thats some advanced level cutting skills dude.. now I am intimidated...

Wow thanks for posting this!! I am ready to upgrade my saw. I had planned on getting the green lion but after watching this.. it is worth the investment to me to go with the new concepts! So glad I "SAW" this video! 😜

Thank you for taking the time to educate us. Cheers.

Thank you for the review. I haven't used it yet because I have been concentrating on soldering, but I purchased the Knew Concepts saw and I was looking forward to hearing what you thought of it. I'm happy I made a good choice.

Thank you , Randy for making this ! I know it is not an easy thing to make , and I want you to know how much I appreciate your efforts. CHEERS FROM CALIFORNIA !

Thanks for the video Randy!

Thank you very much! Confirms what I thought and personally experienced. Great vid! 👍💕

Excellent video thank you for all the information

Now I have to make my own. Excellent review.

This is helpful! 👍🏽 Thank you! 😊

Thanks for this really helpful comparison of jewelery saws. I have decided on the Knew Concepts saw because of its lightness and I don't need anything that is going to over-stress my hands. You're very helpful!

@GomeowCreations

4 жыл бұрын

No problem and I'm happy to be of help😄👍

Thanks for sharing this

You can build up the handle with some tape to make it thicker.

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This was very helpful! I must say that my hands are smaller and the Green Lion frame is not very comfortable for me to hold; it rubs on the inside of my bony thumb and seems to be in the way a lot, so I've always opted to fall back on my cheaper intro. German saw. I just received the Knew Concepts as a gift and am eager to work with it - so this was great, thanks a lot for posting.

Hi. Very nice video. Thank you for sharing this with us. I own two German-style saw frames and I also have the exact Knew Concept Saw from your video. In my opinion, yes, Knew Concept is better but if I need to do many small design cuts and I need to constantly release the top of the blade so I can move to the next hole, the German-style is a bit better. Knew Concept is not as robust in time. I use it to do long cuts with many left-right changes in direction and is very good at that. But if I will do the flower that you cut there, then I will go with the German-style one in the long run. I think if you want to do things right you will need a minimum of 3 different saw frames. I own two (not identical) german style saw frames and the Knew Concept. I use all of them almost every day. I am also curious about the Green Lion because I heard good things about it.

Thank you for a wonderful demo. You went through a lot of sawing to show us the results, and that is very much appreciated! I think for the handle, maybe some foam padding - Home Depot has this sticky back foam tubing for handles, or make a new on on a lathe, or rubber dip them till they get thick as you need. Liquid rubber in any color. Great for comfort. I have not used it yet so theorizing. The 'German Style' saw is made in India. The blade bundle that it comes with is very defective. 2 pages of 1-star reviews on Amazon. The saw is shipped missing parts, the blades are rusty, the saw breaks, the blades snap easily, and so on. I would not buy that as per reviews. We all know that quality control does not exist in some countries. This is poor quality steel as well. The German one in aluminum looks very enticing! Note that Amazon does not have the best price for these saws, but Otto Frei does!

Excellent video! I have a basic saw frame but now I know that if I were to upgrade I would have to go for the Knew Concepts because just knowing that you have to use your hand to set the tension on the Green lion puts me right off! Clearly it's not designed for a woman with small hands. So thanks for showing the differences :)

@GomeowCreations

4 жыл бұрын

No problem and yeah you can set the other saws without using just one hand by pushing it against the work bench. That being said I would just get whatever makes things easiest for you. 😊👍

I have made jewelry since 1973 and only used the German saw frame. I just ordered a Green Lion frame so watched this video to see what your thoughts were. But, I wouldn't say a German saw frame was an entry level saw frame or a beginner saw frame, I've used one for lots of intricate work for well over 40 years. Thanks for your thoughts.

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

When I say entry level I more mean the price. You can get one for under $20, so someone just starting out that doesn't know if they what to do this or not will not be out very much money to give it a try.

Randy, as usual, great video! I must say, you are a glutton for punishment, re: those designs to pierce! I'd love that as I do enjoy sawing. Thank you! Basia (Stardustmine- shoutout!!!) sent me to this video of yours. Great video, always enlightening and we'll made!

@GomeowCreations

3 жыл бұрын

😁

If your hand isn’t big enough for the green lion, you just lean on it like the old school way. You just don’t do it too hard, so you don’t break your blades. Same as the old school style. It’s not more likely to break the blades than the old school way. The difference between the New Concepts frame and the others is there is no flexibility in the frame. Less blade breakage is what they claim. It’s light for less hand strain, it’s not cheep, the holes in the aluminum frame is to make it even lighter. Too bad all your sawing is sped up. Can’t see them at work.

Randy, Great video! I have a 3" and 5" basic German saws. I seem to avoid sawing because I invariably break blades in the turns and curves. I am using Rio Grande basic blades. I am going to try your recommendation of the Flash blades. I am sure it is my skill level as well. I need to practice more. It just gets expensive when you break blades. My question is: Have you or anyone else out there used the New Concepts saw with swivel option? How well does it work? Does it make the change of direction and turns easier with less breakage and hand tension? It is expensive so I wanted to get opinion before I invest. Thanks.

@GomeowCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Get some of these blades bit.ly/NANOSawBlades they work really well and I haven't had a problem wit them. I haven't used the saw you are asking about but I don't see too much use for it too be honest.

The only thing I could see the need for a deeper frame is if you are cutting sheet for bracelets. If that were the case and I were doing several a year I would invest in a shear. I like my Green Lion.I couldn't wait for your review so I bought one and retired my German . lol

@GomeowCreations

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry about the late video 😅 I hurt my hand and after that healed I was doing some work for DC Comics for something at is the San Diego Comic Con.

@FatKidBrody

5 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations No need to apologize Randy. I am just impatient sometimes. I hope the hand is 100%. Sorry to hear that you hurt it.

@Dan-ji4db

5 жыл бұрын

Heyyyyy alright! Been waiting for this one. I got the 5" kc saw and love it.

Hi There , If I want to use only one type of blade saw ,which one should I go for it ? Thanks

@GomeowCreations

4 жыл бұрын

I use 3/0 or 2/0 for most of my work. 😄

All I can say is good for the makers new concept saw. I don't begrudge anyone from the open market what ever the market can bear. With that said, I will never buy such an expensive saw when there a less expensive saws out here. Such if you make the money to throw at this expensive saw, go for it. It's not that much better the many of the other saws out here. I own a Germans jewelers saw and green lion the only difference is comfort for me and price point. The green lion is much more comfortable in the handle. The handle is the difference. If I had any influence I would ask the other company's to change the handle. I paid no where near $45 for mine. But I shop around to.

disagree I have all 3 and prefer the Green Lion.. Haven't broken a blade.. love the handle and attaching the blade, old way against my bench, isn't a problem.. 79 years old.. small hands and Green Lion is the best

How thick piece of brass would be possible/effective to cut with a jewelers saw? Would 3 mm be possible?

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you could cut 3mm brass you just want to use the right saw blade and it's going to take some time to get done.

@marcuslewitzki4610

2 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations Time is of no concern. Which type of sawblade should I get?

What is the wooden thing your resting the work on when cutting?

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

That is a bench pin, here is a link to one amzn.to/3HxK5SQ

@trafficface

2 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations hope it's an affiliate link, thanks buddy!

@trafficface

2 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations oh damn not available in UK

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

Give me a sec and I will get you one in the uk

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

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I keep breaking my sawblades! I need a new saw frame and several sizes of blades or a different brand.

If you want you can spent thousands of dollars in tools and stuff. If you are skilled there is no need for a $80 bucks saw frame but cool factor is 👍🏻

@GomeowCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you can do the same work with just a standard German style frame and they all use the same blades but there are things that make these more convenient than just and economy saw frame. Like quick and easy blade tensioning, better ergonomics and lighter weight. Like you said this isn't needed but it makes things more comfortable. 😁👍

@andijvie3119

3 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations Yep, the Knew concept is the LV of saw frames 😄

Wondering why you dodged reviewing the Grobet saw, which is lighter than anything else on the table. It requires a certain level of attention but is far easier to use all day long.

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

Dodging? I have never even heard of that saw. 😅

@paulwiggins183

2 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations I bought mine some years ago... it is in the Rio Grande catalogue, referred to as a Swiss product. And very simple compared to the KNEW saw. Used mine almost every day for ten years. Appreciative of the fact that you cover the subject of sawing... it is an easy place for the beginner to be discouraged and is generally sort of glossed over. A vital piece of equipment.

Why did they call it The green lion and when it should be called the black lion it’s black not green, LOL just saying Thank you for the share I did enjoy the video the above paragraph is just a joke by the way looking forward to your next video.

I have a Knew Concepts and I hate it. The bottom part (silver part broke) and they did send me a new part free of charge. It is a pain in the neck to place the blade in too. Also, you have to be exact in how low or high you put the blade. For the price I paid, it's not worth it. It may just be me, but I did not like it.

You get what you pay for !

what a worthless conclusion

@GomeowCreations

2 жыл бұрын

They are all saw frames that will hold a saw blade a cut. They all have different weights, small features and price points. Like anything the choice is to ng to be up to you what one would work best for you and you needs.

Swiss style frames have always been the best frames. Those Knew Concept frames are ridiculously bulky and are mainly used by rookie hobbyist!