Trying to answer a common question already popping up in the comments: NO, I have never said "don't use saturation or clippers on your 2bus" Just be aware of this, so it's easier to hear if you're overdoing and overcooking things with saturation, because certain types of (bad) distortion it's hard to hear if you don't have trained ears AND most importantly, a good monitoring system. That's it. Thank you all! BUY THE COURSES AT www.mixbustv.com/ CHECK THIS OUT ➡➡ shorturl.at/anrW7 USE THE SUPER THANKS IF YOU LIKED THIS VIDEO! 👆👆👆

@mateuszzawocki1405

3 ай бұрын

You can understand as more complex sound more distortion and unwanted noise which can be hard to handle. Sine wave is great example because of easy way to see a representation of harmonics added during saturation process.

@mixbustv

3 ай бұрын

@thisguy5611 the only thing not making sense it's stupid arguments over a simple example. Anyone with a brain who mixed for a week understands there's a difference between a mix and a sine wave, just like everyone with a brain understands there's also a difference between an 808 snare sample and a freaking piano. It's not hard, this is not the place where you try to look smart.

@acdnrg

3 ай бұрын

Honest question: If the newbie engineer can´t hear it without trained ears and a good monitoring system - most listeners won´t either. So why care? When does bad distortion really become relevant? On the other hand, distributing saturation/distortion across multiple sources gives a lot more of control, and that´s the bigger reason in my humble opinion.

@BigEarBerry

Ай бұрын

@@acdnrg I’ve thought about this before too. I think it comes down to records competing with each other. If you hear an overcooked mix on its own, it might just sound loud. But if you hear it next to a properly cooked mix that’s just as loud (or more likely louder because the mastering engineer could do more with it), then the overcooked mix sounds relatively gross.

@mollyoko

16 күн бұрын

@@acdnrg shit in shit out mentality.

looks like a UFC fighter, talks like a magician. Good stuff as always.

@larsvortue

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@onealforde7624

3 ай бұрын

Looool

@mixbustv

3 ай бұрын

😄

@justin.johnson

3 ай бұрын

At first we're like, who the F is this guy? Then we grow to LOVE David 😊

@GrisibagageSnnaa-qz6zw

3 ай бұрын

Think he can fight?

This is very eye opening. Using saturation on mixbus must be really really gentle

You're giving away all the good secrets David... The engineer police have been notified. lol

Perfectly showcased why it's more beneficial to saturate/clip in stages!

Wow, you did keep it short, but still, this is one of the most useful videos on KZread in regards to clipping/saturation.

the best audio/visual mix master teacher on the planet , never feel like theres a single second of filler in ur videos . rock out david

@mixbustv

3 ай бұрын

🙏

@iamjonklein

3 ай бұрын

Very true, there's no waiting, only learning - thanks!!!

Short and clear! Thank you for ALL your work David

It's the same reason that when using heavy distortion/fuzz on guitar using fewer or single notes and notes close to a simple ratio ( 2:3 :4 power chord or maybe 4:5 ish:6 major chord) sound better than eg minor chord ( 5:6 ish:15). The distortion creates sum and difference frequencies often much lower than the original sounds.

@adamsmith7058

3 ай бұрын

There's a few synths that compensate for that. Uhe's Repro 5 applies distortion at the per voice level and you can create some quite quite complex sonorities using this before everything turns sour. One of the iterations of Access Virus also did this, but if I remember correctly, it calculated a more consonant tuning for each chord. Although it's difficult to see how that would work practically without some latency.

I think this is one of the best videos on this subject I've came across. Simple, concise and really eye-opening. Thanks for this David.

This is a BRILLIANT way to show the difference in how processing individual tracks and busses can yield far better results (especially with Clippers) than just trying to do it ll on the mix or even the master buss. Well Done!!!

Eye opening! Looking forward to implementing this. Thank you

This is one hell of a fantastic video! Thank you so much!

Great video. Thanks so much for clearing this all up.

Oh wow, thanks so much! Love to learn more on the technical aspects of mixing!

Awesome video. Thank you!

Always the best! Thank you Dave 👌👌

That's a big difference. Great video.‼

Beautiful info and video as always!

Thank you for this information…such an excellent example of the difference. 😎👍🏻

These short form illustrative videos are some of the most helpful I've seen on audio engineering topics. Nice work, and thanks a lot.

Wow, this was an eye opener. Thanks David

This reminds me of finding out that certain intervals on guitar thru a valve amp can give very bizarre sounds. This makes so much sense now. Lesson learned, thanks!

Such a clear and demonstrative explanation of the topic. I’ve noticed that clipping at mix bus stage definitely tends to create more unpleasant distortion than trying at the instrument bus level. Now I understand why on the analytical level. Thank you so much 🙏🏽

Man! Excellent video. That was enlightening. Thank you!

Thank you so much David, this was definitely eye opening! Going to change my workflow.

Thankyou so much for this video very helpful!!

Brilliant video. This teaches so many lessons in one simple example. Thanks

Eye opening, for sure. Thank you for the info.

Another great video. Appreciate the immense value you offer for free through your content!

awesome explanation. thanks.

This was highly informative thank you 🤘💀🍻🔥🙏

We need this cause alot of people just throwing clippers on everything now

@Firetracks

3 ай бұрын

Facts!

Always appreciated !!!

Nice video. Usually do 0.5db to max 1.5db clipping when on the master bus/2 bus. Sometimes no clipping at all here if done methodically on individual tracks and buses.

Thanks David for this video. I would say eye opener but it's more an ear opener. Good to both see and hear what the difference is.

Always on point 🔝

Great tip! Makes a lot of sense.

This channel is amazing.

THIS IS AMAZING!!! Learning by example and all to the point. Very very good.

Wow I never thought of this. It makes perfect sense, thanks for opening my eyes!!

Now... this is a really eye-opener video! Thanks a lot!!!

Fantastic video as always ❤

This is a great video that we should ALL be aware of. There is a fine line for clipping, saturating, limiting and even compressing on the master / 2bus. good to always get more and more minimal as you get higher up the signal flow. On tracks I go ham and cut and clean as much as I can, but on groups and what not I try to take a more relaxed approach. Its like trying to hear for candy or what sounds like its "in key" when adding saturation to groups and trying to keep things "In key" when clipping groups.

@WillLawrenceUK

3 ай бұрын

"good to always get more and more minimal as you get higher up the signal flow" - that's the sentence right there!

great video man, really good teaching moment!!

Unbelievably eye opening. Thank you so much for making the world a better place!!!!!

To the point, indeed! Thank you for this one. Aptly explained!

This is a wonderful revelation. It is causing me to completely re-think the placement and use of saturation tools in the mixing process.

Hands down of the most important information that I have come accross. Thanks a ton for this David.

eye opening. thank you

Hey Dave simple but helpful!

Wow, excellent video David 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Great video. David is the man.

Thanks man, I've been engineering, mixing and mastering since the 90s and seldom learn anything on KZread that I hadn't already figured out yet I learn from you from time to time and enjoy listening to someone who thinks like me and knows his shit. You are definitely the best out here. Thanks and keep it up brother.

@mixbustv

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Awesome demonstration of a this principle

Wow! You really taught me something today. Great Job!

Nice one ... Thank you

Wow! Huge difference. Pure gold.

THANK YOU!

THX David Like always precious

Excellent demo 👍🏻.

Maybe my favorite channel... Always good stuff here. Thx buddy. Greets from belgium 🇧🇪

thank you

In the engineering world, “good” or “bad” is very much subjective. At the end of the day, science aside, a good sound is all that matters. Proper monitoring, converters, and ear training will reveal problems in the mix. What I don’t like however is how this guy responds to comments that disagree with him. Rude and petty comebacks don’t make for the most respectful space. Not to mention, YOU’RE the content creator and the professional here, so act like one and take the high road when responding to viewers.

Thank you so much 🙏🏽

Awesome video man! Again, best channel on the planet

Very good explanation!! I have a lot of problems just when using vintage emulations, which already implement a lot of saturation. For me, it's very difficult to know if I'm overdoing it until I finish the mix.

Great topic!!!

All ways Dope Brother Ty!

I was just having a problem with two synths I was trying to layer with distortion, I think this could be the problem! Thanks for sharing.

Wow! Huge Difference, This Is An Amazing Video Thanks!

Wow, masterful video!

Wow that's actually crazy. Great experiment!

this kind of videos i love.... on the point ... exact ...

Much appreciated dear david

Really good example, thank you. I tend to mix this way as much as possible already, just because it seemed like a good idea, but it's nice to see and hear concrete examples of what kind of difference it makes. It is so much better to be sure of what you're doing and why. I think even if this video got into a more technical explanation of intermodulation, the best way to start such a breakdown would be with this kind of simple example, to make it absolutely clear WHAT phenomena we're trying to understand. Some tutorials get way too technical before the audience has any idea where its all going, and it makes learning fundamentally harder to anyone who isn't already pretty familiar with the subject

Best educative video ive seen in a long time. Thank you so much!

Great video!

A superb lesson, David; clear and simple. Plus it's always good when I find out I've been adopting the right approach without knowing it. It didn't make sense to me in a mixing scenario to add a clipper to the 2bus when I had the opportunity to sort out any issues before they got there. Besides, it just sounded better! Now I know why! 😂

As usual David gives us great information. 🎉

Great video Dave! Can you please do a new studio/rack tour? You have a ton of new things now!

@trashunicorn2308

3 ай бұрын

+1 for the gear tour

@aleksamrkela831

3 ай бұрын

+2 for the studio tour! Also a tour of the Bunker Recording Studios!

@mixbustv

3 ай бұрын

I'll make it happen

Amazing video! Never thought about the technical side just felt like each track especially drums would benefit from it own clipping since they have different peaks & I could monitor the change in sound. This takes my theory to the next level 💯

Increible. Gracias por el aporte!

Thanks, that helped me, I always had the feeling that something sounded distorted somewhere. That made me really aggressive because I didn't know where it was coming from. It was especially distorting on the sub-bass track, but that's gone now.

Amazing!!!! Thanks for this, this explains the hassles I had with Saturation Plugins on my Master Bus, I thought the plugins are bad and stop using them

Very elegantly illustrated.👍

Very helpful. It proofs what experienced mixers thought anyway.

Very interesting, thanks

I have heard from others too that these kind of processes work better on individual elements or even groups rather than on an entire mix (and by extension the master). If nothing else, those kind of processes can help bring a distinct character to that element and in turn will also help bring cohesion for the entire mix. And a lot of time, that’s all that is needed. An additional thought: I’ve found that you have to be careful when applying additional character to an overall mix. Now, it helps to have some kind of intent behind it. But also, you have to be aware of what it is doing and make adjustments accordingly. For instance, tape-based saturation will have a frequency bias depending on its formula. If you want to use say Type I, which leans toward the low-end, be aware that the low-end will be emphasised more than you probably think. At any rate, good job sir in making the point simply. Let the rage talk commence 😁

I did not know this. Thank you.

Thank you very much!

@mixbustv

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the support!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. This is pure gold!

Oh my god that just opened my eyes to so many things

Thank you for showing this, I had some mixes I didn't use saturation on tracks, and in laziness on my master, and when I hear some old mixes I made the same mistake. And the last mix sounded fine until I started pushing loudness. Actually it's complete logical but sometimes you need a demonstration!

Very helpful 🙏🙏

good information

That's really eye opening to be honest! Cheers

Cool! thanks!

This is gold. I assume a similar principle would apply to analog color boxes (542s, HG2, SSL Fusion)? Of course, there's the caveat that they're more forgiving when it comes to saturation.

@musicman8942

3 ай бұрын

I would say that yes it would apply to color boxes/plugins as well. But analog hardware? Not so much for the same reason analog summing is more forgiving of signal input.

@aleksamrkela831

3 ай бұрын

@@musicman8942 Thought as much!

Thank You 💯