“Religious apologists complain bitterly that Atheists and Secularists are aggressive and hostile in their criticism of them. I always say: look, when you guys were in charge, you didn’t argue with us, you just burnt us at the stake. Now what we’re doing is, we’re presenting you with some arguments and some challenging questions, and you complain.” - A.C. Grayling

Mark should listen to his own advice and not call in.

This caller has given me a much better understanding as to why you should not mix metaphors.

Such a terribly tortured analogy. I'm relieved the hosts finally figured it all out, otherwise I'd have been confused what the point was for the rest of the day. I'm still lost what the volcano is, what the boat is, and who is the high seas in that analogy. But, at least the bigger point was finally revealed. Holy cripes, the call went seriously off the rails into uncomfortable-land there at the end: Please, try harder, caller.

@brenta2634

Ай бұрын

You beat me to "tortured analogy."

@minimobilereview6570

25 күн бұрын

The boat represents the vessel steered by the captain who tried to avoid the volcano which was erupting at the time filling the filter with the carbon but we cleaned it and then the island was ready

@minimobilereview6570

25 күн бұрын

I guess

This gentleman likes to sail the high seas. He really should convert to Pastafarianism so he can help fight climate change. Come over to the good side!

Isn't this the same guy that called AXP and started out saying, "Good evening, gentlemen," in a count dracula kinda voice?

Since the ACA puts on a visual show, I certainly notice hosts' faces and how they present themselves (haircuts, clothes, makeup), but, if I called in, I cannot imagine using my limited time to gush about how handsome someone is looking or whatever.

@MercenarySed

25 күн бұрын

He literally took 4 seconds at the end to make a nonsexual compliment. The person who didn't receive the compliment got jealous and made a big deal out of it. Most normal ppl spend time thinking about what they wear and it's a breath of fresh air to get a compliment for your efforts. Jealousy is all I seen here

@nickromanthefencer

21 күн бұрын

Bruh this was not about jealously, this was about defending a weird guy complementing a host on a call in show by saying she has 'patrician beauty'

@MercenarySed

20 күн бұрын

@@nickromanthefencer just bcuz you've never had contact with a woman doesn't mean everyone else hasn't either. He's allowed to compliment her without someone else getting offended. She's a big girl and doesn't need u defending her 🤣 calm down

"atheists shouldn't be seen because when you question your religion and you figure out there's a lot of people that aren't religious and they're not monsters or bitter or constantly being struck by god's wrath then i might just stop being religious, plus they got good reasons which religious people don't"

Bit of a whack job, but as for the confessional experience, same story here. I made up sins cuz we all are sinners. The silly part was the priest was our next door neighbor and spent many evenings at our dinner table. I "literally" grew up IN the church. I wasn't fooling the priest, but hey, sin!

"Theists should not be calling you people because you use reason and logic to debunk their unfounded, nonsensical beliefs and that could encourage people to stop believing in supernatural bullsh!t."

There was indeed a "but" between she's smart and she's beautiful. I hope he listened back after this call.

Anyone who would say the phrase "volcano under the island" doesn't understand what a volcano is. The volcano isn't _under_ the island. It _is_ the island. On a side note, I once spent two days arguing with a guy from Hawai'i about whether or not the lava is sentient and whether or not it "choses" to attack a building because something-something-something angering the goddess of fire or whatever. Eventually, I gave up. Couldn't convince the dude that building an "immoral" hydrothermal power plant didn't trigger the volcano erupting. I went into detail about what causes eruptions and even what determines where the lava comes out, but the guy wouldn't listen.

@tekbarrier

14 күн бұрын

And I thought Christians had some bizarre beliefs. Does he not understand how gravity works and how fluids, including molten rock, flow downhill? 😂

@Trainfan1055Janathan

13 күн бұрын

@@tekbarrier I mentioned that, but he said, "What about instances of lava stopping, reversing and going uphill?" (Implying that his goddess of fire causes that to happen) I didn't have a response at the time, but days later, I thought, "Wait a minute. Hawai'ian lava can reach speeds of 30 mph. At that speed, the momentum would easily propel it up a hill, and when the momentum stops due to the eruption stopping, it's gonna go back down the hill. As for lava stopping, some lava is so thick, it can barely move. Because of that, it occasionally gets stuck for days. This can easily be explained by science and not a goddess of fire.

To me, callers analogy sounded like this: Atheism is so strong, that theists shouldn't even try to fight it. 🎉😂😂😂🎉

Ew what a creep talking about Tracie like that

I've got no dog in this fight, but there was a caveat "but". I'm a stickler for the details.

I will positively assert and make the claim that no one should be subject to unwanted or unwelcomed advances or approaches. I recognize this statement will be uncouth; don't shit where you eat.

This has serious stalker vibes, especially towards the end there...

What do you mean you people? What do you mean you people?

After 5 minutes I still don’t know what the caller believes or doesn’t and no one has asked ? What ?

Mark employs the worse of analogies. Islands with volcanoes underneath? For someone who claims above average intelligence, he has me baffled.

The analogies needs analogies to make sense of the first analogy? I got lost in analogies 😂

@thedave1771

24 күн бұрын

Without an analogy, I just can’t understand what you mean here.

@A_Small_Game_Cat

23 күн бұрын

Darmok and Jalad on the Ocean 😆

@thedave1771

23 күн бұрын

@@A_Small_Game_Cat Kiteo, his eyes closed.

Sounds like a challenge.

Waaaa, the fragility is off the charts.

Someone take that shovel out his hand

Repent! Sinners! Something something Bible Verse 3:16, for Gawd so loved da world, that he gave up a weekend for our filthy sins...did it work? Are the mean old atheists converted now?? I'm secretly terrified that my beliefs might not be valid, so the more effort and obnoxiousness I put into spamming comment sections, while plugging my ears and not listening to what anyone says, the easier I hope it wil be to soothe my feelings and questioning. One day, one day, they'll all find out who's right...after we're...no longer existent...oh no no no oh gawd the existential dread is coming back, push it down push it down push it down...do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth, I have not come to bring peace, but a sword... 🗡️ 🗡️

@albaniahenry-franklin2829

25 күн бұрын

HILARIOUS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@adamstrange7884

25 күн бұрын

The NECRONOMICON is the true word of God!

@rallyfeind

24 күн бұрын

​@@adamstrange7884"Look, maybe I didn't say every single little tiny syllable, no. But basically I said them, yeah."

I found it very difficult to agree with this person's way of thinking on anything

Can I be a palm tree?

@youtubestudiosucks978

17 күн бұрын

I could treath you like a tree, i have a dog, guess what they do to trees :)

I do not remember mentioning any of that. Are you responding to someone else?

Mark take the hit off the bong after you call please?

This caller forgets Peter 3:15 that weirdo god folk supposed to convert us

I was an atheist until I realized I was right so I kept being an atheist

I like what he said about Tracie. The man has a poetic soul. The world today doesn't like that.

@nanban1896

25 күн бұрын

I'm of a different generation, I would not have said what he said because I am aware of sensitivities. However I am aware that in the past and in some places in the present things were/are different. To me this a good example of cultural or even sub-cultural relativity.

@wolf2966

25 күн бұрын

Yeah because it’s creepy and anyone who speaks like that tends to be an insane person

@MercenarySed

24 күн бұрын

Could u imagine approaching these ppl at a bar? "Hey I just thought u were beautiful and would love to take u on a date sometime" thn she starts spazzing out about how rude u were 😂 like wtf?

@wolf2966

24 күн бұрын

@@MercenarySed how about “hi may I sit here” wait for answer that will indicate if your advance is welcome that way they have the power to say yes or no and that shows you are willing to respect space and boundaries

@MercenarySed

24 күн бұрын

@@wolf2966 wow! They have to ask to sit down before they can give u a compliment? U don't get out much do u? Nothing wrong with that... yikes!

Theists believe they're right and that they have the more defensible position (except for presups), so that's why they might want to call. Atheists believe we're right and that we have the more defensible position, which is a big part of why shows like this exist in the first place. Also, treat other people the way they want to be treated. If someone's telling you their uncomfortable with some type of complements, if you continue giving those complements, you'd be doing so for your own sake, not for their sake.

@aidanhugh2490

14 күн бұрын

Agreed, It's contextual. Most mature people would respond well to a simple apology. It might be awkward for two seconds, but it's manageable. It's odd how the people complaining about fragility seem to not be able to handle the mild awkwardness of asking simple questions or walking things back after a mistake.

This is why I hate "woke". Every morning, the first thought after waking up is 'What can I be offended by today?'

@roscowbrown3937

25 күн бұрын

I totally agree. Can you imagine if I met your mom or daughter, the came to tell you how hot I think they are? Surely, you would feel complemented, unless you’re one of those “woke” people

@Callimo

25 күн бұрын

Don't let far right fascists twist up words and phrases for you that they don't understand. Being "woke" means being aware. And ofc, those that are threatened by people who see them as they are and what they are truly about would be triggered by such a term.

@isaacmachado1238

25 күн бұрын

As you can see in the video, back in 2018 people like the caller and yourself called it "PC"

@MercenarySed

24 күн бұрын

I can't imagine trying to date one of these ppl. She literally got offended over a compliment that wasn't even toward her and was harmless. Like how do u approach someone when you're not even allowed to compliment them on their appearance? This is so wild to me

@roscowbrown3937

24 күн бұрын

@@MercenarySed Was this gentleman approaching a woman or calling a talk show? Furthermore, can you describe how you would feel if I called your talk show just to talk about how hot I think you’re co-worker or your friend or your mom or your daughter is? I mean, it’s just a compliment, right? How else do I approach a woman?

As if sects and sex could ever overlap 😂😂😂

It was a good call until he got tone deaf about his comment. I don't know how old he is, but that seems to be something a person who's Gen X or older would say.

Mark following people on KZread for quite a while, obviously did not translate into any understanding of what those people were saying.

How boring and pointless.

Neo Puritans

Imagine getting offended over a compliment that wasn't even for u. Jealous much? As a black man, I hate it when yt ppl do that. We can defend ourselves if we find something offensive. Been dating since middle school and even when rejected, I've never had someone be offended by me calling them beautiful. Please stop the madness. Please 🙏🏿

@wolf2966

25 күн бұрын

This Has nothing to do with jealousy she knows Tracie who I’m pretty sure is married and knows Tracie would not appreciate that sort of comment made about her when you have nothing to compliment about a woman except her beauty it is just gross and creepy and then to just add oh she’s also intelligent without knowing her makes it worse it’s desperate creepy and from a stranger on a phone terrifying you won’t get it because you are not a woman nor looking at this with an empathetic point of view when you compliment someone’s beauty like how this guy did your essentially saying they’re nice to look at and nothing else that’s the problem with complimenting someone’s beauty when you do not know them most women do not like beauty remarks from strangers because they feel unsafe or undervalued as a human being and just seen as something only good to be looked at not respected I hope you can better understand this and be a lot mor understanding as a man to see how a lot of women feel this is coming from a married man

@MercenarySed

25 күн бұрын

@@wolf2966 I'm also a married man. Ppl compliment me and my wife literally every time we go out. Georgia is nowhere near as wild as California and Texas so u have to understand how wild this is for me. We always do it whether we know u or not because it's completely normal here. "Thank u for bringing your beautiful wife and kids to our get together". "Tell your wife that dress is lovely". "You have an intelligent and handsome husband". These phrases r common here and r welcomed. For someone to get mad at another person for a polite compliment that isn't even for them is completely alien here. I do respect your opinion on it tho and hope someone never offends u with a compliment

@MercenarySed

25 күн бұрын

@@wolf2966 I'm curious. If u see someone that u like and u want to get to know them, do u not compliment them? Like how do u navigate that situation? Has anyone ever approached u and given u a compliment and asked u out on a date? My wife is dumbfounded right now at these comments and tbh, so am I... genuinely

@wolf2966

24 күн бұрын

@@MercenarySed there’s a difference between a compliment from someone you know and then creepy compliments from strangers referring to someone’s beauty but you don’t know them that’s creepy if it’s my friend boss or coworker complimenting me and my wife it’s different because there’s boundaries when it comes from a stranger especially on a phone it’s a hella lot do but even then if someone is complimenting my family or my wife after just meeting I’m not grateful I’m not offended I’m on full alert you shouldn’t be complimenting someone until after you know them otherwise you either seem creepy or like a kiss ass especially if it’s at a business function it also depends on time and place if your at a formal event everyone’s dressing nice so that would be normal but if your on a walk minding your own business and you hear someone compliment your appearance wearing casual clothing it’s unsettling

@wolf2966

24 күн бұрын

@@MercenarySed you ask to sit and if approved you begin to just have casual conversation introduce yourself you can compliment someone without addressing physical facial appearance what really helps is acknowledging something the might have that tells a story or just find a way to connect if the want to connect they’ll find a reason and a way if they don’t you’ll find out real quick they don’t want anything to do with you the goal is to find someone who likes you in return and wants to get to know you not try and play games and fool them into liking you if you think you have to play games and fool them your doing something wrong so to answer your question simply if I want to get to know someone and they wish to do the same it will just happen if it’s one sided it won’t I’m not desperate to try and use a strangers facial and bodily features to try and get their attention

These atheist televangelists are always trying to get me to call in to their shows. I just tell them I am never going to do it. Here are the correct equations for relativity. x'=x-vt y'=y z'=z t'=t Here are the ones that atheists think are correct. x' = (x - vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) y'=y z'=z t' = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

Super smart and good looking...oh my gosh you horrible caller... awkward at the end

@nanban1896

25 күн бұрын

Its not something I would say myself, but there are worse things to be called in life. Horrible is not a word I would use, as that was clearly not the intent, its merely a generational issue. Society changes quickly and few people change as fast or as much as it does. If every generation chooses to take offence when none was intended and isn't able to empathise with the conditions people were brought up in, that is indeed a horrible prospect.

Damn. Bro is lusting after tracy. Thats a sin, brother!

@insomniagamers1439

22 күн бұрын

Dude said he was gay at 8:10 ish. Plus they played gay jokes on the caller at the 10- 0:15 second mark.

@aidanhugh2490

14 күн бұрын

@@insomniagamers1439 I think he meant coming out as an atheist (I think he was an atheist? Honestly it mostly sounded like incoherent/pseudointellectual gibberish). It's a term that's used often on this show and by their callers. Also, that wasn't really a jab on him being gay, just a silly comment about him saying he was "proposing" to him. They wouldn't have known about his sexuality at that point anyways. I don't think that's something they'd ask for in the survey. It'd be weird if they did.

@insomniagamers1439

14 күн бұрын

@@aidanhugh2490 I never thought they thought he was gay in the beginning, never said or claimed that. I just meant if he is gay then he would not have been sexually talking about Tracy. I don't think being gay mattered to them one way or the other. It's just that we have people here mad that he gave a compliment, but they don't see how cracking gay proposition jokes could offend someone. I don't know if he meant Atheist or gay coming out, but he says he's doing it twice. I guess I just don't see why one would phrase it like a gay dude coming out. Who knows. I honesty am not offended by either compliment or proposition. I just think if you are going to freak out over compliments you should watch how you speak to people as well. One standard. Be appropriate if you make your callers act a certain way then you probably should as well. Do you think the hosts would have been alright with the caller Telling Tracy he wanted to sex proposition her and the caller had a friend that was going oh my, oh this is all within the first 15 seconds of the call when the host would be trying to get a point out. Do you think the hosts would have been giggling like little naughty kids like they did or be pissed, like they were? Thank you for being reasonable and cool my friend.

Mark in full of crap, ok, get it’s right God guy!

That rant at the end…about Tracy’s looks was…so creepy. And it kept getting worse…! Just, don’t!

@MercenarySed

25 күн бұрын

He literally complimented her in a nonsexual way and was about to leave it there until the woman who didn't get a compliment felt jealous. Glad Jamie let everyone know that she spoke for herself. How do u folks ever get a date if you're not allowed to compliment someone? This is wild

@Nocturnalux

25 күн бұрын

@@MercenarySed Wtf is wrong with you? First of all, he is not dating Tracy, or trying to, he does not even know her. Second, once the hosts explained, in a very reasonable manner, why he shouldn’t do it, he just kept at it.

@MercenarySed

25 күн бұрын

@@Nocturnalux u don't have to date someone to compliment them 🤦🏿 it's almost like you've never had a date before. Plenty of women have and currently come up to me and compliment me on my looks, which is expected and appreciated because I work hard to look exceptional. 2nd, the call would've ended there had this jealous person not have made a big deal out of a compliment that wasn't even for her. Get out more and stop spending your entire life on the internet and see how many ppl compliment u, in a nonsexual way, in passing. It's only that deep when you're not the one receiving the compliment. As Jamie stated, she speaks for herself. He would've loved the compliment and moved on because he probably gets compliments all the time and is a normal human being who appreciates non-invasive flattery 🤦🏿

@wolf2966

25 күн бұрын

@@Nocturnaluxyeah it just kept getting creepier as he kept talking

@wolf2966

25 күн бұрын

@@MercenarySedhe’s also a man so it’s very different

Mark is terrible at analogies

Nice smile, i suffered cautiously the 70's with all the postive feed back on my gorgeousness or un gorgeousness, nice to know where i stood in the complimentors opinion. Chill.i you dont like it by all means handle it the way you did. Just a comment on "i dont feel comfortable with you complimenting me , please do not in the future." but damn. lit into him like a swarm of bees, Its difficult for other generations to adapt to every little twist this future has become. Hope you havent lost listeners. Now live with people not complimenting anything? Besides, should each Host speak for themselves, whats with the defense. why the offense? He feels a kin because hes such a good fan of the show and people get awe'd. Forgive him.

@AmberAmber

25 күн бұрын

Don't tell others how they should feel please.

@SnareRushJunkie

25 күн бұрын

Cry more.

@nanban1896

25 күн бұрын

@@AmberAmber In fairness to Kathleen, I don't think she told you how to feel. She just said what she felt. If you have an issue with what she said then articulate it in a meaningful way.

@AmberAmber

25 күн бұрын

@@nanban1896 No she didn't tell me how to feel - she told the hosts how to feel. That's all I am concerned about - I'm glad Kathleen enjoys compliments-but not everyone does however. My dad asks now if he can give someone a compliment before he does cos we are all learning consent matters. I'm proud of him. & I don't think Kathleen is bad - I just don't think she can tell others how to feel about a compliment & actually feel it will work. No one truly chooses their feelings is all. Peace & TY for the sweetness. Sorry for spelling cos vision impaired.

@MercenarySed

24 күн бұрын

These ppl r insane. Imagine getting offended on someone else's behalf over a 4 second, harmless, compliment. Now imagine dating someone like that 💀

12:00 - 12:10 I had to pause to like physically cringe

@insomniagamers1439

22 күн бұрын

I had to cringe at 10- 0:15 seconds in as they made gay jokes to the caller that was way more inappropriate.

@realdaggerman105

22 күн бұрын

@@insomniagamers1439 I’d disagree. That was a snide quip. It wasn’t nearly as bad.

@insomniagamers1439

22 күн бұрын

@@realdaggerman105 It was both of them breaking their rules.

@realdaggerman105

21 күн бұрын

@@insomniagamers1439 It wasn’t, though. I don’t know what’s got you so uncomfortable with a quick joke over the very weird comments made later.

@insomniagamers1439

21 күн бұрын

@@realdaggerman105 I am not gay. If I call in an atheist show ( I am atheist BTW) I don't want to joke (especially 15 seconds into the call) about me gay propositioning the host and his blue haired co-host says "oh my" like it's just fine (it's extremely weird and creepy to me she even said Oh My in the creepy voice to emphasize it's creepy). Then they get freaked out over a benign compliment. What's worse, saying someone is beautiful or saying I gay propositioned someone when you are not gay and don't appreciate that type of joke? I don't know how this could be confused. Why would they be comfortable with gay jokes when they don't know the caller or if he is ok with it, and not a compliment? Anyway, they should follow their own advice if they are going to massively freak out. 1 standard. Easy to understand. Either no freak out or all freak out. No compliment and no gay proposition jokes sounds fair. If it's only gay jokes or compliments I would say it is unfair. Are you saying if he made a sexual proposition joke about Tracy (and even had a friend say Oh My all within 15 seconds no less) it would have been ok?

The caller actually preached less for once. Sorry but right to speak my mind always supercedes your possible offense and any past traumas shouldn't have to know to say "hey that is a nice color outfit" or "I like your hair." It is not my job to maintain everyone else's list of triggers or even consider them. If we are close it is a dual investment in that respect and understanding. I was not put here for your pleasure of mind any more than you are here for me to see and enjoy.

The end was completely unnecessary, impolite and inappropriate of you. Sorry had to do the right thing and give a thumbs down.

@ashleycantrell9844

24 күн бұрын

Lmao how? Because the person he's commenting on isnt here to defend herself to tell mark if she likes to be commented on like that or not?

You 2 are horrible at your job re-watch this and you should agree!😮

@roscowbrown3937

25 күн бұрын

no argument as to what they said that was wrong so, no, they shouldn’t

Repent of your sins, believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 24:47 KJV And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:3 KJV Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

@ojrmk1

25 күн бұрын

Do you actually think this has even the remotest chance of working? We're asking for evidence, not bible verses, and if you've watched any of our content - or even better called in - you'd know that and know that "Cos Book Says So" holds absolutely no weight.

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

25 күн бұрын

You do know that all bible stories are stolen from other, older myths? Noah's Flood is a copy of Gilgamesh's Flood, the story of Moses is a rip-off of Sargon of Akkad. Hell is stolen from Tartarus from Greek Myth, with the Norse name Hel placed on top of it. The Angels are just taken from the Valkyries. And Jesus is just another Demigod rip-off which almost all myths have. Nothing in the bible is original and pretty much the entire christianity is a rip-off of older mythologies, meaning of all of them, christianity is the least likely to be true.

@TonyAMO

25 күн бұрын

Has it ever occurred to this guy that maybe he should change his approach instead of repeating the same things over and over again?

@2Timothy42-tl6lh

25 күн бұрын

@@ojrmk1 I don't know if it will work for anyone here. I don't know the future. I don't care what you ask for and I don't watch any of the content. I preach the gospel like Jesus commands His followers to do.

@albaniahenry-franklin2829

25 күн бұрын

The only TRUE deities are Osiris, Quetzacoatl, Marduk, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, and Asherah! All other deities, not limited to but including Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah/Hashem/Elohim, are false and demonic deceivers! True salvation lies with you embracing them as your only saviors. You know this to be a fact because they wrote it divinely upon your heart. The only reason you would deny this is because you want to sin🤣🤣🤣🤣

The end was so akward. The guy was trying to be nice in his own extremely flawed and outdated way. The reaction was a bit unnecesary in my opinion

@SnareRushJunkie

25 күн бұрын

Nah he was weird as hell.

@godsire6217

25 күн бұрын

Na, people need to know that their beliefs are bull.

@nanban1896

25 күн бұрын

@@SnareRushJunkie What does that mean? Or can we all just call everything 'weird as hell' if we don't like it? and if we can does it mean anything?

@MercenarySed

25 күн бұрын

Jealousy had this person speaking for someone else. Glad Jamie made it clear that that was just how his co-host felt. If youve never had someone call u handsome or beautiful, I can see how that could be weird but give me a break. How do u ppl ask a person out on a date? Do u compliment them ever or is that reserved for the 2nd date? 🤦🏿

@SnareRushJunkie

25 күн бұрын

@@nanban1896 It means he was weird as hell.