Thank you for the great review, my Grande 16 arrives in another 5 or 6 days, your unboxing added to the excitement , again thank you.

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! It will make summer dinners better!

@markhenning8031

2 жыл бұрын

@@dad.teacher.chef.2947 Great Review. Have a question. I just received my Grande and will be cooking on it later today. Regarding the flame guard/flap, is the flap supposed to be up or down? I would assume if you're throwing in some wood, the flap stays up to keep wood from sliding onto the stone, and if just gas only (no wood), the guard goes down. Every video I've watched where they are just using gas (no wood), it looks like the guard is up. Or maybe I'm getting it backwards and if using wood, the flap is down. There's obviously a reason why the guard can be up or down, or else they would have just made it a permanent/stationary guard and not adjustable. Thanks for anyone that can answer.

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@markhenning8031 Congrats! Keep that flap up. It keeps wood chunks from falling onto the stone AND keeps the flame drafting higher above the pizzas. Many of us made a similar mod for the Original to keep the flames higher above the pizza and that was with gas only.

@markhenning8031

2 жыл бұрын

@@dad.teacher.chef.2947 Thanks. I kept it up even though just using gas. Not sure why you can move it up or down when it sounds like, wood or gas, it's best to keep it up - at which point they should just make it stationary.

@markhenning8031

2 жыл бұрын

@@dad.teacher.chef.2947 Thank you sir, I've been keeping it up. Bertello should just make it a stationary guard to ease confusion.

Just what I was looking for. I have the Bertello 1 and was going to maybe purchase the Ooni Koda 16. After your video, and seeing the flame underneath, with the added clearance (The "one" is like a mail slot) I'm sold on the Grande. Thank you so much. The comparison between the "one" and the Grande was invaluable.

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Excellent video that helped me make my decision. Thank You!!! Also, Bertello is offering a $200 off on the Grande for father's day. With the money I saved...I bought the cover, both pizza peels and IR thermometer. I can't wait.

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Be sure to share your pizzas! check out the FB group for help.

@jeff5553

Жыл бұрын

They are offering 15% off right now. Thats less than $100 off. Not the deal I thought it was. Thanks for the heads up!

Was looking at the discontinued ooni pros since the price really came down or the Cru 32 made in Portugal for 800. Now I see this new Grande to make my decision even harder lol. I liked the look of the original Bertello but really wanted a bigger oven to use for cast iron, steaks ect.... 2 concerns are of the small rear door opening and can this be wood fired only? I do like the feature of the gas under the stone too so everything can be throttled back once you to 850-950 then dropping hardwood into the pan. Thoughts I guess?

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

You can do just wood/organic fuel, don't have to do gas. I found that I turned the gas down as low as it would go and used wood chunks for the rest of the heat or the stone got too hot.

This is a nice oven but hot spots all on back. That bottom burner should be 5-6” further out to prevent that. I’m sure they fix that in later versions.

I’m trying to decide between models. This review was really helpful. Would you suggest to step up to the Grande ?

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

The Grande definitely makes it easier to rotate while cooking and the flames under the stone are really a game-changer! The Original is better for transporting due to size and weight. Either are great!

Great Review. Have a question. I just received my Grande and will be cooking on it later today. Regarding the flame guard/flap, is the flap supposed to be up or down? I would assume if you're throwing in some wood, the flap stays up to keep wood from sliding onto the stone, and if just gas only (no wood), the guard goes down. Every video I've watched where they are just using gas (no wood), it looks like the guard is up. Or maybe I'm getting it backwards and if using wood, the flap is down. There's obviously a reason why the guard can be up or down, or else they would have just made it a permanent/stationary guard and not adjustable. Thanks for anyone that can answer.

@pennydavis904

2 жыл бұрын

I am wondering the same thing. I was going to ask so hopefully we will get an answer soon

@markhenning8031

2 жыл бұрын

@@pennydavis904 Keep that flap up. It keeps wood chunks from falling onto the stone AND keeps the flame drafting higher above the pizzas. Many of us made a similar mod for the Original to keep the flames higher above the pizza and that was with gas only.

so how the pizzas turn out in the grande? based on the few videos i found on youtube, until they get used to it, people seem to be burning the bottom more than the top since there's a flame directly underneath the stone

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply! To make sure you don't get a burned bottom, use the gas flame on low or it gets too hot. Throw a few small wood chunks on to keep the flames going over the top of the pizza.

@jtviet

Жыл бұрын

@@dad.teacher.chef.2947 bought the grande. tried 3 pizzas. burnt 3 pizzas. returned the oven

How long did it take to receive the oven from the time it was ordered? I am in New England and ordered it a few days ago (can't wait:)

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

Жыл бұрын

Mine didn't take long to arrive. Hopefully you get it soon!

Why no deep test video for 2 months :(? Would be nice if you give your thoughts for people struggling with decision what to buy...pros ans cons of these two ovens

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, been crazy busy and haven't made videos. Did you decide on one?

@ptrwsk

2 жыл бұрын

@@dad.teacher.chef.2947 yes. I got oryginal small one. And except of cleaning inside I'm very happy with choice.

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@ptrwsk Great! Good to hear. Before cooking I take the stone out, brush it off with my hand, and rotate it over.

@ptrwsk

2 жыл бұрын

@@dad.teacher.chef.2947 I'm using gas & wood option and to clean ashes from the container at the back it's real pain in the....

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@ptrwsk get a small, battery powered vacuum - it is easy to use and works great

I have the original Bartello. I don't think they should have changed the design. The original is a great little oven. It is too bad you do not see to many reviews on it. It appears you should be able to use wood, gas or combination of both as the original. This is what makes the original underrated oven the best choice for portable ovens. Fyi...I have gotten the best results pumping out the best tasting pizzas using lump charcoal and propane. This will give you a stable temperature when you are baking numerous pizzas. My oven heats up to more than 900 degrees and have no issues with heating up the stone. The original design obtains a great rolling flame above the pizzas. I think this new under the stone flame will eventually overheat the stone. I think eventually if you are making pizzas for more than an hour it will eventually start burning your dough creating a hot spot in the bottom. I hope I am wrong because it would be nice to own a larger size Bartello.

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

They original and Grande definitely have pros and cons in different situations. As I cooked I found I turned the burner all the way down to keep the stone hot but not burning, and used wood chunks as well for heat across the pizza. I really enjoyed it! Not quite as portable as the original. Good luck!

But did you cook with it?

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! The extra room was nice compared to the Original and the stone stayed very hot, producing a nice, crispy base.

@Bertollo GRANDE-OWNERS! What are the results cooking with gas only? Neapolitan Style. Thank u!

Have you cooked a pizza in this new oven yet?

@dad.teacher.chef.2947

2 жыл бұрын

I did and the crust as way crispier than the original Bertello. It was nice having more room to maneuver as well!

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The Under burner does not hit a long the entire stone that is a manufacturing defect /bad design. Needed to hit the stone longer towards the front. No wonder Reviews mention the fact that it does not cook evenly. It is made so that the flame burns the pizza top to bottom and it needs to be moved like every second. Napolitan pizza is OK cause one needs to Move the pie all a long those 60/90 seconds but New york style that require longer time cooking Will burn the bottom unevenly. That is a big defect.