3 of my favorite players that lost their possible hall of fame path to injury. No question Rose was headed to greatness, Oden was the last of a breed, and Roy already had Kobe's praise. Fun players to watch, but what I like is they all took it in stride and kept good attitudes about it throughout.

@RacingHeartMedia

Жыл бұрын

B roy was a dawg

@swift7163

Жыл бұрын

This Iz TruE Yo 🫡to the Gods

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Well....they were getting paid still, JC. I'd keep my attitude positive as well.

@theetruth8626

10 ай бұрын

U very biased Westbrook was just as good as Rose maybe even better

Shaun Livingston. If you saw him in HS, he was a freak of nature. Best passer I ever saw in HS.

@JoseSilva-yr7fo

Жыл бұрын

That was a horrible injury and incredible come back

I loved Greg Oden's game. He was so dominant and physical. He would literally dunk everything in the paint and block every shot

@demitriuswilliams4729

Жыл бұрын

The true center, he was the last one not to be jacking up 1,000 3 pointers

@c0wboys4life

Жыл бұрын

He really had that potential to be the next Shaq out here, when he was in the paint it was a automatic dunk but unfortunately also came with his knees giving out tearing a major ligament

I had so much belief in Oden. I loved the center position as well. When he missed his initial rookie season and came back I still had very high hopes he could dominate. If he would've been healthy he would've challenged Dwight Howard in the late 00s and early 2010s for the title of best big man and defensive player of the year.

Oden Roy and Aldridge in my opinion is the biggest what if built team in the recent NBA. I’m sure they would’ve been able to have won the west at least once or twice in the early 2010’s

@KobaniacMinded

Жыл бұрын

They were stacked don't forget jerryd bayless, batum, camby, Fernandez boy they was getting close

The fact that two blazers are on here kills me. That mid 2000 squad could have been something. Greg Oden I was thinking about the other day and how he could have been a Joel embiid type. Everyone knows about Brandon Roy’s short legacy I’m sure. But them with Lamarcus alrdidge that could have been a championship squad. Additions of Andre miller and Gerald Wallace. A young batum and Wesley Mathew’s. man what could have been. Joel pryzbilla!!

B Roy was that dude in Portland miss watching him easily could’ve been top 5 sg off all time how he was going.

If there’s one thing I hate in basketball, or just sports in general, it’s seeing star talent go down to major injury. Each moment of what happened to Rose, Roy, and Oden pains me. D. Rose and B. Roy were legit my favorite players during that era of the NBA. They were just stone cold killers on the floor, man. Too explosive and too clutch, respectively. And, I hate when people try calling Greg Oden a bust. He was never a bust. But, was rather dealt a bad hand and never got a fair shot to live out any part of his career healthy. He always showed signs of potential greatness to become the next great big man in the league. That 24 and 15 game is proof of that very thing. Greg Oden had it. He really had it. Respect to all three of those boys, regardless. Real ones know

Derrick Rose was hands down the best PG i have ever seen in his prime. Any body his size wanted his skill set..

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

Derrick Rose was ok, he was in no way the best pg I have ever seen. In the playoffs against boston, Rondo looked better at the time.

@mosescarter5980

Жыл бұрын

@@williambrabston3045Derrick rose was definitely on his way to being one of the greatest players ever

@bf6639

Жыл бұрын

@@williambrabston3045that’s why Rondo won MVP… Watch the way you talk about Drose you casual

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

@@bf6639 yall are emotional lol... no he wasnt, he was nearly identical to Russ...

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

@@mosescarter5980 he was basically a Russell Westbrook... thats it.

Brandon Roy had such a complete game definitely was first ballot hall of famer in the making.

Great video. Man at least we have an idea of what Derrick Rose and Brandon Roy would of been. Greg Oden though we never really got to see him do his thing a little here and there but not to the level of Rose amd Roy. I really do believe he would of been a monster. Sad.

People forget how good A'mare Stoudemire was before his first injury

@bbryant9455

Жыл бұрын

Best big man out there for a short time. Him and pre weight loss Kevin Love imo

@xavierochoa2648

Жыл бұрын

Facts he’s rarely mentioned in these “What ifs” he could have been a 30 ppg scorer as a Center/PF in the 2000s

Would love to see a stunted growth episode about Omri Caspi. The warriors even gave him a ring and he's still only 34 right now so he could technically be playing, if not in the league then in europe or asia but instead he's retired and doing podcasts like a lot of vets.

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

Lol omri Caspi is the definition of guy who scratched and clawed for 7 years to be a 8-12th man. Not stunted growth that boy achieved more then I think anyone thought possible.

@zeroh7671

Жыл бұрын

WHOOOOOOO??? Srsly this a joke or are you a big fan or possibly fellow native from same area? Lol

Brandon Roy felt like a proto-Kawhi: the consummate NBA player. I had just missed seeing Derrick Rose play in college when Memphis was in C-USA. I was studying abroad at the time. By the time I get back stateside, I saw what all the fuss was about. His injury sucked because I couldn't believe what I was seeing before that. I was happy to see him drop 50 on the Wolves, though.

Greg Oden would have been amazing. You could see the potential in the few games he played. D Rose was simply unbelievable. To think that ppl was big on Westbrook while post Rose injury but Westbrook was an after thought during the preinjury. Incredible talent.

I always said why was Drose still in the game I’m from Chicago and watched him play since a youngn he deserved to be the best.

if we talkin 00’s, shaun livingston’s injury is definitely one of the top 10 what ifs in the 2000s

Derrick Rose was epic with those hops!

Derrick Rose injury was really unfortunate. Don’t know why the coach at the time played him late into the game.

@ZappakeR

Жыл бұрын

Because Thibs doesn't trust his bench.

@johndavis9321

Жыл бұрын

It was definitely unfortunate and thibbs terrible rotations definitely didn't help matters but if you understand biomechanics and anatomy derrick rose was pretty much destined for injury his extremely athleticism reliant play style along with his awful landing mechanics was just too much stress for one body to take

@christophertifre2018

Жыл бұрын

The score wasn't that of a blowout. 12 point lead with a minute plus is never safe in the playoffs

@thepubknight6144

Жыл бұрын

dr bryan shutter did videos on all three player sand he said the training they got was botched, and because of oden and rose's explosive playing they should of gotten lots of stretching and pull excersises on their legs ,and should of rested for hours after... and had rose took more time off he would of never gotten his second knee injury you even saw rose limping when he returned he also said all three had deformiites in their legs which also caused the injuries (bow legged, longer leg than the other) i am someone who has both and you definately need to get therapy and training for them type of issues because had three surgeries on my right knee and one on my left playing sports in my youth and need a cane because i was ignorant to that

Go back and watch that 2007 National championship game Greg Oden made 2 future all star bigmen look middle schoolers

I remember being a Derrick Rose fan. I still have his jersey and shoes.

I was so hyped when I saw Greg Oden in the Big 3 he was really the next dominant big man to hit the scene when he got drafted, I didn’t even watch college ball like that but I tuned in for them Ohio State games

I seen a few all star wings say that BRoy was one of their toughest match-ups

@johndavis9321

Жыл бұрын

Kobe himself said that man had no weakness offensively

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

@@johndavis9321was gonna say namely Kobe

@gpc831

10 ай бұрын

I think that was nice of kobe to say. He was nice really nice but I think D-rose & oden were the 2 biggest damn injury Altho I’d say B Roy was sad cuz he just got Roy & then his career suddenly ended in his 2nd year. One of wash all time best players

This is so sad that great players like Rose,Oden,and Roy careers where limited due to injuries.

Great and Sad video all at once. Keep up the great content!💯🙏🏽

Very nice vid brother. 🎉

Just imagine a back court duo with a prime D. Rose and a hungry up & coming Jimmy Butler

@johndavis9321

Жыл бұрын

I say all the time had rose been able to stay healthy and team up wit the dog jimmy butler those bulls teams would have gave those lbj heat and Cavs teams hell

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

And those pacers team they weren’t no joke for a few years.

Biggest what's if due to injury ... Penny Hardaway Grant Hill T-Mac D-Rose Brandon Roy Gilbert Arenus

I hate that my favorites players careers were stunted due to injuries, McGrady,DRose,BRoy 😢

The Rose’s injury made a ton of sense when you if you noted his landing mechanics.

greg oden was the number one pick in 2007.

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

Yup it was an easy choice. Basketball just hates Portland.. but Portland loves basketball.. very strange

Odenwas supposed to be the next Shaq. Had he not been injured, there would be no such thing as small ball basketball.

A great one jc as the Chinese say be aware time is luck. For these guys luck ran out.

It didn't help that D Rose's coach is Tom Thibodeau who is very notorious in overplaying his starters

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Is that why this load management business came about??

Mvp Rose 🌹was unstoppable!

Rose and Roy was my top 5 guard and off guard of all time before the injury. Portland must be snake bitten missing out on MJ and Durant for Sam Bowie and Oden DAMN.

Greg Oden was drafted. First pick 2007 with. Number 2 Kevin Durant

Derrick Rose style of play caused him. I don’t blame the coach. I was a big D Rose fan.

Greg oden was drafted 07 not 06 and Brandon Roy was drafted 6th overall not 3rd

Brandon Roy is my third favorite player of all time behind Jordan and Kobe. Roy was the second coming of Kobe but in a silent assassin form. A healthy Roy would have took some chips from Curry and Bron.

Blazers team could’ve been a dynasty smh

@gpc831

10 ай бұрын

They went from the jailblazers to back to back worst injury/break nba champions!! 😂🤣 2 x what shoulda woulda coulda

Portland has THE WORST LUCK, ever: Bill Walton, Sam Bowie, Greg Oden and Brandon Roy.💯

@rkooscar6866

Жыл бұрын

And Sebastian telfair

Oden would have been so dam good

Do a Stunted growth on Stephen Jackson had he not been involved Malice in the Palace.He could been a valuable sharp shooter helping teams in he Playoffs similar to Robert "Big Shot Bob" Horry who has 7 rings. At one point he held the NBA's single game 3 point record. He at least one year he could of been an All-Star. I belive Coach Pop missed manage his playing time bringing in emotion and often times isolating the big 3 from the rest of the team. I recalled a few playoff games where Tony Parker blew him off instead of passing to him when he was wide open for 3. Being called Captain Jack tells you he was a good locker room guy and leader. Also do a Stunted Growth on Marcus Dupree of Oklahoma, Trajon Langdon of Duke and the O'Bannon brothers of UCLA who paved the way for NIL'S!!! Side note on Steohen Jackson winning a State Champship in High School with a Coach named Andre Boutte who won a State Championship with Kendrick Perkins 00. He is one of few coaches to have coached 2 players to Basketball State Championship and those2 players also win an NBA Championship!

Injuries almost got D-Wade too 🫣

Do the 2010s what if next.

Another one dwade although he had a hall of fame career. His career was plagued with injuries and his greatness was cut short

Micheal redd injury was disheartening Danny granger

2000 all injury team pg: d rose sg: b roy sf: tmac pf: grant hill c: oden

The stunted growth should be Gordon Haywood, Nenad Krstic, and Troy Hudson.

You should do Jokim Noah

D 🌹 was and is super talented. If never got injured he could’ve got a ring or 2 and would’ve been considered better than A.I maybe even Curry.

Greg Oden was drafted #1 in 07 brotha

The question that people in this comment never commented: what if Michael jordan never had that injury coming into the nba

How is it everyone forgets about jay williams?

I was never a greg oden guy i see what people were saying i just didnt think hed pan out

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

You never watched then. He was Joel embiid with a bad training staff that didn’t trust the process

@jaridatkinson4907

Жыл бұрын

@dougefresh8029 no I did watch lol I always was concerned about injury for him that's why I didn't think he'd pan out not cuz of talent

@greedy8711

Жыл бұрын

@@dougefresh8029no he wasn’t. He had no offensive game outside of dunking

Discuss John Wall decline

Even if Rose didn't get injured, the Bulls wasn't going to win anything with LeBron being in Miami. Portland had the pieces..... Those guys just couldn't get healthy.

Why is he acting like a 12 pt lead with 1:22 left in a playoff game is some unquestionable scenario where you just pull your starters? This is a playoff game. I can understand a season game , but that is hardly an insurmountable lead from a playoff team to eclipse given how many possession you can get off with 1:22. Al the criticism of Thibadeau is classic Monday morning quarterbacking. Hardly anyone would have made a peep about the starters not being pulled if he hadn’t got hurt. Honestly , I’d imagine viewers would be perplexed by the action if indeed he did pull the starters in that situation.

You forgot Jay Williams.

How was B.Roy cleared after only 8 days?

Sigh... We're going to need a stunted growth double feature on Zion and Ja soon....

@averyyyy_w2

Жыл бұрын

Nah, all Zion needs to do is stop messing with weird Twitter girls & remain healthy while Ja just needs to stop flashing guns and get his mind right. They’ll be alright.

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

@@averyyyy_w2you sure?

For me, Derrick Rose will always be the biggest "what if" in the history of NBA basketball. Anyone who questions this, watch his 50-point game in Minnesota. I cried. 🏀

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

The biggest what if, was probably Bill Walton. I would even say Grant Hill and Penny were bigger what if's. DRose is ok, he was exciting, but he was in the same mold as Russ, and alot of people would have taken Russ over him at the time anyway. DRose is just beloved because he was the next star in Chicago, there are alot of PGs better than him.

@johndavis9321

Жыл бұрын

​@@williambrabston3045while I do agree to an extent let's remember that penny played 4 seasons before the injury bug bit him hill played 6 so while it obviously wasn't long we pretty much saw what those guys would look like at their absolute best wit d rose their were still many things he could have gotten better at passing, three point shooting and he was still able to be an MVP also I gotta push back against the Westbrook thing Westbrook was and still is a beast but he wasn't prime rose rose was a better finisher at the cup, better overall shooter better defensively like c'mon bro

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

@@johndavis9321 you are just wrong, if you look at the stats, ESPECIALLY in the playoffs, they were nearly identical. DRose was pretty meh in the playoffs.

@johndavis9321

Жыл бұрын

@@williambrabston3045 drose had WAY WORSE teams than Russ what lol

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

@@johndavis9321 what the fuck does that have to do with their performance... and this is prior to injury, and they are basically the same age...

most def D rose. D Williams and Yao Ming

Penny should def be here and grant hill

You gotta do one on Gilbert Arenas

@KrosstownLandLord

Жыл бұрын

He did one already

hope zion doesn’t get added to this list.

I was a fan of d rose. He was explosive and a great talent and great athleticism. But Brandon Roy was my fuckin guy lol. He had it all figured out and would have definitely made a WCF run or two with Aldridge and Bayless. Especially if they don't trade Bayless and roy stays healthy. 💯 I'm a fan of nate McMillan as many are but he was not the coach for that team. Just like Chauncey isn't now. Big fan of Chauncey the player but the coach? Idk man

Greg Oden averaged 11 and 8 in only 23 mins

Shaun Livingston?

Rose was better than Westbrook initially because Westbrook was still learning the position. I think Oden would’ve been Bynum with better footwork.

@johndavis9321

Жыл бұрын

Nah bruh rose was always better than Westbrook no disrespect to westbrook but he was never d rose

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Somewhat. At one point, I thought Andrew Bynum was going to really grow as a center and do damage. Ah well.

If D Rose never gets hurt, he doesnt have a way to get the jury to sympathise for him. Because he definitely confirmed just about every detail of his victim’s story and his only defense was to just cry about how much he’s been through.

Yup bulls definitely wasn't the same greg oden was nice at Ohio State to

Why was D Rose n da same??

Greg Odom came to the league too old. He could hv been a good big man tho.

@williambrabston3045

Жыл бұрын

i know he looked like he was 40 but, he was 19 or 20.

@jayskicksnfits9372

Жыл бұрын

It's Oden, not Odom. ✌🏻

@zuluamar6791

Жыл бұрын

@@jayskicksnfits9372 appreciate it but he came in appearing too old and beat up.

@jayskicksnfits9372

Жыл бұрын

@@zuluamar6791 He would have had a hell of a career if it wasn't for his injuries unfortunately. 😢

@dougefresh8029

Жыл бұрын

Lol ripe age of 44. Smudge a number here and bam birth certificate says your only 19. Go get em boss. In all seriousness blazers was my squad in the mid to late 2000s with pacers being my east conference team. Danny granger trade killed them pacers though

Greg Oden was a better defender than offensive player

@TheRetroWoman80

Жыл бұрын

Also....where was his shooting game? Did he not develop that at all? I only saw baby hooks and dunks in these clips.