BLIND TEST | $1899 vs $12000 😱 Circle Audio EVO 251 vs ELAM 251
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As someone who uses the EVO just about every day now - I will never go back. I often find myself removing plugins from my template because when I use the EVO, I just don’t need to do as much. Definitely makes the mixers job way easier too!
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
We love to hear that! Enjoy it in good health! 🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
Wow! The Evo has a more extended low end and high-end, which makes it feel larger and more fresh than the Elam. WOW, I was not anticipating this result. This is great.
@mixbustv
24 күн бұрын
Exactly! 🙌
My EVO is absolutely amazing.
David used my personal ELAM for both shoot out videos-- the EVO is what stays up in my studio now 😎 💛 to all my guys: David, Keith, and Langston! #mixwiththebastards
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
Right on brother! #mixwiththebastardscrew
I actually like the Circle better. The differences probably wouldn't make a difference in the mix like you said but I liked the detail of the evo
The Evo sounded better to me, just generally bigger sounding.
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Audio IQ on 💯!!
Awesome video David! This was fun and OMG Bella looks 🤩🤩 and sound like an angel as always! Both mics sound great but this is a no brainer, Evo for sure the price difference is crazy
Great test David! And this is why you're the best out here.
I watched the whole thing, they are so close I did prefer the evo in the blind test but I couldn't pick which one was which
Bella sold me on A. Not enough difference to warrant the high $$$.
the elm sounds like it has a lil 4k harness ,but that evo mic is a smash I like it better then the Elam
They definitely nailed the design - the EVO sounds almost indistinguishable from the original ELAM when it comes to tonal character. That alone should make choosing between the two an absolute no-brainer for anyone who's looking for that sound regardless of what logo's on the mic. :D
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Wow. Somebody just made a microphone company smile! Thank you! 🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
I liked B a lot better. More body and smoother in the top end. I don’t prefer the openness of the EVO. I Didn’t like a certain frequency area of the EVO around the high mids but that can be EQd. The 251 is so smooth on the top end but that price. Sheesh. I still think the EVO is great for the price. Would be cool to compare it to the Telefunken TF51. I think an Eden is a great choice for a high end tube mic as well. Edit: just heard the rap part and I preferred the EVO on that
This fooled me definitely EVO for the win
I picked A, I didn't know which one it was. Bella you're gorgeous!!
I’ve personally had both the Evo and Elam in my room and I chose the Evo. The elam has a slight 200 build up that the evo does not. Also the evo is less compressed in the upper mids. I highly recommend. I won’t be buying an Elam ever lol
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
If anyone has put the EVO 251 through its paces, it is YOU! Thank you for all the support AND diligence! Means the world to us! 🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
I don't hear an $8,000 USD difference. Honestly you better off getting the EVO and buying an SSL channel strip 🔥🔥🔥
I prefer the A. Let's see which one it is! Cool, it's the evo. I like it. It has a more detailed sound. However, i heard more noise in the A.
I already have a few preamps in mind for that evo. Beautiful mic man. Amazing detail
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Thank you!! We're ready to make your preamps sound amazing... 😉
They sound so similar its scary
Amazing mic, did a shootout with a vintage 251 and the EVO sounds like how an ideal and perfected Elam 251 would sound like. Took my vocal chain to a whole new level when compared to my Neumann U87.
@Lukas-wx9gx
11 күн бұрын
thinking of getting the evo to replace my u87ai. Do you think its worth it for recoring rap/rnb vocals only?
@gabrielr4329
11 күн бұрын
@@Lukas-wx9gx my singing style is more melodic and not R&B or Hiphop, I love the sound of it. It’s like the 251 but super clear and slightly compressed. The biggest thing you’ll notice is that the u87 has a fizz to it, this has a fuller sound without sounding retro.
I had chosen A because the audio sounded more open in the high end. I was surprised it was the Evo.
I liked Mic A and I was glad it was the EVO ahah amazing mic!
The ELAM (at least on the guitar) sounds completely balanced, while the EVO immediately sticks out.
Incredible mic for sure, the 251 is one of my favs and I can actually afford one now ahah
B is better on midrange and highs. But who cares if you can't compare with the real deal? Also I've noticed that KZread compression affects sound very much!
A was the EVO???? Woooooow! I actually prefer its sound to the real ELAM... This is crazy! Have EVO done some awesome work, or should I throw my ears in the garbage?
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
No you definitely shouldn't because some of the greatest engineers in the world picked the Evo over the Elam.
A wins
Agreed it's an incredible microphone for this price. I noticed that the EVO is just a little bit brighter in the top-end but still smooth where the ELAM is even smoother and also sits slightly tighter in the mix. I'm sure that if you take 2 ELAMs from different decades you'll find some differences as well..
This sounds a lot better then ig on the phone
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Absolutely does! IG's degradation really does a disservice for anyone trying to listen critically!
Thanks for the comparison David! 👍 Actually I could already tell which mic it was in the blind test because of the noise floor. The manufacturers did a very good job with the EVO btw. 👌 Can I ask you, which tools you use to get rid of all the little smacking mouth noises from Bella? Because I sometimes have the same issue with some singers and looking for an optimal solution.
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
Indeed they did! I do it manually because I'm very very selective on which one to leave and which one to mute
I just ordered one 😁
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
Good choice!
I picked B, but A sounded similar. There's some resonance in the higher frequencies if Mic A that kinda gave it away. But a little eq and in the context of a mix, you could interchange them.
Great Video David! I actually lean towards Evo, however on Bellas and specially B Star recordings I heard weird artifacts, in upper midrange on it (Elam doesn't habe those). It sounds a little bit like audio after denoising, which is weird, cause those are raw files. I don't know if this buzzing can be a flow in the design, maybe there is some denoising element in the circuit, that would actually be rational due to this incredible low and stable noise floor. Nevertheless it sounds really really nice, full, open, doesn't get harsh and this issue I mentioned will probably be inaudible for most people. I work mostly in film post so I am very sensitive to things like this. Cheers!
@keithferris9574
Ай бұрын
I thought I was hearing something weird.
Evo sounds great. It might sound a little thinner post production though. Noise and saturation from more faithful vintage gear can add to the warmth and smoothness. Elam sounds warmer and more natural. Evo sounds more detailed probably due to the internals contributing to the lower noise. Im sticking with the Elam on this but that price tag is gnarly
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
I'll make the files available, I promise you you have to cut lows on the EVO, it definitely has more bottom
@tgholz1
Ай бұрын
@@mixbustv I'll check them out! Thanks for making top notch videos
Great Video! I found the main differences between the EVO and the ELAM was less saturation and extra details and dynamics on the EVO. I liked the EVO the best because of this! I own a JZ V12, which should have a similar capsule to the mics here. Would you expect the V12 to sound anywhere similar to these mics?
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
Hey Bengt, I do have a JZ V12 as well (as you probably know) and it's also a great mic. The difference is mostly in the top end. While they share the same "style" the JZ is gonna be a bit more hyped in the very top compared to the Evo which is a tad more open than the Elam but still smooth, with the V12 being clearly top heavy in a way and with less body/low end.
Very similar indeed! A is brighter, B has a fuller low end and less pronounced upper midrange. B sounds better to me, more of a finished sound... EDIT! on the rap the of mix sounded a tad boxy in comparison, really impressive
More Sibilance on the Evo 251 ..... due to the Upper Mid Boost .... Elam is more balanced .... and the Evo Recordings are all louder .... All said 8000$ more for the Elam 251 is crazy today ... the difference will allow you get some other great Studio gear like a Super Mic Pre and a Much better Audio Interface etc .... 🙂 Great Eye opening Test .... !!! Great Job !!!
I’d have to have both. I liked less top and more mids of the Elam, but some sources also benefit from the sweeter top end of the evo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yep I guessed that A was the EVO, largely because it has a touch more sparkle which is a common tweak added to newer variants of classic mic's. That said I am not so sure I like that trend because sometimes the flatter mics take eq a bit better. EVO sounds lovely though. Market is thick with 47 and 251 clones, a great thing for us recordists!
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Hi William! We actually pride ourselves on the fact that the EVO 251 is not a clone. We also didn't add any EQ boost whatsoever to our mic circuit (The ELA M has a boost at 10Khz). Where the brightness/openness is coming from in the EVO is the fact that our transformers don't roll off until 65KhZ, leaving no need for any additional EQ. The result, a richer, more open and natural top end. These mics take EQ beautifully, but the nice thing is, they generally don't need much to sound finished!
With good headphones I can hear the difference. The Evo is brighter. The Elam has smoother mids and highs. Still prefer the Elam but the price difference is insane.
Amazing. Would the evo work well on a cello? Thanks
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Actually, EXTREMELY well! Like.... Mind-blowingly well. 🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
For sure
@adsertheblade
Ай бұрын
@@CircleAudio Ok, Ok, i get , and I got one 😀
Waoo A on vocals just a bit my licking when switching B to A , B sound more smooth, A a bit more aggressive the rest I can’t tell the difference between the guitar
@ramonfelizjr
9 күн бұрын
NEXT = EVO VS C800G = ??? Evo has more lower frequency then the 251 and very nice AIR , I am guessing Ken Lewis vocal chain = Groove Tube Vipre + C800G + KUSH CLARIPHONIC which make the Sony sounds nice on the high end = Groove Tube Vipre + EVO ( NO EQ ) = Will be great to heard the difference .
Il prefer the B. But maybe the A is more natural sounding...
I'd keep the cheap one but reach for EQ...
i just bought it and its in the mail, is there any converters I need to buy to connect this to my interface? Please help!!!
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
No converters, your interface is a converter. Depending on what interface you have you might need a preamp. What interface do you have?
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
We appreciate you! 🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
For the female voice Picked B as the Elam A had a less pleasing high end and B body was more expensive that’s the word I could describe it as
The evo has the Chinese sound hyped highs, the Elam is smooth ,
@mixbustv
23 күн бұрын
"It has the Chinese sound". Made in USA lol gotta love the golden ears
@edgargonzales7696
21 күн бұрын
Agree Evo sounds good but don’t like the highs Elam is an Elam balanced great mids ,
Why is there a 12k mic 😵💫
@jaconova
Ай бұрын
Greed
@WeissAdvice
Ай бұрын
A vintage ELA M will go for around $25k if you can find one 😮
@troyarmstrong615
Ай бұрын
@@WeissAdvice these numbers hurt when you don't make top engineers money
@gabrielr4329
Ай бұрын
The EVO is $1,699, amazing deal for the price
The Elam has more body, the EVO is a little brighter.
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
EVO has a LOT more body than the Elam, if anything that's the giveaway
I'd like you guys to try a sleeper mic. The Sure KSM8 for only 400 bucks is pretty amazing. You might be very surprised. I use it through just a DBX 676 and everyone that's used it by me was pretty impressed. Because of the way it's designed, the vocalist doesn't have to worry so much about being in the exact position proximity of the mic too which helps capturing a lot smoother on volume.
A 12k mic? Greed is real people. Sure, you can say there are products oriented for the clueless/careless wealthy people who likes the exclusivity/elitist factor of owning one, but let's face it, at the end of the day, it is still GREED.
@mariodario9033
Ай бұрын
Gotye recorded his album partialy on iPhone and MB microphone :) Song is way more important than mic you will record it :) Cheers.
@KeithRossMusic
Ай бұрын
@@mariodario9033Actually, FYI: Gotye recorded his album on a Neumann M 147. Not a single lead vocal on any song was recorded on an iPhone or MacBook microphone.
@mariodario9033
Ай бұрын
@@KeithRossMusic Nope, you are wrong...On Pensado Place you have interview with mixer and he said that he get tracks recorded on laptop. Maybe some parts, but still some parts was recorded that way. I don't remember full details but remeber that WOW information.
To me sounds EVO sounds like a plugin vs. Real hardware
@sundin2799
Ай бұрын
Yeah
@jdubblk
Ай бұрын
Nope
@JaymeSilverstein
Ай бұрын
I’ve personally had both the Evo and Elam in my room and I chose the Evo. The elam has a slight 200 build up that the evo does not. Also the evo is less compressed in the upper mids. I highly recommend. I won’t be buying an Elam ever lol
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Those must be some damn good plugins! 😉🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
The blind test was useless, it should have been the same part through one and then the other. Couldn't tell if the difference was the mic or the delivery.
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
If you can't tell, the problem ain't the test 😄
@duncan.o-vic
Ай бұрын
@@mixbustv Yes, it is, because I can tell when you play the same sequence over and over. Shouting into mic A, and then whispering into mic B is useless.
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
Hi Duncan! Every example in this video had identical takes on both microphones. If you're interested in doing your own comparison, there should be a link here to download the files to hear for yourself... Hope that helps!
@duncan.o-vic
Ай бұрын
@@CircleAudio I'm not talking about takes, but how the blind A/B test was set up. Like I said already, I do hear the diference when playing the same part. I'm not here to bitch about the mic, it is close which is good enough for the price. My problem is with the test.
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
@@duncan.o-vic Gotcha. No worries, Guess everyone has their preferences. Nothing wrong with that. Would love to know your thoughts on the comparison after A/B'ing your way in the actual session! 🙌🏼🚀✨⭕
That kind of test say nothing, I mean thx for that comparison BUT... You can also check Rode NT1 (black one), sounds almost like U47...as dry signal. Rode has video on their YT channel. After you will compress, de-essing and compress again, and sooth and..and...and...after that you will hear the difference. That high value mic's are unpleasant, lifeless if recorded dry, but they give you a lot of way you can process vocal parts without sounding weird. Rode does not, after you will compress and do some other process your vocal will sound like shwiet. Neumann U87 is bright, but keeps that brightness in balance, that is why after all mix it still sound fantastic and clone Rode NT1 A (silver one) is terrible after multiple compression instances, because sibilants come out and kick your ears and drill your teeth. Thats why premium artist and studios still buy Tele 251 although the price is that high :) IMO on Bella voc with instrumental that is obvious that ELAM sounds more balanced, for me won the competition brutally...but it is my opinion, like back lower part - everyone has its own :)
@mixbustv
Ай бұрын
What you just wrote makes no sense but like you said, thanks for the comment 😄
@mariodario9033
Ай бұрын
@@mixbustv If you say so, then take any mic and you will be good to go, you don't even need to spend $1200 then, you can buy some $99 AT 2020 :)
@CircleAudio
Ай бұрын
@@mariodario9033 Glad you're happy with what you use, but just know, there are levels to this! No shade, just facts. 😉🙌🏼🚀✨⭕