I use all Mellings oil pumps and I always open them up and inspect and CLEAN them. Also porting the oil pump to the block is a great idea too as the holes are normally way off from matching..

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve! I’ll pin this one for anyone curious. I was glad to see this one made in the USA.

@johnwilburn

3 жыл бұрын

Ever find RTV in one?

@SteveP-vm1uc

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnwilburn Not in a new pump, but I have pulled many pick up tubes that were about sealed with it. When pulling the engines apart it was most obviously way too much RTV used on the china walls. This is one of those times size can HURT! TOO MUCH and you can send several paychecks down the drain.... I have seen enough to seal a fist sized window in a motor.. Even worse, A few times it has been people I know who did it!!!

@SteveP-vm1uc

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe Thanks Joe. I love your channel and the fact that you make it easier for the young guns to dig in and get into a great hobby..

@johnwilburn

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveP-vm1uc I've heard too much size can hurt... just taking others' word for it, though.

Lookin' good !! And I'm a believer in the Ultra Grey RTV

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

I love it. I like the red high temp too, mostly because it blends in with the orange 😅. Thanks for watching. I hear you’re the Ford Van whisperer now! I actually have an 84 bronco with 351 that I have to overhaul before too long. Sadly, I don’t think I can put it on the channel. When I did the mustang stuff, my Mopar people rebelled.

@318willrun

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe Ha ! Ford Van "whisperer".... LOL

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@wheels-n-tires1846

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!! Swear by it as a byproduct of my diesel shop days!!!

Looking great Joe, this thing is going to be a tire shredder!!

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! I’m excited to film it again after install. Hope to get it on a dyno and see what a budget big block makes!

Great job as usual,

@JustMoparJoe

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’m working on a 440 now!

@georgehebb9806

7 ай бұрын

@JustMoparJoe I have a 440 that was given to me from a cousin of mine. I've always been a 318 person, but I want more power. I can't wait to see ur 440 episode.

@JustMoparJoe

7 ай бұрын

@@georgehebb9806 thank you! The 440 o I’ll be double the power and torque of a stock 318 💪🏻

@georgehebb9806

7 ай бұрын

@JustMoparJoe I still need manifolds, Bell housing, and flywheel. I'm getting there. I have 8 3/4 323 possi rears looking for a 373 8 3/4 possi rear.

@JustMoparJoe

7 ай бұрын

@@georgehebb9806 the 440 definitely works better with the 3.23 than the old 318. 3.73’a are fairly uncommon in the mopar world

When coming up in my diesel tech career, had the luck and pleasure of working under an old timer with eons of knowledge. He taught me that when torquing anything of importance, that you continued doing the final sequence, over and over, until no fasteners moved. "Didnt that one move??"... "Yup." "Ok, go around again"... He said that was the difference between good and perfect. When we're building engines, and Im looking over the kid's shoulders, they now hate hearing "didnt that one move?", but they're learning!!!🤣

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

That’s the way! I like the old clock torque wrench. I like to hear that click twice before moving on. 😂

Remeber the cliff-hangers before a commercial on The Dukes of Hazzard? Well...

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! I should have done my best Waylon Jennings at the end

Good job thank you Joe another big block is ready to go

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! This one sounds mean!

As usual, informative and fun to watch.

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! Gotta finish up the top end and get that break in video out soon!

Looking real nice Joe great job cant wait for the break in video !!!!!

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill! It’s coming soon. I’m really trying not to rush the build videos at the end. It’s very tempting! 😂

Great Work Joe!! That Motor is coming out perfect! I bet its going to make that truck rip!

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Duddie. He’s got it in place now. Waiting on some parts deliveries to make it go down the highway

I was Just Checking. I also open them up..i've seen new ones that are dirty.

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

It’s always possible. Thanks brother!

Awesome 👍

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! It’s been a fun one to build. Sounded mean!

Nice video Joe. I used the Airtex 440hp fuel pump on my build, they are rebuildable

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother. That’s certainly a better pump than this. I showed the owner the other day that the inlet on this one looks to be 5/16 or smaller. If it’s running out of fuel at higher rpm, he should start there!

Nice video and series!! What kind of sealant are you using for the bolts in the water pump/housing and fuel pump?

@JustMoparJoe

2 жыл бұрын

I usually like permatex with ptfe or good old Teflon tape. Thanks for the support!

I hope not checking out the new oil pump doesn't bite you in the ass. I always take them apart with a can of brake clean to clean out the machine oil & dirt on the inside.

@JustMoparJoe

2 жыл бұрын

My ass remains unbitten. Engine runs like a top. It’s in a 74 d100. I’ve got a video up of it.

I usually disassemble my oil pumps to make sure they are free of debris. I have found grit in quite a few.

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely doesn’t hurt to. I’ve only looked in one and it was good. Anything with moving parts like that could be contaminated for sure.

I always remove the cover on the oil pump, I’ve seen it more than once that the primary oil feed hole wasn’t drilled deep enough causing a major restriction. It needs to be opened up with a long carbide cutter. Never just install the oil pump on a big block!

@JustMoparJoe

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

👍

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!

Have you had any problems with that 440 source wtr pump housing as of yet? looking to drop a few pounds my self

@JustMoparJoe

Жыл бұрын

No issues. This was on a different car before for years. It was a racecar, never got over 190 after a pass.

I see the dish pistons. What’s your compression ratio on the rebuild?

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David. It wasn’t worth checking to me. We knew it’d be low with the dished stock pistons. The heads have been milled, but are the open chambered design. I’m certain it will do great in his single cab truck. We are still discussing a chassis dyno session with it. I will have cameras ready.

What is the advantage to those deep dish pistons? I used the factory flat top. Mine needs 93+ octane. We only have 91 here.

@JustMoparJoe

2 жыл бұрын

This one definitely can go with 87 octane. The engine didn’t need bored at all, and the owner was trying to stay budget friendly. 413 pistons are usually 300$ more than 440 because of the odd bore size. This engine is in his d100 truck now. I hope to do an update video with it again.

Hey Joe, I know this is an old video but I'm hoping you can help me. I'm building a street/strip 413 myself and having trouble deciding on which heads to use. I have the factory 516 heads with the closed chambers and small exhaust valves, I was planning on putting bigger valves in since it needs hardened seats anyhow. I also have a single 452 and a single 346, bigger valves but open chamber. Can I mix and match those two heads? I'm going to run factory flat top replacement pistons so a little compression loss with the open chambers probably isn't going to hurt too much. Both sets need rebuilt so they are going to the machine shop regardless.

@JustMoparJoe

7 ай бұрын

Thanks brother. If your budget allows, buy some 440 source heads and save the weight. Not to mention the flow benefits. However I understand using what you have and having a good engine. I would use the closed chambers and have the valves put in from the other two heads, or find another 452. They were nearly Identical to the 906’s, but with hardened seats. You can have them milled for a slight bump in compression. I know there’s plenty of stock cores out there that guys would sell for cheap.

@CatastrophicFarms

7 ай бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. I’m wanting to stick with the factory steel jobs even though I know the 440Source heads are probably better. I’m leaning towards running the 516s and using bigger valves I was just concerned if bigger valves might not flow well into the smaller 413 bore. I forget the term for it, but it’s when the air can’t get around the valve quick enough. Just out of curiosity, can that 346 head be mixed with a 452 or is that a bad idea?

Nice work! What kinda horsepower are you expecting?

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother. I’d expect somewhere around 350 horsepower, and over 400 foot pounds from 2,000-4,000 rpm. It’s just being built as a good street engine. Will probably never see a racetrack.

Call me a noob or whatever, but what did you use to plug the extra holes in the 440 source water pump housing? Love the videos watched this one at least 12 times...

@JustMoparJoe

2 жыл бұрын

If they were threaded, then it just got pipe plugs. I usually run the temperature gauge sensor in one of them.

When I take off the heads off my 400 big block do I need to do it in sync with or just take it off regular

@JustMoparJoe

2 жыл бұрын

You can take them off any way. The head will probably need resurfaced and the block deck surface checked for straightness.

@dannyskaggs6587

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe thanks buddy I hope you and everybody doing good holler at me later

When you mount the fuel pump do you have to push that rod into the engine, like on a small block chevy?

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir. You slide the rod in and position the arm against it.

@nastybastardatlive

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe thanks. I'm doing the fuel pump on my 361, and wanted to do the research before I started.

Did 440 source update their design? I've read in the past guys were having problems with them cooling the passages in the pump being a but small.

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

I heard about some issues with them. This one worked perfectly. We were able to break the engine in the other day with a 3-4 core stick sized copper radiator, plastic shroud, and flex fan. I believe many guys buy small radiators or try to cool their cars with a poor fan design. This one never got over 185.

@slowg8701

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe Nice!

@karlsracing8422

3 жыл бұрын

I bought one from the clearance section at 440source and been cooling my 12 second 413 for 3yrs. They said it's slightly smaller in some areas but doesn't seem to overheat. A good rad and water pump is more important.

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I like when people can share real world knowledge on parts. This is the second one I’ve seen and both were good.

So , this is going in a truck ? Your 413 has dished pistons . does that mean you can run 91 octane fuel ?

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

It would probably be fine with 87. Compression will be in the 8’s. The owner is putting this in his 74-5 d100. I will get video of it once fully installed.

So You Put the oil Pump On Dry?

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir. I’ve got a 16” rod that I always prime the pump with, before running. I’ll show it in the break in video. Have to turn the engine over at the same time to get oil to the rockers.

Did you port the heads?

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

I did not. They were ported by an unknown source. It seems to be better than a simple gasket match.

@Link-we8so

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustMoparJoe Well I've enjoyed all your small block porting. I'd like to see you do a big block set!

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

I will someday. I’ve got a 400 that I want to put into something and an unmolested pair of 915’s 👍🏼👍🏼

@Link-we8so

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! I've got a 440 im kinda thinking about building a rat rod with it... but at the moment I'm building a 408 stroker for a dart

Never install an oil pump right out of the box , take it apart clean it , apply heavy grease to the rotor and drive so it’s not running metal to metal . you spent so much time cleaning the block so it’s perfect and then you use a dirty oil pump, makes no sense!

@JustMoparJoe

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gord! The ones I’ve taken apart and checked have been spotless. It certainly doesn’t hurt to strip one down.