Of all the saws you showed I STILL cannot find the one I'm looking for! Back in the 80's I worked with some friends in their jewelry business, and got to use one a lot, and I wish I could find another saw like I used then. The problem with all the jeweler saws I can find now, none of them have the capability of rotating the blade 90° so I can cut deeper than the throat depth. The saws we had had a removable clamp on the top that you could remove and turn 90°, re-insert it in the frame, the clamp on the bottom was a part of the handle, you would take the wing nut screw off, take the handle out and turn it, re-insert it, put the clamp back together. Now the frame was sideways and I could make long cuts. Do you know of one?

@roberts_and_co

2 ай бұрын

Hi @longbowshooter5291, it sounds like you're looking for a very specific type of jeweler's saw with a feature that allows for greater flexibility in cutting, particularly with the ability to rotate the blade 90°. This feature is indeed useful for bypassing the throat depth limitation of standard jeweler's saws, allowing for longer, uninterrupted cuts. The saw you described sounds like it had a very unique design, especially with the removable and rotatable clamp features. Today, some modern jeweler's saw frames offer similar functionality but might be marketed differently or have undergone design changes. One such saw that might meet your needs is the Knew Concepts saws, which are known for their innovative designs and high quality. They offer saws with tensioning systems and blade clamps that can be adjusted, potentially allowing for the kind of orientation change you're looking for. Another option could be to look for vintage tools from the '80s that match the description of what you used previously. Sometimes, specific models from past decades can still be found through online marketplaces like eBay, Etsy, or in specialized tool shops that deal with vintage jewelry making tools. If those options don’t seem to work, you might consider reaching out to custom tool makers who could potentially recreate the saw frame you're describing. Custom fabrications could be a bit more expensive but would ensure you get exactly what you need for your specific jewelry-making requirements. I hope this helps, and you find the perfect saw frame for your projects! If you need more specific recommendations or further assistance, feel free to ask.

@longbowshooter5291

2 ай бұрын

@@roberts_and_co Thank you kindly for you response, it was very kind of you to take the time to do this. I checked the Knew Concept ones, and, yes, there IS a coping saw variety that allows for 360° rotation of the blade, and it is a 6.5" blade with the pins on the ends - not a "jewelers blade" per se, plus it's a fixed frame/non-adjustable frame. I'm surprised no one makes that style, it allowed you to saw long pieces (as long as it didn't exceed the throat depth) by easily turning the blade sideways. Can you picture this?: Picture the two parts of the frame minus the clamps and handle, at the ends of the frames where the clamps are picture a 3/8th' x 3/8th' square loop at the top clamp area and the handle area. The top clamp is two pieces, the main body and the clamping piece, with a winged screw to hold them together (like you'd clamp the blade in with), the main body is square with a cap (think a letter T) that slides into the square loop, and the clamping pice is screwed on to hold it in place. The handle has a metal square body section and it slides into the lower square loop, and the clamping piece is screwed in, holding the handle in place. Can you see how convenient that would be? Hey, if you decide to make your own and sell them and make a million, remember an old guy told ya about 'em! LOL

Thank you for your helpful video. I am actually using the traditional one and love it. However, afert. Only some months I experience that when I want to cut a straight line that it always does cut to the left side in about a 30 degree angle. I am very perplexed by it, tested all the saw blades and can't explain why this is happening suddenly (I am a beginner but riles sawing a lot and have been good at straight lines). Now I heard you mentioning that you always loaded your saw frame in an angle to the bench, so did I all the time these months. Do you think it's possible that this already has led to a misalignment of the saw frame? I now have to hold it in this 30 angle to left to have line cut straight and I can see that it isn't aligned anymore and yet it drives me mad that one day to another after months it seems suddenly changed. Maybe you have some insights 😮

@roberts_and_co

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for reaching out and sharing your experience with your traditional saw frame. I'm glad to hear that our video was helpful to you! Regarding the issue you're facing with cutting straight lines, it's quite common for beginners to encounter such challenges. The problem of the saw veering to one side, as you've described, could be due to several factors. It's unlikely that holding your saw frame at an angle has caused a permanent misalignment, especially if it was working fine for several months. Here are a few things you might want to check: Blade Installation: Ensure that the saw blade is installed correctly with the teeth pointing downwards and outwards. An incorrectly installed blade can often cause the saw to drift. Tension: Check the tension of the blade. If it's too loose, it can wander or twist while cutting. Technique: Your sawing technique plays a crucial role. Ensure that you're not applying too much lateral pressure and that your movements are consistent and straight. Wear and Tear: Regular use can cause subtle wear on the frame or the blade. Inspect your tools for any signs of bending or damage. Practice: As you're still in the learning phase, it's important to continue practicing. Over time, you'll develop a feel for the right amount of pressure and movement. If you've checked these and the problem persists, it might be worth having an experienced jeweler take a look at your saw frame to identify any potential issues. Keep practicing, and don't get discouraged - sawing is a skill that improves over time. Let us know if you have any more questions! Best regards,

Hello mate👋 I’m curious do you happen to remember what piercing saw was the $800 dollar one?

@roberts_and_co

3 ай бұрын

Yes, the Knew Concepts Mk.4 Die Saw 203mm/8" Deep with 2 Dovetail Clamps is currently priced at £883.55 from Cookson Gold UK.

Your bench is sooooo low! I suppose that is how you learned but it is so bad for your posture and you can't possibly be comfortable. Your work should be at your eyes level, especially when sawing.

@roberts_and_co

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your concern, @ivafrosh7675! Comfort and posture at the bench are indeed paramount for any craftsman. You see, I'm six foot one and I'm tons of fun, and I dress to a tee, which means I've tailored my bench height to fit me perfectly. It might look low in the video, but it's set up to ensure that my work is at or just below eye level when I'm seated, keeping my back straight and my posture in check. This setup helps me maintain precision in my sawing without compromising on comfort. It's all about finding that sweet spot that suits your body's needs, and I've spent quite some time adjusting my space to find mine. Appreciate your input, and I'm all for a discussion on ergonomics in the workshop!