Bishop Barron on Catholicism and the Reformation

This year marks the 500 year anniversary of the Protestant Reformation, which is decidedly the greatest split in Christian Church history. Here, Bishop Barron explains how Catholicism gestures to the Reformers by celebrating the primacy of grace but always while maintaining the Biblical logic of God's non-competitive transcendence. Visit www.WordOnFire.org to learn more!

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  • @ArizonaWillful
    @ArizonaWillful5 жыл бұрын

    This man is so brilliant. He sparked in me a serious study of Catholicism, causing me to become a RCIA candidate to become a Catholic at the ripe age of 66.

  • @zackploszay1501

    @zackploszay1501

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome brother ❤

  • @querlimfranco8466

    @querlimfranco8466

    3 жыл бұрын

    welcome home.. it's never too late!

  • @VRcation

    @VRcation

    3 жыл бұрын

    What did he say that compelled you to do so?

  • @ozielramirez4589

    @ozielramirez4589

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s in error & he’s a heretic

  • @theotherkangaroo

    @theotherkangaroo

    Жыл бұрын

    How interesting! I just saw this video today & have been considering my part of my LCMS congregation for some time now. I have been married to a faithful patient Catholic man for 35 years now. Better late than never? 🤔

  • @ruanjacobs7739
    @ruanjacobs77394 жыл бұрын

    As a Protestant, I appreciate Bishop Barron's respectful way of discussing this issue and his clear explanation on why the Catholic Chuch differs from the Reformers.

  • @riseaslarks
    @riseaslarks6 жыл бұрын

    Notice also the subtle way that Bishop Barron implicitly extends another olive branch toward Protestants by acknowledging that even the areas where Luther goes wrong (i.e. his nomininalist/voluntarist tendencies) find their roots in mistakes made within the Catholic tradition by Catholic thinkers (Ockam and Scotus). In essence, Barron isn't just disavowing Luther's mistakes; Barron is also recognizing that the Catholic tradition had a hand in those mistakes. We Catholics and Protestants are brothers and sisters in the good things we share (e.g. "Grace first!") and in the missteps we are trying to correct (nominalism/voluntarism). Thank you, Bishop Barron--you are a gift to the whole Christian church.

  • @billgross3579

    @billgross3579

    3 жыл бұрын

    (A Lutheran) Amen!

  • @rocky4976

    @rocky4976

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree! Thanks again BB is a gift.

  • @ajsammut

    @ajsammut

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @reformedclassicist

    @reformedclassicist

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except many of the Reformers (i.e. Calvin) affirmed a Thomistic view of analogical knowledge (as opposed to univocal) and were NOT nominalist. Barron is certainly being very admirably courteous, but he is wrong.

  • @briandelaney9710

    @briandelaney9710

    Жыл бұрын

    Luther’s heresies not mistakes

  • @jon250
    @jon2507 жыл бұрын

    God I love that jingle at the beginning.

  • @fargothbosmer2059

    @fargothbosmer2059

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jon I HATE IT I skip it every time!!

  • @laurengalan2760

    @laurengalan2760

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love it too

  • @laurengalan2760

    @laurengalan2760

    4 жыл бұрын

    It signals something good is coming to me 🙂

  • @germaan1

    @germaan1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Using the name of God in vain was punishable by death in the Old Testament Jon

  • @Charlie-bd4yl

    @Charlie-bd4yl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@germaan1 he might have meant it as a different way like “God,” as if he were speaking to God.

  • @jofox8066
    @jofox80666 жыл бұрын

    I'm a protestant from the UK and what we mean by grace alone is that it is only through the power of God we are saved, not through our own actions so that no-one can boast. But we still believe that we need to say yes to God, to accept His divine gift although the freedom to do that is also by grace. He stands at the door and knocks, our only contribution is to open the door and that is also helped by grace. But once God is in our hearts and our lives, then the works pour out, not as a way to salvation but as a sign of it. This is what the letter of James is talking about I think. With God's love alive in our hearts the work of God flows through us naturally and if it doesn't then there is an issue with our faith. We certainly don't teach any nominalism. God is Being Itself and us, and the rest of His creation, are the things that he has made. He is uncreated, of a different order to creation, outside of creation and yet intimately involved with it. With Luther, I think God wanted his people to know the principle of gratia prima and called Luther to do it. But like all humans called to do God's work Luther was imperfect and I see nominalism as part of that. BTW Thank-you for your videos Bishop Barron - they are very helpful.

  • @RJ-oh1wr

    @RJ-oh1wr

    Жыл бұрын

    “What WE mean” and “Protestant” can’t be used in the same sentence honestly. There is no consensus among Protestants for what you believe to be true. You and your friends might believe that’s what “by grace alone” means, but I can assure you many Protestants believe another thing. If it is “by grace ALONE”, our free will is meaningless.

  • @Gmyman

    @Gmyman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RJ-oh1wrHe’s referring to those who go by The Word, not tradition and false words. Should we bring up all the rape of children every time we speak of Catholics? You’re one with them?

  • @JackGleason543

    @JackGleason543

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gmyman Should we bring up all the rape of children everytime we speak of protestants? Protestants make the Catholic church look like Little Bo Peep when it comes to rape of children. Philip Jenkins, a professor of history at both Baylor and Penn State universities, who, incidentally, has left the Catholic Church, has written a book entitled "Pedophiles and Priests, Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis" (Oxford University Press, 1966. Jenkins found 0.2 to 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy had been guilty of pedophilia while 10 percent of Protestant ministers had been found guilty of sexual misconduct with a 2 percent to 3 percent pedophilia rate. But hey, ignorant protestant trolls are a dime a dozen so at least you have a lot of company. Go back to sleep prottie.

  • @Gmyman

    @Gmyman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JackGleason543 I can only assume you lump in all non-Catholics and exclude clergy and leaders of Catholics lol, then maybe so

  • @JackGleason543

    @JackGleason543

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gmyman I can only assume you lack reading comprehension skills. Try giving it another go prottie.... Philip Jenkins, a professor of history at both Baylor and Penn State universities, who, incidentally, has left the Catholic Church, has written a book entitled "Pedophiles and Priests, Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis" (Oxford University Press, 1966. Jenkins found 0.2 to 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy had been guilty of pedophilia while 10 percent of Protestant ministers had been found guilty of sexual misconduct with a 2 percent to 3 percent pedophilia rate. Note to prottie: Key words...."Protestant ministers." Go retake your GED prottie, then go back to sleep. Lol

  • @mrstjs
    @mrstjs7 жыл бұрын

    I just converted to the Roman Catholic Church from Lutheranism 3 weeks ago. It may be the 500th anniversary of the Reformation but it is the 100th anniversary of Fatima.

  • @RosaMariaMatsuoka

    @RosaMariaMatsuoka

    7 жыл бұрын

    Welcome home!!! God guide and bless your path!

  • @citizenx7585

    @citizenx7585

    6 жыл бұрын

    mrstjs goodbless :-)

  • @pabsbenedetto773

    @pabsbenedetto773

    6 жыл бұрын

    Poor soul

  • @elrico1364

    @elrico1364

    6 жыл бұрын

    Me thinks the good Bishop must re-read Our Lady of LaSalette too. Just maybe.... maybe he'll discover what track he's actually on.

  • @patrickfoley4990

    @patrickfoley4990

    6 жыл бұрын

    mrstjs Touchez.

  • @timmiller4955
    @timmiller49557 ай бұрын

    Dearest Carlos, we seek truth and to understand. I do not seek to debate to win, only our souls united with God, and to be brothers walking in Him

  • @floydfan82
    @floydfan827 жыл бұрын

    I would love to hear Bishop Barron speak on the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification by the Lutheran World Federation and the Catholic Church. And also a video encouraging Christians to read the early Church Fathers.

  • @nottoosalty

    @nottoosalty

    7 жыл бұрын

    Joint declaration is a garbage document.

  • @Spike294

    @Spike294

    7 жыл бұрын

    By astronomical leaps and bounds.

  • @papasmurf6180

    @papasmurf6180

    7 жыл бұрын

    nottoosalty I agree. The actual sola fide doctrine of Luther was still a heresy. That document was watering down the difference without considering what Luther actually said.

  • @noxvenit

    @noxvenit

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JRobbySh Yes.

  • @1962mrpaul
    @1962mrpaul7 жыл бұрын

    A pitch perfect presentation, Bishop Barron.

  • @VRcation

    @VRcation

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you mean a baseless position devoid on scriptural defense, sure - absolutely perfect in that regard

  • @darthe78
    @darthe787 жыл бұрын

    a Lutheran from Finland thumbs up :) thanks to you and God for good informative video. I am a believer first trough the grace of God and have still a lot to learn and receive :)

  • @stevebastow9292

    @stevebastow9292

    6 жыл бұрын

    Peace To You . The 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th century.......so on so forth the First Christians The FATHERS OF THE One Holy Cathiolic Church . The FATHERS Were ALL Catholic. The Fathers of The Catholc Church Got There Teachings and Traditions DIRECTLY From The Apostles Who Got There Teachings Directly From Christ Our Lord ..... I think I will Take The Teaching Of Christ who then gave to The Apostles who gave to past down to The Fathers of The Catholic Church , the Apostles Was Their Lived With Christ & Ate With Our Lord & The Ones That was taught by Our Lord & The Ones that followed Our Lord Jesus Christ , The Apostles Laid Hands on These Fathers Of The Catholic Church . The Fathers of The Catholic Church are the ones who Followed & Lived With & Learned From The Apostles .The Fathers Of The Catholic Church Was There. That's Called The Apostolic Succession. I think We All Should And Need To Atleast Go See Read What The Earliest Christians Say . They Were THERE . And I Think You Will See Them Doing As Christ Our lord Commanded Them To Do Jn 17:17-23 I Pray That They May Be One ,As We Are ONE....You Will See The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church founded & Built By Our Lord Jesus Christ 2000 years Ago . peace to you I pray with My Lord & My God You and We all Be ONE & HAVE The Fullness of The Christian FAITH found in The Catholic Church,, in Love & Peace , Why Do We Have To Strive ? If Once Saved Always Saved ???? Strive For What THEN ? ?? Because its NOT One OR The Other, ITS BOTH it is Faith AND Works .......Faith Working in LOVE : ) . , Why Did Jesus Do All Of This ? Why Did Jesus Go Thru All Of This ? Why Didn't Jesus just let Herod kill him as a baby ? Answer:: So He Can Build His CHURCH , Jesus Once In For All Shows Us The True Way , The Truth & The Life , Jesus Establishes His Church THE ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH guided By The Holy Spirit, Always, is The Pillar & Foundation Of Truth . peace to you in Christ. my friend keep seeking and enter in The Fullness Of The Christian Faith given to us by Our Lord Jesus Christ. How Did Christ intend that we receive the Deposit of the Christian Faith ? Mt 16:18-19 Mt 18:17-18 1Tim 3:15 / the Church is The Body of Christ Col 1:18 THE CHURCH MUST BE ONE Jn 10:16 Eph 4:3-6 Rom 116:17 1Cor 1:10 Phil 2:2 Rom 15:5 JOHN 17:17 Jn 17:23 1Cor 12:13 Rom12:5 Eph 4:4 Col 3:15 The Church is Apostolic Jn 15:16 Jn 20:21 - Our Lord built his Church on Apostle Peter Mt 16:18 , one shepherd to shepherd Christ's sheep Jn 10:16 , Apostle Peter was appointed to be chef shepherd Lk 22:32 Jn 21:17 , Church leaders are hierarchical and has roles and bishops are commissioned to ordain priests Eph 4:11 1Tim 3:1, & 8 + 5:17 Tit 1:5 ., Authoritative Church Jesus Our Lord delegates all power to Apostles(the first Bishops) Mt 28:18-20 the power to forgive sin Jn 20:23 , offer sacrifice (Eucharist) 1Cor 11:23-24 , speak with Christ voice Lk 10:16 , to legislate Mt 18:18 , to discipline Mt 18:17 ., Church is Infallible Jn 16:13 + 14:26 1Tim 3:15 1Jn 2:27 Acts 15:28 Mt 28:20 the Perpetual Church Is 9:6-7 Dan 2:44 + 7:14 Lk 1:32-33 Mt 7:24 + 13:24-30 + 16:18 + 28:19-20 . How Blessed We Are Our Lord Jesus Christ gave us his Church The One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church founded and Built By Our Lord Jesus Christ 2000 years ago , so we may Know The Fullness of The Christian Faith the Holy Catholic Church is the answer and Everything Points To Christ who is The Way Truth Life and the Catholic Church only mission is About Souls getting into heaven. Jn 17:17-23 Amen . Keep seeking my friend - with prayer & open mind & heart - one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one church the body of Christ - The Catholic Church built by Our Lord is the Fullness of the deposit of faith . For over 2000 years now they all believed and Lived this Truth , THE CHURCH MUST BE ONE Jn 10:16 Eph 4:3-6 Rom 116:17 1Cor 1:10 Phil 2:2 Rom 15:5 JOHN 17:17 Jn 17:23 1Cor 12:13 Rom12:5 Eph 4:4 Col 3:15 And All The apostles all of the Early Christians believed This ,,,,, the new is revealed in the old & the old is revealed from the new , - all thru the entire bible you see signs of the coming of the True Lamb Of God who will Take Away The Sins Of The World and u see now hear John The Baptist Now has Proclaimed it , you didn't just have to sacrifice the lamb and put blood on the door But You Also had To Eat The Lamb. yes literally ,that's how St. Peter and St. Paul who is Very Catholic took it and all the Early Christians took it and they did this in memory & to keep Proclaiming Christ's death buried and the resurrection our Risen Glorified Lord --- and yes Mary is the Mother Of God just think what that means LK 1:28 LK 1;42 LK 1:48 Lk 1:43 Mt 1:23 LK 1:35 Gal 4:4 -- how Awesome it is to see someone so joyful in there journey on finding the FULLNESS of the Christian Faith with/ by Christ & Christ Holy Catholic Church ,,,, to get the Catholic Teachings I do recommend to go to the Catholic Sources-- there is a answers to all your Question - I recommend Catholic Answers or EWTN or all of SCOTT HAHNS work , ,, we are all called to Communion -- peace to you my brother ps Confession Mt 9:2-8 Jn 20:22-23 2Cor 5:17-20 James 5:13-15 Jam 5:16 Mt 18:18 1Jn 5:16 YES Jesus Christ Our Lord and Our God has Done It , Yes Christ Has Fulfilled - Yes Christ has Saved , Yes Christ is Our Savior period , as Long as I STAY IN CHRIST, ABIDE in Christ , Christ Abides IN you , -- " Believe, Obey and Pick up Your Cross and Follow me" ---- so **** I can now say " I Have Been Saved" Rom 8:24 Eph 2: 5, 8 2Tim 1:9 Tit 3:5 **** I can say " I am being saved " Phil 2:12 1Pet 1:9 **** I can say "i will be saved " Mt 10:22 Mt 24:13 Mk 8:35 Acts 15:11 Rom 5:9-10 Rom 13:11 1Cor 3:15 1Cor 5:5 Heb 9:28 ...... The Catholic Church Founded and Built by Our Lord Jesus Christ 2000 years ago is The FULLNESS of The Christian Faith -- All of Our Lord Has Given Us and is Still Giving us his Pouring Of LOVE . -- keep seeking my brother open mind & heart thinking of heavenly & Holy Ways ....... peace to you my brother . Abides IN Christ , -- " Believe, Obey and Pick up Your Cross and Follow Me . Peace to you my brother. St. Paul's words affirms doctrine on salvation , that good works belong to the economy of salvation ,that some effort, some element of cooperation on our part is necessary ." WORK out your salvation" We work, but it is God who works through us in a way that we too work , also causing us to Desire His Goodness. . its Faith AND Good deeds The Word of GOD says it 1Cor 13:2 Mt 7:21 and Mt 19:16-17 Jn 14:21 Jn 14:15 Rom 2:2-8 Gal 5:4-6 Eph 2:8-10 Phil 2:12-13 Jam 2:14 our Lord Jesus Christ is and has the Fullness of the Faith - Enjoy All of the Fullness, the Glory ,the Good , the LOVE of Jesus Christ Our Lord . Amen --- peace to you my Brother JAMES 2 : 24 and we will be judged according to DEEDS Rom 2:5-8 2Cor 5:10 2Cor 11:15 1Pet 1:17 Rev 20:12-13 Col 3:24-25 .. assurance of salvation Mt 24:13 Mt 7:21 Rom 11:22 Phil 2:12 1Cor 9:27 1Cor 10:11-12 Gal 5:4 2Tim 2:11-13 Hb 6:4-6 Heb 10:22 --- keep seeking with Love & open mind & heart & thru thinking a Heavenly way ,. Jesus Christ and His Holy Catholic Church founded & built by Our Lord Jesus Christ 2000 years ago Is The Fullness of Our Christian Faith. Amen

  • @jamesblack8173
    @jamesblack81737 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating. Makes me understand my own Scots Calvinist heritage, and why I struggle with it. I intuitively agree with the ipsum esse understanding of God.

  • @RGTomoenage11

    @RGTomoenage11

    6 жыл бұрын

    James Black we are awaiting you in the Catholic church. Come back

  • @hughlee8634

    @hughlee8634

    5 жыл бұрын

    roger on the contrary I disagree. I feel sympathetic to some earlier reformers ranging from Anglicans to Calvinists... and my only problem is upon the fundamentalists and literalists whom are very cynical. As a Catholic, I’d say take it slowly and think through this. Being a Catholic may mean you need to have your children educated as Catholics, you also have the responsibility to fulfil particular responsibilities like confession (they say it yearly but I think yearly is not enough), obeying some instructions from the Bishops on matters like fasting (but Catholics don’t do it so strictly) To be accepted as a Catholic isn’t difficult, but perhaps read a few more things till you decide. I’ve seen so many stories of conversion: but for Catholics we take time gently.

  • @hughlee8634

    @hughlee8634

    5 жыл бұрын

    James Black academically wise, CS Lewis is an Anglican sharing similar sentiments with Catholics. Start with his work if you haven’t come across with him. Mere Christianity is more philosophical; Surprised by Joy requires literature knowledge to understand.

  • @internetenjoyer1044

    @internetenjoyer1044

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hughlee8634 I personally find the Calvinist God to be a moral monster, who sets up the world such that one man's sin (Adam) metaphysically condemns us to, by no fault of our own, deserve eternal torment. I also can't make sense of Christ's sacrifice on the cross under Calvinism. If we deserve to go to hell but God in his mercy chooses an arbitrary number among us to be saved, and His choice of that number alone is what saves them, why sacrifice your son, or have Christianity at all? Just save your elect and be done with it. On the other hand, I disagree with Catholic teaching on mortal sin, priestly confession, papal infallibility, and other points despite having a deep respect for many Catholic teachings regarding salvation and the beauty of its worship. The only place I seem to fit is the Anglican Via Media, the middle road between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism; I guess more specifically the liberal wing of the Anglo Catholic wing of the Church of England. But even that seems to be dying out as low church evangelicals are slowly taking ground in the Church of England. Sad times.

  • @RGTomoenage11

    @RGTomoenage11

    4 жыл бұрын

    Steven Irizarry The harlot is not a church.... read before you speak. Don’t be a fool....

  • @JoeyC0914
    @JoeyC09146 жыл бұрын

    God Bless Bishop Barron! Many thanks, keep up the good work of preaching the Gospel on the KZread channel.

  • @thomassimmons1950
    @thomassimmons19504 жыл бұрын

    I was raised Lutheran, but always held a profound reverence for Catholicism. Many of my deepest relationships over the years have been with Catholics, and I attend Mass from time to time out of a great awe and respect for the tradition. Bishop Barron, who I follow, is a great Theologian and cultural observer. I pray for the reconciliation of the Universal Church and a restoration of all Saints at the end of all things.

  • @georgeibrahim7945

    @georgeibrahim7945

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Simmons Jesus only wanted one church, the word catholic means universal and can be traced back till the first century, it’s a shame especially over the last few centuries thousands of denominations have started turning up interpreting scripture differently. Study the early church fathers and you will find the Catholic Church, i would suggest downloading the Catholic answers app and listening to former protestants such as Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples and Steve Ray.

  • @fragwagon
    @fragwagon7 жыл бұрын

    Well it can't be stated much more beautifully than that. Thank you Bishop Barron!

  • @Tonytonytone582
    @Tonytonytone5826 жыл бұрын

    When you talked about nominalist and analogical views, it was very enlightening. I have never heard this before, thank you very much for these videos. I wish this one would have been longer.

  • @markmurphy9625
    @markmurphy96256 жыл бұрын

    The clarity with which you convey the spirit of the reformers is almost as stunning as the way you find there is goodness in it. You are in my prayers as are all of the princess of the church. God bless and Mary keep you. St Joseph protect the church. St Jacinta thank you for suffering so much in reperation for words such as these.

  • @jamaicanification
    @jamaicanification7 жыл бұрын

    Great video bishop barron. Speaking as an Anglican I think one of the differences is more along the lines of the definition of justification. In protestant ism justification and sanctification are seen as 2 distinct things. In catholicism they are the same. This touches the Sola gratia principle because protestants stress we can't earn gods grace, but once given we let it flow through our lives in the process of sanctification. One of the problems on the protestant side though is people interpret Sola gratia to mean what Dietrich bonhoeffer called "cheap grace". Luther condemned that view in the version on the antinomian heresy actually writing 250 theses against it.

  • @ryanjordan3043

    @ryanjordan3043

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alfredhitchcock45 my wife, who was raised Baptist, pointed out a darker side of the Born Again heritage to me the other day. If it doesn't lead to presumption (what you describe above) then it can lead to despair, as they emphasize that if you go on sinning, you were never "really" saved in the first place. You have to question whether everything you've been living and believing to that point is a lie because of some poor judgment in the present. In the end, that offers little more spiritual security than the Catholic doctrine of justifying grace that is lost entirely by mortal sin, but it all depends on whether you have a character more prone to the sin of presumption or the sin of despair.

  • @internetenjoyer1044

    @internetenjoyer1044

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanjordan3043 I also find that style of Christianity worrying because it seems to fetishize the feeling of the holy spirit, and the worship reflect and preocupation with getting that sensation over all else. The music (God it's cringy) isn't artistic, it's just designed to evoke a feeling, almost mechanically. And the effect of peer pressure, and of suggestion, that comes from the expectation that everyone jumps in the air and makes an active show of how Spirit filled they are, leaves me open to considerable doubt as to whether something psycological, rather than spiritual, is going on.

  • @wendyhong8528
    @wendyhong85284 жыл бұрын

    I hope by now you are a Catholic. I became a Catholic when I was 22 years old. I went through a lot of tears and pain to leave the Protestant church. I also went through much research and reading from both Catholics and Protestants. I could not help noticing the peace once I became Catholic. It is so hard to describe but I know I am not alone in describing this peace that I could not find find in the Protestant church. I am now in my middle age. I feel so blessed everyday that I am Catholic. It is like seeing a bit of Heaven on Earth. God bless!

  • @linde50

    @linde50

    2 ай бұрын

    I am Christian, the peace is giving by Christ not by a political religious organization

  • @richricks78

    @richricks78

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@linde50Amen!

  • @hass1090
    @hass10904 жыл бұрын

    Thank you father for teaching me

  • @vivat_in_aeternum7721
    @vivat_in_aeternum77215 жыл бұрын

    This video is fantastic. Glory be to God in high

  • @keithwilliams6956
    @keithwilliams69564 жыл бұрын

    For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. - Ephesians 2: 8-9

  • @lizmiddleton2382
    @lizmiddleton2382 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you Bishop. Thank You for the great explanation. 😊

  • @manuelrodo2061
    @manuelrodo20613 жыл бұрын

    thanks from Malta youv been very clear God bless

  • @kateoneill7226
    @kateoneill72265 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could have been in his classes. Wow.

  • @francmittelo6731
    @francmittelo67313 жыл бұрын

    These videos are so great in helping people (who can critically think and are not attracted to tradition) out of religion. They can so obvious that ALL religions are human made. Humans are just making these things up as they go along and learn new things.

  • @csapienza001
    @csapienza0012 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @sailingvesselislandgirl2261
    @sailingvesselislandgirl22616 жыл бұрын

    Robert - May God's grace continue to enlighten you with His word. How wonderful is the example of the 24 elders in the book of Revelation that throw their crowns of glory at the feet of our Lord. By His grace we are enlightened to His grace. We co-operate by responding which is our free will offering. All increase comes from Him in the same manner as we grow in Christ. We are justified once into salvation and become a new being in Christ created for HIS good works prepared for us (if we cooperate by faith). Are we saved by works? No! Even as we exist it is only by His grace. Praise God. Any "good" work that I might do is only by His grace and any crown of glory that I might receive is rightfully Christ's. Continued justification? Must I continue to do works do be justified again and again? NO! We are saved by grace through faith. Not of ourselves not of works lest anyone should boast! But I am saved FOR the good works the Lord has for me to do. I left the Catholic church for this very distinction. I now truly understand God's grace and that HE has done it all and continues to sanctify me by the cleansing of His word (if I co-operate). I can DO nothing to save myself. In the desert when God gave Moses the instructions for building the alter it was to be built with unhewned rock (made by God) without any step up (He would lift us up). If we humble ourselves before the Lord HE will lift us up. HE DOES IT ALL. And He is our all in all. Our part is to co-operate in faith. God does the rest. May God bless

  • @grantbartley483
    @grantbartley4832 жыл бұрын

    You have the grace to find grace as a common ground, so thanks for your intentions. Love the idea of God as ipsum esse, too.

  • @michaelobrien6294
    @michaelobrien62943 жыл бұрын

    Let the Word be the umpire - Eph ch 2 v 8 & 9 By Grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God; not of works lest any man should boast

  • @nottoosalty
    @nottoosalty7 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! I'd love to see more of your take on Council of Trent, Bishop Barron.

  • @nottoosalty

    @nottoosalty

    7 жыл бұрын

    Anathema, in church parlance, means excommunicated.

  • @nottoosalty

    @nottoosalty

    7 жыл бұрын

    The burden of proof is on you to provide evidence that it is anything other than excommunication. You can argue that an anathema is a condemnation in that you are barred from the sacraments (save reconciliation), as the sacraments are a means to grace, and in that sense they are condemning themselves (for it is the individual who condemns himself) by explicitly rejecting God's grace, but even a person who is excommunicated is required to attend Mass. To more answer your question as to what an anathema (of the time period, as you're requesting is). I'll use this paragraph I'm lifting from Jimmy Akin "To put the matter concisely: The term “anathema,” as used in conciliar and canon law documents, refers to a type of excommunication. In particular (as in the 1917 Code of Canon Law), it referred to a type of excommunication that the bishop performed using a special ceremony. This ceremony involved (among other things) the ringing of a bell, the closing of a book, and the snuffing of a candle. Hence the phrase “bell, book, and candle” (that’s where it comes from; it has nothing to do with witchcraft). These collectively symbolized that the ecclesiastical court had made its ruling against the offender and would not reconsider until he repents. There was then another special ritual of reconciliation for the lifting of the anathema." www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/are-you-anathema-how-about-your-protestant-friend He cites more information at the bottom if you're interested.

  • @nottoosalty

    @nottoosalty

    7 жыл бұрын

    You're the one asserting a claim that excommunicated is different from "Anathema", the one who asserts a claim needs to be able to defend that claim, you don't ask your opponent to defend against an assertion that hasn't been backed by evidence. Nevertheless, If you click on the "Read more" of the comment you replied to, I did, in fact, provide said evidence.

  • @nottoosalty

    @nottoosalty

    7 жыл бұрын

    So the Catholic Church, the same Church that held trent, can't define Her own words? That's not an assertion, it's an historical fact. I'm not really sure what more you want past the Church's own definition for things. Beside the point, I gave you exactly what you wanted earlier. Please respond to that.

  • @nottoosalty

    @nottoosalty

    7 жыл бұрын

    Also, your question is an implied assertion. The assertion being that the words have different meanings.

  • @petergrey4151
    @petergrey41517 жыл бұрын

    As a Protestant who has now listened to many of these short videos I think I may be Catholic after all. :-) Certainly the reservation the Catholic Church maintains regarding "grace alone" through its concept of our co-operation with God's grace makes for a more elegant understanding of how grace functions existentially than Calvin's "TULIP" or in another strain of Protestantism. Wesley's "prevenient grace". I like that it allows for us to retain, no matter how horribly defaced, some semblance of the image of God within us that, inherently seeks re-communion with God.

  • @specialgradetre

    @specialgradetre

    7 жыл бұрын

    Peter Grey Next step, join RCIA! :) I became Catholic this year.

  • @rlburton

    @rlburton

    7 жыл бұрын

    I remember being a Protestant and reading the Catholic Catechism for the first time after years of struggling with Calvin and Luther; it was like the pages were made of solid gold.

  • @raelynearnest3176

    @raelynearnest3176

    7 жыл бұрын

    Peter Grey come home. We are waiting for you with open arms!

  • @mountvisioncampagneequestr6230

    @mountvisioncampagneequestr6230

    7 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know they were mutually exclusive. :-) Seriously though, the socio economic and political dimensions that played such a huge part in the formulation of protestant doctrine as deliberately contrary to established Catholic doctrine of the period did see the baby being thrown out with the bathwater. I think it is high time the Protestant Church reclaimed and re-valued its historical strengths that remain important in the Catholic Tradition. As Bishop Barron notes, the Catholic Church at Trent and at Vatican II has been wise enough to acknowledge the contribution of Protestantism to our shared Faith. Ultimately we are called upon to Do Justice, Love Mercy and Walk Humbly with our God. We do this through the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and active engagement in participating in the implications of such requirements placed on us by God the Father.

  • @rlburton

    @rlburton

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tim- As I have said to you on previous occasions, if you would like good true understanding of actual Catholic Doctrine, then KZread comments are not your best resource.

  • @leeowwh
    @leeowwh5 жыл бұрын

    How beautifully he ended this video by quoting Isaiah 26: 12 "O Lord, you will ordain peace for us, for indeed, all that we have done, you have done for us." Thank you Bishop Barron. Gratia Sola, is a heresy, when we try to understand it fundamentally in the light of Holy Scriptures.

  • @joecastillo8798
    @joecastillo87984 жыл бұрын

    A timely subject.

  • @PolymorphicPenguin
    @PolymorphicPenguin2 жыл бұрын

    Bishop Barron, you are so kind. It's reassuring that you are able to see some good in a movement that was definitely quite antagonistic towards Catholicism. I hope that there are some Protestant leaders who are able to say, "Well, I don't agree 100% with Catholicism, but I really like their teaching of _____". I'm certainly not a leader, but I'm going to go ahead and say that though I don't agree with Catholicism 100%, I love your practice of confession. I wish there was a regular opportunity to confess sins to a mature Christian at my Protestant church. I think saying our sins out loud really helps us to focus on them and turn to God to escape them.

  • @shelholl4moloweeatwh
    @shelholl4moloweeatwh7 жыл бұрын

    I am an evangelical Christian all my life --- 57 years --- and agree with every word the bishop said. I think the Protestant component that does not stress cooperation with grace is , at this point in time, not a mainstream understanding.

  • @andrewyeager8710

    @andrewyeager8710

    4 жыл бұрын

    shelholl4moloweeatwh because it’s heresy Eph. 2:8-10

  • @praizejesus5772
    @praizejesus57723 жыл бұрын

    "Luther & company" lmao This guy is awesome.

  • @katypatommel6376
    @katypatommel63767 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for all you videos Your Grace, I'm currently considering becoming a catholic (currently I'm lutheran) and your videos are one of the reasons for it. Could I ask you a favour? Could you maybe make a video about why one should become catholic? Obviously I do have my own reasons, but I'm sometimes struggling to keep up my determination knowing that my family is very unhappy about my decision. A bit of encouragement and a few good arguments for discussions would be very helpful :)

  • @katypatommel6376

    @katypatommel6376

    7 жыл бұрын

    I cannot know if I would go to heaven unless I would actually die, I think.

  • @reginasong5733

    @reginasong5733

    7 жыл бұрын

    I recommend "Surprised by Truth" by Patrick Madrid which illustrates several conversion stories, if you haven't read yet.

  • @katypatommel6376

    @katypatommel6376

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi tim, where did you get you quote from? Thanks for the answer by the way :)

  • @katypatommel6376

    @katypatommel6376

    7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't read the book , I might have a look, thanks Regina :). I have read quite a bit catholic as well as protestant theology. My problem is more that I talked to our pastor from back home and he told me I shouldn't worry about justification since the protestant and catholic understanding are very similar know and should rather be thinking about what I think about the church hierarchy, women ordination etc. (my Dad told me basically the same). I should also note here that the German protestant and catholic church are both very ecumenical. So my question is more, why would it be necessary (if that makes sense)?

  • @billybob-bj3nw

    @billybob-bj3nw

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hey Rey, why not come over to the Catholicism subreddit? Reddit.com/r/catholicism We have many people come ask questions, and theological and philosophical geniuses who will respond to you! In the mean time, why not check out the book "The Fathers Know Best" by Jimmy Akin? It provides proof that everything the Catholic Church practices is exactly what the Church Fathers believed and thought. Thanks for giving us a look!

  • @555hansy
    @555hansy6 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a Video on John Calvin?

  • @trevorwarren4160

    @trevorwarren4160

    3 жыл бұрын

    This would be great

  • @hpa2005
    @hpa20057 жыл бұрын

    I'm not looking to cause an argument, but Martin Luther's aim was not to cause a split with the Catholic church.

  • @taylor.rafferty

    @taylor.rafferty

    4 жыл бұрын

    @hpa2005 he wouldn’t have made it through Augustinian training if he was committed to the Church. His 95 thesis were posted out of love for the Catholic Faith

  • @zacharyayaga6661

    @zacharyayaga6661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@taylor.rafferty I agree

  • @ezekiel3626
    @ezekiel36267 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the explanation Bishop. I often am curious of your commentary on my tradition. I know it's old now but what about something on The Purpose Driven Life?

  • @Lord_Sturmmiester
    @Lord_Sturmmiester7 жыл бұрын

    I subscribed!

  • @barbann5091
    @barbann50915 жыл бұрын

    You said (paraphrasing - I hope correctly) "If we had been a bit more open to considering Luther's complaints, things may have turned out different." Yes, true, and I noticed an interesting comparison. I am Catholic but sometimes listen to teachers in other traditions just to see what they have to say. I was listening to Rabbi Henry Abramson's talk on the Apostle Paul and he told the story from the Talmud about Jewish leaders evicting Christians from the synagogue about the year 100. The sentiment was almost the same. He said "Maybe we pushed with both hands and if we were a little less severe, perhaps things would have turned out different."

  • @lifeoftoast1864
    @lifeoftoast18642 жыл бұрын

    "Lest any man should boast" Flys right in and disproves the idea that they are not in competition.

  • @dinhhoangtu311
    @dinhhoangtu3117 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful argument. Thank you. God bless you, bishop Robert!

  • @AlejandroFernandez-dd4gv
    @AlejandroFernandez-dd4gv4 жыл бұрын

    As ex-Catholic who is now Protestant I want to celebrate the Spirit with which Bishop Barron approaches this delicate and complicated issue. Job well done

  • @Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard
    @Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard7 жыл бұрын

    Im proud to say that spain, which was the greatest superpower at the time and the Master of the world was the greatest fighter of the faith. Nearly a 70 percent of catholics today are catholic thnks to spain. hell yeah

  • @Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard

    @Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah only that the english didnt last as Long as the spanish.

  • @RGTomoenage11

    @RGTomoenage11

    6 жыл бұрын

    handsome boss all day Because Henry wanted a divorce. Tbe protestant influence from England is way stronger than the Lutheran influence.

  • @pabsbenedetto773

    @pabsbenedetto773

    6 жыл бұрын

    Spain is a spiritual desert one of the most ungodly places in the world Spanish people do not believe the gospel of grace very sad.

  • @RGTomoenage11

    @RGTomoenage11

    6 жыл бұрын

    Pabs Benedetto Is this coming from an American?

  • @pabsbenedetto773

    @pabsbenedetto773

    6 жыл бұрын

    No is coming from a Christian that knows Spanish society

  • @norsemoen
    @norsemoen7 жыл бұрын

    Father Barron, I appreciate your nuanced point of view in the midst of the talking points that so often bog down conversations in our tit-for-tat atmosphere of social media. Your approach's success proves the point that we need to slow down and appreciate both sides of the conversation, whatever that conversation that might be. In regards to the grand conversation that started 500 years ago, I reside as a product of the Reformation in my own specific disagreement known as the Stone-Campbell Movement. However, I am part of a generation that yearns for a greater connectedness to the historic church all the while trying to maintain fidelity to the tradition that brought me to the faith. How have you approached conversations with large-tent Protestants who recognize the importance of the unified church? Do you encourage them down a particular path (i.e. joining the larger capital "C" Catholic church), or you do you see value in their continuing effort in the tradition of their youth?

  • @HobbitDick
    @HobbitDick7 жыл бұрын

    because of his teaching, it made me want to be a catholic priest.

  • @RomanusVII

    @RomanusVII

    6 жыл бұрын

    vito S Lol, same

  • @supergene256

    @supergene256

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wow!!

  • @75MalcolmX
    @75MalcolmX5 жыл бұрын

    Branch and a trunk are not in competition. Jesus is the vine we are the branches.

  • @josephscuruchi9762
    @josephscuruchi97627 жыл бұрын

    Grace alone has never truly been the issue. I would enjoy a discussion on Faith Alone. Thanks

  • @syfkog5236

    @syfkog5236

    7 жыл бұрын

    Multiple "Solas" or "Alones" has never made logical sense to me.

  • @absw6129
    @absw61297 жыл бұрын

    I think the idea of cooperation with grace (as opposed to the lutheran view) can also be supported by reading Aquinas. In summa contra gentiles, he argues that we can achieve "imperfect happiness" on earth, but to achieve perfect happiness, we need to purify our souls so we can have knowledge of God. So if the goal we have is to be as happy as possible, God's grace is there to realize that happiness. So according to that theology, we don't actually have to "give up" any part of our happiness to get closer to God.

  • @greatleviathan382
    @greatleviathan3827 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video your Eminence, You have helped me come out of the fierce hatred I had for the Catholic Church due to misunderstanding of it's teachings and believing historical myths and fallacies surrounding the church. I don't consider myself a protestant anymore and want to keep learning about the rich history of the church and it's members. My firmly protestant Dad really respects you and thinks your a funny/smart guy. God bless you Barron hopefully you become a cardinal someday haha.

  • @supergene256

    @supergene256

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I'm glad to read your comment! I'm praying for you!

  • @pachulin2001
    @pachulin20017 жыл бұрын

    Translated from an article of Fr. Jose Maria Iraburu worth reading: The ancestors or contemporaries of Martin Luther (1483-1546), those who by their teaching, example or preaching more prestige and influence had in the Christianity of their time, always taught the true Catholic doctrine of grace and justification, and were free of all plague of pelagianism or semi-pelagianism. I remember some: St. Hildegard of Bingen (+1179), St. Dominic of Guzman (+1221), St. Francis of Assisi (+1226), St. Anthony of Padua (+1231), Blessed Ricerius of Mucia (+1236), David of Augsburg 1272), St. Thomas Aquinas (+1274), St. Bonaventure (+1274), St. Gertrude of Helfta (+1302), Santa Angela of Foligno (+1309), Master Eckahrt (+1328), Taulero (+1361), Blessed Henry Suson (+1366), Saint Bridget of Sweden (+1373), Saint Catherine of Siena (+1380), Ruysbroeck (+1381), Blessed Raimundo de Capua (+1399), St. Vincent Ferrer, St. Bernardino of Siena (+1444), St John of Capistrano (+1456), Blessed Thomas of Kempis (+1471), St. Catherine of Genoa (+1507), Bernabé de Palma (+1532), Francis of Osuna (+1540), St Ignatius of Loyola (+1556), St Peter of Alcántara (+1562), St John of Ávila (+1569), and so many others... Did not these saints, doctors, preachers, and spiritual masters know the gratuity of man's justification by the grace that has its beginning in faith? Did the "understanding" of salvation as pure grace bestowed by the Lord for a period of time "obscure in their time" "for centuries" "at least in preaching"? ... This is a great slander which is spread throughout the world today by the Catholic media, will be believed by not a few Christians of little formation, for the glory of Luther and his Reformation, and for dishonor of the Holy Mother Catholic Church.

  • @SuperIliad
    @SuperIliad2 жыл бұрын

    "Characters of the Reformation" by Belloc, a must read to grasp the width and breadth of the so-called Reformation.

  • @MouthwashTyphoon
    @MouthwashTyphoon7 жыл бұрын

    This is interesting, because I've just read the document in which the Church excommunicated Martin Luther and the other heretics. I found it fascinating, and this too!

  • @rachelgillott8888
    @rachelgillott88886 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video! Bishop Barron, would you be interested in or willing to compose a video on John Calvin/Calvinism?

  • @praxidescentenoortiz9664
    @praxidescentenoortiz96644 жыл бұрын

    And living in everyone of us to the End times! 😊

  • @praxidescentenoortiz9664
    @praxidescentenoortiz96644 жыл бұрын

    Long life to Jesús Christ! 😇😇😇👶👼 Loving in everyone of us to the End times.💖💞💕

  • @Oo7Hola
    @Oo7Hola4 жыл бұрын

    I am thankful for being born a catholic but I am Mad at my self for not learning and practicing it more than I should. Or being educated in a Catholic Church.

  • @buffuzo4201
    @buffuzo42013 ай бұрын

    The first thing that comes up when you are looking for the right answer is the answer.

  • @ozzymosley5137
    @ozzymosley51377 жыл бұрын

    I think an Order of Lutherans in the Catholic Church would've been pretty cool, honestly.

  • @QuisutDeusmpc

    @QuisutDeusmpc

    7 жыл бұрын

    Although, since the Franciscans and the Dominicans use the founders' first names, it may have been called the 'Martinians'.

  • @ozzymosley5137

    @ozzymosley5137

    7 жыл бұрын

    But it doesn't even have a nice flow to it!

  • @QuisutDeusmpc

    @QuisutDeusmpc

    7 жыл бұрын

    Be that as it may, if I'm not mistaken, in addition to a 'Eugene', I believe there was a pope who took the name 'Martin', likely after St. Martin de Porres.

  • @RomanusVII

    @RomanusVII

    6 жыл бұрын

    QuisutDeus. mpc Meh, Lutheran sounds a bit better tbh.

  • @jonmkl

    @jonmkl

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Lutheran Church would be a lot better off today if it was an order in the Catholic Church :-/ it hasn’t fared the best out of the reformed churches... though honestly most have fared rather poorly...

  • @alanbourbeau24
    @alanbourbeau245 жыл бұрын

    I have nothing against Protestant Christians. Whether they’re Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican/Episcopalian, Presbyterian, UCC, Congregational, Pentecostal, Seventh Day Adventist. At work. I have 2 friends of mine who are ministers of their own churches. 1. Baptist. 2. Pentecostal. And they don’t have anything against me as a Catholic.

  • @yehoshuamelech7529
    @yehoshuamelech75295 жыл бұрын

    It's so weird having grown up in secular NZ from a Protestant/Pentecostal perspective, yet through reading scripture for myself and reflecting on it's teachings, coming to these same conclusions. That God gives grace by choosing to love, create, and save us, and we respond in faith which is made real/alive by our actions as a result of said faith. And that God has accomplished all that we have done. that we are Co-Authors of the world with God because that is how God wills for it to be. All this seemed so obvious to me without the indoctrination of Calvinistic thinking... Unfortunately I have always found the legalistic notions throughout all denominations and the catholic institutions to be a massive cloud around what the true function of any leader really is. I can't commit myself to Catholicism yet because I don't understand or I can't with good conscience commit myself to the Truth of the dogma of the Catholic Church as if they were not capable of erring... I just don't understand why people think this is the case... Why is there no appeal process of humble intrigue and apologetic response from the leadership promoted throughout the church in order to encourage people to take ownership of their beliefs. I believe this is what would invigorate new priests and theologians and philosophers within Catholicism and would bring in a large movement of people uniting all the communities and individual pursuers of God.

  • @strive4252
    @strive42524 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I've ever heard Protestantism be so kindly put to shame in my life!

  • @joshmccleave2032
    @joshmccleave20322 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being at a Mass led by Barron.

  • @PlayToWinAllTime
    @PlayToWinAllTime7 жыл бұрын

    Fr Mike Schmitz made a video about it comparing our church to a boat and that other boats are made from that boat, but they don't necessarily swim the right path. I recommend it. Also I have a small request to Fr Robert: can you please make a video aboout early christians martyrs? I mean atheists claim Jesus didn't resurrect (if He did then nothing else matters) and that makes early martyrs the dumbest people on earth ever, why would people die for a lie knowingly (some of them knew Jesus) and gaining nothing but pain?

  • @JulioCaesarTM

    @JulioCaesarTM

    5 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't matter, Ignorance and closedmindedness will cause them to reduce it. Kinda like how 70,000 were hallucinating in sync at Fatima, which ironically is a miracle.

  • @orangemanbad
    @orangemanbad Жыл бұрын

    Bishop, nice Rolex Daytona! Beautiful piece. I’ve been wanting that watch for years but can’t afford the 75,000$ price tag!

  • @ken8334

    @ken8334

    2 ай бұрын

    Nah.

  • @MrArtbyart
    @MrArtbyart4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, for validating what I (a devout Catholic) have always recognized as having valuable from Protestants. I wish they were as Ecumenically gracious to us, though. Question: If the schism had only become a separate order, would the evils of Colonialism been avoided (Opium wars, slave trading, genocides, confiscation of vital resources, etc)?

  • @anthonyfranco5012

    @anthonyfranco5012

    3 жыл бұрын

    The safe bet is probably no as the imagination of the human heart is fallen from the beginning but I think that the type of colonialism and the attitude of the colonizing countries would have more closely resembled the Spanish, French, and Portuguese models of colonialism rather than the anglo-dutch model. Spain had placed all of the natives in their newly acquired territories under the direct protection of the Spanish crown as fellow brothers and sisters that needed to be instructed in the faith and molded into proper members of the Spanish kingdom. Of course atrocities do arise and the distance between seville and Mexico meant that the natives had to rely on the kindness of their benefactors but the attempt was made. This is why the Spanish and French had greater ties to the natives than the English or Dutch as the former viewed them as people who with God and proper instruction would become equal to the Europeans while the latter viewed them as savages who though could be catechized would never the less remain as such.

  • @thebacons5943

    @thebacons5943

    2 жыл бұрын

    Catholic states were colonialist as well

  • @gor764
    @gor7647 жыл бұрын

    Bishop Barron can you talk about Ignatius' discernment of spirits?

  • @drizer4real
    @drizer4real Жыл бұрын

    I like Bishop Barron, no negative word to say about the man, but he focusses on the theological part (difference between catholics vs protestants) of the Reformation imho that is only part if the story, it was also very entangled in the local politics of that time ( Holy Roman Empire, Habsburg Netherlands, France , England etc) and the various local factions andd rulers used the then new phenomenon to bolster their own influence and power. It lead to brutal gruesome religious wars in France , the Netherlands, the Holy Roman Empire causing thousands of deaths and immense suffering, creating division and hatred for centuries.

  • @bobaphat3676

    @bobaphat3676

    11 ай бұрын

    Luther collaborating with the German Princes to steal Church property, that was a big motivation behind the Reformation, it was process of looting the Catholic Church. In other words, it was motivated by Greed. Luther went too far.

  • @georgeroberts442
    @georgeroberts4424 жыл бұрын

    Why no mention of the Joint Declaration On The Doctrine Of Justification (between the Catholic Church and the Lutheran Church) issued by the Vatican in which it is stated: "Together we confess: By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping and calling us to good works." That seems mighty important to me.

  • @williammerriman4138
    @williammerriman4138Ай бұрын

    Bishop Barron, honest question here. I’m currently wrestling with these ideas. How would you explain the verses like “he must increase, I must decrease” or “it is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me”? How do those verses fit into the non-competitive view of God?

  • @johnprentice1474
    @johnprentice14742 жыл бұрын

    Luther never wanted to split up the church and should have been regarded in the same way as critics and reformers who came before him. His beliefs were in line with many people who are now considered saints in the Catholic church. Rome had too much pride and avarice at the time and caused the divide. I wish Catholics would remember that Christian history doesn't belong to them alone. We have a shared history and Protestants have just as much of a claim to the Church Fathers as Rome does. In fact, most church fathers would probably have agreed with Luther rather than Rome.

  • @TD-tc9dj
    @TD-tc9dj6 жыл бұрын

    Bishop, what do you mean in terms of "being." If the nominalistic perspective is that god is among the world in finite things in terms of being, what does it mean to "be."?

  • @meathiew.f.wild.p.nature4735
    @meathiew.f.wild.p.nature47358 ай бұрын

    Bishop Barron for Cardinal

  • @siulong1394
    @siulong13942 жыл бұрын

    This is interesting because, to me, it seems to completely turn over the perspective introduced by Max Weber who thought that Catholics build a passive society that just wait for Grace to be deliver from God, while the Protestants are supposedly more entrepreneurial because of this idea that it is possible to discover if someone is destined to be saved or not, by looking at how successful he/she is in this life.

  • @thegreatrestoration6784
    @thegreatrestoration67844 жыл бұрын

    Q. How do Protestants make a liar of Jesus Christ? A. Jesus Christ says: “Hear the Church." "No;" say Luther and all Protestants, "do not hear the Church, protest against her with all your might!” Jesus Christ says: "If any one will not hear the Church, look upon him as a heathen and a publican." “No,” says Protestantism, “if any one does not hear the Church, look upon him as an apostle, as an ambassador of God." Jesus Christ says: "The gates of hell shall not prevail against my Church." "No," says Protestantism, “’Tis false; the gates of hell have prevailed against the Church for a thousand years and more." Jesus Christ has declared St. Peter, and every successor to St. Peter-the Pope-to be his Vicar on earth. "No," says Protestantism, "the Pope is Anti-Christ." Jesus Christ says: "My yoke is sweet, and my burden light." Matt. xi. 30. "No," said Luther and Calvin "it is impossible to keep the commandments." Jesus Christ says: "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matt. xix. 17. "No," said Luther and Calvin, "faith alone, without good works, is sufficient to enter into life everlasting." Jesus Christ says: " Unless you do penance, you shall all likewise perish." Luke, iii. 3. "No," said Luther and Calvin, "fasting, and other works of penance are not necessary in satisfaction for sin.” Jesus Christ says: "This is my body." "No," said Calvin, "this is only the figure of Christ's Body, it will be­come his body as soon as you receive it." Jesus Christ says: "I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, and shall marry another, committeth adultery; and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery." Matt. xix. 9. "No," say Luther and all Protestants, to a married man, “you may put away your wife, get a divorce, and marry another." Jesus Christ says to every man: “Thou shalt not steal." “No," said Luther to secular princes, “I give you the right to appropriate to yourselves the property of the Roman Catholic Church." Q. How do Protestants make a liar of the Holy Ghost? A. The Holy Ghost says in Holy Scripture: "Man knoweth not whether he be worthy of love or hatred" (Eccles. ix. 1); "Who can say: My heart is clean, I am pure from sin"? (Prov. xx. 9); and "Work your salvation with fear and trembling" (Philip. 11. 12). "No," said Luther and Calvin, "but whosoever believes in Jesus Christ, is in the state of grace." Q. How do Protestants make liars of the Apostles? A. St. Paul says: "If I should have faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Cor. xiii. 2. "No," said Luther and Calvin, "faith alone is sufficient to save us." St. Peter says that in the Epistles of St. Paul there are many things "hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as also the other Scriptures, to their own perdition." 2 Eph. iii. 16. "No," said Luther and Calvin, "the Scriptures are very plain, and easy to be understood." St. James says: "Is any sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the Church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil, in the name of the Lord." Ch. v. 14. "No," said Luther and Calvin, "that is a vain and useless ceremony." Prophet Malachi says in @ - “For My name will be great among the nations, from the rising to the setting of the sun. In every place, incense and pure offerings will be presented in My name, because My name will be great among the nations,” says the LORD of Hosts. Protestants like Luther say "When the Mass has been overthrown, I am convinced that we will have it overturned with Popery... I declare that all the brothels, murders, thefts, assassinations and adulteries are less evil than the abomination which is the Mass of the Popes.''

  • @alessiodelcastillo1613

    @alessiodelcastillo1613

    4 жыл бұрын

    True but let's be honest, Martin Luther was 100% right about selling indulgence and how wrong they were

  • @AdvocateSpirit
    @AdvocateSpirit Жыл бұрын

    - I'm a reformer (apparently). - I agree with Aquinas on God's Being - I agree with Martin Luther on grace having no help in saving me.

  • @BackToOrthodoxy
    @BackToOrthodoxy5 жыл бұрын

    When you say the primacy of grace, do you mean the sufficiency of grace?

  • @jasonhelik5051
    @jasonhelik50516 жыл бұрын

    "as Jerome remarks, a heresy arises from words wrongly used" (Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, I, q. 31, a. 2, c.) This principle from Jerome, Father, and Doctor of the Church, is utilized by Bishop Barron in this video. It is heard when the Bishop presents Luther as in error by proclaiming by grace alone, rather than grace first.

  • @rlburton

    @rlburton

    6 жыл бұрын

    "grace first" in the order of salvation, is loudly and clearly affirmed by the Catholic Church.

  • @Talltrees84
    @Talltrees842 жыл бұрын

    The LA TImes did an article in the early 1990s where if Luther had been the Pope. It was alluded to Gorby making changes in the then Soviet Union. Both men were reformers, both tried to work within the system. One was the head of the institution.

  • @Nilkobwaas
    @Nilkobwaas4 жыл бұрын

    Where the council of trent becomes absolutistic and this is seen still today amongst catholics is: nulla salus extra ecclesiam. This is a rather extreme view, which, as is seen today, seems to qualitatively diminish the meaning of other churches. The view was ameliorated in the document lumen gentium, where church is accepted as a "mysterium", but the primacy and monopolizing status of the catholic church is still, as it seems, held unto. Thats where for a most evangelicals and protestants a border is being crossed. Now i will say that, provided that i understand lumen gentium correctly, that church being accepted as a "mysterium" and seen part of eschatology, i can support fully. As soon as a monopolizing status is invoked, i.e. "it is better being catholic than other demoninations", thats where things become condescending quite quickly. I would also appreciate it when catholics define what they exactly mean with "church"? Context is often not clear enugh to tell me if they mean the universal church of christ or the catholic church.

  • @dynamic9016
    @dynamic9016 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks much for this video.

  • @libertasinveritas3198
    @libertasinveritas31984 жыл бұрын

    The Wisodm God gave Solomon earned Solomon glory and praise. I'm sure God had no problem at all with that.

  • @rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963
    @rev.fr.spyridonchiones39634 жыл бұрын

    Excellent ! What the orthodox call s y n e r g e i a beautifully explained.

  • @charichris7
    @charichris76 жыл бұрын

    What's the symbolism of the ring?

  • @PInk77W1

    @PInk77W1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Authority. Priest and nuns have no official church authority. Bishops have the fullness of sacred orders. The ring. The pectoral cross are signs of their apostolic authority.

  • @TD-tc9dj
    @TD-tc9dj6 жыл бұрын

    Bishop, I am a bit confused about the difference between good works in Lutheranism and Catholicism. In the video you said that for Catholics "The glory of god is a human being fully alive" at 7:55. This falling under the analogical perspective of St. Thomas Aquinas. So good works or glory does not compete with the glory of god but is apart of being with god. Isn't that what Luther said too? As in he also stated good works were necessary but were a symptom or indicative of god's grace.

  • @rlburton

    @rlburton

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lutherans, I believe, would confirm that good works are indicative of being in God's presence; Catholics say that good works are inseparable from full unity with Christ; His body, blood, soul, and divinity through the Eucharist.

  • @VRcation
    @VRcation3 жыл бұрын

    Really easy to defeat any catholic with one verse: Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Notice how no scripture was used to disprove grace alone, because there isn't any.

  • @frugalaudio
    @frugalaudio6 жыл бұрын

    I have long felt that among the second generation of reformers, Wesley in particular, there could have been founders of new communities within the Catholic Church. Those later reformers can't be held responsible for the errors of their predecessors. But, I'm sorry, I can't get there with Luther, Calvin, or Zwingli. Luther was much too quick to move from pointing out where people within the Church had failed by the Church's own standards, to outright rebellion and heresy. Nor should it be forgot that the success of the reformation hinged as much, if not more, on the financial and political motivations of its supporters as on the doctrines proposed by the reformers.

  • @garymatthews1280
    @garymatthews12804 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Bishop Barron. I wish that things had gone a little bit differently in the 1500s. I still believe that our Lord intend for us to be one church. And As a Lutheran, I've always wondered if Luther was alive today that there would still be a reformation? I dont believe that he ever truly intended to break away.

  • @AliceMarieM
    @AliceMarieM7 жыл бұрын

    It might have been possible to have a Lutheran version of Ultraquists. But I don't see how Zwingli and Calvin could have been absorbed as a separate rite within the Catholic Church.

  • @barrypatrickius
    @barrypatrickius6 жыл бұрын

    Grace and works are mutually exclusive Romans 11:6 And if(salvation )by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

  • @kelseyjane462
    @kelseyjane4627 жыл бұрын

    Father Barron, would you make a video on Catholicism and feminism? I have had people express genuine confusion and skepticism when I told them about converting to Catholicism. They can't see how I could reconcile being both feminist and Catholic. The Catholic Church seems inherently patriarchal and anti-woman to them. So are Catholicism and feminism mutually exclusive terms or can they can get along? How does the Church support women? Your reassurance and insight would be much appreciated.

  • @dennyboy40
    @dennyboy405 жыл бұрын

    Usually, this man's video's are very insightful and articulate, However, I sort of got lost when he started speaking about "The nominalists" such as William of Ockham, and how God is one being among many, and we dont want to take from Gods glory. I assume this was a reference to what Luther believed? AS a protestant, I can't really fathom this view. I guess he needed more than 10 minutes to unpack this.

  • @wolfthequarrelsome504
    @wolfthequarrelsome5044 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget... The biggest Protestant influence on America was Henry VIII... Not Luther.

  • @vman9347
    @vman934718 күн бұрын

    Can you imagine a Lutheran Order.

  • @ironymatt
    @ironymatt4 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, I had to rewatch from 6:13 - 6:45 a few times. It made me curious as to how the Nominalists were allowed by the Church, considering that on the face of it univocalism seems straightforwardly heretical?

  • @janmarek5206
    @janmarek52063 жыл бұрын

    How do you explain Galatians 3 (and as well Gal 5:2), it seems to me that Paul argues there against “prima fide” and for “sola fide”. The Galatians obviously had prima fide (received the Holy Spirit va faith), but added circumcision as a requirement and Paul still gets angry. It seems to me that he puts it as either or situation. Why would he be so emotional if it was just a minor issue?

  • @lawmaker22
    @lawmaker225 жыл бұрын

    i wouldnt mind bishop Barron becoming our Pope some day:)

  • @PInk77W1

    @PInk77W1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cardinal Chaput

  • @keithherring7677
    @keithherring76777 жыл бұрын

    Can you have a personal relationship with Christ outside of the Catholic church?

  • @andrewyeager8710

    @andrewyeager8710

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tommy Harring Booooo