Best Martial Arts Ranked By PRO MMA Fighter

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I asked Jeff Chan, professional MMA fighter to rank martial arts based on how good they are for street fighting and then for MMA.
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00:00 How the ranking works
00:10 Aikido
00:55 Brazlian Jiu Jitsu
02:59 Copoeira
04:11 Boxing
06:30 Ninjutsu
06:45 Wrestling
07:25 Japanese Jiu Jitsu
08:18 Jeet Kune Do
08:57 Judo
10:35 Filipino Martial Arts
11:00 Why Karate Is Amazing
12:42 Kickboxing
14:02 Krav Maga
14:28 Lethwei
14:51 Systema
15:36 Taekwondo
16:09 Muay Thai
16:47 Tai Chi
17:00 Wing Chun
17:45 Sambo
18:28 Ranking Pure Martial Arts
19:50 Single Martial Art per Tier for MMA
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My name is Rokas. I'm a Lithuanian guy who trained Aikido for 14 years, 7 of them running a professional Aikido Dojo until eventually I realized that Aikido does not live up to what it promises.
Lead by this realization I decided to make a daring step to close my Aikido Dojo and move to Portland, Oregon for six months to start training MMA at the famous Straight Blast Gym Headquarters under head coach Matt Thornton.
After six months intensive training I had my first amateur MMA fight after which I moved back to Lithuania. During all of this time I am documenting my experience through my KZread channel called "Martial Arts Journey".
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  • @MartialArtsJourney
    @MartialArtsJourney Жыл бұрын

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  • @andersonalves1254

    @andersonalves1254

    Жыл бұрын

    Sanda?

  • @user-pd9ju5dk5s

    @user-pd9ju5dk5s

    Жыл бұрын

    Lethwei is pronounces leh-way

  • @JP-gg8nv

    @JP-gg8nv

    Жыл бұрын

    Such a cool video! From someone who has capacity to analyze of human conditioning (How much damage trained human body can actually absorb and still keep going) giving out the opinion... Awesome! Chan is a beast! He should be recongnized of his mentallity and analazyation. Chan would make an awesome fighting coach in his old years!

  • @user-pd9ju5dk5s

    @user-pd9ju5dk5s

    Жыл бұрын

    @sultan whomever super to fun

  • @mariomirquis9393

    @mariomirquis9393

    Жыл бұрын

    For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life John 3 16.

  • @dickbison
    @dickbison Жыл бұрын

    As an ex security guard with 10+ years of experience I have to say he's spot on when he says pretty much all martial arts are good enough for the street. People have no idea what they're doing. I would go as far as saying that playing something like tennis regularly will make you the winner in most street fights just because you'll be quicker on your feet, more aware of your body balance and have quicker reaction time. I have trained in many different martial arts (moved around a lot, so just went to the nearest club of whatever) and personally I would rank Judo the highest for self defence situations. It just makes you extremely stable on your feet, while at the same time it's very easy for you to make the attacker fall down. It deescalates the situation, because you can kinda just gently trip them without hurting them when they come at you and after the third time they fall down on their ass and have to awkwardly scramble back up they start feeling really stupid and just want to get away from the embarrassment.

  • @dickbison

    @dickbison

    Жыл бұрын

    That being said I once did just that and walked away and 10 minutes later I just suddenly saw light and darkness. The little bastard sneaked up on me, punched me in the face from behind and ran away. Gave me a black eye, so I guess he got his revenge lol. So yeah, being aware of your surroundings is key, maybe more important than anything else.

  • @BPchadlite

    @BPchadlite

    Жыл бұрын

    I just pull guard, berimbolo and then wet willy for self defense situations. It deescalates the situation because you can kinda just gently moisten them without hurting them.

  • @dickbison

    @dickbison

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BPchadlite Haha, very effective :) Seriously though, appearances are VERY important in a street fight. Maybe I'm more focused on that because my experience is mostly in security around crowds of drunken people + wearing a uniform you can easily look like the bad guy to the onlookers and it can create a real mess and chaos. A fistfifght looks like two guys fighting, same with wrestling. But when you trip them they have to stand up and "restart" the aggression, it's very apparent. Often even their friends will see it's their buddy that is acting up and will try to calm him down.

  • @smokingrodballs2735

    @smokingrodballs2735

    Жыл бұрын

    100 agree%, judo is like striking of the grappling arts, u can use it against many attackers at once, just like punching or kicking, u can end the find in one throw, especially if they can't break fall. Just make sure u have a good reason to use this as I've seen many people have their heads smashed on the concrete after a throw. But definitely more effective than BJJ for a fast finish of a fight. Also works really well with your striking as all judo throws start from standing. U also don't need a gi for most throws, but as a bouncer u can grab clothes snd jackets and use that as if its a gi

  • @user1_1_1

    @user1_1_1

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is playing tennis would make you a better fighter than practicing aikido

  • @glady9784
    @glady9784 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, if Aikido is C tier when it comes to street fighting, I already lost hope to the rest of the tier list

  • @showmeyourjitss

    @showmeyourjitss

    Жыл бұрын

    aikido sucks lmao

  • @PerunaMuayThai

    @PerunaMuayThai

    Жыл бұрын

    As Icy Mike said, training something is still better than training nothing. A drunk goofus like Jeff postulated would be able to resist a throw as well as your uke.

  • @wattlebough

    @wattlebough

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s being too generous?

  • @Six-bw3ir

    @Six-bw3ir

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wattlebough I think he is

  • @wattlebough

    @wattlebough

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Six-bw3ir With Aikido I agree. He’s being too generous.

  • @VoidHxnter
    @VoidHxnter10 ай бұрын

    My Jiu Jitsu instructor loves teaching Judo takedowns. The things work like bread and butter and can transition perfectly into many of the basic moves.

  • @djharto4917

    @djharto4917

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s because bjj is judo! Judo for girls

  • @marciafemista

    @marciafemista

    2 ай бұрын

    @@djharto4917 HAHA try to go agains't a bjj fighter, you'd be out of breath in a minute

  • @artyomarty391

    @artyomarty391

    2 ай бұрын

    nobody gonna believe me, but when I was 6 or something in Russia I did judo/sambo for like a year and then stopped. I probably had around a hundred street fights from age 7-16 including in USA when I moved. I lost maybe 1-2 fights and even then I wouldnt call them "lost". Everyone underestimated me. No fight lasted more than like a minute and all ended up in the first like 20 seconds with me doing some kind of throw and then me getting on top I wasnt big, but very strong and athletic so that helped too (could do 25 pull ups at age 10). When I moved to US, the strongest black kid in 4th grade picked on me, I told him lets go fight after school. Dude dropped in 2 seconds. He thought it was going to be a fist exchange, and got really scared when he ended up being controlled by me. The thing with wrestling, is it sends a big fear into your mind when someone else is controlling your body As an adult I have no idea how effective Judo is. fighting at my age (36) is much more risky. People use weapons, friends, I could get charged, etc. You also gotta be extremely fit and Im not anymore

  • @djharto4917

    @djharto4917

    2 ай бұрын

    You shouldn’t post so much trash on line. You need to talk to someone

  • @marciafemista

    @marciafemista

    2 ай бұрын

    @@djharto4917 you got cheated on?

  • @colorfullyme
    @colorfullyme7 ай бұрын

    Great interview. The interviewee shares his knowledge so clearly, and the interviewer asked perfect follow up questions. Thanks guys!

  • @teryngreen1655
    @teryngreen1655 Жыл бұрын

    When Jeff explains his knowledge about a martial art, it's on point. But when he gives the grade, it just leaves me with a question mark. It's like you've got to change the grading system based on what he says because he's too polite to give any martial art less than a C grade. Jeff is definitely the type of teacher that would grade on a curve.

  • @MMAShredded

    @MMAShredded

    Жыл бұрын

    LOLL sorry I'm too Canadian

  • @DarkDoughnutsVids

    @DarkDoughnutsVids

    Жыл бұрын

    This's a pretty good observation. I've seen a few comments shitting on Jeff for putting certain martial arts in "C", but if we actually took the time to listen to what he says, it becomes obvious that it's just a polite version of giving them an F tier

  • @MMAShredded

    @MMAShredded

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DarkDoughnutsVids 😂😂

  • @jaroslavhavel7494

    @jaroslavhavel7494

    Жыл бұрын

    My father is policeman and he uses aikido all the time and it didn't failed single time. Granted no fighter gonna fight you. But it worked on drunks, "Streetfighters", and criminals. But we don't train aikido what Roka trained. Our dojo is more modern and we have some bjj in it and striking so we are able to use technique. Without striking "atemi" its impossible to use aikido at all in my opinion so most aikido schools we call them dancers.

  • @tsetsoangelov6455

    @tsetsoangelov6455

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MMAShredded LOL :d

  • @kbkb2219
    @kbkb2219 Жыл бұрын

    As a black belt in Aikido, I would give it a D rating for real fighting.

  • @simongloutnez589

    @simongloutnez589

    11 ай бұрын

    I did yoseikan budo : a mixed martial art of karate, japanese jiu jitsu and also aikido. The aikido we did was basically the same locks and grapple we praticed in jiu jitsu but with different ways to send them. I found that, coupled with praticing new ways to counter those attacks, it really helped my footing and creativity. Which is always nice.

  • @mehmethicgulmez6832

    @mehmethicgulmez6832

    7 ай бұрын

    Did you ever get beaten in street 😅

  • @anishdas7432

    @anishdas7432

    4 ай бұрын

    did you do kyokushin@@simongloutnez589

  • @goofygrandlouis6296

    @goofygrandlouis6296

    4 ай бұрын

    They also forgot the GOAT of technique in a street fight : *running* ! ☺ When sh*t hits the fan, run hard, run long, run fast.

  • @anishdas7432

    @anishdas7432

    4 ай бұрын

    i agree running is the greatest martial artist @@goofygrandlouis6296

  • @Madskillsuniversity
    @Madskillsuniversity8 ай бұрын

    Thank you! This was VERY informative! I learned a TON.

  • @user-je2ef8dk5h
    @user-je2ef8dk5h18 күн бұрын

    Hi Jeff, As usual you are pretty much right ON when being put on the spot with very difficult questions, and yet always answering with your respectful and professional manner that honor the validity of all martial arts.....BRAVO!

  • @Neldot
    @Neldot Жыл бұрын

    11:00 He nails perfectly why karate is so amazing. People often fail to understand that the training movements you see in karate practice (kihon and kata) are not exactly the real fight, they're just schemes you repeat to train your body and prepare it to react quickly, but the real fight in karate is all about distance and timely reactions. This is why you see karate fighters land kicks and blows so precisely.

  • @thunderkatz4219

    @thunderkatz4219

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly I do Okinawan kenpo btw

  • @USA_UNITED1776

    @USA_UNITED1776

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, the thing is in most karate classes they only teach kata, rendering it useless.

  • @Dariet88

    @Dariet88

    Жыл бұрын

    He needs to see kyokushin/ashihara/enshin conditioning

  • @fadingship935

    @fadingship935

    Жыл бұрын

    kata is completely useless for fights. It looks aesthetic tho.

  • @kaen4299

    @kaen4299

    Жыл бұрын

    Which Karate though? Kyokushin Karateka don't move like that when they fight.

  • @MrPerlew
    @MrPerlew Жыл бұрын

    As someone who did Tekwondo for 9 years I can firmly say that Tekwondo is fun, flashy and explosive, and same as for most other martial arts you could easily take someone untrained. Though as hard it is to say, I think that Tekwondo is something you supliment your fighting style with, rather than base your style of in a mma type sitch. You see a lot of olympic level Tekwondo fighters be both medalists in Tekwondo and kickboxing, since it flows into one another very well. Thing about using Tekwondo in mma is that its something you use when you've already set up a good opening for it, but it isn't great at creating those openings by itself.

  • @gronizherz3603

    @gronizherz3603

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed - when I did taekwondo a lot of the more advanced people I went with (especially 1 black belt who also had a black belt in jiujutsu!) would spend a lot of their free time outside of training suplimenting their fighting style with more focus on grappling, boxing, wrestling, et.c.

  • @enclavesoldier1778

    @enclavesoldier1778

    Жыл бұрын

    Tiekwondo is ketchup

  • @galleskovar5323

    @galleskovar5323

    Жыл бұрын

    God bless you with Faith and his Holy Ghost through Jesus Christ almighty!

  • @whyez3280

    @whyez3280

    Жыл бұрын

    taekwando is flashy more than effective

  • @jogobetter

    @jogobetter

    Жыл бұрын

    he is basing it on if you have any bjj and striking knowledge already you clown

  • @brandonellisFLman
    @brandonellisFLman10 ай бұрын

    I have been following Jeff for about a year and love watching his videos and how many people he he actually does sparring with just to put out a video is amazing. I'm just glad that at only 3 months into Muay Thai training in a MMA gym I'm able to agree and even know what Jeff is gonna chose before he does. Makes me realize just how much knowledge I've gained in martial arts in a relatively short time. But like Jeff said , on my first day of Muay Thai training I learned to kick and now my Teep , switch, back and side kicks are so powerful I knocked the heavy banana bag thru the wall at American Top Team 😆 I say that to demonstrate how Jeff said boxing/kickboxing and Muay Thai were all quick to learn and get good at when compared to other traditional martial arts like Kung Fu.

  • @amarug
    @amarug Жыл бұрын

    I love Karate - and as a mechanical engineer and long-time Karate practitioner, I feel like a lot of the moves are optimized mechanically for getting the most impact for a punch or kick that your body can dish out. But as he said, distance management is key, because that is a prerequisite to maximizing the peak forces your body can generate (like the basic punch called 'oi-zuki' essentially comes out of your whole body, esp also from your legs via grip on the floor. when trained well, even a person with relatively low, muscular strength will be able to throw a quite fierce punch. Historically the idea of Karate was also a bit to essentially knockout/kill the opponent in one blow rather than making a whole fight out of it. with that, it may look less spectacular than some other martial arts, but it's amazing at channeling huge forces quickly). So in a narrow area, it would surely be less effective than many other martial arts...

  • @iminsideyourwalls9432

    @iminsideyourwalls9432

    Жыл бұрын

    As a civil engineer i prefer muay thai,and it hasn't anything to do with my profession

  • @jordannorris2406

    @jordannorris2406

    11 ай бұрын

    @@iminsideyourwalls9432 as CFO I prefer boxing and it has everything to do with my profession 😂

  • @bernardoj54

    @bernardoj54

    9 ай бұрын

    As far as Karate, only Kyokushin works, period.

  • @amarug

    @amarug

    9 ай бұрын

    @@bernardoj54 Passing general judgment by what category of Karate "works" or "doesn't work" seems kinda simple to me. In average, Kyokushin-style labelled Dojos certainly weigh heavily on the fighting aspect, but in my experience, it seems much more dependent on the individual Dojo, rather than just the style. By far the most gut-wrenchingly violent Dojo I have ever visited, was one in Switzerland committed to the Shotokan style. Damn, those guys there had no limits, from kicks to the head till faint, daily blood, you name it, it was there. It's really more "who" than "what name do you give your exact style". at the end of the day

  • @jojosenjoyer2701

    @jojosenjoyer2701

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@s3vashlil bro, what the FUCK do u know abt fighting? First of all its far from overrated, its absolutely underrated bc ppl shit on it without knowing anything. The kata and school technique is only used for class and has certain benefits if done correctly. If we are talking the actual karate, made for fighting, i am willing to bet it would put your ass to sleep in seconds, it has very straightforward and effective punches/kicks and is the actual basis of most Martial arts today. It also depends on the style and place u learn it, iv seen some absolutely dogshit boxing places but iv never said its bad. I train in a preaty damn good club and we have separate fighting classes where we are absolutely exsausted from how hard and draining it is

  • @da1onlynickvicious
    @da1onlynickvicious Жыл бұрын

    Homey is giving waaaay too much credit to aikido lmao I don’t think he’s taking pressure testing into account at all

  • @bobmcbob9856

    @bobmcbob9856

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I feel like he’s assuming it’s an actual fighter from each art rather than considering the typical training methods of a given art

  • @temp--1054

    @temp--1054

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr bro just like judo like bro sambo > bjj > judo imo

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    Жыл бұрын

    Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    Жыл бұрын

    Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe. :3

  • @elhackerrobloxiano4662

    @elhackerrobloxiano4662

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked hahahaha

  • @danielskrivan6921
    @danielskrivan6921 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate the mindset of Jeff Chan in this video. Most arts are going to give you skills that work against the untrained in a short period of time. After that, you're min/maxing for the sport. An example would be a boxer learning to punch in such a way that they won't be counter punched. If your opponent is going to wait for your combo to stop instead of counter punching to interrupt your combo, then it doesn't really matter that you know the head movement and proper handwork to keep your head protected while you're punching.

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but, Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.

  • @xavierharris7123

    @xavierharris7123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked got any evidence?

  • @lordmoncef5494

    @lordmoncef5494

    Жыл бұрын

    Except aikido

  • @frostyhcr2680
    @frostyhcr26809 ай бұрын

    AMAZINGLY DONE!!! i try to skip to next bit i cant i will miss smt u will get high places with how u have it

  • @gabrielf.712
    @gabrielf.712 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks..

  • @arcbueno1
    @arcbueno1 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Jeff is being so humble when admits that he changes his opinion about some arts (like my favorite one karate) and when he says that he don't know the art to comment about, some youtubers will say "IT'S NOT WORK" in the first moment. Being like Jeff make we more able to learn, adapt and use other arts.

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    Жыл бұрын

    What are you talking about? Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.

  • @tyrikmoore2903

    @tyrikmoore2903

    Жыл бұрын

    Karate definitely works. Really every art works when you use what’s useful and train it

  • @r.r.4563

    @r.r.4563

    Ай бұрын

    Karate and Kenpo are the most misunderstood martial arts IMO. The trouble is there’s a lot of hacks and mcdojo scammers who make it look bad. On top of that, even when you find a proper place people see the movements and sets people do and think it looks ridiculous. In reality these mcdojo cucks are not real karate and only teach in child dojos typically, and those exercises are not how you’re supposed to fight in acc sparring. It’s only done to get the body to understand the mechanics of moves and distance and get it down to a science. Once your reaction time is high and you understand the mechanics behind momentum, and condition as much as possible, karate makes guys who hit HARD, some of the hardest hands in MMA and they react fast as hell. And they’re ability to gauge distance is precise. And you can apply those mechanics to any other striking. Karate boxing or even karate Muay Thai will hurt even more.

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 Жыл бұрын

    I like how fair he's being, point about capoeira, a lot of capoeira academy's are also involved in bjj as well, the local one around me is run by a BJJ brown belt. I've sparred with him and it's terrifying. Many use it as an add on to their BJJ as well as a way of creating muscle memory/movement unlocking for fighting not the main art.

  • @jacksonmuaythai

    @jacksonmuaythai

    Жыл бұрын

    Also a beautiful way to experience Brazilian culture!

  • @lewisb85

    @lewisb85

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jacksonmuaythai So true, done a couple of seminars, the guy who I was talking about I've seen him land sakuraba style cartwheel guard passes in purple/brown belt level competition.

  • @zerragut2969

    @zerragut2969

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lewisb85 I see all styles of capoeira as signature styles like how I could throw a sakuraba during a fight the way saenchai throws his cartwheel kicks

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but... Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.

  • @lancemoraes853

    @lancemoraes853

    Жыл бұрын

    Colby Covington coach is coapeira teacher

  • @HENTAICOMBO
    @HENTAICOMBO Жыл бұрын

    this is really informative. ❤

  • @krishnakamble9698
    @krishnakamble969811 ай бұрын

    I was a boxer for quite some time. I have recently switched to Wing Chun and have stuck with it for the amount of competence it helps someone develop. I have learnt is for just four and a half months and feel street safe if not combat ready.

  • @vonb2792
    @vonb2792 Жыл бұрын

    I love Jeff, he helps me getting back into grappling (his sambo, judo, wrestling) when doing MMA & muaythai sparring

  • @TheHeirdryer
    @TheHeirdryer Жыл бұрын

    I love and teach Karate, but have trained in Boxing and Judo for countless years. The question I get often from new students, is what style do you recommend to be best for effectiveness etc, I always say from my experience in my field is:-1st Avoid conflict ,2nd Boxing, 3rd Judo, then Karate, but it really depends on the person's attitude to training and the club's teaching methods etc, but most importantly is to find a style, you enjoy the most!!!

  • @LucasIsHereYT
    @LucasIsHereYT11 ай бұрын

    As someone with a brother who wrestled in high school, the discipline is insane. He subsided off of water, pomegranates, granola bars, and maybe the odd cookie here or there for a quarter of a year so he could be two weight classes lower than where he was before. He was so close to not making weight that he needed to run miles every morning in order to lose enough water weight so he could compete. Over a year and a half after he placed 5th at state, his face is still bony from the ridiculous weight cut he had to go through. I asked everyone on the team what they thought about wrestling and they said these two things, "It sucks," and, "It's a way of life."

  • @apachehelicopter7625

    @apachehelicopter7625

    8 ай бұрын

    sounds like hell, and the malnutrition probably wouldn't help performance.

  • @AQBPlays

    @AQBPlays

    8 ай бұрын

    A weight bully then

  • @karlmanning2603

    @karlmanning2603

    7 ай бұрын

    As someone who did wrestling for 8 years, the sport is cruel because you could train your butt off all week and cut the necessary weight to get into the desired weight class….. but all that effort could be over in a matter of seconds as you get pinned by a much better opponent. Then all of that time and energy just doesn’t feel worth the trouble. But when you’re victorious, and you get that medal in a tournament….. it feels SO much sweeter. Wrestling is certainly not for the faint of heart. Yet somehow, I’m still glad I did it.

  • @GabrielNavarro-bo7st

    @GabrielNavarro-bo7st

    7 ай бұрын

    Sumo wrestling is fun to watch.

  • @blaynegreiner9365

    @blaynegreiner9365

    7 ай бұрын

    I didn't continue to compete in college but was quite successful in high school, competing at both regional and state. I can say that not everyone aggressively cuts weight and lives that kind of a lifestyle, even at the highest level of the sport. As the other commenter said, those are weight bullies that are potentially taking years off their life for no reason other than to gain an edge over people who compete at their natural weight class. Unless you are doing it professionally, it just isn't worth it. Even then, if you aren't a top 10 fighter, you probably aren't making enough money for it to be worth it.

  • @qb1984
    @qb1984 Жыл бұрын

    Great content

  • @sebastijan5894
    @sebastijan5894 Жыл бұрын

    I’m suprised Rokas didn’t discuss or react to placing Aikido so high

  • @cahallo5964

    @cahallo5964

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jesusiskingofkingss actually the other way around, he hated it real hard for like a year, he's only recently come back to seeing its value

  • @littlegirlshowSynch
    @littlegirlshowSynch Жыл бұрын

    Boxing has always been my favorite because of how simple it is, pretty much the just the basic fundamentals of fighting. How to throw a proper punch, how to block/dodge a punch, and simple fighting stance/footwork. Obviously it's not going to work in every situation, but I always kind of figured if you just wanted to learn to how to fight without turning it into a full time hobby it would be by learning boxing.

  • @daebak7370

    @daebak7370

    Жыл бұрын

    Simple but very difficult to master

  • @smlyangz1829

    @smlyangz1829

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daebak7370 yes

  • @todd2683

    @todd2683

    6 ай бұрын

    Hello said other than Gracie bjj learn Boxing.

  • @shreyanshRn

    @shreyanshRn

    3 ай бұрын

    Boxing is good if you are tall bulky beast with so much strength

  • @George-ew3gm

    @George-ew3gm

    3 ай бұрын

    @@shreyanshRn it is useless in case an opponent has knife or a gun

  • @aasports8924
    @aasports892411 ай бұрын

    Finally. Someone spit it out. Even in MMA, you have to be good at your boxing skills because it is the most effective when it comes to striking while having a composed stance

  • @kylemorrissey6958
    @kylemorrissey695822 күн бұрын

    Great list

  • @andycampbell85
    @andycampbell85 Жыл бұрын

    Not 💯 sure about some of Jeff's grades here but his knowledge of Martial arts shines through! Love these types of videos where you go into the merits of each style. 🔥

  • @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    @ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmmmm... Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.

  • @wtfurlookingat1514

    @wtfurlookingat1514

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonahpostsstuff1301 it was a joke

  • @tha1ne
    @tha1ne Жыл бұрын

    dam.. jeff musta woke up thinking 'today I choose generosity'

  • @Eskildor
    @Eskildor Жыл бұрын

    Learned a lot from this👌❤️💪🥋

  • @scottwheldon9992
    @scottwheldon99926 ай бұрын

    I really respect Jeff's take on TKD. As a TKD practitioner I completely agree with his take. The point system in sparring really rewards the go for broke with some form of spin kick all the time which often leads the head exposed. More conservative approaches tend to score less points and the head gear protects pretty well so people typically don't focus on head defense with hands as much as footwork.

  • @DJ-st4rs

    @DJ-st4rs

    3 ай бұрын

    Which TKD are you talking about? There are 2 styles - Im guessing just based on your comment that you are talking about WTF Olympic style TKD - in ITF Taekwondo which this is used in the army - what is it with Americans & not knowing there are 2 styles of Taekwondo? ITF taekwondo uses elbows, knees, even headbutts we have trained, shoulder strikes - When you say TKD mention which one ITF or WTF - The differences in styles is light and day

  • @johnh8546
    @johnh8546 Жыл бұрын

    This goes with what I've heard my entire life that if you can box and you can wrestle you can fight. Which MMA has shown to hold very true.

  • @sparkofcuriousity

    @sparkofcuriousity

    Жыл бұрын

    Precisely this. If you train a good striking form like boxing or kickboxing and you train a good takedown/grappling form like Judo or Jiujitsu, you're set. This was the revelation that MMA really brought to reality.

  • @12shah74

    @12shah74

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sparkofcuriousity Hi, how is the Judo/boxing combo for security/self defense?

  • @sparkofcuriousity

    @sparkofcuriousity

    Жыл бұрын

    @@12shah74 I think that's solid. If you're doing security, you can use the boxing/judo as your foundation but do some training with other styles sporadically to incorporate some of those elements and complement your foundation. For example Muay Thai or kickboxing to complement your boxing, and some wrestling, Jiujitsu etc. But, let's say, you only have boxing and judo available near you, i would say it's effective.

  • @RJ-gk4rt

    @RJ-gk4rt

    8 ай бұрын

    Boxing and wrestling is all you need. HANDS AND SPRAWLS. BJJ is useless vs a wrestler with hands. Wrestlers with hands DOMINATE mma

  • @Shojushoju
    @Shojushoju Жыл бұрын

    Awesome Video!!! Jeff Chan is so respectful of the various martial arts - he doesn’t want to trash any of them with a low grade. I love these ranking videos overall.

  • @amirmekhaiel540
    @amirmekhaiel54011 ай бұрын

    amazing video

  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti Жыл бұрын

    This video is super cool, also I really like how Jeff motivates the answers!

  • @gutsandcasc
    @gutsandcasc Жыл бұрын

    I used to do wrestling and boxing in highschool and then switched to muay thai 100%. I think this is a good breakdown in this video. Of course I "believe" what I believe; it all comes down to the individual doing whatever style. People who are naturally more athletic will be good at whatever style they land on. From my experience; you don't want to get into a street fight with wrestling or judo. But then again in a street fight any lucky hit is a game changer.

  • @AdenikiBonas-rk7yz

    @AdenikiBonas-rk7yz

    Жыл бұрын

    Have a question, which one is better boxing or muay thai?

  • @gutsandcasc

    @gutsandcasc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AdenikiBonas-rk7yz Muay Thai will get you prepared for all situations

  • @tdreloaded

    @tdreloaded

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you mean you wouldn’t want to get in a street fight with a wrestler or a judoka? Because a single throw/slam is enough to cause crippling damage to your opponent. If your good at wrestling or judo then I think the other guy is the one who was to worry.

  • @gutsandcasc

    @gutsandcasc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tdreloaded I wouldn't want to get into a street fight with anyone for the record; I've sparred with my judo-pal thaiboxing and while I have him outclassed in striking; if it came down to it he could toss me to the ground and break my back or something. And the bast--rd knows this XD XD XD

  • @hb9145

    @hb9145

    6 ай бұрын

    @@AdenikiBonas-rk7yz Muay Thai can use kicks, elbows, knees, clinch and throws. Boxers are very good at what they do, but they have big holes in their game that can be exploited.

  • @todd2683
    @todd26836 ай бұрын

    Great points.

  • @sparkofcuriousity
    @sparkofcuriousity Жыл бұрын

    This is a good tier list and very good assessment from the guest. Very enjoyable to watch and listen to.

  • @MikeMessiah

    @MikeMessiah

    4 ай бұрын

    most bullshit assessment ever

  • @Kris-ym2zr
    @Kris-ym2zr Жыл бұрын

    Great video, loved how you rearranged the table based on different considerations after you already had done the first version.

  • @iROChakri
    @iROChakri Жыл бұрын

    Muay thai ... best striking Wrestling ... best take down BJJ ... best submission = MMA today These three styles are just all you need 💀

  • @jordannorris2406

    @jordannorris2406

    11 ай бұрын

    And basic boxing

  • @steviebob3119

    @steviebob3119

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jordannorris2406 muay thai is boxing, but better in all departments other than the importance of head movement.

  • @mttstff

    @mttstff

    11 ай бұрын

    And for only $300 a month! lmfao.

  • @user-qj4vg6ik6n

    @user-qj4vg6ik6n

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@steviebob3119I love Muay Thai and think it is definitely one of the best striking bases for MMA, but the stance and footwork don't translate particularly well. If you are a grappler learning to strike, you might be better off learning boxing.

  • @user-qj4vg6ik6n

    @user-qj4vg6ik6n

    11 ай бұрын

    Plus it depends on where you are, but in the us I think it is a lot easier to find a good boxing gym.

  • @rollsgracie268
    @rollsgracie2687 ай бұрын

    I like this guys free-flowing unorthodox style when they show them sparring creative fluid

  • @johnneiberger7311
    @johnneiberger731111 ай бұрын

    Great video! The discussion about karate made me wonder specifically about how Enshin karate would fair in MMA. I used to love seeing the Sabaki tournament here in Denver. Enshin seems quite a bit different from many other karate styles.

  • @RavenGuardian
    @RavenGuardian Жыл бұрын

    On the topic of Japanese Jiu Jitsu, there's also the JJIF format where they actually spar and have full contact competitions. No ground work, but purely striking and stand up grappling.

  • @jeremytheimer7443

    @jeremytheimer7443

    Жыл бұрын

    Also Japanese police use it, it's by far the oldest martial art here. If it was innefective it would have died out 1000 years ago.

  • @Jenjak
    @Jenjak Жыл бұрын

    In defense of capoeira I did witness someone having no clue of what the capoeirista was doing and dived into a meia lua de compaso, and got smashed. So if you have the malice and are able to set people up into your strikes, capoeira can be deadly. Generally, you only need to connect once.

  • @Jaburu

    @Jaburu

    Жыл бұрын

    that was kind of what he said

  • @DJEmirSantana

    @DJEmirSantana

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually that is the ultimate in the art of fighting without fighting LOL escape, they're not catching you at that point, once you get an exit no one will catch you LOL

  • @felipe.lizama.archviz

    @felipe.lizama.archviz

    Жыл бұрын

    With media lua de compaso you hit with your body weight plus the inertia of the spin, so It is a very dangerous kick

  • @fivesix4926
    @fivesix4926 Жыл бұрын

    This video has inspired me to try out Muay Thai, gonna start in around a week or two. Hope I can stick with it long term for fitness and self defense purposes

  • @MartialArtsJourney

    @MartialArtsJourney

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @AMVedits05

    @AMVedits05

    Жыл бұрын

    haha same here

  • @jmohan7530

    @jmohan7530

    Жыл бұрын

    W

  • @lopic_david02

    @lopic_david02

    Жыл бұрын

    ima do muay thai and boxing. seems very effective in a combination

  • @trooperalex

    @trooperalex

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@lopic_david02 How's that going because I would like to try that combination too. What parts of each style do you use?

  • @orlandomarchena4885
    @orlandomarchena4885 Жыл бұрын

    PERFECT placing of the commercial 4 the wallet (I'm serious). Just when looking how to analyze the dangers of fighting on the streets I started thinking "streetfighting , my money?". GREAT move you fox !!

  • @V555Vendetta
    @V555Vendetta Жыл бұрын

    Karate background MMA guy here: I appreciate this guy's praise of karate and I love how much more praise traditional arts are getting nowadays as it's making a comeback due to the machidas and wonderboys out there so I'll give it a go and explain the in and out movement we use a lot: It's like fencing. Karate guys treat a fight like it's a sword battle, and that your hands and feet are like sword, you wanna hit in the most aggressive, spurratic, single strike the most accurately you can without getting hit without the other swordsman's sword. It's often compared to very old Irish boxing, which was very similar in concept to this style of movement as they fought bare knuckle and thus are more careful with strikes and striking. The "hands down" stance is to allow for mobility and a steeper stance. As he points out it sucks in a bar fight but in an open parking lot it's helped me once

  • @filth6996

    @filth6996

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ve also noticed that this “Karate Boxing” stance seems to be ideal for MMA some good examples would be Henry Cejudo and Patricio Pitbull. Both short guys with short reach but through the “fencing” you’re talking about manage to land good shots on bigger taller opponents. Fedor and Whittaker as well.

  • @zerragut2969

    @zerragut2969

    Жыл бұрын

    @@filth6996 I think MMA fighters use a wider stance because they aren't as exposed to leg kicks

  • @waefawawrgaw2835

    @waefawawrgaw2835

    Жыл бұрын

    karate is a joke lmao u get disqualified for KO'ing an opponent in the olympics haha

  • @V555Vendetta

    @V555Vendetta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@waefawawrgaw2835 you're talking point karate not full contact. Kyokushin is the father of kickboxing.

  • @V555Vendetta

    @V555Vendetta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@waefawawrgaw2835 and this is why full contact guys didn't want karate in the Olympics

  • @BernardoWLopes
    @BernardoWLopes Жыл бұрын

    I think you should've differentiated Sambo and combat Sambo! Khabib, Islam, Fedor., blagoy, nemkov, minakov, yaroslav amosov, arlovski, merab dbalishvili, all competed in Combat Sambo, besides sambo. Strikes included, basically MMA.

  • @ItsOfficial-IM-ChessYT
    @ItsOfficial-IM-ChessYT9 ай бұрын

    "It's not about the Martial Arts, it's about discipline,self-defense,and more." -Wise man

  • @artyomarty391

    @artyomarty391

    2 ай бұрын

    its also a lot about your physical fitness. You can be a black belt but still get taken down by someone less trained, if this guy is just stronger and more fit

  • @whywhy3289
    @whywhy32899 ай бұрын

    Wing chin is especially good for security work. You’re already likely to be in close proximity and have quite skill gap, and trapping the hands is an effective way to end the fight without escalating it further.

  • @jacksonmuaythai
    @jacksonmuaythai Жыл бұрын

    Finally I can stop rewatching the other videos you did with Mike and Ramsay EDIT: wow, super disagree with the majority of the rankings. No hate to Jeff, he is much more knowledgeable than me, but I whole heartedly disagree that Muay Thai is better than Sambo for the street OR the ring

  • @shumookerjee293
    @shumookerjee293 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video from two of my favorite Martial Artist/KZreadrs. I think Jeff's grading is fairly accurate. Though he's so politely Canadian, you could tell he struggled to grade anything below a C.🤣

  • @MelloCello7
    @MelloCello74 ай бұрын

    This is the best list I've seen online thus far! I still think that TKD could get a little more love as the art that can generate the most power per pound, but if you are not training it well (pressure testing, punches to the face etc), and it is not paired with anything else, you can most certainly get in a lot of trouble. As much as I love Wing Chun, his assessment on it is pretty fair, though it certainly acts a concealed blade when paired with Boxing and especially BJJ.

  • @crystaloffrost
    @crystaloffrost Жыл бұрын

    This guy has done the best listing of the martial arts for street. Boxing and wrestling!!

  • @drakeplankers4940
    @drakeplankers4940 Жыл бұрын

    Mannn everyone I hear on here says JJJ doesn’t spar but we do in our gym every day. Also I guess there is a difference between modern Japanese Jiu jitsu and traditional. I practice modern Jjj. I’m gonna make a KZread channel so JJJ gets the love it deserves

  • @chriswaters2327

    @chriswaters2327

    Жыл бұрын

    BJJ is a ripoff and is just modified jjj for sports.

  • @Shaddycls

    @Shaddycls

    Жыл бұрын

    BJJ comes from Judo not Traditional, which is where Judo comes from instead.

  • @cn4s490

    @cn4s490

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Shaddycls judo, bjj, aikido, sambo are all martial arts origin from the martial art of jūjutsu. not judo.

  • @Shaddycls

    @Shaddycls

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cn4s490 BJJ comes from Judo, Judo comes from traditional Jiujitsu. Gracie was expanding Judo over Brazil showing that was more effective than striking martial arts, and the guy taught Gracie kids who developed BJJ.

  • @cn4s490

    @cn4s490

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Shaddycls there is no difference .they all come from traditional Jiujitsu.

  • @alexanderzhulin3528
    @alexanderzhulin3528 Жыл бұрын

    There are two rulesets of sambo - sport and combat. While sport variant is basically a judo combat sambo is like MMA with limited time on the ground, which is amazing for street. In combat sambo you have to submit in 5 seconds or get back on your feet and start over.

  • @vincedgarvlogs

    @vincedgarvlogs

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, he made a mistake on Combat Sambo. If there is an S tier it should be Combat Sambo alone, and all are A tier below. Combat Sambo is the only pure art who can beat all martial arts.

  • @DJSerpent

    @DJSerpent

    Жыл бұрын

    Combat Sambo look at Khabib, it's so damn effective.

  • @pedroguerrero3862

    @pedroguerrero3862

    Жыл бұрын

    While combat samba is very similar to mma, it rules actually allows you to do things that would be illegal in mma, specifically head butts and groin strikes. you are allowed to headbutt standing or on the ground but you need 3 point of contact with the ground to do that. Also you are allow to strike the groin, but only in the clinch with knee strikes

  • @SenseiWu12

    @SenseiWu12

    10 ай бұрын

    3 I think, combat sambo is a lot more sport based now, so I thing there’s something called applied sambo which is more t for the military

  • @MannyRyder
    @MannyRyder Жыл бұрын

    If you ever do something like this again can you possibly make a side by side identical ranking chart of 1 being Street Fight (or example A) & 2 being MMA (or example B) so at both times we see a side by side ranking comparison ?

  • @bennconner1195
    @bennconner119511 ай бұрын

    I like boxing and the takedown defence you get from wrestling because it’s easy to learn and you can still go hard in the gym to put on more size & strength.

  • @brettbrideau206
    @brettbrideau206 Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe he was about to give Aikido an A-.... Downgrades to C, this still way to high. Honestly, no one is going to run at you leaning back with both of their hands fully extended. Aikido doesn't teach you under pressure, I could almost argue that it could make you a worse fighter if you have never pressure tested it in real life.

  • @lucaspanto9650

    @lucaspanto9650

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. It could give you a twisted view of real fighting, throwing you off when a fight actually happens

  • @itpugil
    @itpugil Жыл бұрын

    Jeff is one of my favorite MMA KZreadrs, probably my most favorite now that I think about it. So much so that I try copying his techniques when he spars or even his bagwork. Guy gives out ton of content that its hard to believe its free. He also made me rethink the effectiveness of certain martial arts deemed ineffective, further emphasized after watching this.

  • @3god553
    @3god5536 ай бұрын

    Lethwei is underappreciated as its essentially the "street" version of Muay Thai. With the addition of headbutts and a higher level of distance control, along with the hands-down stance it leaves you less vulnerable in comparison to Muay Thai. The low kicks in Lethwei provide a ground control aspect that is fundamentally better than Muay Thai, as a teep can be read easily in MMA compared to an oblique push kick from Lethwei. Obviously Jeff has more experience than me, but I think someone coming from a high-level Lethwei background into MMA would do better than someone coming from a high-level Muay Thai background.

  • @SGhosht
    @SGhosht6 ай бұрын

    Just started Muay Thai training , never been more sore 🤣 this is gonna be an interesting ride

  • @qamzatmedvedov
    @qamzatmedvedov Жыл бұрын

    so what I got from this is a boxer with grappling wrestling or just some ground and clinch control can pretty much handle most of what life throws at them but if you can use grappling kicking and less common methods than striking you can still manage most situations so essentially you don’t NEED striking but it helps a lot and can even prevent the need for ground game

  • @eastafrika728
    @eastafrika728 Жыл бұрын

    Judo, Boxing and Taekwondo have always worked perfectly in the streets here in Nairobi.

  • @Ricardo-cp2lu

    @Ricardo-cp2lu

    Жыл бұрын

    The first 2 maybe.

  • @IGlazeChiefKeef

    @IGlazeChiefKeef

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ricardo-cp2lu Delusional

  • @Ricardo-cp2lu

    @Ricardo-cp2lu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@IGlazeChiefKeef Not me.

  • @Ricardo-cp2lu

    @Ricardo-cp2lu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@User87145 Yes, ITF taekwondo can be useful. I'm talking about the Olympic version, which is an absolute joke and I know it first hand.

  • @alvaroprietotorres4508

    @alvaroprietotorres4508

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats true. Casually, I practice 3 (Judo as a child) and are great. Taekwondo Itf, the real Taekwondo 🥋💪🥊

  • @molitareal6204
    @molitareal6204 Жыл бұрын

    “Most kicks can beat a boxer, unless theyre mike tyson” 😂

  • @fightdisciple9192
    @fightdisciple9192 Жыл бұрын

    Cool vid. Any top judo player has a top ground game these days. “Newaza” is practiced all the time at clubs now. Islam for instance a Dan grade judo player had no problem at all going to the ground with Oliveira & ended up subbing him.

  • @nacktheslayer9882
    @nacktheslayer9882 Жыл бұрын

    I love how enthusiastic he is about everything, and how icy mike was like yeah nothing actually works.

  • @MartialArtsJourney

    @MartialArtsJourney

    Жыл бұрын

    😄

  • @nacktheslayer9882

    @nacktheslayer9882

    9 ай бұрын

    @@johncena12366 his streetbeefs record begs to differ. And his part in ultimate self defense championship

  • @mrt445
    @mrt445 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of people have no idea how effective boxing is in a street fight. For me it's a combination of boxing and Roman Greco that would be the most effective arts for a street fight. Roman Greco is like nogi Judo lol.

  • @sergiotaz4167

    @sergiotaz4167

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! For me the ideal is Boxing and BJJ.

  • @SilverforceX

    @SilverforceX

    Жыл бұрын

    Boxing is great in a street fight, until you meet someone who wrestles you to the ground, or kick you in the ribs beyond range of boxing. All martial arts have flaws, this is why its important to know in the street there are no rules. Unlike in the boxing ring.

  • @prestonjantjies

    @prestonjantjies

    11 ай бұрын

    Does boxing work against fully resistant opponents?

  • @mrt445

    @mrt445

    11 ай бұрын

    @@prestonjantjies Of course. I've seen far too many examples in real life. When it comes to punching power, speed and upper body defense no other art can touch boxing. I've seen featherweight boxers knock out much larger men in street fights.

  • @NainoLoL

    @NainoLoL

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SilverforceX the chances of that is low if you know boxing lol, you aren't gonna get taken down by a wrestler going for a double leg lmao, it's gonna be some goon trying to tackle you

  • @sabuhimammadzadeh7055
    @sabuhimammadzadeh705511 ай бұрын

    I practiced boxing and kiokushinkai karate. And real aikido a bit(Serbian martial art, imroved version of aikido). Boxing and kiokushinkai are just amazing. Now I want to do judo

  • @TheArchieTheory
    @TheArchieTheory Жыл бұрын

    I wanted to do Krav Maga. This video helped me choose if I should learn it or not

  • @tomersagie2492

    @tomersagie2492

    9 ай бұрын

    its not just kickboxing, if its an actual street situation, you do anything you can. gouging eyes, knees to the groin, smashing bricks on their head. anything. and also never fighting them on their strenghs. it was made for israeli soldiers to fight armed assailants and its mai ngoal is survival. id say for mma its f and for street its S.

  • @kieranduffy3434
    @kieranduffy3434 Жыл бұрын

    I really love this video and how fair you are to each. I truly hate how so many people are easy to say "taekwondo is bad!!" Without understanding that like the GOAT said, it is about the Martial Artist. It is up to us to understand the concepts and apply them to real life situations. We can all learn to punch, kick and move. But what separates a novice from a component fighter is knowing how to use this in the most effective way possible. Naturally, doing more than one MA will make a big difference, also how the club teaches. Too many embarrassing clubs out there now more interested about money than making component fighters.

  • @bryanwcksn
    @bryanwcksn Жыл бұрын

    That blue shadow thing is annoying. But the overall video is epic. Both of you are my favourites. Jeff needs to try Machida Karate asap.

  • @wattlebough
    @wattlebough Жыл бұрын

    My rule of thumb regarding the best martial arts for self-defence is it has to be effective fighting in a public toilet cubicle/ restroom stall and on a moving bus. These are the kinds of places you can expect to be attacked. If it can’t be used in these kind of confined spaces it’s of limited use in self-defence. That’s my take.

  • @AlligatorAli

    @AlligatorAli

    Жыл бұрын

    Elbows from muay thai, maybe even knee and grappling from bjj

  • @someonethatisachristian

    @someonethatisachristian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AlligatorAli you want to avoid going down on the ground if you end up in trouble on the street, other than that, you describe krav maga. Knees and elbows are simple to learn even for untrained people and is used in krav maga, along with simple judo throws (which ive seen) and a few other things. im looking at krav maga since im a middle aged guy, i have done other martial arts.

  • @dmfaccount1272

    @dmfaccount1272

    Жыл бұрын

    @@someonethatisachristian what you want to avoid doesn't really matter. What happens, happens.

  • @AlligatorAli

    @AlligatorAli

    Жыл бұрын

    @@someonethatisachristian rear naked choke (standing) Arm twists. There must be other standing grappling moves well.

  • @someonethatisachristian

    @someonethatisachristian

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AlligatorAli im not that well versed in krav maga, i havent started with it yet, i only know it from theory.

  • @arisejeff
    @arisejeff Жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness I'm doing Muay Thai. Glad to know it's useful

  • @ashtoncomer935
    @ashtoncomer935 Жыл бұрын

    What would you rank a Muay Thai Jui jitsu combo? I’m doing just those two for now but I want to solidify my Jui jitsu and Thai by doing wrestling and boxing, but for the first two what do you think?

  • @bobmcbob9856
    @bobmcbob9856 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting how varied the ratings in each tier list video have been. Regarding karate, and I think he described Taekwondo similarly though I’m pretty unfamiliar with TKD, I’d say it’s a matter of most techniques being effective but many schools having very bad training methodologies, because of a combination of pandering to kids and excessive adherence to tradition. A good chunk of karate techniques are shared with higher tier standup martial arts like kickboxing and fair amount of the more unique ones have been used effectively, but yeah, like I said, lots of shit training methodologies. Most of you are probably thinking I’m gonna say “but the school I went to was ideal”. No. It was certainly above average IMO, in that we sparred often, there was no weird culty Sensei syndrome, we learned a bit of BJJ too (1 week of classes every month), and he never gave black belts to kids “you can’t grade for black belt until you at least start getting your adult strength, because at the end of the day, you’re not much of a black belt if you can’t at least hold your own against a grown man”, yet at the same time there’s no black belt fetishization, he makes it clear throughout our karate careers that first Dan is just “you’ve completed the tutorial”, not “your fists are deadly weapons and must be register with the government”. However, it was definitely quite kid focused so it took years before we were allowed to move past pretty light contact sparring. I’m not advocating for like full contact fighting between 12 year olds, but I think a bit more contact earlier on would’ve been very beneficial, and it seems my Sensei agrees because recently he’s been introducing more sparring and more contact (more, not full) in the kids classes. We also do spend a lot of time on kata. I do like kata, I enjoy it as a traditional thing, but personally I’d focus on it less to have more time to spar. Like it’s a very big part of our exams for each belt so we end up devoting, I think, a bit more time to it than is ideal. Not as bad as other schools I’ve seen, we do still have time to do more practical drills and spar, but I’d still definitely cut back on the kata skimping. Sadly I don’t think my Sensei will make that change, at least I’m the foreseeable future. What’s funny is that the same guy’s purely BJJ classes which I also attended, have somewhat of a different mentality. Rolling every class, obviously BJJ has nothing like Kata, so it feels almost like a different school. Perhaps if I’d started as an adult I’d feel differently but like kids over 10ish can start taking things a bit more seriously so I still think he waited too long.

  • @ripitvapars

    @ripitvapars

    Жыл бұрын

    Karate is definitely not below in a tier than kickboxing, that's just ridiculous. Also kata is not shit training, it's actually something a lot of these more primitive (easy-to-master) arts are missing. Kata is for developing precision, control of your movements and to train your muscle memory (faster movements, reaction time, less fatigue from practicing), plus this can be done alone, when you have no sparring partner. Get up in the morning before everyone else like Kobe in his basketball camps and do kata. Then do it in the evening after the last practice.

  • @bobmcbob9856

    @bobmcbob9856

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ripitvapars I mean, karate, as practiced in most schools, is less focused on practicality than kickboxing as practiced in most schools. If the way it’s taught and practiced were ignored and the technique compared, karate and kickboxing would rate about the same, but we do have to take into account how Karate is typically focused on being a fun activity for kids and preserving tradition (and in a statistically significant number of dojos practiced without sparring 🤮). Don’t get me wrong, I love karate, but I do try to be self aware about it. As for kata I don’t know of it being any better than just doing combinations while moving (things like kihon ido). If I remember correctly there were studies that found that kata isn’t all that helpful, but since I can’t find them, feel free to disregard that point if you want.

  • @mrgsudo

    @mrgsudo

    Жыл бұрын

    One element to take in consideration is that Karate in the US is quite different than Karate everywhere else. When I started in Brazil in the early 90's my sensei was beating my leg with a shinai to correct the posture and we started the class with 80-100 sit ups and 50 push ups and I was 14. You never saw a karateka wear a do-gi other than the traditional white (no multi-color, star and stripes uniforms). Then I moved here and is like Wild West of martial arts where everything goes and was very hard to find a dojo where the sensei was not trying to scam me for money. "want to spar? join the sparring class on Friday, just add 50 bucks to your tuition"! "You have a uniform already? Sorry, you need to use the uniform with our logo on it, just for 100 bucks for this very basic thin do-gi that you can find on amazon for 50 U$". I believe that are very good dojos here, but you need to look through all the BS before find someone legit.

  • @tiagosaraiva102
    @tiagosaraiva102 Жыл бұрын

    Was a Karate practioner its actually refreshing seeing Karate getting a high grade, Karate was also prove itself in MMA and with new Karate Combat league it was show just how effective Karate striking can be while also having some notion of takedows, defending takedows and ground and pound i also think Karate is evolving alot especially beacuse of MMA and because with MMA being the proving grounds for martial arts the ones that dont evolve or refuse to open new horizons will die out, this was been happening all the way back to feudal Japan, i think nowadays there is no reason to learn from other styles and getting out of your confort zone in martial arts, in regards to street fighting i think most martial arts will work.

  • @kevo192000

    @kevo192000

    Жыл бұрын

    Karate is suck

  • @fazares

    @fazares

    Жыл бұрын

    mma is the proving ground for effective martial arts in ring fighting...as u said, most if not every ma will work in a street fight...

  • @eduardocoutochueri9920

    @eduardocoutochueri9920

    Жыл бұрын

    Lyoto Machida

  • @eduardocoutochueri9920

    @eduardocoutochueri9920

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kevo192000 lyoto Machida dont aprove

  • @redrumrabbit

    @redrumrabbit

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eduardocoutochueri9920 Lyoto wouldn't approve of his grammar either.

  • @naruto4526
    @naruto4526 Жыл бұрын

    I wish he ranked the rest of the styles... Was curious to see kudo, kyokushin and sanda

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Жыл бұрын

    These rankings are superb. We hope to see more content like this.

  • @miltonmartinez8434
    @miltonmartinez8434 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, you should have Ryan Hall do the same! I think it would be interesting…

  • @SolidRoach69
    @SolidRoach693 ай бұрын

    Anyone that says Aikido is effective is a Steven Seagull fan

  • @ValeeVMA

    @ValeeVMA

    2 ай бұрын

    He would say f ya, KURVA!

  • @richardletchford1108
    @richardletchford1108 Жыл бұрын

    I don't really care about the grades he gives beyond a generalistic idea, but when he explains his thinking behind it he makes interesting and valid points.

  • @alex-jq5dd
    @alex-jq5dd Жыл бұрын

    it would be interesting to see an akido master vs untrained fighter video to see if it truly is effective in a sparring/fight setting versus someone untrained like jeff said

  • @kieranshepherd6715

    @kieranshepherd6715

    Жыл бұрын

    Lots of videos show it's useless because it relies on people working with you. Some technical moves work with alterations. But not great.

  • @xaviermasse9689

    @xaviermasse9689

    10 ай бұрын

    you guys have no clue. a lot of people in security learn aikido because its very effective to controle people. also, aikikai aikido is very different than aikijutsu/daitoryu aikido. these techniques transitionned from battlefields to kill people, to basically harmony movement/dance but essence is still there. so yeah depends what kind of aikido you learn. Aikido would not be good in mma, but definitely effective in the street, if you don't intend to preserve your opponent like in the dojo

  • @kieranshepherd6715

    @kieranshepherd6715

    10 ай бұрын

    @@xaviermasse9689 dude I'm a martial arts instructor and I've seen enough videos of people who are black belts in aikido get embarrassed when trying to wrist lock some guy punching them in the face. There are a few holds that work but aikido as a form is a waste of time. There's a guy who Hass done videos with Jeff and he used to teach it and stopped when he realized it doesn't work and he got his butt whipped by someone with mild mma experience. You however believe what ever you wish, if you enjoy the training keep training. But don't expect it to work if you need it.

  • @artyomarty391

    @artyomarty391

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kieranshepherd6715 i think the point is that when someone is trying to punch you in the face, aikido wont work. But when someone is idle, not threatening, then aikido can help in securing someones wrist Thats pretty much the only extent to which Aikido is useful. However, this one move of grabbing the wrist, is probably the single most important move of every and any security guard or anyone who wants to de-escalate a situation. Straight up punching someone is often just too much, but restraining someone is professional When I was 14 or something this grown big asian man grabbed both my and my friend's wrist at the same and escorted us out. He controlled my entire body with just a hold of my wrist. I presume this was aikido

  • @christiaan4music
    @christiaan4music Жыл бұрын

    You the man Jeff! MMA analysis, no argument there of course. :) Olny thing in these vids that always comes back is when it comes to self defense....while you need both; strategic decission making trumps technique. Very boring, but if you're not being taught the fundamentals of violence in a classroom setting, you're way behind. Almost all of these martial arts never even touch on that subject. While a lot of the techniques will be the same for a self defense and MMA setting (with the excemption of setting change, multiple attackers, weapons, etc.) strategy between the two couldn't be more apart from each other.

  • @matkasim
    @matkasim6 ай бұрын

    Jeff Chan knows a lot about MA. Spot on

  • @skaeropt
    @skaeropt11 ай бұрын

    What people dont understand is that traditional karate has everything innit, ground, kicks, punches, knees, elbows. Karate is one of the martial arts that has a significant impact on other styles. Many practitioners and martial arts masters incorporated karate techniques and principles into their own systems. For example, Taekwondo, was influenced by karate and incorporates some of its striking techniques, stances, and forms.

  • @ronanboyle2289

    @ronanboyle2289

    5 ай бұрын

    A lot of people don't realise either that katas has elbow strikes knee strikes etc contained in them too

  • @khoalacake
    @khoalacake Жыл бұрын

    IMO for self defense it would be boxing for the punches and footwork, wrestling for takedowns and takedown defense, Muay Thai clinch, elbows, knees, BJJ if you end up on your back. Stay away from kicks above the waist and avoid being too comfortable on your back going for submissions, instead focus on sweeps or standing back up.

  • @innosanto

    @innosanto

    Жыл бұрын

    Judo alsp great

  • @cam-inf-4w5
    @cam-inf-4w5 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video especially the speed round of particulars at the end

  • @TC_Hero7
    @TC_Hero74 ай бұрын

    this is one of the best ranking videos i have ever seen and agree with. Jeff seems really cool and i need to go out and support his fights!

  • @drewgallo6958
    @drewgallo6958 Жыл бұрын

    Wushu Sanshou should be mentioned here its a Chinese Kickboxing combine with takedowns withs strikes. There’s a couple of MMA fighters who is using it (Cung Lee) or team Lakay from the Philippines they’ve produce champions

  • @potatoehead4405

    @potatoehead4405

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah that shit is lame as hell, it’s just kick boxing with wrestling and a bit of bjj lol.

  • @drewgallo6958

    @drewgallo6958

    Жыл бұрын

    @@potatoehead4405 then you should try spar with one. You know its lame or not 😂🤣

  • @Sir_price
    @Sir_price Жыл бұрын

    I used to train for 15 years in a university club at the campus center where there are more than 15 martial art clubs in the complex. I was in the karate club and on many occasions every year we would all gather or go to other arts courses to test and try and a couple of times per year we'd all gather all together. Well I have pretty much the same tier list. Karate elite if there's enough space (until you can catch them and go quickly on the ground).

  • @hihe530
    @hihe530 Жыл бұрын

    turns out Jeff did better on sharing his opinions, This dude is a good teacher to have.

  • @M0n4rc
    @M0n4rc4 ай бұрын

    As a Karate black belt, thank you for understanding the importance of distance management. I've told friends before that karate is good because of the foundation, distance, defense, strong attacks. But there's so much karate hate that its hard for anyone to hear me. I'm not telling anyone to try a full Kata on someone XD, mind your distance and footwork, wait for them to make a mistake, 1 hit KO kick or punch to the face.

  • @OtaniNoAsagi

    @OtaniNoAsagi

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I sometimes dont like telling people I took Karate not because I'm not proud of what training i got but I just dont want to deal with the hate. I dont where or why people underestimate it so much. Maybe Hollywood is part of the reason? It'd make sense that's where a lot of the Katana hate stems from I noticed.

  • @yeetman9892
    @yeetman989210 ай бұрын

    on the streets everything is all fun and games until they pull out the glock

  • @maxfoth2
    @maxfoth2 Жыл бұрын

    interesting video, Jeff is knowledgeable and insightful as always, but I'm disappointed that there was a little icon for Sanda but you never asked him about it, regardless its a fun video

  • @LeonidZ1988
    @LeonidZ1988Ай бұрын

    the most effective art in a street fight is running

  • @GibboEditz
    @GibboEditz Жыл бұрын

    When Jeff says Taekwondo would be flashy, and don't have there guard up and over all not effective by it's self, I can totally agree with him if he was only talking about World Taekwondo, There is a style/federation in Taekwondo called "ITF Taekwondo", and it is way more effective then people think. In ITF Taekwondo the sparring is basically Kickboxing just a bit more fancy kicks, they punch to the head, and have there guard up. Outside of sparring there is takedowns, elbow strikes, a little bit of knee strikes, and knowing how to get out of a headlock. ITF Taekwondo was the older style of Taekwondo made by Choi Hong Hi, He made Taekwondo for war and he used to kill people with the Taekwondo, because ITF Taekwondo has a lot of Tang Soo Do techniques like chokes and stuff like that. I would agree if someone only did WT Taekwondo all by it's self in MMA/Street fight which wouldn't be the best option, but ITF taekwondo would be actually up there with karate.

  • @blackholesix

    @blackholesix

    Жыл бұрын

    This 👍🏼

  • @OneFromEasternFinland
    @OneFromEasternFinland Жыл бұрын

    6:31 actually, ninjutsu is an umbrella term, not a single martial art. Yes, there are weapon techniques, such as shurikenjutsu (which is about throwing those stars or shurikens) - but the unarmed combat is actually called taijutsu

  • @AkashiroNota

    @AkashiroNota

    Жыл бұрын

    This exactly. Bujikan taijutsu is basically judo + bjj and it is definitely not something people should underestimate, Genbukan on the other hand feels like combat aikido. I trained both for a long time, also trained BJJ for few months and sticked with Bujinkan.

  • @frost8077

    @frost8077

    Жыл бұрын

    His ranking is still accurate though. Most of the moves would be banned in MMA since taijutsu is mostly joint breaks and other lethal strikes.

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