A short anecdote: When the Forester came out with it's trick new 4WD system, Subaru invited a bunch of competitors out for a trial against the Forester. They all did poorly against the Forester except the Grand Vitara. Suzuki and their demo Vitara were not invited back for subsequent events.

As always yet another great video with fantastic information for second hand cars. Well done guys.

Always informative thank you RD

Have owned a 2013 forester which we bought second hand. It’s a great car. Nicer to drive IMO than my parents cx5. We’ve towed big trailers across the state with no issue. The visibility is great with those big windows and its very composed for an SUV. 175000kms and no major issues for us.

I bought a 2010 x rental 2year old Rav 4 with 100,000km on it, 13 years later its now 220,000km , the only repairs front brake rotors and a two batteries and a yearly service. I am very happy.

Great as always

Great video guys, you convinced me to consider a wagon over a SUV

Great video as always guys! I own a 2011 Subaru Forester. It's an S3 (SH) 2.0L Turbo Diesel. It's just clicked over 200k on the clock and is in very good condition... I live in Nowra, and more than happy if you want to do a review on it.

Yes please review the 4th Gen Forester!

I wondered if you would mention the Grand Vitara. I always look for the underrated cars when I buy secondhand as they provide 90% of the quality at two-thirds of the price.

I own a 11/15 build Tucson Highlander 2.0L diesel AWD. I bought it second hand in 2020 with 120,000 k’s with full service record for $28,000. It has just hit 170,000 k’s and I absolutely love it. Admittedly, it’s had a few electrical gremlins that can be combatted quite easily and cheaply. But I’m not planning on getting rid of it until it takes its last tank. 110% recommend it for people looking for a touch of luxury and can afford upwards of $20,000. with heated and cooled front seats, full pano sunroof, electric centre locking diff, and heaps of flexibility in regards to modifications to make them more capable in the soft roading activities to rival a modified Forester for better off-road capabilities.

@ashishlahoti7052

3 ай бұрын

How much is fuel average on this one?

Trying to watch a video on how to make garlic prawns and this notification pop up. Not Interested in SUV but here for the support and KZread holy algorithm.

4th gen forester xt great clearance, awd, fast, reliable all around great car no doubts.

excellent video, I'm still confused between the CRV & RAV4 2018... which I should go for

Enjoying your reviews. How about doing a review of the Kia Soul. Hopefully Kia Australia may bring them back to Australia. I would love to get behind if the 1.6litre turbo.

Great list, agree on them, but always adamant of getting anything with a CVT. For the large SUVs, it will be the Prado, Kluger, Pajero, CX-9, perhaps the Izuzu MU-X?

Never been a fan of the wagon killers, but if I had to choose, the Lexus just for comfort. SUVs just handle like bricks.

@marlonbaird6070

Жыл бұрын

I agree or the CRV,but I am still a wagon guy

Love my Forester!

I had a Grand Vitara and had so many problems with the DPF

Holden Trailblazer is a overlooked gem

Try to get the facelifted 1st generation CX-5 KE2 if possible. It has revised NVH over the KE and should be quieter insider.

I have a very clean top spec 2013 Suzuki GV I picked up in 2018 with 53K km on it and really like it. It feels very solid and well put together with no squeaks or rattles or perceptible body flex and all the controls feel nice quality. It is made in Japan. The AWD system is excellent with low range, center locking diff and good traction control. It has near 50/50 weight balance and is a true AWD not front bias like most SUV. I like the dual physical key and keyless entry and start. I think its the perfect size unless you have a large family. It is surprising how much stuff you can pack in it. Mine came with the Garmin SatNav head unit and it has a socket for a rear view camera so it was easy to add one. Just watch out for the early 2.4 petrol models because they had a bad run of castings according to Suzuki and both the blocks and heads are prone to cracking. This was corrected with a revised block which is visibly different but check which VINS are affected before buying. According to my research, the 2.4 petrol 4 spd transmission is a AISIN (Toyota) unit which should be pretty bullet proof and the GM sourced 3.2 V6 is mated to a 5spd AISIN (Toyota) transmission which is the same unit used in the Toyota Highlander of that era. The engine is mounted inline not transverse so it's easy to work on too. Things I don't like... It likes to up shift into a high gear which drops the revs low for better fuel economy but in town this means it has to drop 2 gears to get a move on so I keep in 3rd gear mode until above 60kmh and then put it in drive. The extra gear of the 3.2 V6 would be nice. The throttle is very touchy which makes pulling away or driving offroad smoothly more challenging than it needs to be. The rear tailgate auto locks on close (or not) depending on its mood and I got locked out once because my key was in my backpack which I had just put in the back and closed the tailgate. The plastic door handles feel like they would break off if you gave a good tug free up a frozen door. Low beams have a sharp cut-off line and everything above that is pitch black so it makes seeing pedestrians at night more difficult.

I'm trying to sell my son's RAV4 V6 (drag car😏feels like it) at the moment .....man they fly. Got a 2012 Outlander VRX ...beautiful car.

If you buy a pre-2018 CX-5 diesel. make sure you have roadside assist, you'll need it as the engines fail not if, but when.

On the CR-V, you want either the 2012 or 2013, because of the reliable 5 speed automatic transmission. 2014 and newer were CVTs (on the petrol engines), and they had issues.

@satya.anandakrishnan

Жыл бұрын

Not in Australia. The RM (2012-2014) and RM Series 2 (2015-2017) both had the 5 speed

@traceycrawford9938

Жыл бұрын

Important information, thank you 🙏🏼

@damilolaakanni

7 ай бұрын

​@satya.anandakrishnan I guess the CVTs in newer Hondas is a North American thing only then.

I agree with most of the recommendations but just be aware of the Lexus ct200 and 3rd Gen Prius can have issues with head gasket failures.

I love it

I'd like to see the large SUV list: I assume we'll see the Toyota Highlander (Klugger), Kia Sorrento, Hyundai Santa Fe.

GT Twin turbo Diesels cx5 felt fast. But known for dpf issues.

We've had 3 foresters over 2005, 2013 and xr 2017. all were new. The 2013 2.5i burnt through oil every 5000kms. It wouldn't make the service so we ended up getting rid of it and getting an Xt which has been awesome. the 2005 model was terrible on milage...300kms if you're lucky on one tank. No other major problems other than the xt needed a new LED headlight which costs approx 2500 new. Aftermarket is non existent for the xt and it was near impossible to find a secondhand one with adaptive lights, and when u did find one at the wreckers, it costs 1500 and it was usually interstate.

The X-Trail CVT is sealed for life* *About 70,000 km if my experience is anything to go by.

@anakinskywalker4113

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as sealed for life. I am a mechanic & I can tell you that is the biggest load BS out there. I just drop the transmission pan & change the filter. There is a fill plug on the side of the transmission you just need to know where to look.

@ProductofNZ

Жыл бұрын

Suzuki are the same...except we were replacing boxes that were blowing up at 60,000km. They had to extend the driveline warranty on Suzuki Sports with the CVT cause they were failing. Even the boss's wife's car had to get it replaced.... CVTs are bad news in general.

@TheKnobCalledTone.

Жыл бұрын

@@anakinskywalker4113 I guess "sealed for life" means sealed for the life the transmission, which isn't very long if the fluid doesn't get changed. I guess the extra few cents it'd cost to put a plug in the bottom of the transmission pan is just too much for car companies to spend.

@anakinskywalker4113

Жыл бұрын

@@ProductofNZ that’s absurd having to replace gearboxes at 60,000kms.

@ruperthollandjkjk4387

Жыл бұрын

Anakin, I understand that they can be serviced. Unfortunately my sarcasm didn’t come across as I thought. The CVT in question turned itself into a million tiny pieces at the grand total of 68k km. AKA the life of the gearbox. TBF Nissan did replace it out of warranty, although it was at the dealership for 5 months.

My heart is in the ix35 but will shop around all by grace

What’s the good oil on the 2.2 Honda CRV diesel? im looking at one for a reliable family hauler

Hello! whats better Mitsushi outlander or Mazda Cx-5 ?

Noice overall View...But still waiting on the VW MK6R Golf

Hyundai/Kia Diesels are the go to for the Tucson/Sportage models so I'm not sure why you're recommending them? Even in the rare occurence, they're less problematic than the mentioned RAV4 Diesel, Forester Diesel, and Grand Vitara 1.9L Diesel, and 2.4L Petrol's (where their blocks can crack) which surprisingly didn't get a mention.

Surprised the Mitsi Outlander wasn't in that list 🤔

Awesome video as always. I would go for a Toyota RAV 4 or Honda CRV any day. For $20,000 reliability is everything at this point. bugger worrying about it being fun to drive etc. Also stay away from anything with any aftermarket bits. As a mechanic in Melbourne anything that has aftermarket bits fitted just has more stuff to go wrong. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to remove aftermarket bits off cars because they were fitted incorrectly making the car run worse than when it was stock. As for aftermarket radios they tend to drain the battery like there is no tomorrow. At this price point it is meant to be a reliable & safe A to B machine. I couldn’t care about a fancy stereo. Can you answer one question why do you talk about aftermarket stuff so much? It just tends to create major headaches for me as mechanic down in Melbourne when I have to fix other peoples stuff ups.

I'd pick our 2019 Escape over a boring Xtrail any day of the week. Or the Forester which is slow and has silly service intervals.

you still missed the BIG issue with the 2.4 petrol Grand Vitara engine up to 2010...they have massive block casting flaws and they terminate themselves by cracking their blocks when overheated. Then when you decide to replace the engine expect to shell out $5k for a wrecker low km engine just to get the engine itself. Suzuki revised the engine block design after 2010 (apparently). Yes, this is a known issue, but is not known commonly....been there with my son's car. Other than the engine they are solid cars.

@stevenliew9723

10 ай бұрын

I am a real life user with the described issue of the Grand Vitara. From my research, all GV with the 2.4L engine circa 2009 have the casting issue. The question is when will it start cracking. Again my research indicates 100,000 km onwards. There is even a flow chart on course of action for dealers when customers turn up with the problem. So it is a known problem to the manufacturer but there was no recall - it would have been a very expensive exercise, I’d imagine. Mine was almost 9 yo when it happened causing the engine oil to leak and mix with the coolant resulting in a sludge like consistency. The engine will overheat rendering the vehicle unoperable. It will cost almost $10k to put in a new top block if you can find one from Japan. Putting in a used engine from the scrap yard doesn’t solve the problem as it will soon fail unless the top block was previously replaced. To be fair to the manufacturer, they provided a new block even though the vehicle was 9 yo ~way after the warranty period. Still with labour, consumables and a radiator, it costs me $5k. Even after replacing the top block the vehicle still experienced overheating.

@deancooper5513

10 ай бұрын

@@stevenliew9723 thanks for sharing your experiences; my son went thru a very similar scenario where we got a much newer model engine fitted cause once the old block cracked and overheated the original engine was stuffed. Very expensive fix to say the least.

Hi would say CRV would be best especially if you want to keep it for a long time

Just sold my 08 Navara D22 and bought a CX5 2012- A) you could used it for a bit of show and tell if ya like and B) ill let ya know what I think of it, in a weeks time XD

Thanks Adam - I presume the dismal ANCAP safety ratings for the pre-2005 models you reported on in ‘cars that will kill you’ a few mths before was addressed in the post 2005 Vitara models? - I owned many pre-2013 Subarus including a GC8 WRX but with the Forester’s cracking windscreen (too thin), wheel studs known to break off when changing wheels and the flawed CVT it’s no longer a good brand - the bearing offset piston rod design for the ‘08-‘12 engines has caused many engine failures - from ‘08 Subaru removed the analogue coolant temp gauge which has no doubt led to many overheating engines but they’re apparently reintroducing it for future models.

CX5? Careful with the diesel. It must be 2018 or later. 80% of our diesels younger than this were full engine replacements under warranty. We had 40 of them.. I think there was a class action law suit in OZ?

@MrBenHaynes

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if Mazda had release the 2.2L diesel engined vehicles in America? It would have bankrupted the company!

My 2016 Rav4 will look even better when the polished ECB bullbar is fitted. Nudge bars are futile against skippies. The CX-5 is interesting. I avoided it purely because of that ghastly grille.

Yay for cx-5!

@MrBenHaynes

Жыл бұрын

Only if petrol powered.....

Is there? or do you have? a definitive list of 4WD SUV vs AWD SUV? My driving has much wet grass, no rock hopping involved. Thus AWD is useless. I would like to replace a 1996 Prado that has just clocked over 0.5M Kms. Thank you.

Thought this list was going to be the large forbies and have some of the ones you guys mentioned at the smaller end of it. The ones I'd nominate for next week's list (all being something a bit different from the usual recommendations) are; Suzuki XL-7 Mitsubishi Challenger Honda MDX Lexus LX470 Toyota 4runner Porsche Cayenne Ford Explorer/Maverick Hyundai Terracan Infiniti FX37 Great video guys and the way your going at the moment it won't be long til you hit 200k subscribers so keep up the good work 👍.

@damilolaakanni

Жыл бұрын

Depending on the market and generation, the 4runner was either called something else (Hilux Surf) or wasn't just available. In markets where the 4runner isn't available, consider the Fortuner or Land Cruiser Prado as an alternative. However the Fortuner is based on the Hilux, so it will most likely drive like one.

@TwistedDonners

Жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni seen the 4runner and Hilux surf over here hence why I didn't put it together since thats how I saw it but it's good too know :)

@davidlewis2464

Жыл бұрын

Most of those aren’t sold in Australia any more sadly or they are so rare it’s pointless finding one 😢

What about cx 5

Did you have the Nissan Murano (2015 +) in Australia?

@thatsshowbiz6438

Жыл бұрын

Yes but don't often see them on the road

Any smart car dealers should partner up with re driven and provide those cars.

In you're buying the Forester, get the XT version!

@mtbguidebook1132

Жыл бұрын

And pay for premium petrol, less off-road ability? Depends what you use it for.

I like your list , but where do you find these vehicles under 20 k ? !

@ReDriven

Жыл бұрын

Check wholesalers, auctions and private sales and especially in regional areas. Also the prices advertised on certain very popular classifieds sites very rarely indicate what the cars actually sell for. - AK

Ford Kuga?

We've had a cx5 since new. 150k miles later it's literally never had anything needed besides a couple batteries across almost 10 years. My 6 has been even more reliable than that across 14 years and 155k miles

Even at a lower trim spec I feel like a Manual 4th gen Forester is a real nugget of a used car. Might even get to luck out and find one cheaper since manuals are in such low demand for this kind of vehicle. Of course, the CVT isn't the _only_ problem modern Subarus have, but still.

I dont think the stereo on the RX350 is easy to upgrade

The Lexus, yeesssss.

I would totally buy a CX5 but I've noticed their headlights always shine directly into oncoming drivers, I'd just feel guilty.

@brainsmatterpodcast

Жыл бұрын

That’s a huge problem, I wonder how many accidents they cause my dazzling oncoming drivers. Wagons >> SUVs

@kornkernel2232

Жыл бұрын

SUV really needs to rework the headlight mount designs. but sadly that will be on newer ones. There is heaps older and still working well SUVs on the road and most of their headlights are hazards.

@gabes-t

Жыл бұрын

Never had an issue with my LEDs shining on others. The LEDs on newer Hilux and Rangers on the other hand blinds me all the time even when driving my CX-5 which already has a higher sitting position than regular cars.

Next Video; Toyota Fortuner please

I went for the Hyundai tucson over the Mazda, as l wanted a diesel. I stretched my budget a bit more and got one just on 4.5 years old and 60,000k's If well maintained and serviced is the key ( and a bit of luck ) they will all do the job so it comes down to personal choice, so good luck

Where does the Klugger fit in to all of these? Isnt that considered a SUV

Honourable mention for the next video: Ford Territory

I guess the Mitsubishi Outlander is so boring, Adam completely forgot it exists. That's why it didn't make either the "recommended" list or the "do not buy" list.

@spooderman3425

Жыл бұрын

Love mine, but its' definitely boring. Hope it stays that way honestly.

@TheKnobCalledTone.

Жыл бұрын

@@spooderman3425 I'd sooner have an Outlander than a Forester or X-Trail.

It might be great for reliability and safety but I find the Mazda CX5 a bit… meh (but then I’ve always loved older cars). I’d rather the character of the older T31 X-Trail 🤷🏻‍♀️

As the owner of a 2012 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring, I would be hesitant to recommend them to anyone. I have owned mine for approximately 3.5 years (having completed 90,000km) and in that time have had a host of items replaced (including the engine), granted mine is a diesel. It is also expensive to fix issues when they do come up. But if take all that out of the equation, it is a beautiful car to drive, esp long distances, has good torque off the line and is very efficient both around town and on the highway.

What about Volvo xc60

@colossus_g

Жыл бұрын

A class above anything mentioned. Maybe 2 classes above.

Of all these sub $20k vids, there is not a single one on carsales at sub $20k price...😮 Good vids though!

@ReDriven

Жыл бұрын

Hot tip, rarely do cars sell at the advertised price on any classifieds site especially carsales. Plus, the cars advertised on classifieds sites generally ask a premium as sellers know they’ll be haggled to a lower selling figure. To find the bargains out there, look into regional wholesalers, auctions and private sales. A friend just picked up a Focus RS for $10k under the advertised price thanks to it being located regionally and few capital city buyers were willing to drive out to it. All of the cars I mentioned we’ve seen swap hands for $20k and under. - AK

@YoureNowOnTV

Жыл бұрын

@@ReDriven awesome video and this response was the icing on the cake. Thank you for informing and for potentially saving us dollars in the future.

I think the choice is between a Lexus and a...Lexus. If I had to drive an SUV (gasp, horror) I would want quality and that is Lexus.

Youre welcome to road test my 2015 KE2 GT CX5

Wonder if the Ford Territory will feature next week ?

@lobsterwhisperer7932

Жыл бұрын

Great SUV, in-line barra six with RWD and cheap.

@perpetualgrin5804

Жыл бұрын

@@lobsterwhisperer7932 Redriven aim for a global audience , may not make the list.

No idea they had made these vehicles lol I’m an American

What about.. the Haval? 😅

The most reliable suv ever made (maybe remove the s because there is no sport) is the gen 1 2ltr naturally aspirated forester. Good car, if you can handle the outdated looks and extremely gutless motor.

@rexthesheep

Жыл бұрын

The ol' gen 1 Foz may not be sporty at that spec but it's definitely a special utility vehicle for sure. And where i live, an extremely popular tuner car for younger peeps.

I got to be the first one on this…😁

all these have cheap part time 4wd and are horrible understeering to drive, apart from Subaru that comes with its own gasket issues

We

Fun fact The RAV-4 got lesbian car of the year but only in black.

No Equinox....😢😢😢, under rated car, does everything you ask of it, well priced, well speced, and huge power if you get the 2L turbo.

@TheKnobCalledTone.

Жыл бұрын

Recommending an unreliable heap of shit from a brand that no longer exists? Great idea.

@AndrewM-om2zr

9 ай бұрын

@@TheKnobCalledTone. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Equinox will run rings around most of the dross mentioned here and is rock solid reliable.

It is sad that this is what car culture has become because all those cars are actually awful. But enjoyed the video as always :)

Honda is ugly but Mazda looks cool? Totally opposite in my opinion. Whenever I drive my Renault Koleos, based off the T31 X-Trail, it makes me eager to get back into my far more comfortable sedan ASAP

These are all compact SUV and not medium

Its hard to get excited about SUVs. They're useful like a dishwasher but rather boring. Somewhat like most of their owners.

@traceycrawford9938

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@CathodeRayNipplez

3 ай бұрын

@@KZread_Zukz That's complete BS. 🙄

Oh and I still hate SUV's

Do I get paid if I let you make a video of my car?

@ReDriven

Жыл бұрын

If you include being able to say to your friends “that’s my car on ReDriven”, then yes!

@rockstar_tmt

Жыл бұрын

@@ReDriven well sounds good to me

Bottom line, buy a Japanese car. Been like that, and will continue to be.👍

@damilolaakanni

Жыл бұрын

*Toyota/Lexus. Other Japanese brands tend to have more (and more often, worse) issues than those two.

@mrgurulittle7000

Жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni Yeah, but Japanese car brands seem to be still much better than anything else on the market.

@kornkernel2232

Жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni True, but then many at least tends to be bit easier and/or more affordable to fix and find parts. Most Japanese cars will still fare better unless really been abused.

@satya.anandakrishnan

Жыл бұрын

@@damilolaakanni Honda's from the mid 2010s and older are just as good and often cheaper because everybody focuses on Toyotas

The Mitsubishi Challenger would make for an interesting review as far as the larger SUVs are concerned.