Bilstein Shock Options for your Light Truck or Jeep: 5100, 5160, 6112

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Bilstein offers proven performance and reliability. Which one is best will depend on your ride style and how much you demand of your truck. The Bilstein 5100 is the baseline standard here, with the Bilstein 5160 providing a reservoir version, and finally the 6112 is the beefier coilover option.
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  • @livingadreamlife1428
    @livingadreamlife1428 Жыл бұрын

    I found this to be the most detailed, informative and practical explanation of the Bilstein line on KZread. While others certainly cover the basics about the shock characteristics, they don’t drill down to a Consumer-level to determine which one is best for you. This one does. Others invite you to contact them to discuss options. While we appreciate that, the reason we watch videos in the first place is to determine which one is best for our driving style. Regardless, this video was very helpful to me. 5100’s all the way around for me.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    We appreciate your kind words so much. We definitely try to help people and have them select what they would need. Everyone is doing different things and deem comfort differently. We prefer that customer know what they're getting, how it may or may benefit them and etc.

  • @onelovemod3157

    @onelovemod3157

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot with love ...

  • @robertespinoza2740

    @robertespinoza2740

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus Are they more comfortable then the stock suspension off-road ????

  • @curchin6877
    @curchin6877Ай бұрын

    Straight to the point. I have now made my choice for the 5100s. Thank you for the clear and concise explanation

  • @kylewest100
    @kylewest100 Жыл бұрын

    I don’t off road my truck often but I want to be able to tackle fire roads and other mild terrain at higher speeds. I like to explore the blue ridge mountains and there’s easy simple trails everywhere and can easily lose track of time and see yourself driving an hour or more back to the highway. Being able to hit pot holes and ruts at 15-20+ mph and not get beat to death is what I want.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Fox 2.0 will give that comfort for daily and help you on the off-roading portion. However, note, a Pothole is something you cannot really alleviate as it's a hole in the ground.

  • @1PITIFULDUDE
    @1PITIFULDUDE7 ай бұрын

    It makes me smile, everytime Sean says Bilstein😀 He is one of few who pronounce it correctly!

  • @tarzan30809
    @tarzan308094 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your service and information!! Completed the installation of the 6112 (F) 5100 (R) today on my wife's 2001 Toyota Sequoia. Great recommendation and product.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad to help

  • @jefferylorance7988
    @jefferylorance798815 күн бұрын

    Great videos , I like the idea you guys actually test and compare all the shocks . I did purchase from Shock Surplus for my 2019 TRD Tacoma LB , with a Leer camper…the 6112 and 5160 Performs great for our purpose.. Hawaii lava rocky roads and sand trails… Aloha

  • @Not_Andrew_Huberman
    @Not_Andrew_Huberman2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the honesty!!

  • @patricks792
    @patricks792Ай бұрын

    I still have some questions so I guess I need to call and speak with someone. Thank you for a very informative video.

  • @0100REALQUICK
    @0100REALQUICK6 ай бұрын

    I just ordered the 5165 from you guys I’m excited to give them a review

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    6 ай бұрын

    awesome! thanks for your business, definitely send some pics

  • @davidmoore1512
    @davidmoore1512Ай бұрын

    I am having difficulty deciding between 6112/5160 or 5100 for my 2013 tundra crew cab 4x4. I tow a 7500lb to 8500lb travel trailer about 6 times a year with a couple hundred pounds in the bed and the only off roading I do is some mountain trails when I’m deer hunting. I’m concerned more about ride quality on the road while not towing but also the peace of mind while towing. And also what about add a leaf or a whole leaf spring stack replacement to bring the rear up with the front lift and give more support for heavy load while towing.

  • @JasonExplainsThings
    @JasonExplainsThings Жыл бұрын

    Great info! Thanks guys.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @teabee44
    @teabee4424 күн бұрын

    I put the 5160 on my 03 Silverado 1500 z71. Definitely better than the stock Bilstein it came with (had 325k before changing 🙄🤣) wanted the fox long travel and now realizing I should have.

  • @007diego2
    @007diego211 ай бұрын

    Thank you for breaking it down for me. I'm closer to making a decision.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    11 ай бұрын

    glad we could help, what vehicle do you have?

  • @007diego2

    @007diego2

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus TRD OFF Road, 2022.

  • @catdaddy119
    @catdaddy119 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bro, you really helped me out. New Subscriber here.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    love to hear it, we may have an updated version too after much more experience

  • @86309
    @86309 Жыл бұрын

    so I bought the 6112's for my 2007 FJ. I did the clip location at 4/2 . This setting didn't give me enough, I'm about 1/2 inch shy of where I want the front end. so now of course they are installed, I want to set the circlips to 5/3. Is there any spring compressor I can use to compress the spring ON VEHICLE so I can raise the lower spring seat by one notch with the circlip?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    We do not suggest trying to compress the spring while it's on the vehicle. It's highly suggested to remove it and compress it on a suitable compressor.

  • @thomasdowner6207
    @thomasdowner6207 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, thanks for you video explaining Bilstein shocks and their capabilities. I do have questions for my specific application- I am rebuilding 1989 Jeep Wagoneer to be trail rider / semi rock crawler. It has solid axles and leaf springs all around. Going with spring over axle suspension lift which I’m told should bring about 6” lift and 4” upgraded leaf springs. Do you recommend the reservoir type 5160s over 5100 for this? Thanks

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    The 5160 will be softer overall compared to the 5100s, and on the trail that helps a lot with all that chatter and small rocks. www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=bilstein-5160

  • @tellmesumngud5851
    @tellmesumngud5851 Жыл бұрын

    Looking to level my 2018 F150 King Ranch 3.5EB FX4. Originally wanted the 5100s, but I hear there are issues when setting to max height adjustment whatever that is such as loss in travel, unbearably stiff ride, and excessive wear on CVs. Would the 6112 + 5160 set up alleviate mentioned variables? I don’t tow so I would be going for a true level in respects to the wheel well space seeming I’m not worried about my headlights being in the sky.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    You wouldn't have issues with the travel or wear on the CV. Preload is subjective as everyone feels comfort differently. For us, we have not seen any massive change if ride quality from running higher setting or more preload.

  • @tellmesumngud5851

    @tellmesumngud5851

    Жыл бұрын

    Now my biggest concern is that I’m seeing many people having issues with the factory UCAs coming in contact with the coil springs when set to max height on the 5100 and 6112 on the 2018. What height would be best to avoid this issue and also avoid needing to upgrade the UCAs? I imagine it would be different for the 5100 than it would for the 6112 given the different adjustment capabilities?

  • @arnehettman2411
    @arnehettman2411 Жыл бұрын

    2020 Duramax 3500 with camper traveling to and from Baja every winter ,tired of the ride on those whooped out roads . Considering the reservoir 5160 , are they used in the front as well?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    The 5160s would definitely help out with that. A heavier vehicle like that would benefit from a 2.5 option like Fox 2.5 or King 2.5s, but we understand budget constraints. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b8-5160-w-remote-reservoir-shocks-set-for-2011-2019-chevrolet-silverado-3500-hd-4wd-rwd

  • @cjmagnuson1008
    @cjmagnuson10089 ай бұрын

    For a towing application (Tundra), is it OK to use 4600's on the front and 5100 reservoir on the back? Or will 4600's all around work fine for towing? The stock shocks are on there now, never been happy with the ride and towing is bonkers with those.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    9 ай бұрын

    Really the 5160 is not going to be noticeably better under a load than the 4600s, and if you are just daily driving and towing, you will never get your shocks hot enough to need a reservoir shock in the rear. I would save the money and go 4600s all around for sure.

  • @gavinbrown8061
    @gavinbrown8061 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the super informative vid, building my first 3rd gen 4runner and wanted to buy the 6112+5100 rear package, but then got convinced to get the 6112+5160, but this vid backtracked me to the 6112+5100 rear. Sorry if that sounded complicated. Also Had a question, I know you guys are located in California, I was wondering if I can just pick up from the warehouse I'm about 40 mins away and don't want to wait for shipping.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    We really appreciate it. We can allow a local pick up as long as we have everything here. Give us a call and we can help you out with it.

  • @salemk.3098
    @salemk.3098 Жыл бұрын

    6112/5100 combo and the b12 rear springs seem the best way to go, does the 6112 come with coil springs?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Bilstein 6112 all come with a front spring in their kit but do not include a rear spring. The rear spring is an optional part that user can purchase. This also varies on the vehicle as well if there's rear springs available.

  • @tperez838
    @tperez838 Жыл бұрын

    Very good informational video. One of the most informative videos I’ve seen in a long time and truly honest opinion and uses. My question for you is I was going to put 5100’s on a 22 F-350 dually lifted 5” running 37/12.5/22’s. Mostly will be towing a 34’ 5th wheel trailer occasionally then just a luxury truck. Do you suggest I go with the 5100’s as planned? Thanks!

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    We would still go with Bilstein 5100 as is geared more for towing and hauling.

  • @toyotabrony
    @toyotabrony2 ай бұрын

    @ShockSurplus What is the truly difference between two oem shock replacements. KYB - Excel G shock absorbers VS. Bilstein - B4 shock absorbers? Is there one has a small feature that’s better than the other? What’s the difference?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Ай бұрын

    The difference is going to be in materials mostly, Bilstein is using materials to ensure longevity, KYB is more oriented towards cost savings. Namely the seals that Bilstein use are superior to most, which gives their shocks such a long life span. That wiper seal that cleans the shaft before entry to the shock is best in the business, ensuring no debris is getting into the shock.

  • @TheREIstory
    @TheREIstory11 ай бұрын

    I've got a 2017 ford 150 lariat and I'm thinking about upgrading the shocks for better road comfort. The current set up I am thinking is a 5100 for the front and back. My only concern/question is I believe the truck has a leveling kit on it. I'm not 100% positive, but I'm fairly positive (likely a 2.5in). Now if I replaced with a 5100 in the front will I lose the level or do I reinstall the coilover on the new 5100?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    11 ай бұрын

    Feel free to shoot us some images to support@shocksurplus.com and we can help figure that out. On that truck, you can get 2.1" of lift out of the front using the Bilstein 5100 height adjustment. Or you can use the Bilstein at the factory height setting and continue to run the spacer. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b8-5100-monotube-gas-adjustable-shocks-set-for-2015-2019-ford-f150-4wd-w-0-2-1-lift

  • @vincentvaldez4051
    @vincentvaldez4051 Жыл бұрын

    Hi! Do you recommend the B12 rear springs for 2018 FJ Cruiser running on 6112/5160 with stock rear springs? Love how it is riding now except for the annoying body roll on corners in low speed. I figured it must be the old springs. Thanks again for another great video!!

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the rear end sagging under load? Are you running front and/or rear sway bars? If you're not sagging, but dont want to increase ride height, then new lift springs in the back may not be the ideal move. If you want some ride height gain in the rear, then definitely, the b12 springs will give that added height and rate to help with body roll. A new beefier sway bar from Helliwig would address body roll as well. Reach out to us to dive into the details, would love to help - 213-433-3616

  • @vincentvaldez4051

    @vincentvaldez4051

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus this is very helpful sir! Thank you for this!!

  • @tpharo34
    @tpharo349 ай бұрын

    Great break down on these; I run the 6121/5160 on my Tacoma. My questions is as I add load (bumpers, topper, equip, ppl) what is the best application? 4WP folks are guiding me towards airbags with compressor. I am not seeing a lot of those setups. I feel I am getting misguided. I see ppl using beefed leaf springs. Not which way to go?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    9 ай бұрын

    For constant load like that we think a better option would be a full set of leaf springs like Icon RXTs. You do not want to rely on load leveling solutions like air bags all the time. If you are running a heavy front bumper as well it might be a good idea to step up to a 650 or 700 lb per inch spring.

  • @tpharo34

    @tpharo34

    9 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the response. I am going to go with a OME 112 full leaf springs and OME UCAs; I ll add the CBI rear bumper w/swing out tire carrier @@ShockSurplus

  • @jkroemer2685
    @jkroemer2685 Жыл бұрын

    So I run 5100’s currently all around and medium duty leaf packs in the back. If I swapped in the 5160’s would that make any sense to additional help support with weight I carry? I have a topper on the truck and any given time anywhere from a couple of hundred lbs (constantly) to between 600-700lbs in the bed. Thanks for any info.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    11 ай бұрын

    The 5160s probably will not be all that much better under a load, however in most cases they are longer in travel so they do perform better with most aftermarket leaf packs.

  • @jkroemer2685

    @jkroemer2685

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplusthank you for the reply!

  • @triedandtrue1820
    @triedandtrue1820 Жыл бұрын

    I'm just replacing 5100 front coil over shock on 3rd gen 4runner, but re using 2005 tundra coil for added weight. Shocks were toasted after 60k, but have seen lots abuse. Not sure what the tundra spring rate is? 🤔

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    We don't have the specs on had for factory springs for the 2005 Tundra but it should be somewhere around 500-600 lbs springs.

  • @triedandtrue1820

    @triedandtrue1820

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus cheers, right on

  • @diskartengpinoyinalberta1128
    @diskartengpinoyinalberta1128 Жыл бұрын

    I order 5100 and heavy duty spring for my 4 runner 285 70 17 tires what setting grove for the shock you recommend. ? Do you think heavy duty spring is rough handling? Thanks

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    What is the exact part number of the spring? What you need to consider is how much lift the springs also provides, then look at the circlip chart for the 5100. The specs on the 5100 are based on using a stock height spring.

  • @luisporras916
    @luisporras9162 ай бұрын

    If i want 2 1/2 in the front should i do 650lbs spring or 1/2 strut spacer on the 6112? Just weekend camping and some off road trails

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    2 ай бұрын

    The best option would be to stay at 2" but you would likely get better ride out of a spacer. Just make sure to cycle the suspension to make sure there is no CV bind and if there is, although we hate to do it, your best bet is a diff drop.

  • @dajahreegiles6758
    @dajahreegiles67584 ай бұрын

    I have a 21 GMC Denali 2500 HD and am torn between 5100s F and 5160s R, or 5160s F&R. Do 6112s fit my truck? Mine is a daily driver, occasional tow, but will be full time tow in the next year, and I go off-road depending on the season for different activities and events. What would be your suggestion for the best setup in all the above for comfort handling cornering etc…..

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    4 ай бұрын

    6112s are for vehicles that already have coil over strut suspension and will not work on a truck like yours that has torsion bars, leaf springs, and separate shocks. On your application the 5100s and 5160s will both offer very similar initial feel with the 5160s offering better heat dissipation under more extreme use. If you like to drive fast off road, or you turn a lot of miles when you are off road, then it may be a good idea to get a 5160 remote reservoir shock all around, otherwise the 5100s will do the trick.

  • @antoniomartinez8253
    @antoniomartinez8253 Жыл бұрын

    I don't do off road but I do pull my 29 foot RV with the weight of 8,700 lbs can the 5160 make the job on not dropping the truck a lot ? Or the 5160 are not built for weight ?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Outside shocks, what you really need to focus on is you rear spring set up. That is where are you weight support is. The shocks are more of the comfort or feeling of the rear end.

  • @Deerector
    @Deerector5 ай бұрын

    I have 2008 H2 with OEM suspension. It’s a daily driver. I’m looking to soften my suspension as I never use it off road. I just want it to ride more comfy. What do you recommend for me.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    5 ай бұрын

    If you are looking for something softer than stock we think the Skyjacker M95 is a great option and at less than $400 they are a great value. The Fox 2.0 is probably the best riding option, but they are $700 a set and will need to be rebuilt fairly often.

  • @DOUGIECHAINSAW
    @DOUGIECHAINSAW Жыл бұрын

    What spring rate do you recommend on a 6112 on a Toyota tacoma with a Alluminum front bumper and winch?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    It depends on the total constant weight on the front end. Bilstein 6112 come with a 600 lb. spring which is good for 0-80 lbs. of additional weight. You would upgrade to 650 lb. spring for 80-140 lbs. of additional weight. The most we would do is a 700 lb. spring which is for 150-220 lbs. of additional weight.

  • @2AMech
    @2AMech9 ай бұрын

    is the 5160 softer than it's identical-ish 5100 counterpart? or is it the same digressive valving?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    9 ай бұрын

    5160s are typically valved linearly, rather than digressively, so a bit more bump compliant and smoother in the tougher stuff www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=bilstein-5160

  • @ErikisOfficial
    @ErikisOfficial11 ай бұрын

    I have an 18 f150 supercab and its all stock. Do you think 5100 front and 5160 for rear is cool?. Its a city truck, no big tires, no offroading. I really like how the 5160 "look"

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah running the 5160 in the rear works, might actually feel better when the vehicle is unloaded in the bed

  • @claymorphis1585
    @claymorphis15854 ай бұрын

    I have a 2019 f250 and I tow everyday down dirt roads, and the truck rides is rough. What would be the best shocks for my truck? I have a leveled truck 2” In Front and 3” in rear.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    4 ай бұрын

    Sounds like you might be simply measuring the rear blocks which these trucks come with from the factory. If the truck is sitting level and has a 2" lift in the front it is probably stock in the back. For your use a set of 5100s would more than do the trick www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b8-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-for-2017-2019-ford-f250-super-duty-4wd-w-2-2-5-lift

  • @Relaxmusicme
    @Relaxmusicme Жыл бұрын

    I have 2022 sequoia 4wd. my vehicle carried heavy load every day and offroad every day. can you recommend a complete lift_kit that is heavy duty for offroad, heavy load and fit a size 35s. thank you!

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Please contact our sales team directly. We'll help guide you in the right direction. If this is strictly a off-road build, we'd have to know what you're doing exactly so we can steer you into the right direction.

  • @user-ws5kw3pz7q
    @user-ws5kw3pz7q8 ай бұрын

    i'm looking for improving on-road handling of the prado 150. which shock should i go for? the stock height is good for me now though.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    8 ай бұрын

    Bilstein 5100s should do the trick if you are plan on keeping it stock height now and might consider lifting it later. If I am not mistaken the lowest setting on the 6112s will still add a little lift to the front end.

  • @user-ws5kw3pz7q

    @user-ws5kw3pz7q

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus how does Bp-51 front/5100s rear combo perform if using for both off-road and daily commute? i just really like the way ome bp-51 has both compress and rebound adjustment

  • @BrandonAgpaoa
    @BrandonAgpaoa6 ай бұрын

    I am looking at getting a minimum of a 3", but ideally, 3.5" lift, or whatever I need to fit 35" tires with 20x10 wheels on a 2020 Tundra TRD Off-road. I will use the truck as a daily, overlanding, and occasional hauling. Can Bilstein's go higher than a 3" lift?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    6 ай бұрын

    Bilstein 6112s and 5100s top out at 2.5", but the 8112 front coilovers can go up to 3.25"

  • @BrandonAgpaoa

    @BrandonAgpaoa

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus thank you. I'll take a look at them.

  • @bobh.5423
    @bobh.5423 Жыл бұрын

    02 Silverado 2500HD X-Cab Long Bed, Re-keyed 2" Torsion Bar lift. Rear Air Bags. 295 BFG's on 8.5 x 16" all around. Camper shell, ladder rack, off road and towing. Running fairly new 5100's in the rear. Looking to replace the fronts. Stay with 5100's or upgrade, 5160? Or upgrade all around? Weekend warrior. Thanks for posting.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the details! The 5160 will feel softer than the 5100s, which helps on those torsion bars when turned up. www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b8-5160-w-remote-reservoir-shocks-front-pair-for-2001-2010-chevrolet-silverado-2500-hd-4wd-rwd?variant=39901122232369

  • @its_allaboutromie
    @its_allaboutromie Жыл бұрын

    Great video! What shocks would you recommend for 06 Hummer H3 with 4" lift and 37" tires. Daily driver. Thanks in advance.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Please contact our sales team directly for assistance via email or phone number. Both can be found on our website.

  • @supersoni126

    @supersoni126

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you ever call? I’m looking for the same info

  • @russk6865
    @russk68656 ай бұрын

    Great video great information I have a 2021 gmc at4 Stock want to get rid off the ranchos , looking at the 5100, good choice??

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    6 ай бұрын

    Definitley! They should be a very nice improvement.

  • @christopherluersen2587
    @christopherluersen2587 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2023 At4 3.0 duramax. The 6112 would give me 1.1 lift in the front? Just curious because I know the other models are 2 inches lower than the AT4s

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s a trail boss / at4 specific 6112 shock that gives 1.6”

  • @christopherluersen2587

    @christopherluersen2587

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot!

  • @ramzizaz
    @ramzizaz Жыл бұрын

    I was originally going to go with your 5100 kit for my 2010 Lexus GX460 but after talking to Bilstein, they said that the 5100s would not work in the front and recommended the 6112 because of the added weight? Can you share if you guys have had a lot of applications of the 6112s in GX460 or GX470s? Are the 5100s valved differently because of the V8 up front? What do you recommend? Located in Colorado btw doing technical trails (slow crawling) and nothing too fast. Currently don't have much armor other than sliders and skids.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    They do have 6112 and it's a new part number that has not been supplied quite yet. Contact our sales team directly and we'll help figure everything out for you. www.shocksurplus.com/pages/contact-us-general-inquiry

  • @_willkim
    @_willkim3 ай бұрын

    Considering getting one. Is UCA required for 6112/5160 set up with 1.5" or 2.0" setup with GX460?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    3 ай бұрын

    Nope not needed, but it can really help with tire clearance since you can align for more positive caster to push the front tires forward and net yourself some clearance from those pesky front body mounts, wheel tubs, and everything else behind the front tires

  • @_willkim

    @_willkim

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus Thanks, it sounds that if I don't need to worry about tire clearance, I really don't need it. I am running 265/65R18 with stock wheel on my 2020 GX without rubbing.

  • @MSchumacherfan
    @MSchumacherfan9 ай бұрын

    I have a 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie I want to build into an overlander, which do you suggest?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    9 ай бұрын

    If you do not plan on running too heavy of a front bumper, I recommend the 6112s and 5160s. However, if you want to run a lot of additional constant load ahead of the front axle, you may want to consider something you can upgrade the spring on, like Icon 2.5 coilovers. The 6112s use a proprietary spring design with no heavier alternatives. In contrast, a threaded body coilover like the Icons uses a universal flat ground coilover spring, with countless options for spring rates from companies like Eibach. That said, the Bilsteins are the better value, and we think they are tuned a little better for the average overlander or daily driver.

  • @miguelochoa1371
    @miguelochoa13717 ай бұрын

    So for a smoother ride on road would the 5100s be better? Going on a 2016 Silverado 1500 and I’d have it set to the highest setting

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    7 ай бұрын

    The 6112s will definitely ride better. The larger 60mm piston means they have way more potential dampening force and do not have to be tuned quite as stiff to provide the support for a full size truck with independent front suspension. The digressive design on both also means the larger piston of the 6112 allows for more oil to pass freely through the piston for better small bump sensitivity. Bilstein just released an "Extended Travel" 6112 that is adjustable from 1.75-2.75" of lift instead of 0-1.75" like the standard 6112s or 5100s. So if you were planning on running the 5100s or 6112s at the top setting for 1.75-1.85" of lift, you could get that same lift at the lowest setting on the extended travel 6112s which should allow them to top out less and ride better. They do require an aftermarket upper control arm though, so you will need to factory that into your budget/choice.

  • @MrLopez-lm4jk

    @MrLopez-lm4jk

    3 ай бұрын

    What upper comtrol arms do you recommend with the extended travel 6112... and whats another similar option? Like that

  • @coryibarra753
    @coryibarra7535 ай бұрын

    I just purchased 6112 for my ram Big Horn and 5160 it's been a week in the front end is sagging by 3 inches lower compared to the rear is that normal

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    5 ай бұрын

    That definitely is not normal. I would definitely check what circlip settng your are on.

  • @Do4now
    @Do4now11 ай бұрын

    Fox 2.0 or Bilstein 5100 for someone who mainly does Highway/City daily pavement driving and is looking for a firmer tighter ride. Do not like the bouncy splashy feel on the road. Thanks

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    11 ай бұрын

    Bilstein for sure www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=bilstein

  • @yousefalasousi4229
    @yousefalasousi42295 ай бұрын

    hi ,,which one you recommend for lexus gx460 as oem replacement . thanks

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    5 ай бұрын

    If you are just looking for an OE replacment then you would likely be better off going with the 4600s compared to the options listed in this video

  • @shanelongo2921
    @shanelongo29212 ай бұрын

    2022 Ram 1500 honestly just trying to get roughly 2.5 to level it out and go with 285/65's. it's going to be a pavement princess, so comfortability is my goal. Should I stick with the 5100's or go to the 6112's? I don't tow or haul around anyway weight except 3 small heathens & the wife

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    2 ай бұрын

    I would probably go with an Eibach Stage 2 package or at least their 2.0 coilovers and Pro Truck Sport rear shocks instead of the Bilstein. If you are not towing or taking it off road, you can stand to go with something tuned a little softer.

  • @KevinWaddellKWAD
    @KevinWaddellKWAD12 сағат бұрын

    6112 not available for Jeep...😢

  • @trailbosschrispayne5454
    @trailbosschrispayne5454 Жыл бұрын

    What are the lift heights for the diff rings for the trailboss versions?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    #1 - Stock #2 - 0.6" #3 - 1.2 productdesk.cart.bilsteinus.com//media/products/bilstein/E4-WM5-Y666A00_1.pdf You can see the details on page 2

  • @danbraden4401
    @danbraden4401 Жыл бұрын

    Best set up for a 2007 GX470 with a airbag delete? Only dirt roads is all but want a nice ride.....

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    One of our favorite easy trail systems for the daily driver www.shocksurplus.com/products/eibach-pro-truck-lift-system-stage-1-kit-for-2003-2009-lexus-gx470-w-2-3-lift

  • @kano683
    @kano683 Жыл бұрын

    What do you recommend for a Jeep YJ with a 4" lift?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    We suggest this kit: www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-b8-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-for-1987-1996-jeep-wrangler-4wd-w-3-4-lift-yj

  • @BladeDoomer86
    @BladeDoomer86 Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, sorry if it's been asked before. Wrangler Jk 2013 4door, all stock. Are 5100s or Fox 2.0 direct installs? I want to keep things stock, no mods, no lift etc. Thx!

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    11 ай бұрын

    5100s require a small lift, use the 4600s if you're sticking at factory height, they ride the same. Fox does have 2.0s for factory height. Fox will produce more comfort, Bilstein will produce more handling, some overlap between the two but they definitely have a different feel between them

  • @BladeDoomer86

    @BladeDoomer86

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus Much appreciated, thx I'll give the 4600s a go. Good day

  • @jasonherwig7907
    @jasonherwig7907 Жыл бұрын

    Do the 5160 come with the holder for the reservoirs?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    It's based on application. Some come with them, some do not, and some cannot use them.

  • @pipedesigner
    @pipedesigner10 ай бұрын

    Do they require maintenance like fox shocks?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    10 ай бұрын

    Bilstein don't require maintenance, and most aren't serviceable since they're sealed shocks. But good thing is they last a billion miles without issue most of the time

  • @FoxRunContracting
    @FoxRunContracting4 ай бұрын

    Very informative, can you elaborate on "the 90 day warranty really bites people in the butt." Thanks!

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    4 ай бұрын

    Actually since this video was released Bilstein has updated their policy to a 2 year warranty on things like the 5160s, but at the time having the 90 day warranty certainly was an issue for a lot of people who ended up buying these parts. Bilstein probably has the highest build quality and production standards of any other manufacturer, so issues are the least likely of any brand, but nobody is perfect so there are still always some occasional duds. It was not uncommon for somebody to buy a set, not install them or check them for 3 months, find out they were leaking/defective when they went to install and be essentially out of luck with Bilstein. We obviously took care of a lot of people on our dime, but there were certainly a lot of people who got bit before they updated the warranty

  • @kbzig55
    @kbzig55 Жыл бұрын

    can I get the 6112 for my2020 chevy Silverado drama

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    What 2020 Chevrolet Silverado do you have? 1500, 2500, 3500?

  • @user-ej1bq4bq2w
    @user-ej1bq4bq2w Жыл бұрын

    According to their website, they warranty the B8 5160/8100/8112 category for 2 yrs. The B8 5125/5165/8125/9200/9300 series purchased in N America for 90 days.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    That is correct. The vary from model to model. 5160, 8100, and 8112 have a 2 year and are more off-road oriented and are rebuildable by Bilstein. All the 5125, 5165, 8125, 9200, 9300 are universal so they have a shorter warranty and requite more prices calculations for setup.

  • @user-ej1bq4bq2w

    @user-ej1bq4bq2w

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus just wanted to mention it because in the video you say the 5160 has a 90 day and that's it, when they actually have the 2 yr. I just put mine on a week ago, and then when you guys said 90 days I was like wtf how'd I miss that. Glad to read it's 2 yr on the site.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Our apologies, I'll bring this up to the media team.

  • @patricsteele
    @patricsteele Жыл бұрын

    Would the 2.5 coil over overheat before the smaller diameter 6112 with the reservoir ?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Bilstein 6112 are 2.5" diameter struts and do not offer a reservoir option . The reservoir only comes in the rear in the 5160 iteration. 2.5 series do not overheat more than smaller diameter. The large diameter body helps out and if they offer ar eservoir, they help out even more.

  • @brockpeterson1497
    @brockpeterson1497 Жыл бұрын

    Hi buying a 2023 TRD Off Road Premium. Considering 6112/5160. I do a fair amount off roading in Moab, not too hard core. Fast dirt roads and some rock crawling. I do run into a lot of washboard roads. Seems like the 5160 would handle that better? Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

  • @robertespinoza2740
    @robertespinoza274010 ай бұрын

    Are they more comfortable then the stock suspension off-road ????

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    10 ай бұрын

    Stock suspension is typically really soft, so we'd be on the side of no here, when comparing against Bilstein. What vehicle do you have specifically? We can find you an option for what you're looking for (offroad comfort)

  • @robertespinoza2740

    @robertespinoza2740

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus a 2015 Toyota tundra crew max. I’m looking for at least 2.5 inches of lift but want something I can offroad in long fast dirt roads usually

  • @onelovemod3157
    @onelovemod3157 Жыл бұрын

    What is the rate number of shock for my car ford f150 2011 4wd 4x4 ?

  • @onelovemod3157

    @onelovemod3157

    Жыл бұрын

    I need 2.65 bilstein for front

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    This a link to the 6112 for your F150: www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-6112-strut-spring-assembled-rear-b8-5100-shocks-set-for-2009-2013-ford-f150-4wd?variant=31673547587633 They come with a 500 lb spring

  • @robertsegura6451
    @robertsegura6451 Жыл бұрын

    I can get bilstein shocks for my mini cooper but not for my Honda element.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    If they offer parts we can. Please contact us with your full vehicle specifications. www.shocksurplus.com/pages/contact-us

  • @alilayeghi7707
    @alilayeghi7707 Жыл бұрын

    Hi bro.can I get one this suspension for SsangYong rexton ultimate 2021? I put the Ironman kit for SsangYong,but the ride was not good.please give me your opinion which suspension or lift kit it's better for nice and smooth ride, could be used for SsangYong.thanks

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Most companies we deal with don't produce parts for international cars that were not offered here in the US. We don't offer Ironman 4x4 but we can possible look at ARB/OME as OME was an Australian based company. Please contact us directly for assistance.

  • @JesusPrince99
    @JesusPrince994 ай бұрын

    Will the 5160 or 6112 fit my 1984 ford f150 2wd?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    4 ай бұрын

    There are 5160s that could be made to work, but there are not any 6112s that will work for your application

  • @JesusPrince99

    @JesusPrince99

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ShockSurplus okay thanks for the info

  • @garrisonjasik5367
    @garrisonjasik53676 ай бұрын

    Bilstein 6112 vs eibach pro truck 2.0?

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    6 ай бұрын

    It depends on your use case and preferences. The Bilstein definitely is more supportive over bigger bumps at higher speeds, but the Eibach is generally more comfortable over smaller bumps and chatter and particularly at lower speeds

  • @bullheimer
    @bullheimer4 ай бұрын

    thanks for this missing link

  • @Moon222
    @Moon222 Жыл бұрын

    Every question about shocks, you guys are the ifrst result lol

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahah winning! Hopefully its helpful info

  • @jefferylorance7988
    @jefferylorance798815 күн бұрын

    5160 SAD Bilstein only a 90 day warranty..is it because they do not believe in their own shocks!!! I wanted to get a set for my son 2016…6112 and 5160s …not any more

  • @GrmpaJA
    @GrmpaJA Жыл бұрын

    Don't lift your Tacoma an inch if you enjoy ride quality. I like the Look, but how it rides is not for me.

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    wow thanks for the feedback, first we've heard such negativity around the 6112s. They are quite a bit firmer for sure than the factory setup, which is what i think you're feeling. You could sell em and roll into Fox 2.0 coilovers, which would be a lot softer.

  • @erikflores2642
    @erikflores2642 Жыл бұрын

    6112 is what I need I have to off-road every day to get home lol and always load shit in my truck

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a great starting point for a lot of people.

  • @manchild1219
    @manchild1219 Жыл бұрын

    I dont off-road but I live in DC where potholes are everywhere

  • @ShockSurplus

    @ShockSurplus

    Жыл бұрын

    There isn't much you can do to alleviate potholes unless you have a large enough tire to kind of absorb that impact.

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