Bitcoin Q&A: Are Hardware Wallets Secure Enough?

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Are hardware wallets really secure enough? Is the complexity of the setup and execution part of the risk model? What are the most likely ways that you will lose your bitcoin? What is the best way to store your mnemonic seed and passphrase?
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0:00 What is the gold standard for storing crypto, for non-technical people? Is a hardware wallet good enough? If my crypto has been on my hardware wallet for a year, is it more or less likely to be hacked over time?
1:50 There is no gold standard that applies for everyone
5:00 What can you do that is practical?
9:35 Pushing people to overextend their technical skill
10:42 We have an intermediate level that people can use
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  • @Belowtheradars
    @Belowtheradars5 жыл бұрын

    You, dear Sir, are the Buddha of Cryptocurrencies.

  • @guggnermalhii

    @guggnermalhii

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amitofo and Amen to that

  • @pj6299

    @pj6299

    17 күн бұрын

    Buddha? 🤣

  • @SuperWarriorPoet
    @SuperWarriorPoet5 жыл бұрын

    Perfectly answered, what a legend

  • @jorjiang1
    @jorjiang15 жыл бұрын

    i repeat that 24 words silently in my mind every night before i go to sleep

  • @cryptocap3383

    @cryptocap3383

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great if u don't to have heirs!

  • @vakeone

    @vakeone

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's actually a bad idea to memorize all 24 words. If someone kidnaps you, they can torture you for those words. You can't give it up if you don't know them. That's also why I don't keep my hardware wallet where I live.

  • @coromboshan1212hh5

    @coromboshan1212hh5

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sleep talking the seed is also a potential risk

  • @StakedWealth369

    @StakedWealth369

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just get yourself Bitfi

  • @cacoolkid1

    @cacoolkid1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Я не знаю как говорить по-русски Not if you announce it publicly in KZread comments lol

  • @mulimotola44
    @mulimotola445 жыл бұрын

    More important to have more than one wallet (more than one seed), each one backed up in different locations. So even if the worst happens, u never lose all your coins.

  • @GovernYourself
    @GovernYourself5 жыл бұрын

    Always great to have the basics reinforced, thank you Andreas for all that you do for crypto!

  • @dj1jesus375
    @dj1jesus3752 жыл бұрын

    Short answer: Yes! (11:35) It's worth watching the whole video though.

  • @MrHowzaa
    @MrHowzaa5 жыл бұрын

    The biggest threat to having crypto are big mouths. as in rich people who own expensive artworks and like to show it off so can bragging about how many bitcoins you own can get you a visit from not so savory characters.

  • @cramsa

    @cramsa

    Жыл бұрын

    yup... it's like telling them you have expensive jewlry etc at home... just stay humble and stack sats and keep quite.

  • @frustratedmajority851
    @frustratedmajority851 Жыл бұрын

    For me, it's a trezor model T with the passphrase feature enabled. The passphrase just protects me in case someone managed to stumble upon my 12 word mnemonic. 12 words instead of 24 because I can effortlessly memorize them, and even though the 12 word mnemonic is only 128 bits of entropy... according to several entropy calculators, my passphrase bumps up my total entropy to 298 bits. Add two backup Trezor One's to the mix for redundancy and that's about as secure as I ever care to have

  • @velezmusic4350

    @velezmusic4350

    25 күн бұрын

    When you say backup - you mean each subsequent Trezor also was set up with the same wallet ? Your system seems comprehensive but simple I like it. Thank you

  • @rjmiller2553
    @rjmiller25535 жыл бұрын

    Gratitude for everything you have contributed to Bitcoin awareness and educationa over the years.

  • @morehumanity
    @morehumanity5 жыл бұрын

    Seen this topic covered in many of your longer videos/lectures, but this video is really great as a standalone.

  • @gavinbrinck
    @gavinbrinck28 күн бұрын

    thanks Andreas ! You have been my greatest Bitcoin guru since 2014. bless !

  • @bhushanstake3788
    @bhushanstake37885 жыл бұрын

    Perfectly perfect....experience, knowledge, Skills all together at one place...thanks

  • @StakedWealth369
    @StakedWealth3695 жыл бұрын

    430 stainless steel sheet and metal punch set for stamping the phrase is perfect against corrosion or fire.

  • @EntropyBeater

    @EntropyBeater

    5 жыл бұрын

    And make sure the embossed side is covered by another stainless steel sheet and store it in tempered-evident sealed envelope, to prevent people 'feel' the emboss without opening the envelope.

  • @TheHonestFoodTeller

    @TheHonestFoodTeller

    4 жыл бұрын

    Плюс гумена боя отгоре и сигурна парола (passphrase)

  • @GaiasFleas
    @GaiasFleas5 жыл бұрын

    This is great. Thanks Andreas for your great work in the space!

  • @christine2027
    @christine20275 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Andreas! I was just wanting this question answered! You’re answer makes perfect sense and is exactly what I am going to do!!

  • @NinoGuariscoJR
    @NinoGuariscoJR5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for all you! You’re helping thousands of us.

  • @scorch4299
    @scorch4299 Жыл бұрын

    I suggest you pick a day of the year to check on your backups...make sure theyre still there, undamaged, you still remember everything. This is something practical you can do, once per year to ensure its safety. Also, make sure you have a method of passing on in the event of your death, if thats important to you.

  • @TalesFromTheBooth
    @TalesFromTheBooth5 жыл бұрын

    The teacher has spoken!

  • @citadelgang9171
    @citadelgang91714 жыл бұрын

    thank you Andreas! And thanks to Adam Meister for bringing me here!

  • @casuarinagirl8067
    @casuarinagirl80675 жыл бұрын

    Perfection - doing all of this already and did this right from day 1 (even with my tiny amount of crypto) - if I didn't want to lose this amount in a wallet or bank account then I felt I needed to protect it here in this space, and I have one of the copies in a fireproof, waterproof lockbox that only my trusted people know about in case something happens to me! No regrets in the worst case scenario of any type.

  • @bitfinger
    @bitfinger5 жыл бұрын

    simplicity is the hallmark of genius

  • @YnotHro
    @YnotHro5 жыл бұрын

    Ty for increasing the volume on your videos.

  • @cryptocap3383
    @cryptocap33835 жыл бұрын

    Every single crypto investor needs to see this

  • @mikemcdonald3585
    @mikemcdonald35853 жыл бұрын

    Great questions and answered, liked the one about whether security lessens over time. I have a tendency to think i need to keep doing something to preserve security.

  • @cryptob4bc983
    @cryptob4bc9835 жыл бұрын

    Your Wealth of Knowledge Is Amazing! Thank You.

  • @ronatola
    @ronatola3 жыл бұрын

    Perfect statement @1:00 - @1:45

  • @MawaMaverick
    @MawaMaverick4 жыл бұрын

    The last part was cool. Nice one. Thanks

  • @PaulTheadra
    @PaulTheadra3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the explanation, I have the hardest time explaining to others levels of security one would use

  • @Circumnavigate
    @Circumnavigate5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Andreas !

  • @Jay-yy5rp
    @Jay-yy5rp5 жыл бұрын

    Great answer

  • @topsecret1433
    @topsecret14335 жыл бұрын

    Excellent advice. Thanks Andreas!

  • @davearthur8656
    @davearthur86562 жыл бұрын

    Great content. Thanks for breaking it all down for us.

  • @hnccoin2021
    @hnccoin20215 жыл бұрын

    Great answer Andreas !!

  • @jonathancampbell9539
    @jonathancampbell95393 жыл бұрын

    Concise nonbiased information

  • @lilbean_eth
    @lilbean_eth2 жыл бұрын

    As always, AA has the answer. Thank you.

  • @Decentralized_World1
    @Decentralized_World13 жыл бұрын

    Wise words from a wise man. Andreas always makes me feel better about owning crypto

  • @felixgorrindo7471
    @felixgorrindo74715 жыл бұрын

    You are the man Andreas

  • @thebitfi9472
    @thebitfi94725 жыл бұрын

    Very well said, Andreas.

  • @banzobeans
    @banzobeans5 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful response

  • @vagabon327
    @vagabon3275 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Andreas!

  • @LanguageUnlimited
    @LanguageUnlimited3 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff as always. Legend!

  • @sango73
    @sango735 жыл бұрын

    I do appreciate a lot your content Andreas. Thank you a lot ! BUT PLEASE FIX YOUR MIC / audio is oversaturated and not crystal clear...

  • @cryptomaniac3327
    @cryptomaniac33274 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant answer

  • @johnnys2714
    @johnnys27145 жыл бұрын

    Really well stated, well done 👍

  • @CanesFan65
    @CanesFan655 жыл бұрын

    THANKS YOU for addressing this issue. I had the exact same question/complaint about Trace's assessment. I thought Trace's opinion was WAY TOO COMPLEX for the AVERAGE person and that he was being quite pompous to not address how THE AVERAGE PERSON should handle security. While it is OBVIOUS that it will differ depending on the level of expertise - Trace makes it should as though - his suggestion was the only suggestion and if you don't use that COMPLEXITY - you are at risk. I agree with you 100%. You are AT RISK if you don't understand how YOU can best secure YOUR keys. Simply put - If you try to do something you don't understand - You are at GREATER RISK.

  • @cramsa
    @cramsa Жыл бұрын

    Even a bitcoin core dev messed himself up putting his seed phrases in an internet connected device but he thought he was safe because he encrypted it in a file BUT he put his password manager on the cloud or something like that and the attackers got to it…. Your keys in an hardware wallet with updated firmware IS SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER than some crazy setup some of these “experts” suggest.

  • @eyemallears2647
    @eyemallears26475 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @fracsorg
    @fracsorg5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andreas, great answer. Thank you ! Did you manually edit the google subtitles? Some words have been added in square brackets like "Ledger" becomes "Ledger [Hardware Wallet]". Some things have been removed like "Umm so here's the thing." --> "Here's the thing:" and phrases changed. "The different audiences, different groups of people are going to have different risk models and they're also going to have difference ahh tolerances for technical complexity" --> "Different groups of people will have different risk models and tolerance for technical complexity". Just curious as to whether you uploaded the subtitle script, or whether google AI made the modified script from the audio.

  • @aantonop

    @aantonop

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have subtitles manually edited, yes. The subtitles that KZread auto-generates are usually awful.

  • @palipalik2011
    @palipalik2011 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect advice! Thanks!

  • @goodvibes9821
    @goodvibes98215 жыл бұрын

    love this guy

  • @stevesmith4166
    @stevesmith41664 жыл бұрын

    Morning Andreas. I have an absolute noob question. I have EOS accounts, and over the last few months started looking at Bitcoin. I seem to be confused whereby Bitcoin keys seem to be different to EOS accounts. In short, I bought a ledger to hold cold storage, but am unsure how it works. I have set it up with recovery seed etc, and then installed the Bitcoin APP, but am hesitant because I have not associated any private keys to it. Am I merely being a numpty? Are the keys already in it? Can I just send my exchange based BTC to it now? I feel this is probably far simpler than I imagine it. Chuck me a bone please LOL

  • @joemorgese
    @joemorgese3 жыл бұрын

    Thx

  • @ncflg7667
    @ncflg76675 жыл бұрын

    Isn't there also the risk that Trezor or Ledger releases a malicious firmware update?

  • @cxMLG

    @cxMLG

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, the only insurance is us knowing the owners of trezor/ledger.

  • @Tapepusher

    @Tapepusher

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is such a shame that you'd be dependant on that. We'll get to trustless eventually as it should be, but it's lots of hard work and time.

  • @Sadrx

    @Sadrx

    3 жыл бұрын

    No. Updates are open source. You can review the update yourself or lean on the technical expertise of the entire bitcoin community to review the firmware updates.

  • @TheCryptocurrencyPortal
    @TheCryptocurrencyPortal5 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel!

  • @user-dn5bx2iu3e
    @user-dn5bx2iu3e2 жыл бұрын

    And telling the truth gets you a sub.

  • @cebas7
    @cebas76 ай бұрын

    I smiled like an idiot with your explanation, you explain it BRILLIANTLY! THANK YOU!!!!

  • @billyjean9484
    @billyjean94849 ай бұрын

    No. Ledger taught us (by accident) that they easily have access to our private keys. They originally swore that it was impossible.

  • @pomp4401

    @pomp4401

    Ай бұрын

    Delusional

  • @billyjean9484

    @billyjean9484

    Ай бұрын

    @pomp4401 only multi sig using different hardware wallets will survive.

  • @taxxxiddriver
    @taxxxiddriver Жыл бұрын

    Excellent advices.

  • @ChiefEngineeringOfficer
    @ChiefEngineeringOfficer3 жыл бұрын

    how secure is a bluetooth hardware wallet like this nano x for example?

  • @danmatiesanu6823
    @danmatiesanu68233 жыл бұрын

    What the hell is that 4-6 pass phrase that goes t protect the seed? How do you create that?

  • @jpp59
    @jpp595 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation. Even high technical and professionals fucked up. Look at what happened to quadrigacx. The ceo died and he was the only one who knew how to retrieve fund from their cold storage, 190millions usd lost... Keep it simple and make sure your siblings knows how to retrieve the funds when you are gone.

  • @MatCendana

    @MatCendana

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for mentioning this here. I did a search and found out this is very new. cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-exchange-quadrigacx-missing-145-mln-after-death-of-founder

  • @whyask8044

    @whyask8044

    5 жыл бұрын

    stop saying he died. he stole the money and ran away.

  • @MatCendana

    @MatCendana

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@whyask8044 Based on the latest reports, that reported 'death' is very suspicious. At that very young age (like this is the Middle Ages), and dying in India where certificates aren't too difficult to obtain. Then him being the only one who has access to the private keys, which isn't the norm when it concerns exchanges' cryptos. On the other hand he had been very thorough making plans for his family. I suspect the wife is likely also a conspirator. Maybe others at the exchange too. Looks like an exit scam with scumbags running off with customers' fund.

  • @b.griffin317

    @b.griffin317

    5 жыл бұрын

    if it's a scam, wouldn't it be obvious if those addresses start getting drained at some point?

  • @Metacognition88
    @Metacognition882 жыл бұрын

    Hands up!

  • @JuanRodriguez-km9hl
    @JuanRodriguez-km9hl3 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @lourdusamy5232
    @lourdusamy5232 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent project

  • @InvestimentosDigitais
    @InvestimentosDigitais2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect

  • @josepareraspintopereira7416
    @josepareraspintopereira74166 ай бұрын

    Otimista

  • @reshmab1226
    @reshmab12264 жыл бұрын

    Wow... Great vid

  • @batsmasherbatsmasher3177
    @batsmasherbatsmasher31775 жыл бұрын

    where can i download the Unobatinuim Linux distro ?

  • @TrichsRUs
    @TrichsRUs5 жыл бұрын

    I have ledger and don’t recall being given an additional “pass phrase” with my 24 word seed.

  • @cryptoinsider9305

    @cryptoinsider9305

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a Valid Question. How do we get the Pass Phrase?

  • @susmitasinha019

    @susmitasinha019

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are not GIVEN a passphrase but you have to choose one on top of the seed phrase that's generated by the hardware wallet. Seed phrase alone = access to a set of addresses & corresponding private keys of a hierarchical deterministic wallet. Seed phrase + passphrase = access to a completely different set of addresses & corresponding private keys of another hierarchical deterministic wallet.

  • @cryptoinsider9305

    @cryptoinsider9305

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@susmitasinha019 Thank you for the explaination, I have more understanding now.

  • @RL-hh2tb

    @RL-hh2tb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@susmitasinha019 so where are you prompted for the passphrase? Will the ledger device for instance, prompt you? Thank you

  • @nion456789
    @nion4567895 жыл бұрын

    Smashed the like

  • @martinkirov3762
    @martinkirov37625 жыл бұрын

    Andreas for Secretary of the Treasury!!!

  • @horrificpleasantry9474
    @horrificpleasantry94743 жыл бұрын

    Kraken directs users directly to this video for an explanation of why they're not a wallet service and why we should consider a 'hardware wallet.' I haven't watched the video yet. I've been learning about crypto for less than a week, and here to learn. Just thought someone might appreciate knowing.

  • @kotgc7987
    @kotgc79873 жыл бұрын

    Is there a list or diagram on these processes please? After all this is setup, I'm just a noob who would like easy day to day fruit juice purchases, with my savings safe.

  • @TheHonestFoodTeller
    @TheHonestFoodTeller4 жыл бұрын

    Polymer paper + lamination + tamper proofing.

  • @ipconfigearth102
    @ipconfigearth1023 жыл бұрын

    How to verify a file signature of the trezor bridge?

  • @islandbee
    @islandbee5 жыл бұрын

    AA, is there a technical analysis tool that is used to find that "sweet spot" for individuals or enterprises? Would they use something like a SWOT analysis to assess an optimal solution?

  • @michael4383

    @michael4383

    5 жыл бұрын

    why people always overcomplicate things? you have a hardware wallet? thats fine.

  • @islandbee

    @islandbee

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@michael4383 - Falco, because humans are complicated. And I don't have a HW wallet. Rock me Amedeus!

  • @napoleon2564

    @napoleon2564

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you have less than 100 btc a trezor is fine.

  • @islandbee

    @islandbee

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@napoleon2564 - In my hometown, there was a flyer posted up for a $500 reward from someone who lost their Trezor out in the streets. This tells me that that there needs to be more training and guidance when it comes to storing and managing cryptos. Feel bad for the guy. Yikes! 😱

  • @napoleon2564

    @napoleon2564

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@islandbee thats kinda dumb. If you have the paper backup you can just sweep the funds into a hot wallet and send them to a new trezor. They're like $80.

  • @thingsthatmake
    @thingsthatmake2 жыл бұрын

    How would one add a passphrase to ledger nano? There is only option for a pin on the device? Would be great to do this since the 24 words might be guessed by some random person wanting to win the crypto lottery?

  • @thingsthatmake

    @thingsthatmake

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok, now I see that the 24 words are chosen from a large list of 2048 words, so odds are astronomical. However, if someone figured out how the wallets create the seeds in the first place (if not totally random) then they could work backwards to re-create them from there... Hmm.. I guess the passphrase is a good idea.. maybe later I can get to it.

  • @andrewgregor3692
    @andrewgregor36925 жыл бұрын

    Simple you use the Blue Protocol wallet way way better than a trezor or ledger and has additional security features no other wallet has , basically the most secure wallet presently available

  • @AGCRetrogaming
    @AGCRetrogaming2 жыл бұрын

    The most of the hard wallet the brands say even if the hard wallet is damaged or lost for some how you can restore your wallet with the passphrase in any other hard wallet. So if that's the true, my question still in place how hard wallet still secure enough? How still secure against brutal force trail and error to find out my private key?

  • @IRONBBB
    @IRONBBB2 жыл бұрын

    Crypto Legend

  • @sukandalangley3734
    @sukandalangley37345 жыл бұрын

    lolol me all day... def an intermediary in storage techniques and many times have I put my hands up and left it on Coinbase lol

  • @MawaMaverick
    @MawaMaverick4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Andreas thanks for this. Is it safe to use online password managers like LastPass and Keeper security?

  • @MatejKesan
    @MatejKesan3 жыл бұрын

    Lol the ending!

  • @nurumusa9912
    @nurumusa99125 жыл бұрын

    i think the guy that ask the question probably wants to add complex security layer on top of what he has. this is dangerous as too much security without proper management is dangerous.

  • @anthonywayner8734
    @anthonywayner8734Ай бұрын

    Answer the question!!!!

  • @2_Maggy
    @2_Maggy3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, you are absolutely Genius, happen exactly to me I lost my crypto I don’t know even how I send but I didn’t receive on my wallet and no customer service from ledger nano x.

  • @climbers1376
    @climbers13765 жыл бұрын

    I love you

  • @arkad7633
    @arkad76335 жыл бұрын

    seeds in metal cards

  • @MrTno1TrickShot
    @MrTno1TrickShot Жыл бұрын

    What if the hardware wallet company goes bankrupt and you loose the hardware wallet but you have your seeds all save how can you get access to your cpbitcoin?

  • @marcusyeagle6523
    @marcusyeagle65235 жыл бұрын

    Know what you do not know

  • @banzobeans

    @banzobeans

    5 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaqKssayicjHgbg.html

  • @lakemckenzie
    @lakemckenzie5 жыл бұрын

    He talking about that sweet spot. Sounds like some good......... Nevermind.

  • @guitarflash2049
    @guitarflash20493 жыл бұрын

    sure this should be secure enough

  • @radvladdy
    @radvladdy5 жыл бұрын

    100% Security should be proportionate to amount at risk combined with your technical abilities. Use your brain. Think through possibilities.. Know features of hardware wallets available.

  • @bobjones9406
    @bobjones94063 жыл бұрын

    Memorize the seed?

  • @amyhoang9140
    @amyhoang91403 жыл бұрын

    Can the person who has the seeds gain access to your cryptos without the hard wallet if needed?

  • @aantonop

    @aantonop

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @amyhoang9140

    @amyhoang9140

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aantonop Great! Thanks. So this means I still can get my cryptos without my wallet (I actually lost my usb cable to trezor one and have not been able to find a compatable usb cable to use). Can you please explain how or do a video on this? It's my understanding that if you lost your wallet, you can only use the seeds to transfer cryptos into another same type of wallet. Is it true?

  • @Jack-ny7kn
    @Jack-ny7kn3 жыл бұрын

    What is he talking about by pass phrase? Like encrypting the 24 word seed???

  • @paulinthailand
    @paulinthailand4 жыл бұрын

    this has the best likes to dislike ratio i have ever seen

  • @philhellmuff
    @philhellmuff5 жыл бұрын

    I don't like paper. I wrote my backup on a thin metal sheet with a permanent marker. I made 3 of them and cut them in half so I got 6 pieces. I have 2 pieces. 1 at home and the other in a bank. The other 4 I gave to different family members.

  • @aantonop

    @aantonop

    5 жыл бұрын

    We do not recommend seed splitting schemes. If you really feel the need to do so, you should consider using a multi-signature setup instead. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIRr0qegctPHf5M.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXWElNdvp8KXXc4.html en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Seed_phrase

  • @32brookse
    @32brookse5 жыл бұрын

    The key reality is that most people simply will not take all of these extremely onerous steps of writing seeds and phrases on separate pieces of paper, in triplicate, to then store them in multiple locations, in order to protect their cryptocurrency. This whole process needs to be made much simpler or crypto will never achieve mass adoption. There must be a way to combine cryptographic protection with 2 factor authentication to so that there can be one electronic storage space to back up what the user also writes down and stores in their home, or another secure location.

  • @daireconnolly522

    @daireconnolly522

    Жыл бұрын

    There will be centralised bitcoin banks. I think it's a utopia to think everyone using bitcoin will do the above as stated. I think people will just use centralised bitcoin banks

  • @32brookse

    @32brookse

    Жыл бұрын

    I got my parents, who are in their 80s, to buy and store Bitcoin on an exchange, and even that was (and remains) a *huge* challenge. Trying to show them how to use a wallet and securely store seed phrases is unimaginable.

  • @daireconnolly522

    @daireconnolly522

    Жыл бұрын

    @@32brookse lol man the fact you got them to buy it is insane 😂 80 is next level. My parents in their 60s are at the same stage In 50 years time though basically everyone on earth will be technologically literal so there's that I guess I'm just currently researching if multisig is worthwhile like right now I just have Trezor on its own and I do have it well secured. Just in limbo about taking it to the next level and that includes getting a coldcard and what not too. When whatever economic apocalypse is coming I hope my Trezor is enough 😂

  • @rydmerlin
    @rydmerlin2 жыл бұрын

    You didn’t mention invisible ink ;-)

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