Lil NAS is the perfect name for your rap career

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Hmm...

@Napert

14 күн бұрын

Just add an x to the end

@0r_1x

14 күн бұрын

@@Napert Naw.... Lil NAS-ZFS

@jaap7374

14 күн бұрын

Epic rap battle! BIG NAS vs little nas.

@russellzauner

14 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling you can tour with your partner Udot2

These two NASes have big "Don't talk to me or my son ever again!" energy.

Let’s start a buddy backup system!

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Y2Y P2P backups for KZreadr-to-KZreadr

@mritunjaymusale

14 күн бұрын

​@@JeffGeerling Wendell from level1 wanted to do this since ages, he even made room for a rack in his basement for this reason

@TechnoTim

14 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling let’s trade terabytes!

@vadnegru

14 күн бұрын

Not a bad idea, perfect for 3-2-1 rule

@AlexKretzschmar

14 күн бұрын

I’m in

"100W idle, in europe, thats 260€ a year" *Looks at HPE Proliant G9 under the desk* Yeah, ofc i need that performance... XD

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

"This is the way"

@igordasunddas3377

14 күн бұрын

Perhaps you're rich or you like energy companies - who am I to judge you 🤣

@rorylong314

14 күн бұрын

My power goes from 10c+ VAT for 2-4am to 17c+ VAT for 11pm to 8am to 35c+ VAT for 8am to 11pm. My 2013 Mac Pro runs at 100w so, it’s off most of the time. Ireland isn’t the cheapest for power but not the most expensive either. I like that your focussing on power draw, most of the US based KZreadrs make little to no reference to it. Thank you 🙏

@gametec_live

13 күн бұрын

​@@igordasunddas3377 Luckly got a 5KW solar power system on the roof, so that helps a bit XD

@perwestermark8920

12 күн бұрын

Hm. One Xeon workstation. One Xeon server. And a Threadripper machine. The RPi consumptions tends to hide in the decimal expansion.

When you said HL 15 my brain briefly went" Half-Life 15!? how long have I been asleep!?"

@paulmaydaynight9925

14 күн бұрын

sorry to hear that, you have been asleep for 26 years. good news The Lunar Prospector spacecraft is launched into orbit around the Moon, and later finds evidence for frozen water....

@UnderEu

13 күн бұрын

HL15 CONFIRMED

@GregBarrett

10 күн бұрын

Once Gabe's consciousness is uploaded to a server he may consider HL15 in about 12,000 years.

How did I miss the Level 2 channel???? Subscribed.

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Well now you don't miss it!

Hell yeah, pi5 nas comparison information is exactly what I need right now

@boneappletee6416

13 күн бұрын

My finger is hovering over the 'Buy RPi 5 now!' button...

How many times can you plug your third channel in one video? Jeff: Yes.

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Hey did you know I have a third channel now?

I dare you to name the next one “little NAS 10, Roman Numeral Edition”

YES PLEASE to all of those extra topics on the extra channel. Thanks!

Of course, we would greatly appreciate a video on that other NVMe small NAS Jeff! Love this video ❤

The shelves for your workbench @ 13:55 grabbed my attention. I've just started setting up a dedicated space using a 48x24-inch motorized desk and had been mulling over how to attach storage space to it. Preferably pegboard and not involving much engineering on my part to make it sturdy and stable. If I've worked out the dimensions of those 2x4basics brackets correctly, I could add some beams across the back to attach 32-inch horizontal Wall Control pegboard panels between the vertical studs and it ought to fit my desk's width near enough exactly. Thanks for the inspiration!

Love this great content @Jeff, please keep it going!!

I love your videos Jeff. Keep doing what you're doing.

I remember when I had a nas in my home. Good times. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

"undisclosed KZreadr" there's only a few people it could be. Linus, Wendell, the other Jeff

More like "Left ARM, Right ARM" amirite? 😄

regarding the U.2 Kioxia SSD mount - if those drives are anything like WD U.2 drives, they can generate a decent amount of heat, and mounting them close together and vertically, I'm afraid that 1 of the 2 might heat up without any air flowing over it (it might be totally fine as well - you can usually check temperatures via `smartctl`). For those that don't have motherboards with SlimSAS (or similar) PCIe ports, there's relatively cheap 1-drive U.2 to PCIe slot adapters...which can be wasteful plugging into x16 or x8 slots (the drives are only 4 lanes), but might be the only solution for many server chassis.

@JeffGeerling

13 күн бұрын

That's not a bad option; if I do see them getting over 50C or so I may consider, because PLA can warp

lil nas jeff is my favorite recording artist

Great Stuff Sir! ✌🏽😎

Also yes, a deeper dive explaining those Ansible playbooks would be awesome Jeff! I'd watch that thing even though I don't know a lot about storage itself.

Your big NAS power draw exactly as same as my whole lab =)) 3 NUC + 1 DS920 NAS + 1 PI and some APs/Router at 100W

brb, just renaming my server to lilnas

First time in all my years of watching youtube where I came across a video 30 seconds after upload, while it still having "no views!" Awesome!

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

I am honored to be in this moment of history.

@monad_tcp

14 күн бұрын

764 views, classic youtube bug

@Pytte

14 күн бұрын

you did it all wrong.. your supposed to say first!

@Monsterfisk

14 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Haha, for a second historical event, this is the first time a creator has replied to my comment, so we're busting records left and right here! Love the video btw (now having actually taken the time to watch it!) I'm very tempted to build a pair of lil nases and hide one of them in my parents' utility room, they aren't using their 500/500 fiber for anything, so I might as well finally have the "1" in 3-2-1! (I've heard that the attic doesn't count!)

@Monsterfisk

14 күн бұрын

@@Pytte yeah but then I'd end up being third, and cringe.

@JeffGeerling Hey I have the same configuration, from the day you uploaded your first video about it and I am very satisfied with it. My old 4 Bay Synology NAS uses about 39 Watts and this only 9-10 Watts. I now turned over to use this as my personal cloud and do the backups of it to my old Synology NAS, by waking it up via WOL, doing the backup and then shutting it back down.

i picked up the pimoroni NVMe base Duo for my Pi5, got 2x 2TB drives from Lexar and its going to become my new OMV/Jellyfin box, I'm very excited

Level 2 Jeff subscribed! 😁

3rd channel called Level2Jeff promoted on 13th moving vlog, makes sense, lol.

Damn didn't think I'd make it here so early. Always love these kinds of videos!

Those Apple speakers were made by Harmon Kardon, they also made the glass soundstick speakers for Apple.

Really pushin level2jeff in this one!

See i like these projects a lot. I like to have 3:2:1 style backups, but with my limited budget i have internal disk, external disk, and cloud. I could definitely build something like this and get more reliability, and cloud savings. Space is at a huge premium almost as big as budget, so i know i could have a cheap NAS done myself, but a cheap and tiny NAS is what i need.

I‘m really honored to be in your video. 😅 Really like your Videos BTW.

Hey Jeff, great stuff indeed ! Very well documented, and really cool to share all that beautiful knowledge with us. About your 3-2-1 backups I was thinking that since you moved from your house to your new location, if you make backups to some NAS or else at your house, then you've got your offsite copy, don't you !! No monthly paiements to some internet cloud !! "Make your own cloud at home !" (wow, sounds like some TV commercial ad, lol) ;-)

This is awesome Jeff I want to learn anisble now

Power prices is why I've decomissioned my Intel server. The twin Ivy Bridge Xeons are still beasts, but the switch to a single Skylake Xeon 4108 has saved a bunch of power.

like, just because of thumbnail alone 😂❤

audio is fantastic

I saw another KZreadr get a cheap tape drive do periodic offsite backups. Write to tapes mail to friend or put in another safe place like a fireproof safe. Tape sits there no power consumption holds loads of data and in the right conditions will stay that way for 50+ years. Rotate with a second set of tapes each week or month and you got yourself apocalypse level protection. House burns down, you just need to restore from the tapes and you don't pay export fees from offsite cloud, though you would need to find another tape drive if you house burned down, nothing is perfect.

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

I have considered tape archive in the past, the annoying part is how manual/physical the process is. But when I was younger, I was in charge of the weekly tape backup rotation between two radio stations. Was a fun and easy task to do every Friday :)

@jasonboles1526

13 күн бұрын

Tapes sound great until you have to do restores... Even "enterprise" backup software can be buggy (database corruption, etc), and LTO drives only offer 1-2 generations of backward compatibility. And if your tape robot fails after 10 years, you're at the whim of what might be available on eBay as a replacement. HDDs aren't perfect either, but a heck of a lot easier to just plug a drive into 3.5" hot-swap bay or even a SATA-USB adapter. LTO-9 tapes (18TB) are about half the price of HDD, but you also have to factor in the cost of the LTO-9 tape drive (usually thousands of $, not even counting an auto-loader). Lastly, if you're storing tapes (or HDDs or even SSDs) in fireproof safe, make sure to pack and maintain desiccant (larger gun safes can get powered dehumidifier accessory) - this is why off-site storage facilities like Iron Mountain use old mines - basically free climate control underground.

@joelv4495

12 күн бұрын

​@@jasonboles1526 Production database backups are a surprisingly difficult challenge especially with a "slow" backup device, since there are probably writes happening when the backup is in progress. Probably best to use a file system that supports snapshots, then backup strategy is to tqke a snapshot then send that to the backup device.

@earthling_parth

11 күн бұрын

Also yes, a deeper dive explaining those Ansible playbooks would be awesome Jeff! I'd watch that thing even though I don't know a lot about storage itself.

@jasonboles1526

11 күн бұрын

@@joelv4495 I wasn't referring to backing up a database... I was referring to the internal db (tape library inventory, metadata, etc) that a particular enterprise backup "solution" software was using internally. If that software's db got corrupt, then you don't know where anything is on any of the tapes, and the differentials are useless. (this was 20 years ago, I'm sure such software is better now, and there's also several open source software nowadays as well)

with a nas like that, the world is yours

Cool, love the content and especially the details of the power consumption of the different NAS now that I've moved in with a girl who's _Very_ conservative with power usage at home. But we both are in need of local backups at home and Lil NAS would be perfect, so I'm going to build my own with inspiration from you (not the first time)! BTW, I wasn't aware of the third chanel and it was really hard to hear you say the name of it, so took me a while to find it. You should definitely market it a bit more, bcs we're so many people that get excited every time you post some new content ❤

@martinkormunda2264

13 күн бұрын

Very interesting is also UPS power consumption. There are huge differences if you care about each 10W.

I love sanoid/syncoid I use it all of the time for zfs replication

In the nearly 10 years they've been in service, my molex to SATA adapters have never been a problem 🤣

Nice thing about the Pi Nas no moving parts to worry about.

My approach is to have multiple NAS boxes for different use cycle. Smaller, power-efficient boxes that are on 24/7 for the active files. Big boxes with the massive storage capacity for lesser used files and backups, that I power up only when needed.

I can't wait for my Radxa Penta SATA Hat! It finally has a status of ready to ship from Arace tech. Love the videos as always!

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

ARACE has been busy; I just got shipment notification for two other Radxa boards I ordered in March, hopefully they're here soon!

@elowine

14 күн бұрын

Wish this stuff was actually available. Same with the board Linus showed. You just can't buy this stuff in Europe or they are sold by weird shops asking 2x the price. At which point getting a Synology is cheaper😅

@neilblack5924

14 күн бұрын

Mine say out for delivery

@jazzycross1227

2 күн бұрын

Just received mine. Can’t wait to build it now!

I think Jeff might have a third channel.

I think my dad had that old Sony Camcorder and G4 Tower 14:25. Those memories came flooding back!

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Such a great little camera (Canon GL1). I also have an old Sony FD-Mavica now too :)

Wish the mini PC manufacturers would get into the Tiny NAS space. Something the size of a Mac Studio with 4 2.5" bays would sell like hot cakes

Its always nice to have a NAS with auto backup set up. I use a WD My Cloud EX2 Ultra and I like the My Cloud software. The only issue I have had was one of the drives in a Raid 1 configuration failed last week (WD Gold 16TB drive).

lil nas x 🔥name

Wait, Jeff, do you have a third channel? You didn't mention it at all in this video 😉

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Drat! I shall mention it many times in the next video then haha

I think it would be neat if you did a solar power + battery for the Pi backup server.

16:20 Cobra chickens!

Moar Geerlings!

I had 4 Sata SSD shoved into my Dell Optiplex SFF - it used like 20 watts most of the time. The SATA card was my choke point. But I only had 1TB ssd so - limited to 3tb of space.

Nice Bro

build that all in a case and populate with data, then hand over and wait for it to sync home , and think remote sites. I have always thought a friends network where u build/buy, setup knowing target networ settings, archive

Molex To Sata, Lose All Your Data. Sata To Molex, What Rhymes With Molex?

@igordasunddas3377

14 күн бұрын

It's probably my Rolex 😊 Jk., I don't have that and if I did, I'd sell it and buy things I actually care about.

lil nas lol....that alone deserves a subscription

Great video and thank you for sharing your updates @JeffGeerling As far as your RPi5 SATA Hat update where you show you are using a USB3 2.5Gb Ethernet adapter. Where did you get it? I didn't see a link in the description for the newer hardware used. :) Thank you for the update that you have a second channel. I just subscribed to that one. :) Keep up the good work @JeffGeerling ! :D

@JeffGeerling

6 күн бұрын

It's a Pluggable 2.5G USB 3 adapter (works great on my Mac, Pi, and Windows!).

@David_Ladd

6 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Thank you sir I found it and just put it in my cart to order. I am trying to get that SATA hat right now, but seems to be out of stock right now. I would really like to try out the ZFS stuff on a Raspberry Pi :)

I hope you're still Jeff Geerling next time we catch up

13c/kWh... my last (South Australian) power bill was at AUD$0.64/kWh, around USD0.42.

Great video, enjoyed watching it!

Molex to sata, lose all your data 😄 great. I really like the electronics workbench

Knowing how often Jeff's bars are seen in the videos, he probably came up with this title months ago giggling to himself and now he finally has the chance to post it 😂

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Hehe... I can confirm this.

Rather than putting a rtc on the pi to turn on scheduled backups. Set backups to run on boot, and shut down after, then use an Home Assistant automation to send a WOL packet. Then super easy to adjust schedule, even with the pi off

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

True; the only downside is if I want to boot it up for debug, I'd have to set some sort of trap I could escape the backup. Maybe a hotkey to hold or something.

@JOZZIE52

14 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling get HA to monitor disk activity, set the automation in HA to start shut down when disk activity under threshold for 5 mins. Shut down precedure can check a flag in HA you set to keep it online. So for debug set "keep lil NAS" online to true, it won't shut down. When HA detects the server stays shut down for 5 mins auto clear the flag. Then to boot and change things, set the flag to true, boot server, do what you need, 5 Min shut down grace let's you restart without clearing the flag, when your done changing stuff shut down, will auto clear the flag, ready for the automation to automatically shut down next time. Will let you adjust the schedule easily in HA and do more advanced scheduling, let's you keep it online as needed for debug. Should give you the best of both worlds.

@JOZZIE52

14 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling you could stop the auto backup by adding a 30 sec delay to the start script, checks for user interactions and won't start if the user interaction is present. Or just check for a file exists, so you can just touch a file in home to stop script from starting

Thank you again for your Ansable Book!

How do you galvanicly isolate your backup drives from the main system? Do you use a fibre to connect to the backup system and run the backup system of a set of batteries that switch between running and charging?

I have that exact USB 2.5Gb Network Adapter. I bought it years ago and it's currently plugged into my MacBook Pro.

@JeffGeerling

12 күн бұрын

It's plenty reliable. Gets a little hot but it's perfectly adequate for most users who need more than 1 Gbps

With two locations (home and office) I guess the question is do you ditch Amazon glacier and just replicate home->work and vice versa for your off-site?

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Sadly, home is within a nuclear blast radius of the office, so if one went down, both would go down. But the 'undisclosed KZreadr' is far outside the blast radius, so I hope to work on that later this year :)

@Wordsnwood

14 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Same situation with my work/home but I figure I'm not really that important, so I'm allowing the nuclear blast as a reasonable excuse for then deciding to retire from KZread... 😆☢

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

@@Wordsnwood Heh, true.

15:09 keep that cable as you never know, you may need it in the future if it didn't

@JeffGeerling

13 күн бұрын

Haha so true. I regret throwing out a box of old SCSI, parallel and serial cables when I moved to college. Some adapters I had in there cost $50+ to get a beat up used replacement nowadays.

I didn't even know that industrial micro sd cards exist, very cool. Edit: they use TLC nand, so they are better then some SSD's (only endurance, not speed).

@LackofFaithify

14 күн бұрын

Transcend makes them (and ssd's that have power loss protection, the real kind), it's just a pain in the butt to find a place to buy them. Under the Embedded category if you ever look, not consumer.

10:10 Yes, all the videos.

the other day i used a pi 4 as a tiny nas just for a few files that i need to open on 2 devices useing ubuntu 24.04 LTS and samba the pi 4 has only a 32gb sd card nano NAS :>

apalrd uses Proxmox Backup Server running ZFS. Then, he connects an LTO tape drive and manually backs that up to tape (supported feature in PBS). He sends those tapes to a family member. I am considering this because I cant run another ZFS server to replicate to offsite.

Cool idea to use a RPI as a backup NAS, but I have 8 20TB drives in HL15

Man that HL-15 is such a beautiful case but $799 for a case and backplane is nuts when you can buy a Meshify 2 or Define 7 and miniSAS breakout cables that holds as many drives for 1/8th the price

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Yeah; it's a premium case, with a premium price. I hope these show up on the used market at some point since the cases are so versatile, and will probably outlast the ATX standard and 3.5" drive production!

Those electricity rates are very similar to New England rates too, i think highest i saw 2 winters ago was 39 cents /kwh

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Ouch! Makes you worry a lot more about efficiency though, and IMO it's not a bad thing to try to make things more efficient, and waste less power.

@SchoolforHackers

12 күн бұрын

Sounds like a couple of solar panels would make a big difference.

@draggonhedd

12 күн бұрын

@@SchoolforHackers i live in a rental apartment

@SchoolforHackers

12 күн бұрын

@@draggonhedd Damn.

Is the 4x NVME hat actually of any real use on a Raspberry Pi 5? Sure it would be smaller but performance wise and cost wise, the 4x SATA hat with SSDs would be better I assume?

Oh my gosh, I just realized that Lil Nas is Lil Nas X. Time to store a bunch of rap musics on my NAS.

You don’t need a rtc battery if you keep the pi 5 connected to power. The RTC will stay on during sleep as long as usb-c power is applied

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

True; just easier if there is an outage, or if I need to move the Pi somewhere and Internet is down when it boots.

Talk of dimming the lights. Reminds me of VGG or Mustie1 when their compressors go on. Hey, we're men with diverse interests. 🙂

1:45 i have that exact Drive enclosure for my Rasp Pi Nas (which i nicknamed NASzilla)

hey there... would like to see a comparison of the board that ltt showed witth the nvme board for the pi5 performance and power consumption etc... other than that nice video

Please, pleeeeaseeee show us the add-on card with the four M.2 SSDs! I will also equip my Mixtile Cluster with such drives, as the backplane has M.2 slots on the back, one for every node.

0.13 USD per kWh? (laughs in Quebec) Consider moving to Montreal just for the 0.067 CAD (0.048 USD) per kWh. Come for the electricity prices, stay for the university tuition for your kids (5300 CAD per year, or about 3900 USD). EDIT: And the A&W is actually good here, as we discussed previously.

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Indeed, I kinda miss actual poutine

Please let that undisclosed youtuber collaboration be Wendel from Lvl1

Yea I'd be interested in a 4 nvme pi

could you use that NVME adaptor to have those SATA converters and drive like 16 sata drives?

I recently upgraded my nas from 6 1tb drives to 4tb ones, and while they are a bit louder, they also draw in total 20w less under max load than old ones And now i can use the old drives to build an offsite backup location I just need a 4g/lte router as there are no isps nearby

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

Backups over 4G can be pricey, unless you get a good wireless ISP!

@Napert

14 күн бұрын

​@@JeffGeerlingI plan to make the first backup over LAN, then move the nas to the offsite location I spotted a 100GB/~5$/mo. plan from one of the providers, and I don't think I'll be using anything close to the limit, so I think I should be fine in that regard

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

@@Napert Ah, not bad at all then! I'm just thinking of how I do a video project every week, almost every one is 50-80 GB of footage nowadays :O

10:17 it would be good if you did show how you made it on 3d software and printing it off

If you spray the window with water before applying the decal it's much easier to get bubbles out.

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

D'oh! Will try next time.

@PioneerAxon

13 күн бұрын

This! Spray of soapy water makes it a breeze. It also lets you slide the sticker around in case it gets misaligned. Push all the water out from center to edges once you're done. Used this for large 8 sqft stickers!

Definitely looking forward to the Radxa case for Lil NAS, didn't see it linked or is it not actually available yet?

@JeffGeerling

13 күн бұрын

It's on GrabCAD, I didn't remember to paste the link in the description.

Fine business. I see you have some K5 radios. I have one to play with. 73 de WC8Q.

Regarding your Comment on the Prices of SSDs increasing, I remember reading (a while ago, mind you, but not more than a year ago) that Samsung and other Flash Storage Manufacturers reduced their production due to a massive glut of Flash storage and dropping prices, I guess this is an after effect that got ya.

Very cool - now we’ve got the NAS covered, may I ask if, with the launch of raspberry pi 5 if you think the power is up to running as a replacement router / firewall (open wrt or similar). I tried it a few years back on the 4 but it couldn’t quite handle 1gb internet connections… have you had a chance to test the pi 5 on this kind of thing as you setup your new office?

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

I haven't put it under load yet, but there are a few 1 Gbps and 2.5 Gbps HATs I've tested for Pi 5. I would like to put up a firewall and do some switching to see if it's good enough for 1 or 2.5 Gbps now.

I know you wrote 'Not a server' but still please emphasize that backups are NOT safe on non-ecc based computers. Even though it does not happen often with that limited amount of memory it still does not induce 'piece of mind'. I love your videos! Thanks Jeff! 🙂

@JeffGeerling

14 күн бұрын

For a secondary NAS/backup, using ZFS and scrubbing gives me more peace of mind than ECC. I would like full ECC on cheaper devices but it probably won't happen any time soon. The LPDDR4x has built-in ECC mostly to help with the fact it needs it internally, but I'm less worried about that for my data (especially video, which can deal with a flipped bit every now and then, with no noticeable artifacts). If I were storing financial data or databases, I would be a lot more concerned, though! Or if I had a photo library I wanted to preserve for the next 10,000 years. As it stands, ECC is too expensive for me to want to put it in every system I build.

So those Samsungs do read zero after trim? Did not know any consumer drives did that. Or if not, how do you deal with that whole situation? Tyan board just got delivered. The last piece of new Siena NAS. Time to see if those Phoronix numbers are real or not.

Just waiting for the day that the Gerling Screw Driver is reviewed against the LTT Screw Driver.