*only 5 to 6 hours of playtime per day*

@BigDippas

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man im not an alcoholic, I only drink 18 beers a night.

@Ilhtilior

5 жыл бұрын

Well, this is wow we're talking about... Also if you have a 9 to 5 job and love wow, you can totally play 6 to midnight and here are your 6 hours (and no social life)

@tomforealz4482

5 жыл бұрын

@@Ilhtilior i think there are some other elements to daily life you are missing out...

@sanserof7

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomforealz4482 maybe in your life

@tomforealz4482

5 жыл бұрын

@@sanserof7 bathing, cooking and cleaning being a few off the top of my head... unless you got mummy to do it.

u made it sound like the stat squish finally happened after 10 years of talking about it... i think u missed out on the fact that this isnt the first stat squish lol

@Thalaranthey

5 жыл бұрын

he propably did, but tbh i didnt know about it either before i read that just bcs how soon it was overcame with stat increase ;p

@AnnoyingSwedishGuy

5 жыл бұрын

The first one was during MoP when he didn't play retail, makes sense tbh.

@aufgosh8251

5 жыл бұрын

Da Coach the first one was with wod prepatch, not in wod.

@errolalcoseba6323

5 жыл бұрын

first time having ilvl squish.

@enurhel3327

5 жыл бұрын

becaus ilvl matters for what?

Some great points in here OG - enjoyed it!

Woah I saw you in game and now you're in my suggested videos. This is crazy

You totally nailed this video. I don't know you, I don't follow your channel. This video just popped up at my home screen. And you totally nailed it. You presented all the issues that plague BfA currently without becoming an elitist or going "muh vanilla was better". There's a happy medium between modern day WoW and hardcore, rough around the edges Vanilla/TBC WoW.

Very interesting to see the differences in your viewpoint and others who have played all along. The flightmaster whistle never even ocured to me as something that would make people mad.

all blues should be whites. bring back the importance of gear rarity

@deepvoid2871

5 жыл бұрын

yeah agreed %100

@SuperUnavailableName

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah all Police Officers should be white. It would prevent black officers to harass white due to black privilege.

@ralfrudi3963

5 жыл бұрын

Never understood that tbh. What it really change anything if you change the colour of items? For me it doesnt. If a white item is better than an epic one I would equipt the white one without a second thought. Maybe some peoples brain are hardwired to colours idk.

@enurhel3327

5 жыл бұрын

greens and blues have no difference in bfa btw, if you didnt notice. a 280 ilvl weapon green has the same stats as a 280 ilvl blue.

@aaakitsune

5 жыл бұрын

Ever since WotLK arrived, the loot system changed to what ive been calling "World of welfare". These days everyone gets epics and it have no meaning. Wow and casuals think that making things easier is equal to making things better, but their wrong. Easier means less excitement and thus people get bored faster.

My problem with retail is it gets me hooked for like the first week, but after that i usually et bored for some reason. Vanilla keeps me playing for much much longer

@TheBlorgish

5 жыл бұрын

The game has more depth than the content Activision has them make today. However, BLIZZARD is making Classic for us and its perfect so far from their announcements.

@TheHelix123

5 жыл бұрын

Darkhalls how can you still enjoy a game that’s been out since 2004??! Don’t you get bored of doing AQ40 a millionth time or dying to that rogue etc etc.

@YoSoyKahn

4 жыл бұрын

Arnav Behari not everyone played on private servers. Idk about the other replies but I started in cata and this classic version is by far the best version of wow I played. Only really don’t have a full view on WoD and BFA because I quit so early, but definitely better then any patch I have played which is most of them after WOTlk ended

@mkuroglu

3 жыл бұрын

same here it is due to the items all being same and classes feeling similar and wqs being a chore :)

@mkuroglu

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheHelix123 i have done freehold mythic + probably 100 times, so this argument is meh

Do you go into combat as you start casting in BfA then? Because distract doesn't affect targets in combat in vanilla either (I assume for pve/rp reasons)

Whistle can't be used in combat btw. So it would take 6 seconds for combat to drop + 4 seconds to use the whistle under normal circumstances, but like the clip shows, if you vanish and drop combat, then so does your opponent if he was only in combat with you and nothing else. Could literally interrupt by just poking him, there's not much difference between this and just mounting up and running away. He was literally being clever, either by getting the unstealth without opener, or the escape. At least as genius as using distract as an interrupt :p

@generalgrievuuz

5 жыл бұрын

Also, just to point it out, this is a rogue, complaining that another class has a button that lets him escape xD The irony doesn't get any thicker than that.

@corvyn152

5 жыл бұрын

D i v i n e p r o t e c t i o n and b l e s s i n g o f p r o t e c t i o n, this has nothing to do with him being a rogue, you're just a child who invalidates the words of a player based off of a class lol

@generalgrievuuz

5 жыл бұрын

Oozaiki That was extremely incoherent, come again?

@corvyn152

5 жыл бұрын

It was coherent, just was emphasized, the paladin used both of his immunities cause forbearance doesnt exist anymore, so he couldnt do a single thing about the whistle use.

@DJRoxxorblack

5 жыл бұрын

Forbearence is in the game, wtf are you on about? Whistle can't be used in combat. Doesn't matter if you bubble or not. Edit: Try mounting next time you are in a bubble and see how that works out for you when people are whacking you.

What's the name of the opening song you used?

LOL. this was good thank u. first wow video I think ive enjoyed and respected in the last 7 years.

First honest and smart review of WoW, in years!

Great video enjoyed it!

One thing I really hate in modern wow is the floating heads that pop up at the bottom of the screen, What do we magic voice coms now? Let the npc talk when im standing next to it.

This is SUCH a welmade video.. Very informative for any1 who are affected by this subject I'd say. Subbed :)

A TURTLE MADE IT TO THE WATER! :')

@somenerdguy9751

5 жыл бұрын

THE CYCLE OF LIFE CAN BE CRUEL!

I can agree with alot of these, also quit in cata because of the sole purpose of "too much of everything". But came back for BfA and as a firemage I've been absolutely loving world pvp to be exact, its never been this good! I can actually do 1vX again, last time being TBC.. Some of the quality of life changes suck bigtime but as long as im laughing my ass of while riding a goblin glider and scorching enemys and throwing instant pyroblasts, im going to continue playing^^ good video my dude

Hey, OG i just found your channel. You sound very familiar. And to be honest, for such small channel - you are making some high quality content. I really enjoyed it. Subscribed. waiting for classic :) !

this sums it up =) thank you! see you in vanilla :D

Love the bear mount!

Perfect. Thank you for voicing all our opinions on BFA. - Old School Vanilla Player

When you talk about the loss of hybrid specs, that shit was spot on. When I came back to try legion and found that my mage could no longer be elemental (half points in ice half in fire) and that by picking fire I lost basically all my ice spells....man that shit was wack. There is no more spell diversity for classes, no more ability to experiment with different degrees of hybrid specs.

In this video u tell u have about 6 hours of play time, is any high rank vanilla achiveable with that amount of gametime?

@JAYDON424

5 жыл бұрын

account sharing with family members is allowed now so if you want r14 you need to play 12hrs straight then get your "family member" to play for other 12 hours evan then its not 100%

i honestly believe that you nailed it spot on.

solid review, blizz definitely went down the wrong paths starting from cata

@DFOSpitfire

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe Cata-Wod but have you tried either of the newest expacs?

This is the second stat squish they have done... or even the 3rd...

Distract can't be used on targets in combat in vanilla as well...

Thank you for this :)

Flight master whistle can't be used while in combat. So you'd have to wait for your CC to drop you out of combat before you could use it which with the cc in itself takes about 5 seconds to drop combat depending which CC it is you're using.

thumbs up from me gee. you nailed it!

"Ever since cataclysm when I quit there have been too many abilities and it felt cluttered" In wrath some classes had way more abilities than in any expansion and like a third of them you didn't even use. Cataclysm trimmed down the amount of useless abilities and made most abilities you had worth using. Unlike the spell Heal for priests that you never used in wrath due to it being bad. MoP trimmed even more so and made almost every single ability something that you used. MoP in my opinion is the best expansion mechanically due to almost every single spell you had, had its place while keeping each class' uniqueness and identity as well as making the classes somewhat easy to pick up. Though after MoP Blizzard had begun a prune fest, where they removed abilities that nobody wanted removed like Fel Flame for warlocks in WoD and Cold Snap for every non frost mage in Legion. During WoD Blizzard started simplifyng classes and specs just so they could attract a younger audience and make more money out of WoW which had started to decline in the early stages of MoP, to the point where every class had 10-20 spells max in Legion.

Thanks oyu for this good Video. You just summed up my exact thoughts on BFA. I quitted a week ago.

The game is headed in the right direction. Have had a tremendous amount of fun playing WoW again.

Modern WoW is missing immersion. The only time I feel it now is while exploring new zones. In Vanilla you log in and it's like stepping off the deep end.

@Surtur99

5 жыл бұрын

Probably because a lot of rpg aspects have been removed or extremely streamlined. Vanilla was not only a game, but like a fantasy world simulator, unlkine Modern Wow. Also it is way more social.

@honigdachs.

5 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. It's all in your head. Classic WoW was mostly very primitive, often times outright empty and makeshift. It was an extremely ambitious game made by at the time inexperienced people who were kind of winging it and learning on the job. John Staats' "WoW diary" interviews are making this pretty obvious. Modern WoW is what Blizzard wanted to do back then, but didn't have the knowledge and ressources.

@Surtur99

5 жыл бұрын

Classic Wow and Modern Wow are two very different games and i think each playerbase values different things. I can only play modern Wow for about 2 hours, then i get bored. While Vanilla probably up to 5 or 6 before i burn out. It just depends on preferences i suppose. Nonsense you say? Can you really say that a lot of rpg aspects have not been removed from Wow?

@honigdachs.

5 жыл бұрын

No, I can't really think of any significant "RPG elements" having been removed from WoW that I miss in today's game. It doesn't even make sense. WoW back then was a way more simpler and much less thought-out game. What was there to remove? When people talk about lost "RPG elements" in WoW, mostly they end up mentioning totally nonsensical things. Like "you had to carry around reagents in your backpack to make your own poisons". Which is an incredibly negligible aspect that doesn't make any kind of difference whatsoever. You literally bought the crap off the next available NPC you could find. WoW. What an RPG experience. I get the feeling that these people never played an actual RPG in their life.

@Surtur99

5 жыл бұрын

Ah you know, things like not instantly teleporting to an instance. Having to fight your way into it, once having formed a group. In my opinion current Wow lacks a ''journey'', most people today just wants to get to max level as soon as possible and only see the end game as worth while. While Vanilla 's leveling difficulty encourages people to be more social, to group up and ect. If you make a multiplayer game, make it encourage talking to people. In modern Wow you can run dungeons while not saying a single word. I find that quite different with vanillas. As for rpg elements...The class quests with specific class rewards? Walking to dungeon (like i mentioned), professions being useful while leveling, feeding pets with specific food, ability training and ranks, attunements, keys for dungeons, dungeons being dangerous during leveling, dishonorable kills, gold was harder to come by, you did not fly over everything with flying mounts fast as planes (thus the world feeling more huge), classes had more identity, warlocks earning their demons, resist gear, stealth levels, weapon skills, pvp ranking system and the list goes on.

I thought this was an april fools joke. I am shocked that a vanilla player actually likes the worst parts of BFA.

@mkuroglu

3 жыл бұрын

we miss you Barack. He is trying to be overly optimistic since this was beginning of Bfa im guessing. He hadnt seen the corruption debacle

Great vid

*says he hasn't played since cataclysm* *immediately references past few expansions*

@jojibot9193

5 жыл бұрын

blah rar He could have done some kind of research. You know research? It’s a bit useful

@Quivna

5 жыл бұрын

Even if he played 120 hours of past expansions it doesnt compare to the 1000000 hours spent pre WoD I barely played everything past cata as well

@davidehorn2035

5 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Hasn't play since Cata, says best dungeons so far. How would he know that if he never played them at progression level. Click bait dot com

@iNuminex

5 жыл бұрын

If he had done any research whatsoever, he would probably know that the whole "99% of the time you pick higher ilvl" is pretty much as wrong as you can be. If he played even the slightest bit of max level content, or visited reddit like ever, he would've seen it himself or at least witness all the people whining about that.

@JoseLopez-uq2uf

5 жыл бұрын

as a wow player one would know you never really quit wow he most likely kept along this whole time BTW ITS POSSIBLE TO KEEP ALONG AND NOT PLAY

What distance closer does shaman have?

@DFOSpitfire

5 жыл бұрын

lol idk.

@jong2359

5 жыл бұрын

FROSTSHOCK!!!!!!!

@aj6761

5 жыл бұрын

@@jong2359 lmfao that's what you consider a distance closer? Shamans have 0 benefit in closing distance other than keeping you in range. If anything, we use frostshock to kite melee to prevent being roflstomped or stunned to death.

@jong2359

5 жыл бұрын

It's a joke from vanilla days... FROSTSHOCK!!!!!!!

@aj6761

5 жыл бұрын

@@jong2359 lol oh ok. My bad. I played a hunter in vanilla.

Pretty nice summary. The class homogenization point really rings true as well. If you play a caster you'll notice they rely mostly on instant casts, have no mana any more and their filler casts do no damage. They play like hunters.

A genuine, non-aggressive and polite review of a game. Every fan boy comes out of their bush to throw shade, dislike and being obnoxious in general. "B-but I-I like this game thou!"

Can someone explain to me what the difference between vanilla servers and the wow “classic” edition? I was under the impression that wow “classic” was a vanilla server that was recently released but this guy has been playing a vanilla server for 5+ years

@blarghts

5 жыл бұрын

Classic is an upcoming project from blizzard to reintroduce the original World of Warcraft with no expansions (this state of the game is called Vanilla WoW). Many players after years of Blizz not offering such a server went through the painstaking task of recreating the game from client side data and estimations based on surviving data from the time period of things done server side in 2004-2006 and created what is referred to as Private Servers. There is a rather sizable people that play on these servers because they prefer the game in this state and the video maker is one of these people.

You fucking nailed it, right on the spot!

I hear what you're saying about the FMW. But... I've never been able to use it to dodge a pvp fight. I kind of like it when you're grinding really overly easy WQ's for rep.. it saves SO much time right now w/o flying.

"the stat squished talked about for a decade finally happened" What?

"Use the highest item level" of that casual mindset erks me

I'd like to see your review post ilvl 355

the flight masters whistle is this guys biggest complaint lmao

Also the FM whistle can't be used in combat, so there's that. Also if you're finding people escaping via glider kits, *use stuns* , stops them (and by them I mean me...) in their tracks.

With the flight masters whistle, in legion you couldn't kill the player but you could kill the flying beast that picks them up. Then the beast drop the player and you can kill them then. I haven't tried but i think you can do it in bfa.

thanks for your review, it sounds you're a similar player to me, and the negatives you mention certainly outweigh the positives you mention for me. i will indeed wait for classic.

well explained except i think the part about cataclysm bringing too much abilities to the table is wrong. I think cata had a perfect amount of abilities for someone who doesn't use an mmo mouse to keybind all there abilities without running out of keybinds. and this comes from someone who plays subtlety (one of the hardest classes in cata) without an mmo mouse. i thought them making smoke bomb reset on prep was a good thing, it lead to new comps such as double rogue healer. even though that was probably not the healthiest comp for the game, but it was definitely a change to the gameplay of arena. more comps = more room to play and makes the game way more interesting also other things i like is how preparation reset shadowstep as well because it makes if you have shadowstep on cooldown, you can prep shadowstep focus kick the healer when the target is low and end up getting the kill. now when we talk about MoP i think it was pretty absurd how many abilities were in the game which the community realized and complained about so they decided to prune in WoD. the way they did it led to the classes becoming homogenized by removing unique abilities of a certain class/spec TL;DR the game needs to challenge people, not hold there hands. new players will always have no clue what the fuck is going on when they first join an mmo. that is part of the mmo experience and what makes them play numerous years still learning the game and being challenged instead of trying out wow every expansion then give up after 1 month because the game is just stale. it's literally a shadow of its former self, and it's sad because it has potential could be as big as fortnite if they do it right.

Lost my interest when you said you were glad for the removal of class abilities

@ihavenoidea4727

5 жыл бұрын

I bet u liked wod pvp OMEGALUL

@alaryus5323

5 жыл бұрын

You should watch all the video there's some nuance to it by wotlk/cata there were just so many but they definitely went about it in a wrong way there are fewer abilities than in vanilla now which is fucked up you shouldn't have less abilities than when the game came out.

@derekmorris89

5 жыл бұрын

Why? He is right. There were way too many different and unecessary abilities. Get the fuck over it.

@gladcomming

5 жыл бұрын

@@derekmorris89 stfu braindead tard, go play lol if u want to click 5 spells u have no idea how outplay works cuz ur a 1.5 k mmr fuckface

@whatswithyous

5 жыл бұрын

wait wow only has 5 abilites? thats lame...

I main rogue because PvP is my favorite part of wow, and I swear the distract nerf was incredibly triggering... I thought I wasn’t doing it right at first but it would never effing go off unless I was stealthed and not fighting yet. It never gave me the combat error so I didn’t know wtf was up.

actualy this was the second statsquish in wows history. the first was a couple of expansions back in the prepatch for warlords of draenor on October 14, 2014

Thank you, this answered all question I have had about BFA and has effectively neutralized any of those shreds of consideration in the back of my mind telling me to give it a try. I'll keep playing on Northdale - vanilla and keep waiting for classic.

So uhh... You know the Flight Master's Whistle (unlike the Hearthstone) can't be used in combat... Right?

You have trinket for the 4 second CC and you also have the fact that everytime you die you take longer before you can respawn :)

i had ungoro vibes while leveling in zuldazar. felt amazing ☺

You can't use the whistle in combat btw so no bubble hearths for all.

I think you hit a lot of valid points. I've played retail since launch, and for every new exciting feature, I feel like the game has lost something. Instead of just liking the game, every expansion brings a widening gap between what I love and hate about it. I miss being a class that specialized in something, not that all rogues felt the same regardless of spec, but ROGUE was the identity, now Outlaw/Sub/Assassin are basically treated like separate classes on their own. It's hard to have class identity when there's 33 of them. Your PVP points I agree with fully, and I'm trying to enjoy it now while I can. Sooner or later, flying will be introduced again, and wPVP will largely disappear outside which ever new landmass we go to for the patch. World Quests certainly helped bring the 'world' back to world of warcraft, but like with your distract example, it's no longer a world to play in. Everything is now about streamlined progression, with little to no thought about what to do outside of it. Enchanters used to have enchants for various gear slots with varying effects and past a certain point had to enter the dungeon Uldaman to learn the proper recipes. Now enchanting only covers flat throughput/stats to weapons and rings, with some wands to craft that are worse than drops from normal dungeons. There's just no depth.

comparing new WoW with Vanilla WoW is like comparing Diablo 3 with Diablo 2

@Darkvega2k7

5 жыл бұрын

Yea, current WoW is clearly the better choice.

@mards2479

5 жыл бұрын

Diablo 2 was far superior

@mards2479

5 жыл бұрын

As is vanilla wow

@RedBeard26

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I like current wow better cause I havent played vanilla wow! And I like Diablo 3 better because I havent played Diablo 2!! Its the same comparison!

@ijachoel

5 жыл бұрын

Actually i like Vanilla WoW and Diablo 2 more but i just wanted to state that the changes of Vanilla WoW to current WoW and the changes of Diablo 2 to Diablo 3 are very simular. they simplified their games to a degree that i as a gamer just can't have fun playing them but i can understand why many people don't agree with that

Haven't had the same experience with graveyards, in my experience, they are always super inconvenient and far away. Also, it is not mostly, "go with the item level upgrade", It took me weeks to replace a 325 socketed heroic ring because most 340 rings were still a dps downgrade according to hundreds of sims.

the only thing new in this expansion that he marked as a plus is warmode, everything else was introduced in previous expacs. so the only plus is warmode.

I definitely agree on the 5 man dungeons. They are actually fun, their like mini raids!

What is the difference between a vanilla player and a classic player? I thought it was the same ( I thought a vanilla player is a player that has only played the original world of warcraft without any expansion, but this man has played until cataclysm)

The one thing I agree with you the most on is that world pvp has definitely been ruined. They have made it more about group zergs than good 1v1 or 1v2, etc. 4 second cc's, dr's, the whistle, etc. all screw up world pvp so much and wpvp was one of my favorite things to do!

As a vanilla lover as myself, I watched the video and thought "well I wasn't expecting to agree to everything he said, but some things were just cringy". 1) You don't play since cataclysm, but talk about "BFA previous expansions". 2) "This is the first stat squish" - it wasn't. It was the first ItemLevel squish. 3) The FlightMaster's whistle is one of the best features of the game since it was introduced in Legion. Having a huge world like BFA/Legion where you have to walk everywhere SLOWLY is one of the things that bore people to death. That's why Flying is loved by almost everyone (I like it but I see the value in a world where you can't simply pass through difficult mobs and avoid enemies as you wish). Going back to FlightMaster's Whistle, it lets you return to the nearest Flight's master. It is a great QoL addition - the only problem here is that it can be used to evade PvP when you don't want it. Thing is.... if the enemy is in combat, he can't cast it. If the enemy is casting it, simply attacking him will put the enemy in combat and automatically cancel the cast (immunity doesn't matter). So, in the end, the only class that can actually use this for its own benefit is the rogue, since stun, clearing debuffs, vanish, sprint and a possible sap will give you all the time you need to get some distance and start casting it. Everyone else is stuck in combat. 4) Running back when killed - Well in PvP I agree that it is a short time. In PvE, it isn't. Its ridiculous to spend more than 15 seconds going back (especially if you don't have a passive movement speed or activable abilities such as ghost wolf form or roll) since it will make it so the Rare/World Boss you were killing is most likely already dead by other players, forcing you to wait even more time. 5) removal of class abilities... what? I hated the removal of most abilities 6) class Homogenization - agree 7) talents - agree, I miss the time where a class had N abilities NO MATTER the spec. Each spec simply enhanced some abilities or gave extra abilities. 8) art direction - agree

Fun Fact to the First Opinion (Zones Feel like Classic): zhe Continent Zandalar was Planned as the First Addon, BC was a Last Minute Decision by Blizzard.

Sad to hear about the graveyards. And too bad the classes still feel the same. It was the reason I quit. And I probably won't return unless they fix. It was also why and how threat was reduced to a joke, and how cc became useless in pve.

exactly my thoughts

on point

About the only thing you got right was class homogenization. You can't flightmaster whistle while in combat, which is why you only see Night Elves, Rogues and Paladins as able to do it. That place you killed that Horde that instantly respawned is literally right on their graveyard.

The Flight Master whistle can't be used in combat. If someone can pull off a Whistle while PvP is happening either: A) They are a Paladin, who could have bubble hearthed anyway B) You did something very very wrong, since every class has ranged offensive move and/or gap closers and no PvP based CC lasts long enough to both drop combat AND get off a 4 s cast

@Ao2BairdTUR

5 жыл бұрын

Force a Trinket with Kidney. Blind > Vanish > Sap > Whistle GG You also can whistle while stealthed :^)

@mike1716

5 жыл бұрын

Or shadowmeld during any 4+ second cc really, its not far-fetched. Poly+Invis as well

@OverworkedITGuy

5 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. Though I find it weird that a rogue would vanish+whistle instead of just killing their opponent. And to be fair once the vanish happens, a rogue could easily get well and far enough away to do just about whatever they wanted anyway. I do find it amusing that the vid example is a paladin though. Not really much difference between Bubble Hearth and Bubble Whistle.

@AkaroXIV

5 жыл бұрын

@@Ao2BairdTUR Except you didn't even need the whistle to get away in that scenario. If anything you showed that rogues have insane escape tools.

@Ao2BairdTUR

5 жыл бұрын

yeainothat the reason for sapping then whistle is if they don’t have trinket, you can guarantee safety, say you were fighting a demon hunter, if you just vanish and try to whistle, they can easily use sight and pop you back into combat.

Except for the point on Graveyards i totally agree.

back to the museum

i agree with almost everything you said great video cant wait to see you in classic... whenever that will be 2059????

I never thought about using whistle like that. It is very useful but maybe you are right, it should get some nerf. It shouldn't be used in combat or when enemies are nearby.

@DFOSpitfire

5 жыл бұрын

The actual info is wrong here, if you look in the clip he vanished (which removes combat may I add) which then the pally takes his time to cast the flight masters whistle and run away, possibly adding the bubble to make sure the rogue doesnt try to get him back into combat again.

Valuable insights. I couldn't agree with you more. Player ingenuity and playstyle flexibility are what made me fall in love with this game back in 2007. When I quit playing in 2015 it was overdue and every log in felt like okay I'm going to do this inane crap now and pvp was long dead. It went from feeling unique player to cookie cutter. Kicker is that I've stayed subbed and I bought the expansions so I still fully support the company but I haven't even been tempted to log into a game I loved. The classic servers announcement really got me interested again for obvious reasons but more so that I felt finally they were listening instead of telling players what they should like or else. I hope you give your feedback directly to them about things like the flight master whistle and gys. Seems like they could easily limit/omit those things in warmode. I hope they listen.

Hey you got a typo in the video title ;)

@OhhgeeHaptixGaming

5 жыл бұрын

Nerfi Mcnerfnerf thanks for that lol

So much hate from people.. sigh.. I think this video explained a lot of the ups and downs with BFA and wow in general. Great video.

So they turned Azeroth into a world-sized safespace?

@connermcmahan5528

5 жыл бұрын

LOL pretty much

@TwinklesTheChinchilla

5 жыл бұрын

There's only one thing left to do... MAKE WOW GREAT AGAIN! Trigger the blood elves, deport the casuals, and threaten to wipe Pandaria off the map. Actually, the latter should happen anyway.

@Garik_2182

5 жыл бұрын

the option is picking pvp whenever you want instead of chosing your realm and sticking to its type (and PvE realms existed since forever)

@celsosepulveda3363

5 жыл бұрын

this whole thread is pure cringe

@BaconMaken

5 жыл бұрын

@@TwinklesTheChinchilla Virgin

I don't understand the homogenization complaint, you prefer insurmountable counters? The argument for forcing players into certain play styles is also silly if you're trying to compare to past versions of the game. Optimization always put a certain spec ahead of others.

You just have to know how to gear and min max is still a huge thing. I get to play around 5 hours a day and I have 2 characters 373, both 5/8 mythic and 2300 in 2s and 3s. You just have to relearn the game gearing process, yes you get gear thats high ilvl but it's still starter gear that barely gets you through mythic dungeons, you have more gearing options with pvp, mythics and mythic plus, and raiding

Agreed, I returned after an 8yr break only to find that Blizzard still holds your hand and limits your freedom of experimentation. So much for the sandbox model. This MMO is like visiting Disney World, looks great at first, has a pleasant atmosphere but you are stuck riding the same damn rides. Looks like I'll return to playing EvE Online soon.

@schig1197

5 жыл бұрын

^that's exactly what I was thinking! lol what?

@LoserZalbo

5 жыл бұрын

Did you think WoW was UO?

2:41 good thinking blizz

5:15 you could blind him to interrupt the summon or just sap him after his shield runs out so he would not have been picked up. but i guess you did not know this at that point

7:51 only 5 hours of gameplay a day isn't good enough? How long are you planning to play a game each day without losing your job?

@GodzillasaurusJr

5 жыл бұрын

8 hours of work, 8 hours of sleep, 8 hours of free time = 24 hours. So, unless eating, travel and hygiene takes 3 hours each day for some reason, 5 hours isn't that much. Some people only sleep 6 hours, so that's 10 hours of free time each day for them.

I'm instantly seeing people disagreeing with some of your minor points disregarding any other points you made, firstly I'd point out this was a great and detailed video and completely agree with blizzard dumbing down everything "holding your hand". Since you didn't play in legion i'd like to point out alot of these systems and decisions where made in Legion as a massive content change and the way the game works which most players didn't mind cata->wod needed some huge changes to make everything "better", but what players didn't recognise was that Blizzard was looking to make BFA and the future of retail designed like this, The homogenisation of classes was only the beginning of there wrong steps. They've also homogenised professions and simplified every single aspect of the game, everything now is related to each other and corresponds with one another for example to advance in your professions to craft your 355 legs you're going to need to do dungeons, to do dungeons you're gonna need to do wq's/hc dungeons, to craft your belt you have to grind more RNG explusom, to then craft the next belt you need to do raiding, for that you're going to need AP. I think everyone that read this far can see where this is going but there is always 1 singular path the player has to take, there is 1 single talent build which is best (for most cases in DPS) All we can really hope for is that there's a bigger picture behind all of this and eventually they'll release a killer expansion with Old gods, class identity, new talents, revamped professions - there is no conclusion to this comment but I guess i just want to say that they have something amazing here, and there missing one piece of the puzzle it's unfortunate.

agree 100%

Im an OG hunter and im going to play wow classic when it comes and the only thing im not looking forward to again is maintaining ammunition again.

cool vid man :)

I agree with everything except what you said about world quests

my friend they give u a item like skill when u do a quest to be able to throw them dowhn from mounts and this thing its no different

Whatever you decide to do, definitely don't quit before running the new raids with a guild on voice comms. Uldir was pretty fun, and Dazar'Alor is fucking awesome so far (we're halfway through it since it opened yesterday, and are on track to clear it by tomorrow). I think you'll enjoy the mechanics, visuals, RP, and unique perspective of playing as another race in the opposite faction. It's pretty cool and innovative, imho. Let me know what you think! =)

I honestly never had the wpvp graveyard issue. Mainly because, being world pvp, most players are very opportunistic. If you've got enough fight in you to kill them, they usually leave you alone. (Unless you become an assassin, in which case they come back with 5 friends for that sweet, sweet honor bonus)

this might aswell have been a review of legion in the early days.

You can actually kill their flying mount from the whistle and cancel it.

Stats squish happened in WoD and Legion aswell, also since Cata, spells have been removed every expansion, either is unique to BFA

@mathewpadgett559

5 жыл бұрын

Retail sucks. Get over it

@somefuckinchump

5 жыл бұрын

BFA sucks legion was amazing MOP was great too. sorry if your glasses are too far up your own ass you old fuck

@TheRobochicken5494

5 жыл бұрын

Legion was the worst.

@markjuliano4908

5 жыл бұрын

Half the stuff he said was a step in the right direction happened in previous expansions. It shows he is talking way out of his field and obviously doesn't really know what he is talking about. People shouldn't take this guys opinion on retail too seriously.

@TheRobochicken5494

5 жыл бұрын

@@markjuliano4908 ye, but hes right though...

The thing about the old talent trees is this: all of the choices you had to spend your talent points on were an illusion. There were a few optimal choices and a wide variety of sub-optimal choices. To me, that's not so much choice but needless ambiguity. People eventually figured out what the optimal choices were and shared them on the Internet, thus eliminating the purpose of sub-optimal choices. Blizzard figured this out and just did away with the charade of choice for an alternative (and simpler) talent system that has more interesting options. Yes, there are still sub-optimal choices to make, depending on your goals, but that didn't make your toon as ineffective as, say, someone evenly distributing their talent points among all three talent trees for some imagined versatility.