This video is very nuanced

@dASTROnaut

5 жыл бұрын

i see what you did there.. O_O

@Demias.

5 жыл бұрын

when someone learns a new word and loves to use it a lot lol

@shiravalen

5 жыл бұрын

@@Demias. He used it to state the desired meaning every time, stop projecting.

@haffahorse1538

4 жыл бұрын

@@Demias. Big man use scary big word.

@oneNovember831

4 жыл бұрын

WeirdChamp

This video is easy to learn, hard to master.

@Zombgetsu

9 ай бұрын

Highly nuanced 😂

Rock, Paper, Scissors, Shadow Priest.

@Jozua86

5 жыл бұрын

Shamans counter shadow priests.

@Zeroctrl1

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jozua86 Then play horde shadowpriest ;-)

@lk1407

5 жыл бұрын

mushrooms win

@tylerbedwell2998

5 жыл бұрын

Everything has a counter regardless

@clv603

5 жыл бұрын

until shadow priest gets viper sting kited

This is the best "pick your class" video I've seen so far, exactly what I was looking for! The others didn't really explain the specific strenghts, weaknesses and roles of classes in pvp respectively, not to mention the impact of shamans/paladins. Good job man!

You produce some of the best Classic PvP content out there. MOAR PLEASE!

@stevie3452

5 жыл бұрын

Icosiol THE best! If there’s any other channels this good that I’m missing please list them here!

It really is a testament to how great class design was back then when I want to play nearly every class

@rickeyryan303

5 жыл бұрын

No it was pretty bad class design like really bad but it was fucking fun..

@iyaramonk

5 жыл бұрын

@@rickeyryan303 If it's fucking fun, it's not really bad...

@J0J0McM0M0

5 жыл бұрын

class design was bad^^ if you want to see wow with great class design, take a look at patch 5.4

@iyaramonk

5 жыл бұрын

@@J0J0McM0M0 For pvp? Hell no

@sebastianioanpop3895

5 жыл бұрын

@@J0J0McM0M0 Class design in MMORPG is not supposed to round up all classes, it would make sense that some classes hard counters others and each class has a strong identity and can shine in certain scenarios. In WOW today we don't exactly have that, all classes have self heals some sort of hard cc, ranged interrupts and so on which was done so that activision has an easier time with balancing classes. To be honest this is horrible class design, why would I pick DK over warrior or over ret pally? Sure they have some little identity left in their bigger cooldowns but overall they are the same class using the same gear. Also gear is less relevant in today pvp which takes the RPG out of MMO imho, if you do not have a reason to be equally as strong as someone else you SHOULD not, don't get me wrong I'm a casual player but I think this game is not too casual friendly. I used to walk around major cities and see these powerhouses in full raid gear with legendaries and I knew there was a huge gap between us and I respected that, I knew I would never achieve that because I did not work hard enough but I was slowly closing the gap with every month played. Today nothing is impressive anymore, the cities are still filled with people but they don't matter, it's a single player game mostly nowadays, sure you still group with people but you don't talk with them because you know you will never see them again. I remember doing BGs and recognising players on opposite factions, top players that always had most damage or KDA and the whole group would work together to prioritise them over the rest of the sheep. Today's wow is boring compared to old wow, it's a socially dead game, it's a good game with tons to do and explore but it's just about as good as any other single player rpg there.

Now THIS is the content I like to see.

You just picked yourself up another subscriber buddy, thank you for detailing the pvp scene more then simple 1v1's and rock-paper-scisors anecdotes like nobody else has =)

The battlefield have changed dramatically since vanilla - back then healers were very rare, until players saw the potential and impact of their contribution. Today healers have become normalized, to the point every dps expects you to heal them. But back then you were praised and glorified. players whispered "thx for the heals m8" constantly, put on friends lists and was constantly scouted to join premades, even for PvE. Everyone should try dps, but once you give healing a try, and instantly notice how the win ratio increases - as a dps, your contribution is almost insignificant, you play for yourself, as healer you play for the team!

@zarolikse2372

5 жыл бұрын

Silversurfer there was a historical reason for that in vanilla. In early vanilla you only got honor and honor kills if you did damage to the target, which meant that if you were healing you were not rewarded i PvP. This was eventually changed, but the effect of that design flaw lasted for a long time.

@RW77777777

5 жыл бұрын

no one wants heals getting bailed out by heals from a 2nd person when you're 1v1 losing doesn't equal a win there's more dignity in just walking away or typing /sorry and then looking for another 1v1 opportunity it's totally okay to attack 1v2 with 1 of them being a healer; that's different

@doctordemento965

5 жыл бұрын

@@zarolikse2372 Yep... you were there. We couldn't get a healer to go with us 99 percent of the time due to this alone. Why the hell would you? I distinctly remember shams and pallys being in BGs getting pm'd to heal all the time and my buddy got so irritated by it... he would scream in chat... "IM NOT A HEALER".... lol. They were even PAYING healers to go to premades.

@Regunes

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know man, i always thanks a healer healing me, people that normalise such stuff are miles away of the mentality required to appreciate vanilla.

@foxmulder8955

5 жыл бұрын

Vanilla pvp has no matchmaking system and ranks are obtained through grinding. Dps roamers capable of dueling (mage, lock, rogue) are by far the most efficient classes to farm honor quickly.

You. In the first 30 seconds explained exactly why this video was needed. EVERYONE is focusing on raiding in classic and barely ever spends more than 30 seconds discussing the PvP abilities of the classes/races. Thanks a ton!

absolutely brilliant summary - thank you for TOP quality content like this

Ah, i remember the rock, scissors, paper analogy from the old video ‘How to Rogue.’ Rogue is scissors Priest, mage, warlock, hunter, druid, shaman, and paladin are paper. Warrior is rock, but rock can’t find scissors...

@niktinny6742

5 жыл бұрын

warlocks were mushrooms ;)

@John_Conner222

5 жыл бұрын

Spot on! kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYtkqbeHlq3cmqQ.html

@tmuratdesign

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, the rogue that created it is Mute.

@Krith220

5 жыл бұрын

hunter is definitely not paper to a rogue, more like a direct counter

@andruism7

5 жыл бұрын

@@Krith220 But again, rogues COULD hide from hunters. Especially once vanish removed hunter's mark. I played a hunter in vanilla. Flares and traps held a rogue off, but you never knew if they were being super patient or had given up on you entirely and wandered off to find an easy mark.

Solid video man you summed up every class perfectly

I've already decided I'm going to roll a druid as my main and a lock as my alt, but this is exactly what I thought about the classes for PVP. This video is a must. Thank you!

@markbay9275

4 жыл бұрын

Dont roll a druid

Wonderful content. Thorough, covered all bases, knowledgeable, no frills. Well earned sub!

Really informative and well researched content. Subbed please keep this kind of content coming!

Great video I'm surprised you only have 3k subs. Keep up the good work my dude, you could easily get over 50k

amazing video. you managed to stay very objective which is important because people will get easily defensive about their favourite classes. well done!

Awesome videos, wish it was longer. Especially talking about the different offensive vs defensive roles of paladins vs shamans.

I appreciate the time you spent creating this video. Subscribed for quality content keep doin ya thing.

You're right in that most Vanilla content on youtube right now is PvE focused. This is a breath of fresh air. It's not JUST BG focused, but has a macro-sense to it, in that PvP in vanilla was as much world content as it was BGs. Subbed, and looking forward to more content.

@nathancasey7712

2 жыл бұрын

Bro he said paladins have no real offensive power. Literally just talking about bgs

I'm glad you put Drakedog in the video. He was such a huge influence for many warlock players, especially for a class where many in PvP could hardly 1v1

Great video, to the point and literally no "bs" as the title suggest! Awesome stuff!

This video is still helpful in 2021. Really good video, good context without being too much info.

Man best class choosing guide ive seen so far, not just ''The class is amazing, its so insane blablabla'' just concrete facts, thanks

>Most classes are soft countered by Hunter >And that's all right.

@novat9731

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but hunters require space to thrive. I can dominate Un'goro crater, grabbing Devilsaurs in 1v2 situation with some difficulty. But i can't win a duel for shit, unless it's vs a cloth class and i luck out on crits.

@novat9731

5 жыл бұрын

@rhodes1986 Correction, rogues are quite easy (unless extreme gear). As are druids, you can just chain frost trap them to death. I'm not talking about dueling randoms. I'm talking about dueling skilled players, with their sights on rank 14. Staying out of range is not feasible in a duel setting, for obvious reasons. Deterrence is 11 points deep survival. Which is a great talent, if you're struggling with melee when it matters. But i'm not struggling with melees where it matters. Melees are not an issue in battlegrounds, in un'goro or at world bosses. Freeze trap is ill advised versus skilled rogues and warriors. They will almost certainly deflect it back at you. Most classes will in fact. Snaring without trap is a game of rng. Concussion shot, traps and wing clip can snare with talents, but only has a % chance to do so. And unlike later expansions, where kiting players with concussive shot is feasible for a time. In classic, it lasts for 4 seconds and has a 12 second cool down. Which is fine in open world if cast at 40 yards. But you can't run that afar away in a duel.

@lol101lol101lol10199

5 жыл бұрын

You guys seem to know a lot about fighting rogues as a hunter. But what if you're leveling and you get jumped by a rogue when you are BM specced and have neither Scatter Shot nor pvp-trinket? Is there still a way to win, or should you just sit down and let him kill you?

@RW77777777

5 жыл бұрын

hunter is best 1v1 for duelling noobs outside the capital city in a prepared fight don't listen to these clowns hunters are autolose to mages, locks and shadowpriest

@RubixNinja

5 жыл бұрын

@@RW77777777 Lol... hunters counter mages and shadowpriests xD.... and if the are BM, they can counter locks too.

now that's the content i was desperatly searching for, might check this out again once or twice before the release.

Very informative simple but also in depth video.

Thanks for the overview. I am not a good PvP player. I gank for the Horde side in the war. My goal is always to slow the enemy advancement or slow his alt creation. I’d be near worthless in endgame or Raid; not my role. I play on PvP because it adds a live element that makes the game fun, spontaneous, unexpected. When I meet a truly great opponent, one that can even slay me at five or ten levels below my character, I enjoy the majesty. Some of you are brilliant.

Classes fullfilled different roles with different strengths and weaknesses? I'm already in tears

i'm watching a lot of classic videos, but this has to be one of my favorites

Thank you for this I had forgotten SO MUCH of this!

Rank 12 ele-resto shaman here, agree almost every word in the video, nicely done.

@bjornagain5764

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe you can help me choose between Hunter/Lock/Mage for PvP/World PvP/Battlegrounds

Would be cool if you made a similar guide talking about the two factions. The various pros and cons, and which faction to go for when it comes to PvP.

@Avanorne

5 жыл бұрын

Horde racials are definitely better for pvp. Orc or undead are pretty much always the right choice, their racials are super OP

@throttle1000

5 жыл бұрын

@@Avanorne I know, but Paladins arguably give the Alliance and edge in group PvP still. The Alliance also might have strategical edges in BG's.

@Avanorne

5 жыл бұрын

@@throttle1000 they may for sure, purely on racials the horde have it though. Wotf and hardiness are just too good.

This man said he was gonna make a video describing each class's role in PvP, as well as their strengths and weaknesses, and I'll be damn if he didn't do just that. Perfection pal, thank you. 10/10

Great concise content mate, subbed 👍

BEST FKING CLASSIC PVP VIDEO OUT THERE

TLDR; All classes are: - 1v1 gods - easy to pick up and difficult to master - nuanced

nice video, only thing I could think that would make it better would give a summary of each classes iconic spell with a tooltip definition breakdown for new players that might be watching. Things like Mortal Strike, Vipersting/AimedShot, Mana burn, fear/fearward. These would all be things that might give a new player a basic understanding of how the meta might work and would be a stepping stone for your channel of making more follow up videos for each class.

Good video! This makes me feel good about already deciding to main a paladin.

I think them main thing we all learned here is that room need re painting.

As much as I'd love to revisit classic.. i do not have anywhere near the amount of time required to grind feral gear.

You are one of the only of today's youtubers, who actually still breaths between words. Thank you for this.

Great video, first PvP vid I’ve seen. I feel like you left out a few details where you could have gone deeper into detail but the. You would have had a 25+ minute video. Overall helpful and intuitive. Also the explanation in the beginning viable/optimal was perfect.

The most debatable race choices are: *Orc vs Undead Rogue, Orc vs Undead Warlock,* and *Nelf vs Dwarf Hunter.* I believe Orc is slightly superior to Undead in most situations but I showed Undead because its also viable and more visually aesthetic. As for Alliance Hunter, Dwarf is clearly better against Rogues and arguably better against Warriors, but after consulting with some experienced Hunters I trust, they felt Nelf was the best all-around option due to the overall synergy Shadowmeld has with the Hunter class. Also please note that many classes have multiple viable specs as well as specs designed specifically for premading or dueling. I just showed what I feel are the best specs for *all-around PvP.* A point here and a point there can always be swapped based on your gear & personal playstyle.

@markblaze4909

5 жыл бұрын

human females are best for being naked. l2play. yes pvp naked. it's the only way to even the playing field.

@John_Conner222

5 жыл бұрын

that shadowmeld got me a few times. Experienced NE druids learned to use it as a ghetto vanish. You could pop shadowmeld and switch to cat form and stealth before you showed up visually again (server lag? I dunno). I played Orc as my warlock. Lore wise no other race should have access to warlock magic as it requires felblood to power but I digress.

@IntrigueRacing

5 жыл бұрын

@@John_Conner222The thing about Shadowmeld was you could not use it in combat, so it is nothing like vanish and no more useful than stealth/prowl.

@Polo_Bear

5 жыл бұрын

If you're playing horde and can be orc, be orc. Stuns are huge in vanilla.

@RoXx1811

5 жыл бұрын

​@@Polo_Bear THIS! I've played alliance rogue once. Never again. Orc stun resist is one of the most broken racials in PVP especially against rogues. A 1v1 rogue vs rogue against an Orc will make you wanna smash your keyboard when you see both Cheap Shot and Kidney Shot resist. You are so reliant on your CC as a rogue and it procs fairly often. The Berserking cooldown can also be really good in PVE (only if you know there isn't much damage incoming because it reduces the healing you receive by 50% for 30 secs).

10/10 ofc

@OhhgeeHaptixGaming

5 жыл бұрын

The little Payo ofc

@rcimhoftollz

5 жыл бұрын

Payo is very nuanced

Great video. Very informative but to the point. Thanks for this!

This is a fantastic guide, the one thing I wish Ohgee mentioned explicitly would be how much more difficult it is to heal on shamans and paladins, during this era of wow, in comparison to Priests and to a lesser extent druids. With eng. stuff it’s a tough time to cast and it’s all they can do

@filipposroidis

9 ай бұрын

Poop 000ppp I'll 0p😅😮002😮 poop😅0😅😊😊😅😊 14:33

Druid + warrior duo PVP is insane

@user-up3dd1vw6b

4 жыл бұрын

Not in vanilla, druid cant dispell warrior if cced

You got the message guys, hunter is the way to go of course ! No worries for the help Ohhgee

@ryno8787

5 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah! Traque upload more videos soon :D

@ryno8787

5 жыл бұрын

Or streaming would work too xD

@Traque

5 жыл бұрын

Working on it ;)

It's ages ago since i last saw Pat pvp! i loved him back then! :D

This guide is the best, i´ve seen. Thank you for this!

Optimal or not im still going enhancement. Nice video!

@superspork3975

5 жыл бұрын

Cant spell Windfury without win!

The stigma for meme specs will never go away, since they're mostly observed or reported on by people who have never played them extensively. There are also those who think meme specs are better than they really are due to overgearing on fun servers or broken private server mechanics. Enhance is a really good spec to learn your totems, not because you're autoattacking for most of your damage, but because your totems are what keep you on your target. Grounding/tremor are the two that instantly come to mind. When you're ranged and can use thicc lightning and frost shocks to keep a distance, you're only ever using totems when they're needed. A perfect example would be tremor totem. If a priest is running at you as ele, you know exactly what's going to happen. If you run up on a priest as enh you have to make sure your tremor is down at all times. I don't have many hours put into shaman compared to other classes, but this is just my observation from playing on Retro and LH for the past few years. As for ret paladin. There's a lot of different ways you can go about DPS paladin specs, some of which literally require 0 ret talents. When you play "ret" you tend to still play like a paladin, abuse LoS, spam cleanse/heals between swing timers, abuse mana efficiency, abuse rogues, etc. A good 50% of your damage as a memeadin is assisting other players where they fall short and adding what ever damage build you're using on top of that ( Reckoning/ShockCommand/ProccWhore ). Examples would be like freedoming a warrior, spamming cleanse on yourself, and tag teaming a mage. This is definitely the simplest trick in the book, but it's just an example. Though what Ohhgee said about experienced players abusing your shortcomings is ENTIRELY TRUE. At times you will wait a whole fight hoping that someone uses something wrong, i.e. blink, and be able to switch it around and use it to your advantage. Without reckoning, consumes, or full gadgets (engi, imp doom, etc) you will not survive most 1v1s against experienced players UNLESS you know their spec/class better than they know paladin. The only way you can really be the most effective ret/enh on your server is to know all the other classes better than everyone else, or at least at the same knowledge cap as everyone else. If you know how to play your opponent's class, better or not, you'll know when and where you need to use something. TLDR: if you play retri like you play a warrior you will think its a lot worst than it really is. sacrifice also isn't a cooldown, you big mage noob.

Very good guide, no BS as stated. Need more people like you, less people lazily posting a rambling stream vid paying lip service to donors half the vid. A+++ Earned one of my few subs

Ah man, loved your first Classic stream last night. Pretty sure I'm your first sub ever while broadcasting Classic gameplay, lol ohhh yes /flex. Plus I'm from Mass, so I gotta show some love to you.

You said at the end that you'd rather have a paladin in WSG and shamans in AB, but isn't it completely opposite? Most people I talk to say that horde has advantage in WSG because of shaman dispells on FC, but ally wins in BS fights because of un'ccable paladins?

As always, the only reliable pvp classic channel there is. its like listening to a spot commentator who played the sport vs a fan.

Bloody cracking video my friend.

I still have fond memories of acquiring Lieutenant General whilst joining premades with a friend who (finally) achieved High Warlord after countless weeks and months of no-sleep and constant battlegrounds - yes, even the AV's and WSG's that went on for days on end. He did so as a 2H Enhance Shaman, which basically involved windfury procs blowing everything up so long as you gave him the opportunity to do so (which I did as a Rogue, CC'ing prime targets or preventing kiting so he could get in there and wreck faces). Good times. I can't see myself reliving yester-year again, but if I did I'd definitely go either Priest or Shaman due to being able to flit between DPS or Healing, rather than a class like Rogue (my original main) which can only ever do one role, even if they were great for PvP'ing.

Hunting rogues with the hunter was always fun. When I still played. Like 15 years ago or so :-)

cheers for letting us know you couldnt play on wednesday

Great content!

Great insight. Subbed.

I'm curious about Ele Sham gearing. From what I've picked up over the years, they don't really start to get their "oomf" until AQ. What's your take on this?

@maeris4965

5 жыл бұрын

discord.gg/StmYsu Check the resources channel.

@Realzezro

5 жыл бұрын

BWL geared ele shamans can do some serious ass burst ^^

@someone-ji2zb

5 жыл бұрын

The hard part about ele, is actually getting the gear to begin with. Isn't like they do any real damage in raid, so taking more than 1 is going to be something only casual guilds do, and casual guilds wont be doing BWL or beyond.

@maeris4965

5 жыл бұрын

@@someone-ji2zb Just roll resto for the time being and respec.

@someone-ji2zb

5 жыл бұрын

@@maeris4965 If your guild allows you to switch, sure. If you roll resto and gear up as a healer, then you may or may not be allowed to keep attending raids over other DPS players if a healer now needs to be filled. Also, the gear you need as ele is very similar to that of other casters, and I guarantee you that no guild in their right mind is going to let a healer win a DPS item that their other casters still need.

Finally a class guide where the creator actually knows what he's talking about. More of these please!

@alistairbolden6340

Жыл бұрын

He was wrong about quite a lot in this video.

+1 Respect. Great Video man

this guide is amaaaazing. thanks man.

Hunters were by far the best class for PVP. I was endgame tier 3/field marshal mixed gear. Had Larvae of the great worm from Ouro as a Dwarf this made sense for the 1% crit. Also had Ashjre'thul as well if i got bored. I had 6K HP and was almost a tank in PVP. Rogues blowing all cooldowns or Warriors with extreme gear were the only problems 1v1. In a world PVP or battleground environment I demolished everything. Even one shotting some badly geared clothies. PVE DPS was good up until BWL but hunters sustained DPS doesn't scale as well as mages and rogues. By Naxx you were struggling to keep up with most classes.

@dariollanos

5 жыл бұрын

hey, so only rogues and warriors were a problem? i thought spriest and locks were the hardest to beat as a hunter, and vs mage would 50/50.

@Brickhazard

5 жыл бұрын

@@dariollanos All situational duel rubbish. Most classes need to blow all cooldowns to even stand a chance. Hunters basically have no cooldowns so can steamroll most of the time. In world PVP and battlegrounds it is no contest as you always have the advantage of range. I also very rarely met anyone with as good a gear as me either :P

That warrior 1shots people but he is clicking enrage and battleshout .. so good

@OhhgeeHaptixGaming

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah part of why I showed those clips was to illustrate how things that were considered OP in 2006 were often only viable because 99% of players were backpedaling and had no idea how to use their abilities properly. For example, many people remember Enhance Shamans being crazy OP in Vanilla, but if you play an Enhancement Shaman in 2019 you’ll just get kited to death by anyone with a brain

@someone-ji2zb

5 жыл бұрын

@@OhhgeeHaptixGaming Yea, now imagine warriors who don't click, keyboard turn and are fast to act with good internet. OH boy...

@daebibs

5 жыл бұрын

@@someone-ji2zb well nothing? if intercept is jumpable and you gon get kited for days like an enha shammy with no spell absorb/heal/cleanse ghostwolf ranged slow lol

Can you make a video going over gear sets for these specs? Extreme detail wouldn't be required, just a quick monologue for each like this video would be amazing. I think a video on trinkets would also be really cool.

This is like watching one of those 90's school educational shows back in Elementary. I love it. lol

Everytime I tried Enhancement on my t2.5 Shaman just for one weekend I'd get pissed at the whole unreliable process of waiting for those windfury procs and would spec back into Elemental in just a few games of WSG. And yes, would have to get back into Resto in just two days for raiding.

@alpacaherder5680

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly enchant shaman is one of thoose "meme lord" class. They are like warriors but much worse as they lack both the tankiness and the defensive cooldowns AND the gapclose to reach their enemies. When they do, they don't have a reliable resource to use they just wait for RNG to do the job. Pretty weak imo.

Rock/paper/scissors Lord here come the roguecraft flashbacks

@BboyIcy55

5 жыл бұрын

Warlocks are mushrooms

@Mammel248

4 жыл бұрын

@@BboyIcy55 Mushrooms get everybody stoned.

@Llethander

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mammel248 Whoa, brooo. I'm like... sooooooul stoned right now.

finally some classic pvp related content on youtube altho i'm a BC player... great video! :)

I was also rank 14. Great video!

Played warrior for 5000+ Houers ... going stay warrior :)

@futuresteve9781

5 жыл бұрын

You a real one.

Rock - paper - scissors? Warriors are rock, Rogues are scissors, all the other classes are paper. Warlocks are mushrooms. There's a twist though. Rock crushes paper and would crush scissors, but scissors are invisible so both live happily ever after.

@Ohhgee Haptix Gaming yo! What would you recommend to those who will start playing solo but want to have a good spot on premades? Can you make a "ranking" of specs for premades?

Great video dude !

HoTW + NS for druid is the way I would do it.

Ahhh back when Different classes brought different things to the table. Not saying the current wow doesn't have the same thing. Its just a far less impact; Blizzard made it a point to homogenize common abilities so certain classes wouldn't feel left out. I enjoyed classes where you actually had to put some effort into understanding them in order to be useful.

@SgtTeddybear66

4 жыл бұрын

Homogenized? No way, I like the ladies...

this was a dope video. subbed

Love the videos Og

Id argue 21/30/0 is better as a hunter, but oh well, guess it depends on offense vs defence. Edit: I guess 21/27/3 would be more optimal for strictly pvp.

First I want to say this video is very on point, with very key data. If you are not sure what to roll for PvP, for general PvP, go with Hunter; easier to play, Number one rule, keep your max distance. This is how you can fairly easily beat melee classes, MAX is the secret, use your CC to create distance, as you won't be able to attack while moving, so wait until you are at max distance before attacking. Melee has to constantly try to reach you. If you don't constantly max distance they will reach you and melee can do massive damage. You should keep, at least 30 yards away from casters to avoid their CC. You can later play other classes, as you see fit, For example those that give you trouble. To find their weaknesses. You can also go with specialist, like warriors for group BG pvp. Rogue for dueling, druid for WPVP, priest for group healer etc...

@mycatsleeps

5 жыл бұрын

+ a swing timer add-on really helps to get those blank shot while kiting. It takes a bit of practice to do strafing properly tho.

@JJ-no8fk

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on man haha I guess I do mostly world pvp and bg. Resto Druid it is 🤓 r shaman looks fun but I don’t wanna relearn a new class and manage totems. Priest look too soft and not as mobile of a healer as Druid

@savagecarnivore4699

4 жыл бұрын

Jkoo Gkoo Druid is by far the worst class in classic, have fun!

@JJ-no8fk

4 жыл бұрын

Savage Carnivore bleh seriously my worry. Why wouldn’t they buff them. Guess I’m going priest or shaman

You are the man,very good no bullshit video.

Damn ! Such a pro video ! I would like to ask one thing : I am hesitating on my choice of healer. I mainly aim to go pvp premade when classic goes off, but never tested this kind of pvp. The priest being a CC magnet can be kinda bad for raw healing ? Or are my teammates supposed to protect me effectively ? This is the reason I consider playing drood, but I want to be really optimal on every side ^^ I am also afraid to be bored by the paladin in the end (already tried, didn't find any interest) Thank you for reading :) (surry four bad inglish)

Everyday Im more confused about what to role :(

@ryvrdrgn16

5 жыл бұрын

He made it pretty clear. If you're confused, go Hunter. :>

@jimmiejenkins5715

4 жыл бұрын

what did you finally pick?

Every class is good but every class is hard to master at the same time.

Great job man!

Great video dude

Watched this 4 times, still don’t know what to play😭

@johncoffee5837

4 жыл бұрын

Then, druid. ;)

@_____J______

4 жыл бұрын

@@johncoffee5837 Rock, Paper, Scissors...Grim Reaper

@TheUnone

3 жыл бұрын

Watch more

You should talk about good combinations for friends grouping together. I was thinking of rolling Priest or Paladin and have a friend play a Warlock or Warrior.

@schwann145

5 жыл бұрын

Priest/Warrior combo is terrifyingly effective. Easiest path to Grand Martial/High Warlord imo.

@someone-ji2zb

5 жыл бұрын

@@schwann145 Agreed. There is a reason almost every grand martial was a warrior. The amount of kills you rack up is a crime... especially on a PvP server... so few people can actually deal with you out in the wild.

I'm interested in mostly world PvP (bgs aren't even up at launch in classic if I'm correct), and I'd like a class that's useful even with the gear I'd get from leveling and doing dungeons. Should I play a rogue? Like it should be decent since you can stunlock people for 10 seconds in 1v1s, blind, sap, stunlock again... reset cds and repeat if needed. And with evis base damage you should be able to kill even geared dps when you get the opener? And should I run swords or daggers? Is backstab worth it even without a ton of crit? Or should I just go for swords and hemo before like full MC gear? Also, I know there will be loads of rogues so it will be kinda rough to gear up. Especially since I may not be playing classic full time after hitting 60, but as a side activity when all of the retail weekly stuff is done, or when my arena partners aren't online. Do you think I could get into MC raids as a pug by abusing the fact that my girlfriend will be playing a priest, and trying to get my scuffed undead ass into any raid she can? Does anyone know if the fabled vanilla priest is indeed as powerful as in the tales I have been told? Are they actually that desired, they can get groups to take int a badly geared pvp rogue just to get the priest? Could they even bargain to secure something like... tier pieces or core hound teeth for their mate..? :)

hey og, you mentioned SM ruin a little in the warlock section, but can you give a little more detail on how it stacks up against nightfall/conflag? Is it comparable or does it fall pretty short? I'm asking cause I heard the conflag build is kinda trash when it comes to raiding and I wouldn't want to be changing between specs all the time for bgs

the real king of 1v1 is soul link warlock... once u get geared with soul link warlock then ur beating anything if u know how to play...

Subbed dope video guy! but evryone knows the real Pvp spec is melee mage

Great vid!

Hi, I used to play feral druid and heal druid in vanilla. I had a lot of fun but yeah, was hard until geared. I'm hesitating to get back to it or try something new. Any advice? Cheers!