You have the most informitiv videos about the i512600!! I wachted like 10 other videos before and you managed it to bring everything on point!!

All your videos are absolutely incredible. Its almost a shame i dont build PCs more frequently, this curated information is outstanding.

Excellent video with thorough technical information.

I rarely comment on yt but this video really helped me to build my next pc, thanks & keep up the good work!

Grt detailed info. Thank you

Timey information for me. I had not considered using a K chip, since I wasn't interested in overclocking. Thanks for sharing.

very informative and a good guide also as reference ...thank you

Amazing content as always!

This is really good information in easily understandable language as well.👍👍

Super Explanation I have ever heard about i5.

Very informative

dont understand why you dont have more subscribers. the highly specific information you provide is probably even better than the mainstream tech channels out there who are mostly sold out to sponsors. Also, in our country the difference between 12400 and 12600 is 140$

@truptipanigrahi3016

Жыл бұрын

yea i am very sad. most clear info on cpus and mobos.

@truptipanigrahi3016

Жыл бұрын

may be he need to dressup well with nice backgrounds

N1 information from you. Thank you

I have been following your channel for not more than a month but from the 1st video I knew these are well researched. I just upgraded my pc from 1st Gen ryzen 1400 to 12th gen i7 12700. I was under tight budget and was confused about what motherboard I should use. You best B660 motherboards guide helped me n i bought MSI PRO B660M A WiFi. Keep up the good work. Even if you have less followers or view count, know that there are people out there who watch your channel and make decisions based on what you say. Thank you

@himanshuji492

2 жыл бұрын

Please tell other pc components you bought it will really help me i am considering same cpu and MB

@WeskerAyush

2 жыл бұрын

@@himanshuji492 Sorry for such late reply. I just upgraded my CPU and Motherboard that I mentioned. With that I bought Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240. My old components are 450W PSU and 1060 6GB and Antec P8 Case which I will be upgrading in near future. My plans are Case- Corsair 4000D airflow GPU- 3060Ti 850W PSU

@himanshuji492

Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy.

Really helped I might cop a 12600KF!

Excellent channel, thank you! I chose the i5-12600KF with 3060ti and hope it wasn't a mistake. No going back, we'll see...

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

It's a really potent combination, and the nice thing about Alder Lake i5 is that you really can't go wrong. There are no bad buys.

Good thing you’ve mentioned 12500 & 12600 sometimes being cheaper than 12400 because of stock issues, cause I went and checked and that’s exactly what happened to me. Recently 12400’s price went through the roof, while 12500 was crawling downwards. And I haven’t noticed that. So I can SAVE money and buy a better processor. Thanks!

I love your videos, if you upload at least 2 videos every week, you channel will grow very soon, probably you can touch million subscribers,much love

Was lucky to get a 12 600k cheap (almost 100$ discount) , ballistix kit 2 x 8, 3600hz, artic freezer 34 esport, and that msi pro b660m-a motherboard you guys recommended. Love it. ❤️

@dimm7448

2 жыл бұрын

Why someone would sell a 12600k latest processor during supply chain problems era on 100$ discount?

@nikolajhansen9029

2 жыл бұрын

@@dimm7448 It might have been an error, since the price changed the day after. I was about to order the 12400f when I came across the "offer"

good video

Just put together i5-12600k, msi z690 mag tomahawk, msi suprim x 3070 and scythe fuma 2 rev.b cooler £925, upgraded from 1070,i5-8600k, could’ve gotten i7-12700k but felt it’s not necessary for gaming and I can just get i7-13700k in a few years if I need more performance

If doing editing then 12500 might be bit better than 12400, since iirc the 12500 is the cheapest CPU with 2 Multi-Format Codec Engines (don't know how much it helps) & UHD 770 iGPU while the 12400 has only 1 MFC Engine & UHD 730 iGPU.

@mattscomp

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. This is why I chose the 12500. Where I live they cost within only 15 to 20 dollars. The 12400 I mean is hardly any cheaper.

@y_zass

Жыл бұрын

@@mattscomp Same here! When I purchased my i5 12500 it was only $2 more than the 12400 lol. I have a GPU and I still got it. The 12400F is too risky for me. I don't want my PC to turn into a paperweight if my GPU fails OR if I want to sell it and use the money towards a new one.

@mattscomp

Жыл бұрын

@@y_zass $2 for the better UHD 👍 You would be crazy or uninformed to not take that deal right? And you're right about graphics output too. Even if it costs an extra 50 bucks over the F version it's excellent value for that advantage. The old saying it's better to have a gun and not need it. Than need a gun and not have it. The gun meaning IGP of course...

Thanks for the excellent video. I was considering the 12600K; but at its price point it now makes more sense to save up a bit of cash and buy the 12700F instead. Or, alternatively, it had occurred to me to go for an 12400F, which certainly seems decent, use that until Raptor Lake hits and see if I could buy a 12700F at a discount, or even buy a 13th generation cpu. (I'm still running an old 2500K with an Asus P67 Sabertooth motherboard! Time for an upgrade)

@lotusroot4087

2 жыл бұрын

the 12700k is like 180 dollars more where i am from, seems like the 12600k is the best deal at least where i live

@minedustry

2 жыл бұрын

I just got a 12500 on sale

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Considering that Raptor lake is not only going to get higher frequencies, but that each i-series cpu across the line is going to get more cores, I think its best to just buy the cheapest i5 12400f and then wait to buy the i7 13700f when it comes out.

@multiicore_

2 жыл бұрын

@@lotusroot4087 the 12700f is cheaper than the k

@t5kcannon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Yes, that's a sensible way forward.

Excellent video! What RAM speed and brand would you recommend for a 12400 + b660m-plus asus tuf setup? Mostly for simple 4k video editing and casual gaming

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

You can't go wrong with 3200MHz CL16, cheap, decent performance and no issues with compatibility at xmp. Brand doesn't really matter too much, it's all the same chips underneath. Buy on price and timings.

Very insightful video! Just a question, can I use Resizable Bar (SAM) with the i5 12400 and a Radeon RX 5700 XT? Or should I upgrade into Ryzen 5 5600X?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can use resizeable BAR with intel CPU/AMD GPU, just be aware it may not increase performance in all cases and can harm performance in some games!

great

Do a one for i7 on b660 boards

i have i5 12400f. is it good? what gpu is good for i5 12 400f?

there is also new i5 12490f black edition its available in asia, china and philippines

Great video - I love this channel! I have a few questions: So it is perfectly reasonable to pair an i7-12700 with a B660 motherboard? If Intels powers requirements can't be trusted, where do I find out what PSU to use for my build? Will pcpartpicker take this into account when calculating the expected wattage?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, an i7-12700 paired with a good B660 board is the sleeper-powerhouse of the Alderlake generation. You need a B660 with solid VRMs and power limits lifted to obtain full performance from the CPU. That's where the power requirements matter - the Motherboard power delivery to the CPU. In reality, any reasonable PSU will power an i7-12700 just fine. We include peak all core power levels in our CPU reviews, and so do a lot of other outlets like Gamers Nexus, Anandtech and others. Our builds over on buildpicker.com take this information into account to ensure you get great CPU and motherboard pairings, and PSUs that are up to the job as well!

@kangrossi

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker i have question.. right now I am using Ryzen 5600x + B550M + RTX 3060 Ti + 16GB 3600 DDR4 Planning upgrade to i7 12700 & add more 16GB RAM for heavy photo editing in LR, is the MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 good enough?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

@@kangrossi Yes, that's a really solid board, so long as it has the USB rear IO you need, it's a good option and will run that CPU well.

Extremely informational.

Can you do review for asrock steel legend please

Please tell me that i5-12500 + msi pro 660 vs i5-12600k which you recommend for overall good. Take love 😘💞

Thank you for your informative video. I wish you would have touched on the H0 (SRL5Y) and C0 (SRL4W) variants of the i5 versions, especially 12400. Sources say the C0 variant use more power when idle. And I find it problematic if true. Do you have any information about it?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

Well, I don't really consider that an issue: I've never found more than one source for the information re idle power consumption, and that source I'm not sure of their methodology. I think that it's actually a non-issue as I've never seen any complaints or problem with it in the 'real world'.

@OptLab

Жыл бұрын

​@@BuildPicker Reassuring. So your i5 srl4w idles under 10w in balance or especially power saving ? I might buy one then :]

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

@@OptLab Yeah, it idles at 10W or so. No issues at all.

Recently discovered your channel, thanks for making such great videos. Would you mind me asking me for a little advice? I am planning to build a new PC for coding, multitasking on Linux and casual gaming on windows. Is i5 12400 good enough with MSI Pro b660 A mobo + 3060? I can extend my budget for better performance to avoid upgrading again in 2 - 3 years but at the same time don't want to build something where the power will not be utilize most of the time. Thanks in advance!

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that will be a strong performer and great all rounder!

@deep3190

Жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker Thanks for your reply. Do you think the base frequency of 12400 @2.5Ghz can be a downside for gaming? Instead is it worth using 12600K @3.7Ghz with b660 mobo?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

@@deep3190 No, the base frequency is just a minimum guaranteed frequency. It will always boost way above that when under any load. Disregard base frequency figures, they're not useful!

Super useful videos and the way you bring this info ro us is very easy and understandable. Mind me asking you for little advice. I setting new system MSI mortar B660 DDR4+12600K+32 GB 3200+1.5 tb ( 2 x m.2e) and 2 old HDD( 1 tb +5oo gb) +card my from 3 years old RTX 2080 OC 8gb....and i want to stick with Coolermaster Thunder 600 watt PSU. You think it will be ok with that PSU ? ALso MB have 2x 8 pin CPU power ports but most PSU only have one 8 pin CPU Power cable is it ok to use just one ? Thank you in advance

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

PSU should be fine, it's mainly the GPU you want to account for. Yes, a single 8 pin is just fine, the additional socket is just marketing in almost all situation,s only extreme Overclocks of the most power hungry CPus would need it.

@TheSaju90

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker thank you so much , i was worried i got to buy new psu and it will go over my current budget. Thank you again. Continiue do what you doing the best!!!

@ajxx9987

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSaju90 how is the pc doing?

@TheSaju90

Жыл бұрын

@@ajxx9987 great, very happy with choices also took bequite 500 pure case, stylish, steady, practical config and quite )

Why are there so few H670 motherboard choices? I want to build a MSFS 2020 rig with an i7-12700 CPU, but want the most PCIe lanes for all the I/O that goes along with flight simulators. Or should I just go with a Z690 even though I won't overclock?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

Realistically, H670 is a no-mans land which is why we see so few options. B660 does everything you could reasonably need, Z690 has the over-the-top specification with everything you could want. H670 has a few tweaks, but in reality offers neither the value of B660 (from a board makers perspective) nor the all out approach of Z690.

Those are prices on paper. The real price differences are much higher and today prices are 12400: 200€, 12600 250€, 12600k 305€, 12700 365€ Therefore 12400 too weak for me 12600 not worth the difference, 12700 overkill and expensive, so I have decided on 12600k (with b660 no intentions for overclocking)

make same video on i3

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

There isn't much to talk about with the i3! You get the i3-12100 if you need a GPU on the CPU, or the i3-12100F if you're on a budget and have a separate graphics card!

i have a question ❓ If u can plz ans I jave i5 12400 Gtx 1060 6gb Gskill 8*8 16gb Msi spatium ssd gen 3 Gamdius 600w psu Mouse a4yech p91 (very lower mouse) Monitor lgmk600 75hz I play only Apex legends So which part should i upgrade first for better gaming performance?

You can overclock the crap out of the IGPU on the 12600K

Can a 12400 work well with a 3070? If so what motherboard would be a good option?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

Yes, works fine for gaming at 1440p (the 3070 sweet spot) and general use. Check out our B660 motherboard roundup for good motherbaord options.

Hi, thanks for making this amazing video! I have some questions: 1) What should I go with, i5-12400F or i5-12600KF? (I don't play heavy shooting/other games, I want to do basic editing, I do multitasking a lot and I want to stream) 2) Should I go with a 3060Ti ($500) or 3070 ($600) with an i5? I am just wondering if I could get some real value for spending 100 bucks more. 3) Is the air cooler enough for the i5 with all my needs? Can you recommend some? 4) Lastly, will I get the same performance in both i5-12600 and i5-12600k without over clocking?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

1) Given editing and streaming, I'd avoid the F CPUs - get a 12400, 12500 or 12600 as the iGPU can help you out both for editing (transcoding and encoding) and streaming (encoding your stream as an option). 2) The 3060Ti performs very similarly to the 3070, same amount of VRAM and only a small amount faster - so I'd save the money there, the 3060TI is very capable. 3) I'd upgrade the cooler for heavier workloads, check out our 'best cooler for the i5' video to find out more. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmxqvMumYarblNY.html 4) The 12600K will perform a lot better in encoding/rendering as it has 4 additional e-cores. in gaming and tasks that can't use the e-cores, the 12600 is very close to the 12600K.

@neel260

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker Thank you for clearing my doubts and replying me in detail with your valuable time, I really appreciate it!

Which motherboard should i use for a is 12100f for gaming

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

A cheap but decent B660 mATX board would be my pick. The Asus Prime or at a push the Gigabyte B660M DS3H are good. I dislike the lack of features and expandablity on most H610 boards, even for an i3 PC they'll prevent upgrades in future.

@shubhambaidya8560

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker thank you bro✌

do you think i5 12400f paired with 3060ti a good combo?.....will it bottleneck the 3060ti?

@cr1ms0n11

2 жыл бұрын

Good pairing no bottleneckk

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Currently, the only GPU that gets bottlenecked (slightly) by the i5 12400 is the RTX 3090 Ti. Therefore anything up to an RTX 3080 Ti does not get bottlenecked by the i5 12400. Intel 12th gen is a very fast cpu generation. In gaming, the i5 12400 is faster than the i7 10700k, faster than the i5 11600k, and faster than the i9 11900k. The i9 10900k is faster than the i9 11900k, so the new i5 is sometimes slower than the i9 10900k in some games, and sometimes faster than the i9 10900k in other games. So as you can see, the i5 12400 beats all previous high end cpu's and only the fastest cpu from previous generations (the i9 10900k) can beat the i5 12400 (but only slightly). So don't worry, your 3060ti is nothing for the i5. In fact, your i5 won't need to work too hard because its still too fast for your 3060 ti to keep up.

Which will be faster for video editing? i5 12600k with Z690 or i7 12700 with b660.

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

The 12700. Avoid the F variant, the Intel quick sync on the iGPU is a valuable asset for video editing.

@crookedfilms4190

Жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker Alright. Thanks☺️

Which one should i choose? B660 + 12700 + rtx 3060 Or B660 + 12400 + rtx 3060ti Use for gaming and editing Thanks

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

If more gaming than editing, the 3060Ti option. If more editing than gaming, go for the i7 and 3060!

Would you recommend i3 12100f as cpu for gaming ?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

If it's what you can afford, yes, it's an excellent Gaming CPU at $100 or so. There's nothing at the price that touches it.

@GarstikusMaximus

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker except that Mainboards are expensive af

@tilapiadave3234

2 жыл бұрын

@@GarstikusMaximus NOT true

@GarstikusMaximus

2 жыл бұрын

@@tilapiadave3234 cheapest non Trash b660 mobo is 130 Dollars thats a Lot more than the cpu itself

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

@@GarstikusMaximus The trash b660 motherboards are designed precisely for cpu's like the i3. You don't even need VRM cooling if using the i3 12100. So if the i3 is what you are looking for, you can save a lot of money on both the cpu and the mobo. The non trash mobo's are only relevant when looking at an i5 or higher.

Hi! I've got a small question. You said that F CPUs don't have an iGPU and they shouldn't be used for video editing, but can they be used if I have a discrete GPU?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they can - but the iGPU accelerates things even a discrete GPU can't, so they're still worthwhile! My iGPU sits at about 30% utilisation whilst encoding these videos: It's doing the h.264 heavy lifting.

@mohamedadel-tw8sf

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker can you explain in separate video how is this even a thing cuz i cant understand how if i have separate gpu the prosser gpu still being in use

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedadel-tw8sf It's just a separate area on the CPU that can handle video related tasks.

12600k also can undervolt on b660 so that's another big plus, efficiency expecially in multicore scenario 12400 use around 70w - can run with the stock cooler for all usage 12500 around 85 - can run with stock cooler for gaming now, render and future more intensive games would need aftermarket cooler 12600 around 115 - Intel stock cooler is never gonna make it That running Cinebench r23 12600 is quite hard to cool because of the huge thermal density

Amd CPUS are expensive but motherboards are cheap and its the opposite for Intel.....I think Intel motherboards will come down in price at the sane time AMD CPUs do after release of 6000 series.Ill go for the cheaper option then,in few months.

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