Always wondered if Kobe's career would've been better or worse or the same pretty much, had he stayed with Charlotte on draft night.

@georgeschneider9751

Жыл бұрын

Way different. We're talking about the Lakers.

@gilbertbrown4183

Жыл бұрын

Probably something like a erratic Vince Carter early in his career. Charlotte Hornets didn't have a winning culture so Bryant would have probably left free agency. Playing for stats and not winning. Who in your top 10 all-time?

@neilbryanbucsit197

Жыл бұрын

Same with Curry going to the wolves people most people doesn't remember but Steph is very injury prone early in his career

@akeme25

Жыл бұрын

He’d have still been a superstar. With his work ethic, there’s no way he wouldn’t have. He just wouldn’t have had as much team success. At least unless they’d still end up getting Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn, then maybe would have made a little bit of noise.

@ikemason9114

Жыл бұрын

What if the Washington Wizards never gave up on Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton to help the Pistons get some chips during the 2000's and they traded Chris Webber in his prime to Sacramento for old ass broken ran down Mitch I can chuck 3's and hurt my knees Richmond and Michael I can't score over 13pts Smith

Still Crazy to think that Kobe Bryant is No Longer here🏀

@NCOMBHOODIE

Жыл бұрын

yeah that’s crazy . LLKB 💜💛

@ShaunTheNavigator

Жыл бұрын

Man... No cap 🧢

@guru_basketball_kiero

Жыл бұрын

#GuruBasketballKieroSays Seriously.

@jeronedavis165

Жыл бұрын

I say that once a day

@L92185

Жыл бұрын

@@jeronedavis165 me too

Remember now, the 76ers had the number 2 pick in 1997. If Van Horn goes to the Spurs, Duncan would go to Philly and he doesn't get traded to the Nets.....Now Philly would have Iverson and Duncan. That would've been extremely interesting

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Sure would have been. But I don't see even Duncan stopping Iverson's ball hogging.

@algorhythm83

Жыл бұрын

I was about to post the same thing. I do not believe ball hogging would have been an issue because Iverson would have realized Duncan's talent from the start.

@johndavis9321

11 ай бұрын

​@@algorhythm83I doubt seeing Duncan could play would have stopped Iverson from ball hoggin live ivo dude is an NBA and basketball legend... But let's be honest dude was also a collosal shot jacker

@algorhythm83

11 ай бұрын

@@johndavis9321 I believe it would have been a good inside/outside match. Iverson worked with an older Chris Webber. I believe he would have done damage with a younger Tim Duncan. Remember they got Theo Ratliff which turned into Mutumbo. Imagine that front court. Hey, the world will never know.

Duncan would've been the #1 pick regardless who was picking.

If Kobe hadn’t had that pre draft workout in LA then he probably wouldn’t have ended up in Charlotte. He’d have gone higher. The story went that after speaking to West, Kobe was determined to get to LA and put the word out that any team that drafted him and didn’t trade him there wouldn’t get him. He was threatening to go play in Italy if he didn’t go to LA. So Charlotte drafted because they wanted Divac.

The Houston Rockets could have had Jordan, Olajuwon and Drexler on the same team. If Len Bias wouldn't have passed away, playing with Bird, McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson. Carmelo getting drafted by the Detroit Pistons.

Wow I didn’t know Sam Perkins was drafted ahead of Charles Barkley

your content is steadily improving , salute to you

Robinson being there to mentor Duncan was definitely helpful. I don't agree, Duncan was the slam dunk (pun intended) number one pick at the time, where the Celtics and other teams were straight tanking for him. Minnesota getting caught trying to skirt the cap was a real bizarre story. KG was on his way with Marbury, he needed another shooter or point guard. As for Kobe, him staying in Charlotte could've had a huge ripple effect, the Hornets probably never leave for New Orleans, we don't know if Phil Jackson goes to Charlotte, since the Triangle was well catered towards Shaq and Kobe.

Us from Jersey ate still mad about Kobe..Coach Cal was gonna take him at 9 but Kobe made ot clear he didnt want to play for NJ

You should do a Stunted Franchise series starting with the Washington Wizards no championships for 43 years after this season 44 years

Could you do Rodney stuckey? A bucket in college, went to detroit and never really put it together

Love ya videos bro keep ‘em coming!!!pause!

Also, Kobe had refused to play for the Hornets. That was a large part of what happened. The Hornets made that trade for that reason as well.

RIP Drazen

What the Hornets was thinking😤

96 and 2003 was the 2 best draft class thus far!!

@shakenblake4533

Жыл бұрын

What about 84?

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

​@@shakenblake4533Right

90s...last time you saw meaningful defense actually being played 😅😂and not all the damn 3s

@G-TV_TheOneManArmy

Жыл бұрын

The 2000s had the deadball era and lowest scoring defense was really prevalent during that time

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Tell me about it!!! Ugh, it just up and disappeared.

Bryant refused to play in Charlotte. That's not on the Hornets, surely?

You got to wonder what if the Wolves did not trade Ray Allen to the Bucks after getting drafted by them.

In 1998-99, I did my "50 All Time Worst NBA Players," and "Franchise Nightmare Team" for each team. Here are some comments from my friends: "Oh come on, you have to take Tracy McGrady off of your all-time worst team." And, they disagreed when I also put Antoine Carr, John Battle, Tyrone Corbin, Frank Johnson, Dana Barros and Terry Teagle on my All-Time Worst List.

One that would be good is Dennis Scott. Was a great sharpshooter for Orlando then fell off the face of the Earth.

I love your content, but honestly Duncan was a sure pick at first, the second pick was a questionable thing... I was reading ton of basketball magazines and it was going to be the DUNCAN pick ( in this thinking it fails, if you go that way that What if Nets won the 1st pick it can be) Joe Smith- never understood why to get Smith who played the same position like KG, not going for a shooting guard or a real small forward or Center. I'm more curious if he stays on GSW for that 80million dollar deal, would he become an all-star? Getting better as a first option? Kobe- for this as well you need to check the draft period, all knew he has talent but was like a prospect (as he was in real time), he told the teams which teams he would play for, for many he said he would go to play in Italy... Hornets got Vlade, while the Cavs drafted Potapenko... I think he would have been similar to AI, as an individualist who never pass, a bit similar to early Jordan.

No Disrespect To Bubba Chuck, But Philly Said Had Duncan Came Out In 96 They Would've Took Him So 97 Was A No Brainer That He Was Goin #1

Could you make one about Franklin Jackson

Duncan was a Wembanyama level lock for the #1 pick. Kinda feel that's a silly "what if". If you had said "What if San Antonio hadnt gotten the first pick?" It would have made more sense

What if the Sonics wouldve paid Shawn Kemp what he deserved after taking the sonics, along with Gary Payton, to the finals...or what if Chicago wouldve traded Pippen for Kemp...

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

🤔Maybe he would be on his way to a chip but I wonder if that would have stopped the drinking too?🤷‍♀️

Really great points! I would add that the Duncan-Van Horn switch would have prevented the current false narrative of TD being a PF because even with his entire career in San Antonio, he played more seasons as a Center. Had he been drafted by the Nets, he likely would have been a Center his entire career without having Robinson to do the dirty work dealing with the physically demanding opponents like Shaq. The Kobe one is interesting because had Charlotte kept him, he may have gotten closer to MJ from a statistical perspective, being in the historically weak Leastern Conference era. However, it also would have prevented the NBA to push the Lakers over the Jailblazers and Kings without such an obvious power pairing with Shaq (who may have ended his career with only 1 or 2 titles). In fact, San Antonio may have won another title as well as Portland and Sacramento each taking one. KG, as with Juwan Howard, is partly to blame for the Joe Smith scandal because they started the insane $100+ million contracts that kneecapped their respective team's salary cap. Certainly, he is entitled to earning as much pay as possible, but had he taken a small discount to legitimately attract free agents, Smith/McHale/T-Wolves management would have not cheated.

In my mind, biggest what if of the 90s, is what if cold war didnt keep Sabonis from arriving to Portland before Blazers made the finals. Maybe Bulls cant compete against a dominant center and Jordan retires with... lets say two rings?

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Maybe. That's an interesting thought because the Bulls had centers but they were never dominant, not even Luc Longley when he was at his best. What made the Bulls the dynasty they became were their guards. But Portland had great ones too and Sabonis would have meshed perfect with them.

Rodrigue Beaubois, Francisco Garcia, Shawn Williams

Great

Whatchu mean David Robinson wasnt athletic, that dude was fit as hell

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

He was fit, yes, but athletic....maybe not as much. I think he was talking more about his range of motion and flexibility to do more creatively....kind of like his teammate Duncan.

@user-oi1iq6tt4j

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRetroWoman80 lol um David Robinson was more agile than Duncan

Who goes under da table fa Joe Smith who was aight as Dubs rookie but not no franchise change cat

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

I agree. He peaked at Maryland and coasted in the NBA.

Trading vlade for Kobe is the equivalent of, the 76ers thinking that offering Dr.J for Jordan was a fair deal 😂.

There was never a question, TD was going to be the #1 pick. The van horn thing is a reach

Nobody cared about kg in minnesota while there was barkley malone and kemp

I just looked at the KG one today. Minnesota was a playoff team every year they lost a pick and the #1 seed in 2004. They got their picks back in 2003 (Ndudi Ebi at #26) and 2005 (Rashad McCants at #14). 2001 they could have taken Tony Parker but realistically they had Terrell Brandon and Chauncey Billips and they probably would have taken Brendan Haywood. He was aite 2002 i think best case scenario is they take Tayshaun Prince but I don't know if he helps them as much as that hurts Detroit who is in another conference and helps the Lakers who probably could have beat MN with Tayshaun and surely would beaten Indiana again who might've gotten past a Detroit team without Tayshaun, remember the clutch block on Reggie Miller. 2004 they were #1 in the west and could have got Anderson Varejão. Yawn. So it wasn't really that big of a deal. It's like, imagine if the 90s Bulls lost all their draft picks. As for trading the picks, they were all in the 20s until 2005 so I don't think they would have got much. Minnesota and KG just didn't get it done. But in fairness, it was a brutal stretch for a western conference team to try to grow into a contender. If anything, you could say, that since the penalty didn't matter, they should have cheated for a more impactful player. Like they should have got Sprewell in 99 or something And the Kobe one... Kobe wanted to go to LA. That Charlotte traded him is not dumb. The dumb thing is that they got Vlade Divac and like three teams ahead of Charlotte took centers who weren't half as good as Vlade Divac. Like if you're going to take a shitty center and hope for the best, just take Kobe and trade him for Vlade Divac who went to the Finals with Magic Johnson and clearly knows a thing or two about basketball. Clippers, Dallas, Indiana, Golden State... get smarter guys 😆

Just watched a new channel (Upthescore) where some dude was trying too hard to sound like stunted growth 🤦🏿‍♂️ 😂

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Can't stop clonage, unfortunately🤷‍♀️ And I have witnessed certain channels start out with one energy/focus and the gradually bite off another's game to increase subscribers. Highly inauthentic.

Oh there are scripts.

U don’t think Jordon in a different script won’t b MJ? Stop! Love ur videos brother! Do u !!!!

U gotta be crazy if dnt see sports entertainment isn't scripted smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

@user-oi1iq6tt4j

Жыл бұрын

It's not wwf 😆 wwe

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

True. This whole planet is.

Hornets still making bonehead pics til this day 😂

How does GSW pick Joe Smith over McDyess n KG

@tayfattz2272

Жыл бұрын

Joe Smith was a beast at Maryland.

KG n Duncan stat wise had the same career. Imagine them switching career paths. Would Duncan have the same success or would KG thrive with Pop?

@user-oi1iq6tt4j

Жыл бұрын

And having David Robinson

In what world was Van Horn going to be picked over Duncan?

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I hear you. Van Horn's game was beast but it was probably because Utah's conference was not challenging like the ACC nor did Van Horn necessarily carry Utah the way Duncan's presence seemed to with Wake Forest.

@mieakamoore7825

Жыл бұрын

@TheRetroWoman80 Duncan could anchor an offense and defense. Van Horn was never asked for anchor a defense in college or the NBA....I think his NBA ceiling was 3rd best player on a championship team.

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

@@mieakamoore7825 Agreed.

Carl Wright smu

Percy harvin

Who the hell would take Van Horn over Duncan?

What family baggage did Kobe have on his name?

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

I thought about that too. Didn't his family drama happen a few years into the league when he started going out with Vanessa?

KG was amazing but NOT a Top-10 All-Time Great!

No jc as I have told you I am a life long lakers fan the only place kobe could be is the lakers. He was made to take magic Johnson s place as the next greatest leader in team history.

What if Melo went to Pistons..

Great video as always, but I definitely can’t agree with KG being a top-10 all-time great.

Garnett is not a top 10 all time great.. Who u taking out the top ten to put garnett in?!?

I don't think the Spurs will be successful with Keith Van Horn, David Robinson is not as he used to be,maybe still a playoff team but not as championship contender, and so Tim Duncan will not taste the success if he played in New Jersey

Bruh. This is reaching.

KG is and never was considered a top 10 player.

K. Bryant, M. Jordan, E. Johnson, L. Bird, L. James, B. Russell, W. Chamberlin, K. Jabar, S. O'Neil. Who would you add to this list?

@georgeschneider9751

Жыл бұрын

We are already up to 9.

@georgeschneider9751

Жыл бұрын

O. Robinson has the numbers. But does not pass my "eye test".

@georgeschneider9751

Жыл бұрын

H. Olajuwon was as good as these guys.

@davidnadel6145

Жыл бұрын

For the 10th spot options: Barkley / Curry / Erving / Ewing / Olajuwan / Malone / Stockton / Duncan / Garnett / Robertson / Wilkins / I. Thomas / Cousy / McAdoo / Durant / Robinson

@georgeschneider9751

Жыл бұрын

I forgot about Dr. J. That is 10.

KG top 25 not top 10-15

Tim Duncan is a top 10 boring player