vids!

@russellprout723

2 жыл бұрын

Even if every 450 is repaired this story will be remembered for a long time. This cat is tainted because even if the bulkheads are repaired can owners be sure that all the secondary damage as been found and repaired. It will never have the same number of people chasing to buy second hand and certainly will only sell at rock bottom prices.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

@@russellprout723 maybe the priceless buckets of blood, sweat, and tears i will have put into her by the time I’m done will bring the resale back up a bit.

@glenpeters955

2 жыл бұрын

@@russellprout723 Sadly you are probably right Russell. Even if properly repaired and strengthened any potential purchaser would be hesitant or at the very least want to see all the repairs, strengthening and possibly engineers reports and those items may not be available. The crying shame is that this is a fantastic design and if properly repaired is one of the best cruising cats ever built. The damage to Lagoon's reputation (which was a bit dodgy anyway re after sales service) will take a long time and a lot of money to repair.

@russellprout723

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih I hope so David. Where the owners have gone through their boats like yourself and Colin have it would make me as a potential buyer happier than if a yard were to do so.

thanks for putting in all that work

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

hey thanks for watching and making all the work worth it!

such a killer video. awesome editing man!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked! Thx for the comment!!!

You've spent a great amount of time editing, and it shows. What a great vlog 👏👏👏👍

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks AI Man or is it Ai Man...I'm thinking its Ai! Youre definitely right Man, this one took me about 75 hours. I'm super slow at editing at the moment. Trying to get faster!

Great Vid, man that is the cleanest boat I have ever seen. Nice shots of the 450 from all around, love the 450 flybridge but I had to look up that Nautitech 46 Fly and that is something else (although the 450 as a bench encourages you to be together)... Trust Dave to come up with a Tesla hack for steering hahahaha

one word, passion! dude your awesome!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Pontus...i appreciate that more than you know!

Glad to see you were looking to hang in my hood (born and raised in the area)! When you finally make your berth, I'll send some champagne for celebrating your final "homecoming". Maybe a steak at T-Bone Tom's! (They ARE good!) We have a 70 Morgan 40 ketch in Aransas Pass under refit right now..

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

T-Bone Tom's I'll have to check them out! You're invited for the christening! Good luck on the refit!

You rock David!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

No AWBaby you rock. And thx. :)

outstanding job

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

really appreciate you watching Ed!

And now it is Monday morning here on the Big Island. And I have seen you every where. On about two or three different sv channels. Lol. Looks like you are injoying life. And that is good because life is to short. Ok until next time Aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii 🏝

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Really which ones? I'm such a sucker for sailing channels!!! I know i made it on Parlay spying on Colin's underwater lights! Which other?

Nice thanks for sharing this with us. Its been a problem for a lot of people for sometime. Sad to see its a problem with boats that didn't have damage from storms. Its really a good looking boat and should be fixed. I would like to see the factory help with this a little more but I guess that there trying to limit there involvement so they can say its just hurricane damage or something like that. But its not. Good luck and safe travels. You have gained a new subscriber.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subbing!!! Almost done with the next video…about grinding fiberglass!!!

Awesome Vid Man !!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Lou, thank you!

Awesome video man, Lagoon really need to come to the party here , it is their reputation at stake and what the guys from Parlay and you are doing is awesome as it clearly is a design flaw that fortunately can be fixed, however complicated the process may be ..... hat off to you guys

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Paolo!!! Thanks for watching! Yeah the Parlay guys have made this all possible. Having them walk me through the whole complicated process has been a god sent!

Great job.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yay Cavu!!!! Love your channel!!!

Hello from Italy, we adore your drive!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Yay Italy, the land of amazing food...colin's girlfirend on makes some amazing food on Parlay!

Hey David, congratulations about your Chanel, you are doing really awesome! I think Parley inspire you a lot, actually not only you. A lot of people. It’s sad to see all these beautiful Lagoon models cracking like that and no support from the company. What a shame for them! Any ways! I’m exciting to see you and your family traveling on this boat! Keeping up!

@david_shih

Жыл бұрын

thanks gerald, parlay inspired me a ton...and they taught me even more. it's a bummer about the bulkheads, but without that issues i would have never had this epic life experience!

Great video David

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thx Clinton. Appreciate you. Let me know what you think of this weeks vid about us making the 3.8ft power boat.

Outstanding. Keep the vids comin man from 🇦🇺

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Will do...this week was really really hard. It's my 1st time doing 2 weeks of video in a row. It almost killed me, i havent slept in 30 hours and its only noon. It doesn't matter, i love this life--whatever it takes baby!

I like your editing style! ~New fan from Parlay

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Wow thanks! Fellow parlay fan too!

David, I live in Houston as well. Thanks for helping other Lagoon owners with the info they need! Saw you working on your boat next to Colin in the last episode of Parlay.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Houston! What part? We’re downtown and will be in Kemah once I….if I ever…. Get the boat back home! Ah yes, The Parlay episode where he caught me lurking in the shadows trying to copy all his cool mods! Can’t blame me man, the guys a genius when it comes to cats.

@siberia1409

2 жыл бұрын

@@david_shih Jersey Village. Take it easy man

Quality edit mate. 👍🏼🇦🇺

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Dude... You really are good this!

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks richard, I know you’ve been following since the beginning-really appreciate that!

Great filming editing and storytelling.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

thx Andrew.

that was great and i wish you all the best.

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks eilam! hope you stay for all the repair videos coming soon.

Parlay revival. Good job bro

Awesome video !

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Jorge!!! Thanks man!!

Come over from parlay, love your energy David 👍

@david_shih

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Neil! Many many more videos too come. Been swamped with all the crazy boat work the past few weeks!

Personally, if I were a Lagoon owner, of any size, I would checking the bulkheads.