Another fantastic review, Pete! Thanks for bringing such information packed content on this series.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! At least now you might be confused on a deeper level! Lol

Excellent series Pete! Thank you ! After watching your videos with the guys going down the Namekagon River and the St Croix, I'm gearing up to take a trip next fall on both rivers . All your info is greatly appreciated! Thanks again ! 👍🏼👍🏼💪💪👍🏼👍🏼

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Tomtank and thanks! Keep us posted on that one! Id like to see a vid on your trip!

@riverkingbrian9264

4 жыл бұрын

It's a great run- we're not used to "state maintained" campsites, but got a little spoiled on that run!!

@MrTank316

4 жыл бұрын

River King Brian the sites are nicely taken care of. A friend of mine up in Hayward takes care of them, we're very lucky ! 👍🏼

Right on time Pete! Great review, I'm really wanting a tarp with doors now I'll put it on my wishlist.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks PCF!

Might have to pick up one of these. Great vid River Kings

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks AWAC!

You’re going to want to check out the Warbonnet Tsunami. It was just released and it’s a hammock tarp that goes all the way to the ground. And is setup to be a hot tent as well. That may be your magic bullet.

@RiverKingsKayak

2 жыл бұрын

I saw that!! Trying to get my hands on one

Ok....I'm really digging this tarp! Great point about the grograin seam on top. I understand what you mean... that would drive me nuts....like a crooked sticker on a window. Excellent review!

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tracy! I thought you might like this one!

@rubberduckproducktions532

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiverKingsKayak yes! And ive already been to the website. I like the room the buttons and functionality of it in general. Of course, mine will have quite a bit larger air gap around the bottom than most people because of my height, but it seems manageable.

@iowamatt2519

4 жыл бұрын

@@rubberduckproducktions532 I went to the website as well, lots of options to choose from, but gets pricey by the time u get what u want.

@rubberduckproducktions532

4 жыл бұрын

@@iowamatt2519 yeah, after i got to the end, i was at 164, but i didnt add in guy lines, etc.

If you are snow camping you dig out the area where your hammock is going to you can drop it down further giving you more head room, , then put your tarp up, so the sides are closer to the natural snow level , then back fill all the sides with the snow you threw out. I also have the Warbonnet spindrift , which is a bivy that zips up around my Hammock. Between that and my Chill Gorilla tarp, I am comfortable down to about 5 degrees outside. Lets be honest, any colder than that and you have to cover your face to keep from getting frostbite , and sleeping like that.... well it's not very comfortable . I will say that I have slept in snow storms several times and snow will blow in your tarp with high winds no matter what you do, so a bivy that goes around your bag like the Spindrift is key. Best of luck.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Good points. I have camped well below 5 though by using the woobie over the ridgeline trick to keep your heat on you. Thanks Outdoors PD!

@Tethysmeer

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiverKingsKayak sorry, what's this woobie trick?

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tethysmeer kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJaultRveqXbj84.html

Thanks for a great comprehensive series of winter tarp reviews. On this tarp, what are your thoughts on the guy outs only being made from the edge tape. Do you think they have the strength and longevity of other guy outs such as the ones from WB or HG? Also, an included option for this tarp is either a center pole or end pole configuration; could you review those at some point? Lastly, this tarp is rated at 2000mm HH, some of the others are either at 2000mm or 1500mm. Is there a discernible field difference in these ratings? Thanks

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Good points. The guy outs being made from the edge tape may even be stronger. The other tarps guy outs are basically grosgrain sewn onto a little patch of reinforcement that is sewn into the tarp and existing edgetape. In fact, the WB does not have edge tape except at the guy out corners - just sewn edges. The UGQ employs a one-piece style construction of that guy out. In other words, The edgetape or grosgrain is a continuous loop and actually doubled in the guy out area. There will be no force or stress on any of the tarp fabric in that area at all. As for the waterproofing, For a 2000mm waterproofing, there would need to be a water column of 2000mm tall or roughly 3.3psi to induce leaking. It is a tricky metric for sure. However, the more the better obviously, but I dont think you would see any discernible difference between the two. Good questions...You should ask them before the review as they would make my review better! LOL Thanks Scott!

Definitely like the buttons on the tarp. Not sure how easy that would be when you are out in temps below 20° though. Have you ever checked out the tato tarp connectors. I've been using mine for about 2 years now and they still work great. Lightweight and makes for adjusting where you want the tarp a breeze. I run a solid ridgeline under my tarp also and use short shock cord at my stakes with tarp flyz.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Have not used the tatos. I have not had issues even into the teens. I like the sounds of your setup

@payakadventures

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiverKingsKayak It's a work in progress. My wife thinks I have a gear addiction. I keep telling I "need" all this stuff. Lol. At least the kids get the hand me downs. My son and I just went backpacking this weekend in Ohiopyle. Went down to 15°. My body wasn't ready for that. Now I'm heading to Gatlinburg for the weekend to hike with my wife. Hope it's warmer there.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

@@payakadventures right on! It's one of the fun things about it. It's always a work in progress and there's always something new

Nice review. I've been eyeballing those tarps for a while. Regarding a ground seal, ever consider just hanging your hammock lower? When I'm in heavy wind, I usually hang lower to avoid the wind. It also reduces air flow under the hammock (with or without a tarp). I've used an old Jacks-R-Better 10X11 on some gusty cold nights on Mt. Rogers, Linville Gorge and Roan Mountain. Then again, i try to use foliage and terrain to take most of the beating.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes sir! I do all those things as well. I just love the extra headroom. They are nice!

@wisenber

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiverKingsKayak I accidentally packed my Noah 9 for a Linville Gorge hang last month. It rained 3 inches in one night. Took a little work to stay dry on my 11' hammock with a diamond pitch. That's the problem with having too many tarps. You lose track of what's in the stuff sack.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

@@wisenber 🤣 indeed!!! But what a great story!! Ive been there before myself!

Very nice tarp for sure! Great review too!

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks KW! Have been enjoying the hunt btw!

@KentuckyWoodsman

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Glad you are enjoy it.

Good Morning everyone

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Morning Matt

Have you done a video on adding the snaps to the doors of your other tarps?

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Not yet. Great suggestion.

1000 sleeps talk to us if you can beat that . Thanks for the review

@RiverKingsKayak

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Parker!

I think this could be done by simply adding a 2ish ft vertical side and end wall that is non-structual and leave the guy outs where they are. Then put tent stake loops on the bottom. It's just like a canvas wall tent. I have been wanting the same thing for years. I have had the winter dream 12 for years and love it but...

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Im with ya Brad!!

How about a video on how you seen seal your tarps

@RiverKingsKayak

3 жыл бұрын

great idea Chris!

I really like this tarp best of the series, but come on UGQ lets make this in a wider version. Winter tarps should be at least 14 wide.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@johnrammel6258

4 жыл бұрын

Hitting a 14' width in these fabrics is not practical. The widest silpoly is only 72" and without seams on side panels that will likely create weak spots when exposed to winter weather conditions (typically stronger winds, snow loads, ice, etc). Look at the kelty Noah tarps.. lots of failures along the side seams.

@iowamatt2519

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnrammel6258 That's where the manufacturers need to step up and produce wider.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

I understand the argument. I just refuse to accept other's parameters on this one. This can be done. Have had a Kelty for many years with no failures...also look at the EE Paladin construction. They incorporate a side seam but no Ridgeline seam. This can be done with any of these heavier Denier tarps but leave the bottom fabric the full 60" instead of 30" and there you go! I may have to have one built. The kelty 16 has given me many years of faithful service leak and issue free. I have hundreds of winter nights under my Kelty 16 tarp that is still kicking strong. With any tarp, minding the winter accumulation must be done regardless of the material and design. One can only dream.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Those fabrics exist. They are just more expensive for the tarp builders to get in.

Since you have used the Superfly, Winter Dream, and Journey, I am wondering which of the three you thought was the best, or which of the 3 you prefer to use? I have narrowed my search down to those three, and they are all very similar and similarly priced.

@RiverKingsKayak

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jesse! I definitely like the Winterdream the best. They are all fantastic tarps but I found myself preferring the Winterdream. To me it was the highest quality build, the sil-poly is far superior when dealing with a wet tarp and packing. It has the snaps to close off all airflow on the doors. Things are all just in the right place.

@JesseGebauer

3 жыл бұрын

@@RiverKingsKayak Appreciate the reply and the videos Pete, thank you!

Are there weight limits on some hammocks, being that I'm a bigger dude. I don't want to falling to the ground while sleeping..lol

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

There are. You are also pretty tall. With any of the higher quality companies, there are options to get one sized correctly for you.

My Grandma is thinking about getting into hammock camping against my advice. Let's just say at her age she has a slight leakage problem. (I'm being discreet, bless her heart). Can you recommend a good moisture wicking set of granny panties? We'd be happy to order through your Amazon link.

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@michaelhorn9114

4 жыл бұрын

She should be fine hammock camping, BUT, it all DEPENDS!!!

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Can you use this with a Amok lay flat hammock?

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Not totally sure of coverage requirements as I've never owned or used an Amok.

@vincentflauto7650

4 жыл бұрын

@@RiverKingsKayak i think the 20 footer should be fine

Can i buy this item at shopee?

@RiverKingsKayak

3 жыл бұрын

Just click the UGQ link know the video description...it will take you to their store

Great review, but they better be good for the price , whole moly

@RiverKingsKayak

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks KMT! They are nice.

great videos. thank you.. but the music.. a bit annoying. lol

@RiverKingsKayak

3 жыл бұрын

Lol! Thanks! I get that sometimes! Can't make everyone happy...lol