enjoyed listening to this bishop. I still identify as protestant but im starting to enjoy the process of growing and learning about the many aspects to our faith in Jesus.

@jediv3381

Жыл бұрын

*R Catholicism has nothing to do with God and His Words. R Catholic Church contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!* 1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10. 2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39. 3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47. 4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10. 5. Catholics say drink of the physical blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26. 6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19. 7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5. 8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians. 9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18. 10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”. 11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10. 12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10. 13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6. 14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it. 15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.

@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR

4 ай бұрын

Yawn .... Such boring and over tired protestant takes. You've got to pervert everything the church says to come to the conclusions you did, but that's to be expected since you've got no magisterium.

@AlbertMagnvs

4 ай бұрын

Hey Ethanjsc, three years later, do you still identify as a protestant?

@AlbertMagnvs

4 ай бұрын

​@@jediv3381Like the Devil when he tempted Our Lord in the desert, you're a heretic perverting Sacred Scripture.

@ethanjsc

4 ай бұрын

@@AlbertMagnvs AS of now, I still do, thanks for the follow up Albert

Bishop Barron offers a very fair and nuanced perspective of Luther here. It speaks to Barron's scholarship and integrity that he presents this objective picture of a man whom many other Catholics would be quick to simply dismiss without consideration.

@Awakeningspirit20

Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of liberal Catholics like myself or even nonpracticing ones who see him as a hero. There is a pretty thin line between us and Lutherans and, given the politically-motivated purge of left-wing Catholics in America right now by the American Church, many ultimately do become Lutheran. I have come to see Luther merely as a galvanized and militant version of St. Francis of Assisi, perhaps even someone God used to punish the Catholic Church for its blatant hypocrisy and evil during the 1500s and before then. Both were told or felt they needed to reform the Church. Francis did beautiful things but did not succeed on such a grand scale... Luther ended up creating the modern world due to proclaiming a hyper-charged version of that message at a time when technology and politics could carry the message to devastating and seemingly irreparable consequences. God in the Old Testament put his people through similar events and timespans of disarray and disunity to correct them, so it's no wonder he would use someone like Luther. Luther is a hero and I hope he is in paradise.

I am an evangelical Protestant and lover of Luther. I appreciate your irenic, fair spirit, and I enjoy listening to you.

@stanis8431

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the opportunity to allow me learn a new word - Irenic

@KarmaKraftttt

14 күн бұрын

Convert to Christianity instead

James also says in this passage, "Faith without works is useless" (2:20), "Faith is completed by works" (2:22) and "Faith without works is dead" (2:26). James also says, "See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone" (2:24). This is actually the only place in the Bible where the words faith and alone are found together, and it is saying that a person is not justified by faith alone. Martin Luther knew that the Bible did not support his theory of sola fide, so he actually tried to take the book of James out of the New Testament, as well as the books of Hebrews, Jude, and Revelations. He later added them back after receiving heat from his peers, but referred to the book of James as an "epistle of straw." He also added the word alone to Romans 3:28 in his translation of the Bible so that it would read that we are justified by our faith alone.

@keeroe2020

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Peter the "epistle of straw" according to Luther.

@jorgefrech6073

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you Mark. Luther could not be inspired by an encounter with God, because God does not contradict himself. We have the example of thousand of saints, really mystics, they never denied the teaching of the church nor its tradition.

@liljade53

6 жыл бұрын

How about 'we are not saved BY good works, but FOR good works'

@nathanamerman8613

5 жыл бұрын

Mark, I agree with the scriptures that you have quoted, however I think that Lutherans and Roman Catholics both have a misconception of each other. I don’t write this to start an argument or a dissension between us, and I will conform to your ideas if I cannot rebuke you. The New Revised Catholic Version of the Bible translates Romans 3:28 as such: “For we hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law.” If we are not being justified by the works prescribed by the law, what are we justified by? Luther translated this passage “By faith alone,” because it makes philosophical sense. Now, Lutherans in no way believe that works are not important. We know and hold fast that when the end comes, God will judge us according to every good and bad thing that we have done. Also, we believe that when one has faith in Jesus Christ, it creates good works. By the blessing of the Holy Spirit, we may finally produce good works according to the Law. Now, on the other hand, many Lutherans believe that Catholics believe that they are only saved by works. This is not certainly true, as we know. Correct me if I am wrong, for I don’t have that good of a memory, but I believe that during the Council of Trent, the Catholic Church stated: “Only those, by the grace of God, can do good works.” Of coarse, I am paraphrasing, but I think I expressed the main point. If anything, you could say that Catholics believe in something called “Grace Alone.” I hope that God blesses you, and that peace may forever be held within your heart. Amen.

@seanmarshall7529

5 жыл бұрын

paul justification through the grace of God lest we might gain the impression that we were able to do it!

I’m Lutheran and I enjoy watching your videos. I have understood that faith and works are sort of hand and hand. If you truly have faith in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, then good works can’t help but glow out of you. If you have no good works , then one must seriously question your faith in God. As Jesus said you can judge a tree by the fruit it bears.

@deneentorkelson6131

4 жыл бұрын

Me again, I meant to say “flow” out of you not glow.🤦‍♀️

@richardmay4640

4 жыл бұрын

@@deneentorkelson6131 Protestants and Catholics alike struggle with sin - they don't go around "not being able to help having good works flowing out of them".

@garyjaensch7143

4 жыл бұрын

Deneen Torkelson listen to Luther, here’s the proof , God says not by works lest Ye boast , pride is what God hates most as that was what caused Lucifer to fall, click on link. www.google.com.au/search?q=kjv+grace+through+faith&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

@gavinvangrinsven3402

4 жыл бұрын

Gary Jaensch Luther blasphemed

@garyjaensch7143

4 жыл бұрын

Gavin Grinny Paul when called Saul was killing people, persecuted Gods people,, I don’t know the meaning of your comment?

As our people lose faith in so many earthly institutions, the cause of Christian unity is more important than ever. Keep up the good work!

@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc

2 ай бұрын

Truth is essential. Unity is nice.

Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

@danielsmith5023

4 жыл бұрын

Well said , 👏

If it's any consolation, Bishop Barron's reflection on Luther is perhaps the most insightful I've heard of the heart of Protestantism, that obviously extending to Ryrie. As someone writing a sermon myself right now, it is entirely around the journey back into the Father's embrace. And how that moment of embrace, arguably the one Luther felt, changes everything. To find yourself in front of a loving and faithful Father and to know, in humility, that all I have to give Him was His in the first place, that I am alive and am able to be with Him in a meaningful way. With all due respect to call that heresy is to value the form of Catholicism with a subdued regard to the heart of the universal message of Christianity. That the criticism of the three Solas still doesn't mean empathy can't be extended to the heart of Luther's (let's call it, for lack of a better term) conversion. I think that is all Bishop is trying to say.

@BishopBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Pfuetz4 Bless you! You’re one of the very few on this forum who got my point.

@Pfuetz4

5 жыл бұрын

@@BishopBarron I appreciate your perspective! I'm not so I can fully articulate why I'm not a Catholic, but hearing someone finally empathize with what I consider the informing spirit/perspective/idea of my faith (without much explicit studying of Luther)--it's refreshing. I reckon you'll see many more honest protestants at your table with this message, for whatever that is worth!

My father was Norwegian Lutheran! My mother was Irish Catholic! Interesting upbringing. Went to Catholic Church but had father questioning RC church?!! Had lots of conversations and laughs I may say!! Thank goodness for Irish humour in our family!! 😂

As a Lutheran/Calvinist whose always believed that if you don’t have works you’re going to hell, I’m starting to realize maybe I’m more Catholic than I realize

@sly8926

Жыл бұрын

You actually go to hell BECAUSE you have works; evil works. You can do good works too, but even atheists can do good works. In order to believe that good works can keep you out of hell, you’d have to accept that an atheist can go to heaven. How could a person who denies God’s existence possibly go to heaven?

@a_Catholic_Ant

Ай бұрын

@@sly8926 Bruh we don't preach "Sola Opus" (Salvation by works alone). We teach that you need a faith with works. That's what the bible teaches: "You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone... For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead." (James 2:24,26)

@sly8926

Ай бұрын

@@a_Catholic_Ant James is not a swearing how one is saved. He’s answering how you can TELL one is saved. If there are no good works that you can see, that person is obviously not saved. But there can be no good works without faith. There can be no salvation without faith. And faith alone saves you. Ephesians 2:8-9

@a_Catholic_Ant

Ай бұрын

@@sly8926 This verse seems to be a condemnation of Pelagianism if read closely, that you are saved by yourself and not by God. Both Catholics and Protestants condemn this heresy. How do I know it's talking only about Pelagianism? It says "and this is not your own doing". The works talked about in the last part is talking about how our works doesn't earn salvation. Obedience is impossible without God. However, how we act can affect salvation. For example, one of the clearest condemnations of homosexuality also supports the Catholic position of mortal sin (sins that if you commit will damn you if you don't repent in confession). 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Hey Bishop Barron, did you receive the silver play button yet from KZread?

@jonathankearney906

7 жыл бұрын

Not yet!

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Eric Davenport Friend, an honest question: is there in your opinion any value whatsoever to ecumenism? Vatican II and the last five Popes have all enthusiastically embraced it. But if Luther is nothing but a Hell-bound heretic, why would we even bother having discussions with Protestants?

@rlburton

7 жыл бұрын

Polonius: "My lord, I will use them according to their desert." Hamlet: "God’s bodykins, man, much better. Use every man after his desert, and who should ’scape whipping? Use them after your own honor and dignity. The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty. "

@escabrosa1

7 жыл бұрын

Bishop Barron - Is the ultimate goal of ecumenism to bring everyone into the Catholic Church, or is it something else?

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

escabrosa1 The ultimate goal of the Church's entire life and activity is conversion.

I found the video very informative As a convert from Evangelical to Catholic church I have been trying to study the histories and mindset of the different theologies. Can you recommend any media or literature that can help break it down so I can have a hope of mentally digesting?

@floydfan82

7 жыл бұрын

I would suggest looking for material by Dr. Brant Pitre. He also has many great KZread videos if you do a search for Catholic Productions.

@VideoMask93

7 жыл бұрын

Karl Keating's Catholicism and Fundamentalism is a great overview of the idfferences between Evangelical Fundamentalism and Catholicism. Saved my faith a few years back.

@andimcdove

7 жыл бұрын

It might be good to listen to Pints with Aquinas by Matt Fradd. It's a podcast where he breaks down St Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologiæ and translates it into an explanation of the varying perspectives of the Christian faith, while addressing certain questions which may be asked from a non-Catholic perspective

@rlburton

7 жыл бұрын

I can see how a few pints would help before tackling St. Aquinas.

@PinkyIvan12

6 жыл бұрын

I think John Henry Newman is one of the most enlightening authors in this area. Apologia Pro Vita Sua and Essay on Development of Christian Doctrine showcase the protestant side just as well as they do the Catholic one as he was the most important Anglican figure of the 19th century.

I would like to know what is the goal of modern Ecumenism. Return protestants back to the Church, or search for a compromise between the two?(something political) I'm also concerned about some of the statements made by the Holy Father, in the "ecumenical dialogue" He seems to emphasize more common social action rather than search for the Truth.. doing exactly the contrary of what Pope Benedict did. Could you explain the actual position of the Holy See? thank you

@BlacksmithTWD

5 жыл бұрын

Mostly the latter from the view both are Christians and that's what's most important, though I can't exclude the possibility some individuals within the Catholic church might favor the first, and some individuals within the protestant church might prefer reforming the Catholic church to be become more like the protestant church.

@Oo7Hola

4 жыл бұрын

BlacksmithTWD I like both :( can we just keep them both. But I love the old Latin mass and the tradition.

@BlacksmithTWD

4 жыл бұрын

@@Oo7Hola I'm not an authority on either, but both are still practiced, just visit the right places at the right time and you can still enjoy both.

@MichElle-sd6gj

4 жыл бұрын

Will find answers in towardsovietamerica.com by communist William Z. Foster, “School of darkness” by Dr. Bella V. Dodd & “Good Bye, Good Men” by Michael S. Rose.

@order_truth_involvement6135

4 жыл бұрын

Jerry Uallera This all began a long time ago. Read about Paul VI, Francis is just 2.0 Paul. Heresy’s been around since Vatican 2.

Wow excellent video! Could you please recommend me some good literature about the relationship between Schleiermacher's hermeneutics and Protestantism? I'm a philosopher and I've been trying to get into that problem, for now I've only worked Schleiermacher's hermeneutics from it's influence on Plato's contemporary reception. Please help me with that!! Love your videos!

A very interesting video. I find the solos very interesting. After speaking about grace to various Christians I find that Catholics, Protestants and the orthodox have a very different definition of grace as an example. I may have to read those books you mentioned!

@garyjaensch7143

4 жыл бұрын

Bao Duong be careful , google Catholics worshiping Mary before you look too deeply at them, they nearly all say they don’t, click on link for verse regarding grace through Faith www.google.com.au/search?q=kjv+grace+through+faith&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

@claudius_drusus_

2 жыл бұрын

The Catholic and Orthodox view on grace are the same. The protestants ignore the book of James.

@claudius_drusus_

2 жыл бұрын

@@garyjaensch7143 Catholics don't worship Mary. Protestants on the other hand...love picking and choosing what books go into the Bible.

@alexvig2369

2 жыл бұрын

@@claudius_drusus_ I.E heresy...

@bdff4007

2 жыл бұрын

@@claudius_drusus_ James is canonical scripture in every Protestant church on earth, including Lutheran. You are too much tuned in to amateur Catholic apologists, who make a good living as "apologists." These amateurs are old pros at reviving the old divisions, as if 500 years of perspective and distance hasn't brought more light than heat. Father Barron brings perspective, and balance. Here he fails to mention that Luther described the faith he wrote about as "a living thing, full of every good work." Luther derided prescribed good works as brownie points to gain favor with God. He saw outrageous abuses in the practice, and he objected to a preacher raising money for the construction of St.Peter's by selling indulgences to get your deceased relatives released from purgatory. His pitch was this: "As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs." The works that Luther lauded were those that sprung from the gift of faith that God gives, works that spring from the heart. This kind of faith " works by love," which comes from a verse in Paul's epistle to the Galatians, an epistle which Luther cherished and compared to his beloved wife Kathryn, a former nun who brought domestic tranquility and good order, and the blessing of offspring, into his otherwise turbulent life.

I love listening to this Bishop even though Im not Catholic. To be honest Im caught in the fence between Evangelicals and Catholics. As times I feel like going to RCIA classes. Yet, as an example of my hesitation is, I keep reading about being judged about our works - good and bad - yet even in Psalm 103:12 my sins will be removed from me ".....as far as the east is from the west." One could argue that the east is at the heals of the west, but the next verse talks about God's compassion towards His children. How compassionate is God if He doesnt forget our sins as long as we fear Him? On the flip side of the coin is my paradigm regarding "work". As far as "works" go, to me if Peter decided not to step out of the boat and just say, "Yes, God, I have faith in You but if You dont mind I ll just stick it out here safely in the boat." Where is the faith if you dont work it out to step out of the boat? Then yes, such faith is dead! Now you can see my dilemma. Anyone else feels this way or am I doomed?

@annettea4334

4 жыл бұрын

From my Catholic point of view: We're in this hole, covered with mud and muck (original sin.) Jesus throws us a rope - he's paid for us sins so we can get out. Every good thing we do and say (works) however small, pushes us a higher up the rope. Every bad thing weighs us down and makes us slip down again. God wants us to succeed. For those who do, in His mercy He forgets that He ever saw their sins and how much they struggled on the way up. I hope this helps. God bless.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

You understand works well. The example of Peter stepping out of the boat is exactly the understanding I have about works. Don't be Catholic.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

@@annettea4334 We are not on a rope. Dead or alive is a binary thing. So are you dead or alive?

@davidwv7370

2 жыл бұрын

Pray this prayer . >> DEAR JESUS, YOU KNEW I COULD NEVER DO ENOUGH GOOD THINGS TO DESERVE HEAVEN SO YOU DIED ON A CROSS SO I CAN BE FORGIVEN. PLEASE SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT TO HELP ME BECOME MORE LIKE THE PERSON YOU WANT ME TO BE.

@suzannemcmaken4648

Жыл бұрын

You don’t need to walk with religion. Believers walk with Christ.

Hi, Bishop - as a baptized Lutheran I enjoyed your perspective on Luther. I always interpreted his increased vitriol against the upper clergy and church itself as his "born again" moment, where he was able to see Christ more clearly than he ever had before. That said, he indeed rebelled against the Catholic establishment and many of us still follow his liturgical blueprint for the worship of the holy trinity - very similar but in contrast to our Catholic brethren. My question of late has been this: Are we Christians nearing a point where current societal trends are forcing us to defend our positions of faith in outspoken ways similar to Martin Luther's outward criticism of the church? In your opinion are various denominations nearing or have already reached a point where we can present a united front and loudly proclaim God's presence in a world that turns away from it?

@NCWMedic

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I think I'm hearing you say that in this time in the history of the world, the last thing we need is bickering between Christians who for the most part believ the same things. The great commission of making beliwvers of all nations baptising them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! That should be our paramount mission! Now is not the time to create stumbling blocks for people to come to faith in Jesus Christ and his saving work. The Pope, Bishops, Priests, Pastors, Deacons, and associate pastors need to teach and preach THE Truth. Not watered down, feel good sermons. Teach and preach the good news of salvation but also preach and teach about the truth of evil in the world and the truth of Heaven, Hell, the Devil, and his demons. Preach and teach the truth. His name is Jesus Christ. There is truth in no other. AMEN.

@bradnoel5981

11 ай бұрын

@@NCWMedicGreat comment. I feel the same way. Pray that we all unite as believers in Jesus.

Beautifully discussed subject! Thank you Bishop Barron!

Yes to both, and Amen to a step forward in the ecumenical conversation!

Yes! I was eagerly waited for this

But how could the experience of Grace in the "Lutheran" sense be effectively drawn out in a manner that IS in conformity with the orthodox teaching?

@bizzy5439

7 жыл бұрын

Alex perhaps the only way it could work is simply by a more poetic and/or literary expression of our need for God and His grace. Clearly it is impossible to compromise on the Lutheran "sola" principles, but I think a good step forward would be to simply acknowledge how wonderfully important the saving grace of God is. Then again, I don't see how the Catholic Church hasn't already expressed this fully, and perhaps it is protestants that need to recognize it in us.

@bizzy5439

7 жыл бұрын

Actually he's an extremely orthodox man, and if he wasn't, he wouldn't be my personal hero. He says nothing contradictory to Church teaching here and many times he has called out the issues created by Vat II. I believe that he is being a very clever evangelist in this video and I applaud him for reaching out to our protestant brothers and sisters.

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Friend, did you even try to listen to what I argued?

@ClassicalTheist

6 жыл бұрын

Bishop Robert Barron Of course I did. I'm not questioning the premise of the video, just wondering about the mechanism behind how it could be played out in practice

@keeroe2020

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Davenport Watch his other videos. RESPECT for other viewpoints is not acquiescence.

Sola good! 😂🙏 Thanks, Bishop Barron. A scholar & a gentleman to your core.

Bishop Barron, I notice quite a few of your Reformation-related videos sorta center around Luther. Have you done any pieces on Calvin, or would you consider doing so?

Our journey is to be better. To get closer to perfection. We will never be perfect. We will try. We will fail but we will learn from all those who came before us. God bless this world. We journey on. We get closer to God.

Hi Bishop Barron PLEASE READ, I'm currently watching your series on catholicism. I've always admired this series, thank you. I am born and raised catholic and admire the peace that fills me when I am at mass, retreats, and ccd. My brother is attending school in Indiana to be a lutheran pastor. He will be up there for 4 yrs. with his wife(shes lutheran) and my nephew (he's 10 mths.) I love my brother, his wife, and my nephew with all my heart. I know that they will be okay because they love christ so much. Yet this has caused confusion for my family. I don't know exactly what I am asking you I think I just wanted you to know. I typed this before watching the video.

I suggest bishop Barron should read more about Luther, specially his last years, after the reformation. Only hten he would understand the serious mistakes of Luther's thought and of protestantism in general.

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Friend, I clearly stated in the video that I disagree massively with Luther. What mistakes of his do you think I'm not noticing?

@pachulin2001

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your answer, Fr. Robert. Although you indeed say in a part of the video that you disagree massively with Luther, you also express of him as a "pius and brilliant" religious man, who felt deeply inloved with God. This way of expressing about Luther conveys the idea, whether you intended to or not, that his teachings were right except some minor mistakes. Besides the three "solas" you mention, which are great mistakes (and it is not clear enough the severity of these errors in the video) it is worth mentioning for example what Luther thought about human reason («The reason is the devil's great whore, a fucking meal for scabies and leprosy»), or what he thought about human freedom (that is incompatible with God whom knows and determines everything), or about human nature (radically and irremediably corrupted), or about grace (which is like white snow over human muck, so that any effort towards good doing, is not only useless but it's even a diabolic temptation, where by his famous phrase: sin hard, and believe harder), and so on. It is shockingly instructive to read what Luter himself wrote on this matters, excerpts of which one can find collected by good catholic apologists. Also about his life in his last years, and the way he used to express about his enemies, about the Pope, and about the Universities of Paris and Lovain, about religious life, about celibacy, about good manners, and so on. I think that the last thing Satan wants is that we come to know the truth about the so-called Reformation, because when a protestant discovers the truth, he becomes catholic at once. The sad thing is that we catholics, aren't helping enough to turn this truth more accessible. Also a common mistake is to think that catholic thought about grace (or faith or scripture) was obscured in the time of Luther.

@rlburton

7 жыл бұрын

Bishop Barron specifically addressed the errors of the solas, as well as saying the he massively disagreed with Luther's theology. Yes Luther did love Jesus, however imperfectly and misguided he may have been, and yes he was brilliant, however he misused his brilliance.

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Feri del Carpio-Marek Oh friend, you're just twisting my words out of all recognition.

@pachulin2001

7 жыл бұрын

Dear Fr Robert, I'm sorry if I twisted your words, I didn't intend to do so. I hope my comment might be useful to others that fall in the same misunderstanding.

Good God, your mind is just so much pumped up ... I'm watching your channel for a few days and can't believe. Just relax, exhalate and enjoy the beatiful life around you! Wish you the best preacher!

This was good. Also, I like the context that Bishop Barron gives this in his video that I recently cam across "Bishop Barron on Martin Luther". I think it is both simple and revealing.

"Luther turned priests into laymen by turning laymen into priests" says Marx. This seems to be the objective meaning of Protestanism regardless of intentions.

@U2andColdplayFan

7 жыл бұрын

go read 1 Timothy

@ozlemdenli7763

7 жыл бұрын

I did. Marx makes a sociological and historical argument.

@DystopiaFatigue

7 жыл бұрын

Fuckboi and Lavacunt Go change your user name before pretending you care what's in the Bible.

@alexanderaquino4289

5 жыл бұрын

Yahh and see what Marxs did on its application

@bigwoody4704

4 жыл бұрын

And damn you - worx out pretty good

The acceptance of Luther by German rulers had nothing to do with religion, it was all about power

@mitchevans9315

5 жыл бұрын

That is quite an historical inference. I don’t think you can be so sure of that.

@misterrex684

5 жыл бұрын

same why pagan kings converted to christianity. It all was just about power.

@brucewmclaughlin9072

5 жыл бұрын

@@misterrex684 A bit like Trump and evangelical America?

@nashvillain171

5 жыл бұрын

*The acceptance of Martin Luther BY THE PEOPLE had EVERYTHING to do with justification by faith through scripture above all else.*

@miajane3878

5 жыл бұрын

Love all people

Martin Luther’s criticism of indulgences in the Catholic Church AND the serf like grip of German elites on 90% of the people might have unleashed a yearning for individual freedom. I hope Bishop Barron will give another lecture on Martin Luther and the effects his writings had on the people of that time. I enjoyed this lecture very much, Martin Luther is a fascinating figure. I read that Martin Luther King Sr. changed his name because he admired Martin Luther. And ML’s writings seems to have created many other Christian religions. ❤✝️

so should i read luthers mystical writings vs teresa avila & john of the cross?

Bishop Robert Barron It is with respect that I make my next comment, how can we call an "experience of grace" to something that led Fr. Martin Luther to reject the Church as a sacrament of salvation?

@BishopBarron

6 жыл бұрын

Santa Escritura Experiences of God can be misinterpreted and inadequately explained. That doesn't mean they weren't in fact experiences of God.

@LaFedelaIglesia

6 жыл бұрын

Bishop Robert Barron I think you have a point. but on the other hand Martin Luther not only interpreted and explained his new ideas, but he also rejected and "refuted" the teachings of the Church misleading thousands of souls, even until this day. I never thought about the "Solas" of Luther as expressions of love, but as denials of Catholic doctrine: "Sola Fide" a denial of the necessity of good works for final justification, "Sola Scriptura" a denial of Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium as binding authorities for all Christians. In any event I know you know these things very well. Thank you for taking time to graciously respond to my comment Bishop, I really appreciate it. Thank you again!

@BishopBarron

6 жыл бұрын

And I grant as much! I said that Trent was right in criticizing the Solas from a doctrinal perspective. But can we find absolutely nothing valuable in Luther's religious experience?!

@LaFedelaIglesia

6 жыл бұрын

Bishop Robert Barron Agreed! Thank you for taking time to reply Bishop!

@jtoad99

5 жыл бұрын

Remember Luther never wanted to leave the church. He wanted to reform it and change it. To get rid of the abuses and corruption at the time. It was the Pope who excommunicated him. Luther was a faithful member of the Augustinian Order.

Thank you, Bishop Barron, for sharing your view on Luther. I am a baptist who has been reading Leo J. Trese's The Faith Explained, so as to understand the Catholic faith.

...not only represent a step forward but lead to the union of the one true Church

I love your discussion on ML. When I read a biography on ML… I was also struck by his 100% love of God and Jesus. But one thing he also seemed focused on was how the church(Pope hierarchy) was grasping the power of….who forgives sin. When God frees the slaves from Egypt…there is a parallel to what ML is looking at. Freedom of the individual…ML studies scripture and concludes…the individual has a direct pipeline to Jesus (God to Jews)… the sins have been forgiven….no humans necessary. (No middleman, no indulgences). I know nothing about this subject… but I was really taken in by ML.. his fiery personality and bravery for the time he lived in. He was devoted also to Paul’s writings (so he didn’t dislike ALL Jews), he had quite a sharp tongue… but I think Bishop Barron you hit on the reason for that… he was in love with God. ♥️✝️

This is the first time I've heard this critique of Luther; a critique of romantic extremes, of poetry. If I were a Catholic, I would pun it "the poetic effects of sin'.

@ginjordom6065

Жыл бұрын

If you're into writing then you've got yourself a great poem title! Four years since your comment,I suppose I could steal it from you? ;P

“What unites us in Christ is greater than what divides us.” Pope Francis in 2016 when he welcomed German Lutherans in Rome.

Well done, beautiful exegesis of the life of Luther who enlightened the world afresh with the Love and Mercy and Grace of God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Only a Protestant can fully understand the Grace of God and who can write a hymn like, "Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me, l once lost but now l am found, blind but now l see ". 🙂👌👊👍

@user-cm6lg5eo9x

Ай бұрын

The composer sold slaves. How is that understanding the Grace of God? Love and mercy? Tell that to the Jews. Read the books which Martin Luther read, because they don’t exactly say ‘love’ as much as they do ‘hate’ .

@mosesmanaka8109

13 сағат бұрын

​@@user-cm6lg5eo9x Yes clown he did sell slaves which is the whole point of the hymn he wrote. Read the Council of Florence what the Catholic Church's view is about Jews which is no different to Luther an ex Catholic. And while you about it study the Talmud to see what Jews think of our Lord Jesus Christ and Christians. If you can't think critically then go for another vaccine and wear your mask.

With regard to a great many comments and responses seen here below ...know this: "For those who have the Holy Faith nothing needs to be said.... but for those who have not the Faith...nothing can be said''... how true how true.

@Bishop Robert Barron YES! I'm a new Catholic. I desperately want to bring Protestants back into the True Church. But until now, I've not heard an intellectually honest Catholic view of Luther. Thank you for looking at the truth about Luther. You did an excellent job here. (Although I would be severely unqualified to judge your work. But for what it's worth I think you did great and what you said was very helpful.) Yes I know Luther was wrong in many areas. And they were big. But by saying things like "he was a rebellious monk" (which until now was pretty much the only thing I could find Catholics saying about him), we are creating a completely unnecessary and I would almost say sinful wall for those Protestants that God is calling into the Catholic Church. I think that we have to look honestly at Luther, stand strong on the things that he was wrong on, but also recognize the things that he was right about. Some of the things that he was confronting the Church about were correct, as witnessed by the fact that the Church later changed on those things. His intention had not been to start a new branch of Christianity or to break from the Catholic Church. He wanted to reform within the Catholic Church. But the Pope not only excommunicated him but tried to have him killed. That's a big thing. Right there you have the rift. And again, I'm not trying to pretend that he wasn't wrong about a lot of things. I think that we need to genuinely look at the walls between us and Protestants, as you've done here with one of them, and honestly evaluate them. For example, we insist on saying that we pray to Mary. Ask your phone to give you the definition of pray. It says something along the line of begging for something from a deity. It might mention also an archaic meaning. And we know this. We laugh at Protestants who think that we're worshiping Mary and we say haven't you ever read Shakespeare? Well Shakespeare was centuries ago. The English language has changed since then. Yet we insist on using this archaic meaning of a word that we know causes Protestants to stumble. And I say that we know it because we shake our heads at them as if they're stupid because they don't understand the archaic meaning. WE LEAD THEM to believe that we are doing something that we know is heretical. (We lead them to think that we're worshiping Mary) I'm sorry but there's a problem with that. Why don't we just use modern English and say that we ask Mary to pray for us? As I said, I'm a new Catholic, so maybe I'm missing something. Maybe by saying it that way I'm losing some of true doctrine??? If so then I want to be corrected (hopefully kindly). I do not want to sacrifice any true doctrine. But from what I understand at this point, it would be accurate to say that we ask Mary to pray for us. We can express what we do without making it a stumbling block to Protestants that God might be calling into the Catholic Church. As someone who wants very very much to see Protestants brought back into the Catholic Church, this video was encouraging to me. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.

@pavanteja9601

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I can copy paste and save your comment it's so good. A Catholic seminarian

@tommygun333

2 жыл бұрын

Good points especially about Mary. Btw, Luther was a true follower of Her even though he was thinking about himself as a prophet and hated papacy and Catholic Church, which is bad as he hated the body of Christ and Him himself living Him at the same time. That's a crazy mixture. You're not wrong about the doctrine. Someone described the Church as the Noah's ark. It's the only way to salvation but due to so many animals on board it's filled with poop (our, the Church members' sins)

@alyce-kayruckelshaus1224

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommygun333 Yes! Since writing my comments I've found that he called her the mother of God. I still stand pretty much with what I said, but I've also learned a little bit more about that period. Luther split the church which was bad although that wasn't what he intended to do. However on the other side, there were religious and laity Who knew that there was a lot wrong in the church at the time. They quietly prayed and tried to be as godly as they could be. As a result, there was the Catholic Reformation. Wow! Fighting against something isn't necessarily the best way. Especially when we're talking about spiritual things. I so admire those people who prayed and worked on their personal Piet y. I think that's probably a lot more pleasing to God and it definitely yielded results.

@alyce-kayruckelshaus1224

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommygun333 PS - Thank you for sharing the Noah's ark illustration. I love that! And thank you for patiently encouraging a baby Catholic

@sethselby3708

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, how are you doing? I recommend reading the book of Galatians. And see what it says that justification is by faith alone and that adding works is a false gospel.

If we reject faith alone we diminish the work of Christ by suggesting Christ needs our help in secureing salvation. Works flow from a gratefully changed life. If we were to contribute in any way to the finished work of Christ it would pollute that work rather than enhance it

Hello Bishop Barron. Do you have any thoughts or comments on Bernard Lonergan? Thought I would ask. Thank you kindly.

I applaud you Bishop Barron for you objectivity and the fact that you are open minded about Luther, this is indeed a step forward in the ecuminical conversation. I mean it seem to me that the Catholic view in the USA is way more open minded than other part of the world, probably because Protestantism is still in majority in USA. I always say when I talk about Luther is the fact that he wanted to reform the Catholic Church and he was right if you see what the Catholic Church did in the 16th Century with the indulgence, fortunately it was abolished by Pope Pius V in 1567.

@partycrashers22

Жыл бұрын

Still being done today. I go to Catholic church and there's still offerings to release the souls of purgatory. Purgatory to me was a place before Jesus was even born. Because no one couldnt go anywhere after death.

Tha's why thousands of Catholics leave the church, because our pastors don't embraced the true anymore, they want to be inclusive and nice rather than loyal and truthful to our faith.

@dbtez1212

6 жыл бұрын

Juan Martinez True

@ARMERZ

6 жыл бұрын

Hopefully someday, the clergy would have the passion, and energy that is like a valiant knight onward to his quest with unwavering loyalty.

@wallrusmoose2111

5 жыл бұрын

True Bishop Barron used some Interesting terminology referring to Luther, here I added my reflections on his terms. Crackling - I tend to associate with flames. Squinting - A difficulty in seeing something Fighter pugnacious - In a priest? should only be to defend God and the Church not attack it Lover - Luther fell in love with himself not God. . St Michael was both a Fighter and lover when he defended God. So over the top - in love with himself that he put his ideas over everyone, removed parts of the bible and thought so highly of himself that he inserted Alone into scripture. That sound like the Vice of Pride.

@happyhour1517

5 жыл бұрын

Juan Martinez g

@michaeladamonis2620

5 жыл бұрын

leaving the Church (true church - catholic), is like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. you confuse inclusive with the term "welcoming ". Paul said I became all things to all people so that some would be saved (inclusive?).

A quote from your hero: “Did I not tell you earlier that a Jew is such a noble, precious jewel that God and all the angels dance when he farts? And if he were to go on to do something coarser than that, they would nevertheless expect it to be regarded as a golden Talmud”.

@joshcruise2657

5 жыл бұрын

Here's some telling quotes by Martin Luther as well: “If the husband is unwilling, there is another who is; if the wife is unwilling, then let the maid come.” “Christ committed adultery first of all with the women at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: ‘Whatever has He been doing with her?’ Secondly, with Mary Magdalen, and thirdly with the women taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even, Christ who was so righteous, must have been guilty of fornication before He died.” “If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the bridge of the Elbe, hang a stone round his neck and push him over with the words I baptize thee in the name of Abraham” “To kill a peasant is not murder; it is helping to extinguish the conflagration. Let there be no half measures! Crush them! Cut their throats! Transfix them. Leave no stone unturned! To kill a peasant is to destroy a mad dog!” - “If they say that I am very hard and merciless, mercy be damned. Let whoever can stab, strangle, and kill them like mad dogs” “It is more important to guard against good works than against sin.” “Good works are bad and are sin like the rest.”

Multiple truths are a fact of life. And also, the hierarchy of truths... Love is at the top: "The end of my labors has come. All that I have written appears to be as so much straw after the things that have been revealed to me." When later asked ... to return to writing, Aquinas said, "I can write no more. I have seen things that make my writings like straw."

I'm a Lutheran who sees much to appreciate in the Council of Trent. I wish it had been a truely ecumenical council in its time. This is a healthy perspective which I share and is necessary to bring Lutherans - and Luther himself - back into the catholic church. I pray that the dialogue continues.

Why didn't Luther strive to become a Saint. A saint gives up his power to God.

@bigwoody4704

4 жыл бұрын

The RCC doesn't decide who is a saint and who makes the pearly gates

@bigwoody4704

4 жыл бұрын

According to 2000 + yrs of Dogma and Doctorine that has been spun and what scripture that you want to cherry pick.Good Luck and cover your mouth and wash your hands

@vesogry

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigwoody4704 Luther was cherry-picking and throwing out 7 books of the Bible.

@bigwoody4704

4 жыл бұрын

The Princes in the Ivory Vatican towers have been taking creative license with history for 1700 yrs

@vesogry

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigwoody4704 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are a typical revolutionary who hates Church founded by Jesus and prefers the one founded by Luther who was visited by a devil every night (he wrote about that himself). He also was throwing feces at the devil. He also wrote about this.

I am at a crossroads (no pun intended😉). I was raised, rather loosely, Catholic. Not strict or “cradle Catholic” by any means. I am now trying to find my way back, retracing my steps and a very stale trail of breadcrumbs. In so doing, Bishop Barron has been instrumental and I am grateful to him and the Word on Fire ministry. I am struggling though, with some issues I have with the Catholic Faith. Number one being the requirement of priestly celibacy. As far as I have been able to determine, this is certainly not Biblical. I am certain that this requirement has worked to draw in the pedophiles and homosexuals that have, for lack of a better word, “infiltrated” the Church and used the Priesthood for cover. I am drawn to Lutheran and Episcopalian Faiths as what I believe to be the “next, best, thing”. I always loved the authenticity of the Catholic Church being started by Christ as he directed St. Peter to build the Church. I also love the Sacraments and the overall Doctrine of Catholicism and the basic approach to Faith that Catholicism teaches us. I just cannot accept how they have hidden pedophiles and openly accept homosexual/predator bishops and priests. That seems to be their “legacy” today and it is a major stumbling block for me. I say, to whomever might be listening, allow priests and nuns to marry if they want to. Eradicate the perversion rife in the ranks of the Church. I see this requirement as, somewhat, sadistic in nature and has lead the Church to scandal.

@--AE--

Жыл бұрын

Catholicism is not part of Christianity. There's a reason why these individuals broke away from the Vatican. The problems with Catholcism are far too many to list, but among them are: praying to Mary (who often sits upon an altar within their church, sometimes with candles lit) which is 100% idolatry, veneration of the saints and praying to angel, purgatory (which was, and is, literally a scam to con money out of ppl back in the day to build Cathedrals). Catholics have a totally different doctrine than what's in the Bible too... they don't preach the gospel. In fact, Christ is so busy or mean or whatever that you have to pray to His mom. Rome was, and has always been, a front for Satan to persecute the true Church. If they weren't feeding Christians to the lions, figures like Bloody Mary were persecuting members of Christ's true church who only wanted to preach scripture in their own native languages (which was only in Latin, only readable by the elites of the day). Btw, the Catholic church wasn't created by Peter. Anyways, Steven Lawson teaches about these Reformers, and it's fascinating. It gives a glimpse into why these men fell away from Catholicism and what they were about.

@carsonaswell2809

Жыл бұрын

The scripture is set in stone, but the fabrications of man are not. In the same way that Jews strayed from the light of God, I fear too that the Catholics have. Although Luthers actions have lead to some fairly ridiculous denominations and beliefs, those who are true in faith and follow the light of God, know the hiss of the snakes.

Hi Your Grace, Great commentary. I found the suggestion about embracing Luther and Trent at the same time really interesting. It reminds me a lot about the sorts of things people say about Br Roger (founder of Taize): that he was Protestant **and** Catholic. Would you regard Br Roger as a good role model for Catholics to emulate in the spirit of saying "yes and" to Luther and Trent? (have you encountered much of Taize? I don't think I've ever heard you mention them before...)

@standev1

4 жыл бұрын

"embracing Luther and Trent at the same time really interesting" Yes, that would be quite interesting absurdity and self-contradiction, since the Holy Council of Trent pronounces anathema on Luther, and requires that all faithful Catholics anathematize what the Church anathematized.

As a Lutheran, I found this video very fascinating. While I strongly affirm Lutheran theology, I definitely enjoy, and share Bishop Barron's characteristics of Luther as a person (and he certainly had his flaws no doubt). However, I find a lot of peculiar claims in the comment section. I'm by far no expert in Catholic ecclesiology, but viewing ex ecclesiam nulla salus in light of the articles of Lumen Gentium (especially on the Holy Spirit), I find quite a few of them rather odd (even hillarious, had this not been such serious issue). As a side note, speaking of the Reformation, I personally believe it was a huge strategical mistake by the Catholic Church not to give Cajetan mandate to engage Luther theologically (in contrast to on church authority alone) in their debate. What could have been the debate of the century turned into a textbook example of talking past each other.

@bigwoody4704

5 жыл бұрын

Snike - let the dead bury their dead

@gideondavid30

Жыл бұрын

I believe Rome vastly underestimated the impact Luther was going to have on the continent (mainly through the printing press). It seems a debate of that kind would have made the Church look weak stooping to the level of a lowly monk who dare challenges Catholic hierarchy. I don't think Rome was prepared or inclined to debate its monopoly of power over Christendom in Europe. Afterall, it held dominion for 1000 years.

+Bishop Robert Barron - could you please elaborate more on those points where, as you said, "I disagree with lots and lots of his ideas."? You seemed to be solely laudatory of Luther, without specifying with which of his ideas you - or Catholics, in general - should disagree. Thank you.

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Solely laudatory?! I argued in the video that his central teaching is substantially incorrect! I might invite you to take another look at the piece.

@jcb3393

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, but I didn't hear any response to my point that your video might lead some people to believe that they can be good Lutherans - remaining outside of the Catholic Church - and still be saved... almost as if there's really no good reason for Catholics to evangelize to protestants. BTW, what is your reaction to this response to your Luther video: www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-martin-luther-bishop-barron

@ToxicPea

4 жыл бұрын

He likes Luther's love and linguistic flare, but disagrees with Sola Scriptura.

@fcastellanos57

4 жыл бұрын

Cecilia Ortiz Better than praying the rosary is reading the New Testament and understanding what it says. The rosary, where did it come from? I bet Paul, Peter, and the rest of the apostles never knew about this ritual.

@fcastellanos57

4 жыл бұрын

Cecilia Ortiz The rosary is just a repetition of made up prayers created by someone and it is something like a talisman, There is NO reason to jump to the conclusion that because Jesus gave the apostle John to Mary, Jesus gave the whole of humanity to her, this is an exaggeration and a misrepresentation of the text. This is typical Catholic Biblical wrong way of interpreting scriptures, and just an example of how scripture is twisted to support a made up believe. If you want to learn christianity stop reading catholic books that distort what you are reading, use your own understanding, not someone else’s you will do better.

Wow this was incredibly enlightening and consistent

Bishop Barron, I think that the people would Love for you to do a video about the Episcopalian Bishop John Spong.

I have heard Bishop Barron discuss Trent previously. Clearly I am going to have to actually read what they say at that Council

Dear Bishop Barron, you are a very wise man. Your words could bring catholics and protestants together, so they can see each other as brothers. Perhaps Luther's phrase that I love the most is " Every good Christian must read and write".

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

Catholicism and being a born again Christian with the same theology that Luther has, indeed the one that emanates from the pages of scriptures, are like oil and water. So he can say nice things about Luther, but it's all a superficial show and will not unite anyone when push comes to shove. It's a lie.

As a Lutheran, I would like to thank Bishop Barron for this and all of the other videos! I find them extremely interesting and I am enjoying them a lot.

@jesseozil97

6 жыл бұрын

Cuz he talked to your mouth.

@denniscosban6145

5 жыл бұрын

I'm Lutheran lcms. Please do me a favor in the future. Don't invoke the name of my church. (A )you don't know what you're talking about. And (B )I hope you have a priest following you everywhere you go. The Bible says if you look at a woman. With lust in your eyes you've already committed it. Just the way we think of offends Yahweh. You're obviously not conservative Lutheran are you? Or maybe you just never payed attention . Again please label yourself as non-denominational from from now on. A true Lutheran doesn't speak the way you speak. Good day to you.

@mcchickenmuhchicken

Жыл бұрын

covert

Believers need to expand in thinking both with mind and heart. This requires personal choice, time, sacrifices. So as to grasp as much as possible of the full counsel (will) of God.

As someone who has only come to faith 3 years ago. I have been part of a new-charismatic movement, however, I have struggled with the certain aspects of Protestantism, namely sola fide! My conversion came through my first ever attempt at Lent in which I abstained from pornography and masturbation. Abstinence was the “works” and I called out to Jesus which was in faith. Not to think I can score points with God through my works, but certainly one can be drawn into deeper relationship with Him. Therefore, I think faith and works cannot be divided, as it says in James 2:18. Furthermore, I need the structure of Lent, a designated season to which we can all deny ourselves and draw closer to Him. I will be attending mass this Ash Wednesday 👌

@ceciliamedrano4839

3 жыл бұрын

I went to the Traditional Latin Mass this Ash Wednesday, it so happened to fall on my birthday this year. It was the most beautiful thing I’ve experienced. I started with the Charismatic group in my town. Until a man tried to hit on me. I’m married. He took me to a back room to pray for me but he cornered me. Grabbing my hand. I ran to the nearest door and never went back. I didn’t leave the church. I left the group. Now I’m looking into becoming a Parish member in the Traditional Latin Church. I love history. I think since I started to look into the church’s history. I’ve been more interested in the Traditional Latin Mass since. Never looked back. It’s awesome 😎

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

As a Christian you should put away porn for good. How can you call yourself a follower without following? Only children of God will be saved. Do you live for the flesh which ends in death or life for the spirit which leads to everlasting life?

I would like to see Father Barron in a conversation with John Macarthur! it would be great to see that kind of debate.

@louieelric1773

4 жыл бұрын

Im hoping for a dialogue instead

@chegarufa10

4 жыл бұрын

@@louieelric1773 probably Father Barron would try a Dialogue but I doubt that John Macarthur would like the same.

As a child, I was shaped by my Polish grandmother's view that Catholicism was the one and only true religious path. Hers was a very beautiful, devout, and decidedly pre-Vatican II version of the RCC. Upon attending Catholic school in the late 80s, I was blindsided by the modern ecumenical "Catholic-lite" church: yes, Catholicism is nice and lovely, but all faiths are equally valid and any good person can go to heaven regardless of belief. Even in my young mind, logic caused me to take the next leap: if long held beliefs and traditions were no longer mandatory and could be questioned, why not question the Bible and Christianity itself? Logically, Luther had just one more leap to go before casting out the whole of Christianity, and it's surprising he did not make it. Needless to say, in my adult years, I have become a secular humanist. Why do I write this then? Just as a warning to Catholics who would like to see their Church continue in the future that, if they keep discarding what makes their teachings unique in favor of ecumenicalism, young people will see little/no need to continue in the faith. Personally, even though I no longer believe, I would not like to see the Catholic Church fade into the sands of time if, for nothing else, it is one of the few sources of beauty and charity left in the Western world. But promoting the narrative that other forms of Christianity are equally valid will only succeed in pushing young people out the door. The Boomers, with their "you do your thing" philosophy, are not the future. If you wish to continue, find a way to make this special for young people, not just another option. Peace.

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Cassandra'sCurse Did you think I was promoting the view that all faiths are equally valid?! I might ask you to watch the video again.

@Charlotte_Martel

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for responding to my post, Bishop Barron. I sincerely appreciate it and have enjoyed much of your work. I apologize in advance for the length of this post. Please know that any criticism comes from a place of concern. I have rewatched your video and appreciate that both you and Pope Francis are trying to bridge the divide between Protestants and Catholics in the name of peace and Christian brotherhood. The problem is, IMHO, that many doctrinal issues the Catholic Church holds dear are non-negotiable. Such as, transubstantiation is justified by John 6:53. If that is true, then the Catholics and Orthodox Christians are the only ones with the true form of Communion and need to preach to their Protestant brothers to rejoin the true Church. Is the Pope truly the Rock and Vicar of Christ on Earth? If he is, then by disobeying his authority, Protestants are in conflict with the very thing they hold most dear (the Bible). Should a priest be in the mold of Christ (male, preferably single) or can a priest be anyone literate enough to read the Bible? Is Mary truly forever Virgin and full of Grace, or is she simply the tool used by God to bring Christ into the world, no less a sinner than anyone else? These issues matter greatly, and the answers depend on whether one sees the Catholic Church as THE Church or whether he views it simply as another denomination as Protestantism holds. No matter how you cut it, the answer can't be both. In addition, I can't get on board with whitewashing Luther himself. Having read much about the man, he seems to have begun as a sincere, though horrifically troubled and neurotic, monk who wanted to correct abuses in the Church. However, once the German nobles flocked to him (for the same reason Henry VIII's nobles embraced his Reformed Church: the seizure of land and wealth from the Church made them immensely wealthy), he became convinced that he alone had the one true Gospel and was restoring true Christianity. As such, he fully believed that the Jews would convert en masse once they heard his Truth. Once they did not, he showed his true colors and advocated punishments against Jews which were only distinguishable from Hitler's Final Solution in the sense that Luther would have allowed Jewish converts to live (though one imagines under severe scrutiny for the rest of their lives). As someone who has Jewish ancestry in my relatively recent lineage, I can't just excuse this as being a product of his time. No, Luther's anti-Semitism laid the groundwork for the Third Reich. Not to mention the fact (which many Protestants overlook) that Luther was as much, if not more, critical of fellow "reformers" as the Catholic Church. Clearly, the man loved power and did not want a challenge to his reign as the Pope of Protestantism. Viewing this from a historical prospective, I think it's fine time to acknowledge that the Protestant Reformation may have been the single worst event in Western history. By dividing Christendom and irrevocably weakening the Church, it set the stage for many of the ills which seek to overwhelm the West today: militant Islam, fundamentalist cults, rise in Nationalism (which fueled two world wars), Communism and extreme Capitalism (both of which reduce human value to one's labor), destruction of the family, etc. What so many secular professors seek to avoid acknowledging is the fact that Western civilization was created almost entirely by the Catholic Church and without Her influence, may cease to exist. I feel this is a real threat considering that the path the RCC has been on for the past few decades seems quite similar to that of the Anglican/Episcopalian church: trying so hard to accommodate modernity and discard traditions which may strike the outsider as outdated. As the stats have shown, this more inclusive attitude has done little more than to empty the pews. Personally, I think the world would be a much darker place without the Catholic Church and want to see Her continue well into the future. Thank you for reading and sorry about the length. Peace.

@Charlotte_Martel

7 жыл бұрын

With all due respect, Your Grace, I did not mean to imply that you stated that all faiths are equally valid (sorry if I did not make that clear in the responses). What I meant was that, in a quest to create greater Christian unity (a noble goal), it seems that more traditional forms of Christianity (Catholicism and Orthodoxy) have been willing to downplay or even discard doctrines/facets of their faiths instead of challenging Protestants and radical sects to read and accept the Biblical justifications for the doctrines. For example: transubstantiation, the Immaculate Conception, the papacy, etc. Either these doctrines are true and worth defending (and possibly dying for) or they are simply nice little cultural remnants and can be discarded at will. If the former, Catholics, in the name of tolerance, do a grave disservice by not guiding their Protestant brethren to the true Church. If the latter, then why even form churches at all? One can simply read the Bible at home. Perhaps you can see the danger in the logical conclusion of such thought. Peace.

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

I completely reaffirmed Catholic doctrine in the video! I said that Trent was right to criticize Luther's central position.

@daviddemar8749

5 жыл бұрын

Cassandra'sCurse Well written. I think deep down inside you are still much more RCC than you realize, which is not a bad thing. I'm pretty sure that the good and beautiful parts of your education and upbringing are deeply rooted in your soul even decades upon decades later and continue to implicitly and explicitly influence how you walk out your life every day. So act with love in all things.....

Hello, Have you read the 95 thesis of Martin Luther? Thank you.

Actually, the first reformer was Jan Hus, a hundred years before Luther. Hus was in Moravia, now part of Czechoslovakia. But it was Luther's work that really took off.

Had to listen to a Catholic priest talking about Luther.

@kevinroque5374

7 жыл бұрын

Saral Israel Shrestha Yeah, we tend to forget that he's a bishop now.

@sweynforkbeard8857

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't learn much, other than that I'm still a Lutheran, and why I remain one. When you examine the horrible doctrine of the current pope, it becomes clear why the Solas are important. Do you put your trust in man or God?

@julianaq7633

4 жыл бұрын

@@sweynforkbeard8857 "the pillar and bulwark of the truth is the church of the living God", 1Tim3:15. Sola scriptura is not the pillar of thruth, so you may want to reconsider your essential doctrine which is unbiblical. Not saying you need to become Catholic, but sola scriptura and sola fide are not in the scripture at least not with the word "sola". Anywone who knows the bible is aware of this and you should too.

@ameliadelcastillo5424

4 жыл бұрын

sweyn forkbeard- Have u ever researched the life of Martin Luther?? He’s a horrible horrible evil man..and he changed words and rejected 11 books from the Bible to fit his ideology.. So, who do u put your faith on, the Lord or Martin Luther ??

@sweynforkbeard8857

4 жыл бұрын

@@ameliadelcastillo5424 Luther was merely a person who can only be judged thought the lens of his time that he lived in. Judging historical figures by todays standards is foolish. The followings of the faithful in the Lutheran tradition do not depend in any way on the writings of Luther, other than he wrote a few hymns we like to sing on occasion. What he wrote about Jews, or the Turk is hardly a concern of anyone in the church, nor is it a part of Lutheran doctrinal practices. The teachings we do adhere to is the need to be saved through faith (Sola fide and Sola gratia), and the need to read scripture for ourselves (Sola scriptura), and not depend too much on human sources, or popular societal dogma to be confused as a source of spirituality. You can see this issue in many churches (including the Lutheran ELCA), so I don't see what the Pope is doing as a lot different from what is happening in a lot of churches today. I just don't agree with it, nor do I view the Pope as any sort of spiritual leader.

Can you say "yes to both Luther and Trent"? "Both/and" sounds progressive but is not possible when the two positions are mutually exclusive. I guess the deeper question is whether or not Luther and Roman Catholicism are compatible on the key issues of monergism vs. synergism in salvation, works and grace, and even more basically, Biblical interpretation. As an aside, Ryrie's book is titled "The Radicals that made the Modern World", not "The Faith......"

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

Well, I explicitly argued that they are not compatible. I opined that Luther's solas might be read as over the top expressions of an experience of grace.

@WilliamBrownGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm not saying that there is not compatibility although I suspect that at bottom there are impasses that cannot be breached (certainly many millions of words have been spilled on this topic). I do support efforts such as "Evangelicals and Catholics Together". I assume you must have commented or written about ECT and would be interested in what you have to say about that effort. How much is common ground (just using different vocabulary or coming from different angles) and how much is complete incompatibility?

@BishopBarron

7 жыл бұрын

I explicitly denied that one can say yes to both Luther and Trent at the doctrinal level. I said clearly that Trent was right in its critique of Luther's teaching. I was merely suggesting that we might take Luther's language in a different register.

I love Him so much. I hope you can learn to fall in love with your God. And see and have the oil for which God love shines.

Yes, Luther was in love with Christ, but was also a widely recognized Professor of Theology with a tremendous understanding of the scriptures. With this in mind, it could be argued that he had a better balance on reality than what is proposed in this video. The council of Trent is a debatable source here as they were obviously out to counter Luther’s theology and their reaction as such was predictable. Further to this, does one really want teaching from one who is not in love with God? Anyway, a good video Bishop Barron! Enjoyed it. Thank you.

@dougnewman3935

2 жыл бұрын

Committed Lutheran here - grateful to the bishop for being fair minded and true to his confession (though I agree with Kris Luther was better balanced and it's reasonable to ascribe slogans he approved of with teenage romanticism). For me, Trent was devastated by Martin Chemnitz's critique and has never sufficiently responded. Chemnitz thoroughly goes through Scripture and church fathers to demonstrate their teachings aligning with those of the Book of Concord. Ambrose: "But he who is righteous has righteousness given to him because he was justified from the washing of baptism. Faith, therefore is that which frees through the blood of Christ, because he is blessed 'whose transgression is forgiven, who sin is covered'". Augustine: "By the law we fear God, by faith we hope in God"

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

I know bizarre. Catholics love Catholicism, rather than God so much

@krisjustin3884

2 жыл бұрын

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Sadly true for some, but hopefully not the vast majority. I guess Protestants also have to check if they love their scriptures more than God. Anything can become a God, even something pure and holy.

@krisjustin3884

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougnewman3935 I enjoyed reading this. You seem very well versed in the book of Concord! A good analysis!

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

@@krisjustin3884 I agree somewhat about the scriptures, but at the same time, without the scriptures we'd know nothing about God and all have Hindu steaks in us and be way off. What do we look to? If the Catholic Church didn't have the scriptures to at some level keep them accountable, they'd be further off than Mormons by this point.

I agree with the good Bishop. Wasn't Luther's notes bound in the Rosicrucian bindings? He was a tormented man too, Luther.....

@miajane3878

4 жыл бұрын

I've read that some time ago ... can't we all just get along ..

@miajane3878

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgepenton808 yep that's right

@dbeebee

4 жыл бұрын

Rosicrucianism didn't arise until after Luther's death. Nothing Luther wrote had anything to do with Rosicrucianism. Anything "Lutheran" about Rosicrucianism is only by radical reinterpretation, of which Luther would have been horrified.

@dbeebee

4 жыл бұрын

iraje hall he wasn’t interpreting the Bible however he pleased. He was very much Augustinian in his approach through and through. He regularly appealed to the church fathers. My point is to say that to say Rosicrucianism is Lutheran both misunderstands rosicrucianism and Lutheranism altogether. Rosicrucianism was a fringe group, who embraced pseudo-gnostic views about human nature, and taught their methods as a means to realize your own divine nature. The Lutheran tradition teaches that all humans are entirely fallen, corrupt in their nature, and require God to intervene by saving grace in order to regenerate a person. Nothing we do can make it happen. Rosicrucianism is fundamentally works based and founded on principles altogether at odds with Christianity. In any case, Luther had nothing whatsoever to do with Rosicrucianism. He died before it was invented.

Luther is always a fun read, even when you end up disagreeing. He has the gift of gab. His pen was mightier than any sword

@koppite9600

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently Martin Luther received a vision which contradicts the book of James... faith without action is dead.. Seems legit?

@mrbeastvlogs9635

Жыл бұрын

@@koppite9600 James 2 doesn't contridct sola fide

@koppite9600

Жыл бұрын

@@mrbeastvlogs9635 how?

THIS LIFE therefore is not righteousness, but growth in righteousness, not health, but healing, not being but becoming, not rest but exercise. We are not yet what we shall be, but we are growing toward it, the process is not yet finished, but it is going on, this is not the end, but it is the road. All does not yet gleam in glory, but all is being purified. -Martin Luther

If it wasn't Luther it would have been someone else. Jeez, you can hardly put half a dozen people in a room for 10 minutes before they disagree. So 1500 years of holding it together(excluding orthodox) was bloody miraculous!

WOW! Extolling the virtue of THE protesting heretic. Amazing! And you are a Bishop of the Roman Catholic Church? Even more amazing.

@pseudo-dionysiosareopagite6541

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can't see a charitable interpretation of what Bishop Barron said here. It's so off base.

@paulmiller3469

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgepenton808 I don't see it that way. Luther said his theology stands or falls on 'faith alone.' Bishop Barron just dismissed that as the exaggerating effects of puppy love. It was a charitable take, to be sure, but arguably all the more effective a denunciation because of that.

@johnnafunkhouser5999

4 жыл бұрын

Get over it.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

He's trying to lure unsuspecting Christians to Catholicism, Mormon style

Thank God for Luther and The Reformation.

@firekoovin3347

2 жыл бұрын

God doesnt creat nor lead men to evil, so dont thank him for that its heretical.

@Mygoalwogel

2 жыл бұрын

@@firekoovin3347 The Pope disagrees with you. "I think that the intentions of Martin Luther were not mistaken. He was a reformer. Perhaps some methods were not correct. But in that time, if we read the story of the pastor, a German Lutheran who then converted when he saw reality-he became Catholic-in that time, the Church was not exactly a model to imitate. There was corruption in the Church, there was worldliness, attachment to money, to power . . . and this he protested. . . . And today Lutherans and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification. On this point, which is very important, he did not err. He made a medicine for the Church." --Pope Francis

@firekoovin3347

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mygoalwogel demonic shit bro he actually said that???wtf is with V2 now a days? I dont want to be like a protestent that makes up their own religion, oh my God do we have so many wolves in the one true holy church. anyhow many catholic saints, popes of the past, and peter would condem protestents, There's only one true church you could ever go to.

@inhocsignovinces1081

8 ай бұрын

On the Jews & Their Lies is one of the most controversial works by Protestant reformer, Martin Luther. In one of the most notorious chapters in the book, Luther urges the German people to “raze and destroy [the Jews’] houses,"

Great KZread channel!

I think the expression of faith would be accepted and is. In my opinion its the theological that is harder to take in. But I see what youre saying. To bad Luther thought of it as theological and was met with opposition and things got way out of hand. I also have read prayers or letters from saints that if taken literal sound like a letter from a lover or something. But its very poetic and passionate. I also find it difficult as a song writer sometimes to be expressive when words can be taken in so many ways. Good video!

Say yes to Heresy? Go back to the foundations of the Catholic Church. Certain pillars need not change. Did you forget also that later in Dylan,s life he admits to a partnership with the Devil...sums it up I think.

@MrAlbertcredes

4 жыл бұрын

Unsubstantiated claims. the same can be said of your faith. Just change Catholic Church to your Church. rational people engage with arguments.

@brianincremona7121

4 жыл бұрын

Luis Blanco: so that’s your idea of a rational argument? Alrighty then...

@MrAlbertcredes

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianincremona7121 Yes? I don't think is just my idea. the whole point was that making baseless accusations can be done to anyone or anything and it does not make it true. The only thing that shows is that you want it to be true.

More "flowery words"....running circles, dancing around the Truth.....!!

@neoclassicism1

4 жыл бұрын

Scott _____ Seriously? You are claiming to know more about Catholicism than Bishop Barron? I recommend you to read some of HIS books before you pass such flaccid and shallow judgments

Have you read Rock and Sand by Fr. Trenham?

Works are evidence of salvation, not the progenitor of salvation - lest any man should boast.

Bishop Barron “Luther, I have been fascinated by him for a long time?” Makes the wise Catholic wonder!

I was brought up in Catholicism and came to the same conclusion that Luther came to from reading and studying the scriptures. I didn't even know who Luther really was either, so if people want to say I was brainwashed by Luther they would be wrong. I am convinced by the Word of God and not by any human being.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

Catholics always say all real Christians are brainwashed by Luther even though Luther was not a part of the conversion - just God and his Word! Praise the Lord! I also found the same beliefs through scripture! I think Luther just became a born again Christian is all.

@anthonythistle1465

2 жыл бұрын

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr The issue is they listen too much to their so called leaders especially that Muppet dressed up in the gay Mardi gras outfit.

@freedomfields5569

Жыл бұрын

What authority did martin luther have to change scripture?

@lebeccthecomputer6158

Жыл бұрын

@@freedomfields5569 He didn’t

@immabee542

Жыл бұрын

The Bible can be interpreted in any way a person chooses to. There is only one truth and one Church that interprets the Word in light of that truth

Bishop Barron, would you ever consider evaluating the arguments of Martin Luther and more contemporary Protestants such as C.S. Lewis?

Wished I listened to this first before I wrote some words for a concert we are preparing for the 500th anniversary

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves." Matthew 7:15

@ceciliamedrano4839

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe what I’m hearing!

What I have seen in Luthier was a path for French Revolution and Marxism. Strangely enough it looks as we have read a different Luther. However, it is good to hear a different take on Luther.

@anatolbalthasar9064

2 жыл бұрын

@Prasanth Thomas Well, that is the problem with Catholicism; they tolerate their enemies. Just like the post-Catholic or perhaps the post-Christion world is allowing the Marxists to alter the moral values. The rest of the known traditions [I do not wish to risk my life over an innocent comment] are exterminating people and their ideas. So yes, revolutions as spoiled kids develop in a tolerant environment.

@anatolbalthasar9064

2 жыл бұрын

@Prasanth Thomas Admodum! Thank you kindly for the response.

@anatolbalthasar9064

2 жыл бұрын

@Prasanth Thomas well explained, and I do agree with you. Thanks for the exchange of thoughts.

@hexahexametermeter

Жыл бұрын

That's funny, i see Luther as a path to the free market and the Protestant work ethic and speaking of, if it werent for Luther, the American Revolution would have NEVER existed. The central planning of French revolution has much less to do with American liberty based on gratitude for the blessings of God and the personal responsibility it inspires.

@anatolbalthasar9064

Жыл бұрын

@@hexahexametermeter Good observation and argument. However, I looked at the sacramental life, which makes Protestants lack humbleness, leading towards totalitarianism. For example, in the Protestant world, homosexuals have been persecuted, while in the Catholic world, they had not-just a thought at the time of my imperfect comment. I do like your point. Thank you for the effort to respond.👍

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:45 📚 *Martin Luther, founder of the Protestant movement, is portrayed as a complex and fascinating figure in Alec Ryrie's book "Protestants: The Faith that Made the Modern World".* 02:07 💥 *Luther's character is analyzed through the lenses of "fighter" and "lover", highlighting his pugnacious spirit as well as his profound love for God.* 03:41 💖 *Luther's radical experience of grace led to a deep mystical affection for God, which is seen as a central aspect of Protestantism throughout history.* 05:03 🎶 *Luther's expression of faith, as seen in the three solas of the Reformation, reflects the extravagant language typical of someone deeply in love.* 07:21 💬 *Reflecting on Luther's expressions of faith and the Council of Trent's corrections, there's potential for progress in ecumenical dialogue by embracing both perspectives.*

I see what you mean: i also like john Wesley as a totally christian, devout upstanding guy who makes Martin Luther look demented by comparison.

I see parallels between Martin Luther’s dramatic realization of grace alone (i.e. I cannot ever measure up on my own, and thank you Lord for granting me grace rather than pure justice!) and St. Therese of Lisieux’s Little Way (i.e. I cannot ever measure up on my own, and thank you Lord for extending me Divine Mercy rather than Divine Justice!)

@garesonc9672

3 жыл бұрын

All believers are saints...the Apostle Paul stated this. Read Ephesians.

It is also possible that Martin Luther came up with 'Salvation by Faith alone' because the Catholic Church had a huge network of charitable institutions everywhere even at that time. Rather than compete in this field which he knew was impossible, it is easier to start teaching what he taught. Any teaching can be started by anyone if such teaching is based on few verses only of the Bible.

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

or the whole bible

@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr

2 жыл бұрын

This was not easier. He was sentenced to death? lol His life as a monk was easy. This was a true religious conviction. I read the bible to be the same theology. I just think it was hard for him because he was indoctrinated to read it another way.

When ever I Read Luther's documents I can Feel God's presence I can tell Luther Was used by God to Bring Back the one true Church Jesus Christ founded Reading the Gospels along side Luthers writting's is why i am know a Lutheran God lead me to the Lutheran church and I been to many different churches and i can say God's presence i have found to being the strongest within theLlutheran church.

@T_dog1

2 жыл бұрын

Luther was a tool of Satan

@koppite9600

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently Martin Luther received a vision which contradicts the book of James... faith without action is dead.. Seems legit?

@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy hell

Now we need Priest Luther about Bishop Robert

@hexahexametermeter

2 ай бұрын

That would be something, indeed!!

It's terrible that Baron doesn't talk like a Catholic, not to talk of a bishop.

o yay yay YAY!!!!!! so open, so understanding so nuanced so ecumeniacal!!!!!! now the next step is to celebrate those of us with alternative sexyness!!!!!!

@134t7

3 жыл бұрын

What?

Wow, I like the way he speaks on this.

Interesting, as a Scandinavian, brought up Protestant, yet an artist; I may see things off things missed. Here is my version. Luther was part of a period where only elites read books. The masses was in educated, and specific in Latin. So, as the priest then held sermons in Latin, only elites could follow. The masses were transfixed on all the beautiful rendering paintings , mureals and sculptures for their faith. Of course roundly exploited by overlords, sometimes priest, abuse off real estates as donations, willing or not. So a counter revolution was brewing. And, a nun shared Luther's didafaction. One, it would be" healthier if ministers off faith, ( some) married for obvious reasons. Aside, my biggest take away was his insight, sermons should be held in the local speech, so all could receive the word off God! And, he began to print the Bible in German. Now, phesants was slowly becoming educated, to reading, analizing, being in charge off their lives. This to me, was the biggest most amazing revolution for mankind in the west, later elsewhere. People owned their lives and could so to speak relate one on one with the word off God. But, as an Artist, we are aside so very blessed with all the incredible interpetations off the Gospel to this day. We, I though Protestant, studied Education in a College ( my choice), Saint Elizabeth College , Convent, NJ., Under the Sisters of Charity, with whom I connected and have very fond memories. Why, I wanted to know how the opposite Isle in the Gospel looked at life! We, are all today, going through re-evaluations, and how is it Jesus says don't look for the splinter in your brothers eye, you may have a beam in your own. The Cradle off our faith has Manny facets, faces, but above it all stand the Trinity for us all. For some the one God and disciples. But, the Ten commandments are so very clear and non negotiable. As, love thy neighbor, as they self. May we reach that some day. God Bless Bishop.🇩🇰🇺🇸🦅💜. Algorithms ...un educated...thy...

Very interesting commentary.

Martin Luther the key founder of Protestantism; in his latter life he regretted the split and the doctrine of bible alone: quote "This one will not hear of Baptism,and that one denies the sacrament, another puts a world between this and the last day: some teach that Christ is not God, some say this, some say that: there are as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No yokel is so rude but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet." De Wette III, 61. quoted in O'Hare, THE FACTS ABOUT LUTHER, 208.

“If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.” Council of Trent So you agree with this?

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