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@fawnangel4444

Жыл бұрын

what video do you have playing in the background when you’re talking about their extreme diets? is it a documentary?

POV: you are here bc the drama from the Beijing Olympics made you jump down the rabbit hole with both feet and now ya gotta know the backstory

@aelenaleonova

2 жыл бұрын

Now you see why Trusova had a meltdown. She is in the “Eteri expiration date” age so this might be her first and last Olympics ☹️

@lzbhcvm6747

2 жыл бұрын

Most Russians don't even have stable access to water and electricity but they are brainwashed to think it's the best country in the world

@StinkyDustyBird

2 жыл бұрын

@@lzbhcvm6747 you know what’s weird? My brother, in his 50s now, moved from the USA to Russia and he thinks this too. Everything is the best there, no homeless, very clean, low covid numbers. It’s weird!

@lzbhcvm6747

2 жыл бұрын

@@StinkyDustyBird hahahahhahahhhahahahahaha Russia's entire GDP is even lower than China's Beijing province, let alone comparing to the U.S.

@user-gt3gy1yp9p

2 жыл бұрын

@@lzbhcvm6747 we never said that lol

“They were calling him fat and gay, but really he was just chubby and gay” lmao idk why this made me laugh so much

@ericafraser4478

3 жыл бұрын

Lemme tell you I DIED when she said that

@mrxiong2567

2 жыл бұрын

She can’t can’t can’t use the word “gay”. Oh boy, she just used it.

@nickc3657

2 жыл бұрын

I actually SCREAMED and upset my housemates

@krisfujimoto72

2 жыл бұрын

Brian is good and very successful. He is good with people.

@scarleth3693

2 жыл бұрын

bxnxnnd same

I’m Russian and I want to remind everyone about the existence of such an amazing skater as Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. her career outlived Julia, Evgenia, Alina, Alyona and so on. Is it a coincidence that the only uninjured Russian figure skater who has been skating brilliantly for more than 10 years is not from the Tutberidze team? I don't think so (I hope my English is understandable🥺👉🏻👈🏻)

@elinstar6034

Жыл бұрын

Your English is excellent!😊

@Snowfang00andco

10 ай бұрын

I’ve seen her skate, she’s beautiful on the ice. She’s earned her nickname “the empress” She looks so mature when she’s next to Eteri’s skaters.

@ChristineTheHippie

10 ай бұрын

We love the Empress.

@lunix3259

10 ай бұрын

Your country have a lot of talented people, wish they didn't have to get caught in unfortunate situations

@Snowfang00andco

10 ай бұрын

@@lunix3259 Elizaveta was robbed. It was down to her and Anna to go to Beijing 2022 and the judges basically had already decided to send Anna by giving her unfair scores.

So you essentially explained this Olympic disaster.. LAST YEAR.

@laonagrouchini

2 жыл бұрын

exactly this was foreshadowing at its finest

@unknown-lf6zx

2 жыл бұрын

Yet no one listened to this wise broadcaster and or the girls. Bodies damaged and careers ruined and they ARE CHILDREN! It’s child abuse pure and simple! I want to send Tonya Harding to kick Eteri’s arse. I’m so mad how these girls have been abused!

@ciara4087

2 жыл бұрын

It just goes to show how this is a vicious cycle, it happens every fucking year 😔

@Grace-fu6mf

2 жыл бұрын

@@unknown-lf6zx LMAO NOT TONYA HARDING

This needs to be a Netflix doc

@annoir

3 жыл бұрын

@@efimkrivov What the actual F are you talking about?!?!

@mon1708

3 жыл бұрын

@@efimkrivov “I have nothing against blacks” just say you are a racist

@hudathehudini9571

3 жыл бұрын

@@efimkrivov wtf

@winterisswag8046

3 жыл бұрын

YESS

@yara7113

3 жыл бұрын

@@efimkrivov they are not called ‘blacks’ and please grow a brain and stop being racist you nasty human

Some people have the Kardashians, I have Russian figure skating. It's literally the same thing, if not better

@jb7644

3 жыл бұрын

yea but the big difference is that these Russians Skaters have talent they can be proud of.

@annawarner1078

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - it is much, much better... No comparison.

@Griffw06

3 жыл бұрын

We can make a TV show and titile it: Keeping up with Tutberidze...

@annawarner1078

3 жыл бұрын

@@Griffw06 Yes - she is a true powerhouse...

@user-ck1sp8vp2v

3 жыл бұрын

Eteri is a great coach of great Russia. If someone needs Plushenko, you can take it. We will pay you extra for this))))) Sasha Trusova has no more jumps left while she trains with him. Alena Kostornaya will soon end her career.

This aged extremely well

@sleepyjoe4529

2 жыл бұрын

haha I was just g onana type this

@lazur2012

2 жыл бұрын

Right? After the Olympics, I started digging the topic to know what the f*** is going on there :D

@brookeb1753

2 жыл бұрын

Slowly but surely making it to everyone’s recommended including mine 😂😂

@Beelzebubzwife

2 жыл бұрын

Right

@ahmosenefertari6397

2 жыл бұрын

For someone outside of this world, can you tell me why it aged well? What happened?

the moment tutberidze discovers puberty blockers we'll all be doomed

@bouncecat

6 ай бұрын

Unless she discovered a healing elixir, I don't think keeping them young is the issue. She destroys them young after 4 years of overtraining with injuries. So even a 10 year old would be forced to retire at 15, after a senior style of elite competition rounds.

also can i add that brian orser seems like one of the only coaches who isn’t a total psycho and he actually cares for his students beyond their athletic skills... and he doesn’t shade literal children on social media???? idc stan brian x

@beepbeep670

3 жыл бұрын

Yup plus I think there are more reasons she went for Orser..................not just because of Eteri

@jb7644

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, Orser's team are all drama free kids from Yuna, Hanyu, and Fernandez. So I can imagine how stress free they are from their coach which is essential for young adults.

@beepbeep670

3 жыл бұрын

@@jb7644 nowadays there’s quite a lot of tea going on with BO but guess what I’m just gonna ignore,,,,, imma focus on skates...

@izzy156

3 жыл бұрын

@SisiaVogel what happened?

@saidas505

3 жыл бұрын

@@izzy156 These are NOT my words but from Reddit where people explained it like this: ”Basically, Brian said there was tension caused by Yuna's mom (possibly related to a false rumor that Brian was set to coach Yuna's main rival, Mao Asada), but he wanted to keep coaching her. He said they told him he would no longer be coaching Yuna Kim rather unceremoniously one morning, and as such his team stopped coaching her. Yuna's mom released her own statement saying something about this being temporary and that Yuna would be back. When Brian wouldn't take her back, Yuna/her mom started saying he was lying. It sounds like Yuna herself didn't have much of a say for herself and stayed out of the drama. There's a lot of really crazy stuff that happened in the back-and-forth between the two, but who knows. You can find a lot of good information about that part of it from articles when the split happened. IIRC Phil Hersh linked to a few articles about it around the time of the Eteri-Medvedeva split. Rumor also has it that this is why Brian has since taken a pretty strict policy against known crazy or stage parents. More specifically, this is said to be why Nam Nguyen and Elizaveta Tursynbaeva left. I can't remember who, but there were a few skaters he has been rumored to have refused due to crazy skating parents. Of course, Brian Orser being Brian Orser he won't confirm/deny any of these crazy parent rumors. Another angle is this: Korea's skating federation wanted Yuna to keep competing and skating after Vancouver, but Yuna herself didn't want to. She's said vague statements to this effect since and others involved in skating (including some on TV) said she "didn't have her heart in it," "was hesitant to compete," "didn't want the attention," "didn't like competing," "was satisfied with the modeling and TV work," etc. after winning gold. So it's possible that she herself initiated the split because it was a good way to cut back on her training or otherwise prepare for retirement, only to be forced back into competition for Sochi.”

"The first woman ever to land it (triple Axel) in competition was a Japanese lady." LOL - can we please give Midori Ito her due?!

@cecily3797

2 жыл бұрын

No one can take away Midori's achievement, so I think this was just an unfortunate use of words but not with the intention of undermining her and demeriting her work

@KimNiemi

2 жыл бұрын

@@cecily3797 Yeah, that's why I put "LOL" - wasn't an accusation. Just a playful observation.

@chickenmcdickin

10 ай бұрын

Lbh here, there is some racism that played in those words. Asian representation is already so little outside of Asia in majority, if not, all of the world that to undermine Midori Ito as a figure skating enthusiast is really nothing short of brushing off achievements by Asians. I don't remember this yter doing the same to any other athlete she's mentioned? I could be wrong, I don't remember. That comment that was made rubs the wrong way

@cickihasselblad

9 ай бұрын

It was definitely a put down of Midori Ito one of the best skater of all times. Why will we remember these Russian children in 30 years? Because of their amazing careers or because of the child abuse sanctioned by government? It will be like what we remember about Sochi 2014 cheating by government sanctioned doping.

@kaorumikeko

Ай бұрын

Yeah, as if the first American woman who landed 3A is significant but the first woman who landed 3A is insignificant because she was not Westerner.

Knowing that Evengia retired from her back pain just breaks your heart

@cosmari245

10 ай бұрын

And yulia from her struggles w an eating disorder i believe :(

Wow, watching this after watching Kamila Valieva skate at the Olympics, and she also trains with Eteri. Honestly makes so much sense because I always wonder every Olympics what happened to the other Russians that won gold.

@tutteri01

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!😂

@gracelaw8797

2 жыл бұрын

Same😂I have noticed a pattern but this just confirms it.

@aisera1986

2 жыл бұрын

I believe Kamilla will be ice skating till the next Olympics

@hapo153

2 жыл бұрын

Kamila Valieva is not from this planet. She must be an Alien. lol

@youeatthemtheydie

2 жыл бұрын

And now we know Kamila doped

Figure skating these days feels like the cold war

@veronikakysil9141

3 жыл бұрын

...cold war in one country or even in one club technically

@viktoria8189

3 жыл бұрын

It was always like this...scandals all around.

@phonkearl3581

3 жыл бұрын

These days? Always has been wdym lol

@Bella-po8vh

3 жыл бұрын

@@phonkearl3581 yeah it kind of perfectly matches the Cold War. USA-> mens and ice dance. Russia -> ladies and pairs. Lmao the two countries even shade each often other in figure skating commentaries.

@phonkearl3581

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bella-po8vh that wasn’t rlly my point but ok

There should definitely be a Netflix documentary like this, about these young abused girls and Eteri. So sad 😔

@alisonb9963

2 жыл бұрын

I can see it rather as a dark comedy. It would be fun to watch.

@birthdaycow

Жыл бұрын

@@alisonb9963 I don’t understand why it would be a comedy when they’re trying to bring light to the abuse these girls are facing…

@alisonb9963

Жыл бұрын

@@birthdaycow I can just picture all of the cat-fighting, running mascara, tantrums etc. mixed with the actual drama they went through. Peace out.

@birthdaycow

Жыл бұрын

@@alisonb9963 I mean you literally just stated more stuff that would be emotionally draining and damaging for them but okay I guess the emotional abuse of children is funny and entertaining /s

@alisonb9963

Жыл бұрын

@@birthdaycow Exactly. Glad you see my dark humor. Now...buzz off.

The Japanese lady, Midori Ito, the first woman to land a triple triple and triple axel in a competition..still a legend i think even to this day/compared to the squad.

@b0rtie

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! The equipment and coaching techniques are so much more advanced today than that of Midori’s era. Still amazes me every time I watch her land the triple axel.

@lauralarrabee7870

2 жыл бұрын

Bronze Medalist Midori Ito

@modka613

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Why do people always udermine her? "Japanese lady"... Say her name, she deserves it!

I’m sorry I don’t know the girls names- but it’s sad. The teenage girl who won silver at the Olympics was having a mental breakdown because she did 5 quad jumps and believed she should’ve won. Instead she lost to her more artistic teammate I believe. It’s interesting because your video is a year old, and you saw that the judges preferred the artistic skating over just athleticism.

@clisaa6974

2 жыл бұрын

Poor girl who was upset from winning silver . I know people were harsh on her and called her poor sportsmanship . But like these Russian skaters go through sooooooooo much abuse it’s sad. They have such old and barbaric methods these coaches don’t care about the long term health of these skaters but only care about their health through there competing career . Maybe this Eteri coach makes winners but at what cost? And it’s all over a sport 🙈I think sports are great but competitive careers of most gymnasts and figure skaters are extremely short and in the end are just a small part of there lives in the end and then what???

@michellexbeauty9832

2 жыл бұрын

@@clisaa6974 They get a medal and that’s it. World recognition but at what cost? Eteri’s girls retire by 18 due to medical issues most of the time. Was it worth a medal? I don’t think so personally. It is sad. I think her name is Sasha who won silver. I wish her happiness, she deserves a better coach

@clisaa6974

2 жыл бұрын

@@michellexbeauty9832 Right! Ice skating like gymnastics is a sport with high injury rate and as you said at what cost? It is just not worth it. I watched a video on Evgenia Medevova and was shocked poor girl recently at 22 had to retire cause she screwed up her back badly and can't turn left comfortably or something. It is crazy.( I mean now she is making good money with being a media personality and from sponsorships), but still! it is sad for sure.

@sandracahu

2 жыл бұрын

@@clisaa6974.

@depgabby

2 жыл бұрын

Her quads are prerotated and the edges are suspicious… I have trouble considering them true quads. Like when they gave the gold to Sotnikova who had quite literally cheated toe jumps throughout her entire performance

I skated until I was 17 and only got to double jumps, but I still spent my whole childhood in pain, seeing my physiotherapist and chiropractor every week, not being able to go to gym class, wearing tapes everywhere and getting huge bruises on my feet. My back is pretty much recovered but I think my knees will hurt forever, I can’t even begin to imagine the damages those jumps do to these young girls’ health

@menervazeita

2 жыл бұрын

It's really devastating for those young underdeveloped bodies!

@sinthamarchiani

2 жыл бұрын

I experienced the same exact thing, I've skated from age 4-16 years old. Skating really gave me a love and hate relationship, it felt like skating took all my childhood away, when my friends can go out on weekend, I had to practice and practice for hours. I got to land a few triple jumps, but.. all the pain physically and mentally, my childhood, and idk what else I missed while spending my entire childhood for skating.. It must be really hard for this young girls gone through, especially Kamila with the whole world focusing on her

@Emidoki

2 жыл бұрын

Why won't they better protect these girls? I don't understand...

@ahnguyen1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Emidoki cause they only care about themselves

@cristinagalmarini3434

2 жыл бұрын

@@Emidoki Money that's why.

Brian is by far my fav figure skating coach. He has coached Yuna, Yuzu, Javi, and so many other famous skaters out there

@anthyavila9726

3 жыл бұрын

Aside from their achievements, he doesn't run his skaters to the ground. You'd think that were the minimum, but after what happened to Yulia and how Alina was treated before and after Pyeongchang, it apparently isn't a requirement for a "great coach." 🤷‍♀

@PandAlex

3 жыл бұрын

I really love Brain and his boys (plus Yuna), but I love Eteri’s girls too)

@beasamson2736

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthyavila9726 I agree I think he’s a good coach, but he was pretty shady with Yuna Kim toward their separation ngl..

@strangelylookingperson

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite coach is actually Mr Smith from Alabama. He's not making any Olympic champions or even state champions but he is really nice bloke, and, behind a point of beer he can tell you a lot of funny stories.

@geanolsbar

3 жыл бұрын

George Calm this is a really sweet comment :]

People defending tuberitze under this video and claiming the girls were not victims because they were successful are truly scary, for their enjoyment they will purposely ignore child abuse right in front of their eyes, hunger games style

@user-ii4ii7wt3b

2 жыл бұрын

God, you don't know much about Russia, it's inappropriate to write.

@pinkjacketX0X0

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-ii4ii7wt3b can you explain how that's not true?

@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BB

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever wondered why Tutberidze's students are so successful? Or why Soviet gymnasts were legendary? Some elements they performed even have been banned because of health risks. In a competitive sports, especially such as figure skating, gymnastics, acrobatics, almost nothing is possible without a things that you call a child abuse. These athletes know this, their parents know this, fans know this, coaches know this. If you accept competitive sports than you automatically accept this. Overworking, injuries, health issues for the rest of your life most likely, pressure etc. I'm not defending Tutberidze, I don't care about her. These kids are not victims of anyone, they are athletes, which means they are victims of figure skating. Coach is just a person who helps them to reach hights and the more tough is this coach the more successful they'll be

@random-dm5md

9 ай бұрын

​@@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BByou have to be a child

@margodphd

4 ай бұрын

​@@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BBSo , what you are saying that child athletes can agree to the abuse because their parents and coaches (who directly benefit from that abuse) pressure them?

Thanks a lot for this video! As a Russian, I can confirm that I am fully stressed out by the injustice of the Eteri bonus, crazy media fights and extremely toxic atmosphere. This is why I so admire Elizaveta Tuktamysheva and her coach Alexey Mishin for their rational and calm approach to the skating, with the support and true love instead of abuse and toxic behaviour.

@ChienaAvtzon

2 жыл бұрын

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva is so inspirational. As an American, it is so wonderful seeing a grown Russian woman compete. I wish Canada had granted Evgenia Medvedeva citizenship, so that she did not have to return to Russia to be abused.

@denisecampbell6736

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always enjoyed Her Imperial Majesty’s (😉) skating & ITA : It is wonderful to see an actual Russian LADY competing out there. I really loved her FS all the way back in October at Skate Canada. Such a perfect Program for her & was she ever having a blast performing it too!! 😁. I also remember the very first time she came over for Skate Canada. This seemingly adorable precocious little Russian girl getting her feet wet at her first Senior GP Event & doing everything w/the biggest grin on her face. I remember thinking, “She’s got a bright future...” Then she skated & we all went...😱. Hard to believe it was all those years ago & I’ve literally watched her grow up in front of my eyes. I was really pulling for her to finally skate on Olympic Ice, but sadly...We all know the rest. 😪. I’ve been thinking a lot about The Empress the last 2 days & wondering how she must be feeling watching all of this take place. She must also be wondering how many Olympic Teams did she miss a legitimate chance of being on? I know presumed innocence before guilt, but there’s just too much precedence from the last 8 years of how that “Woman” treats her Skaters, plus the too high Marks/GOE, etc, etc, etc... Not that Liza hasn’t had her own issues w/entries on certain jumps, but over time she worked on it &, for the most part, has solid technique now. It’s only when things start really going downhill those old habits creep back in. Even that doesn’t happen as often as it did even a couple of years ago. She keeps on fighting, even when she knows the odds are next to impossible, Liza still keeps fighting & I respect that. I also know this was her last chance to make an Olympic Team more than likely, which is beyond a shame, as well as sad. I hope she comes & skates in Stars on Ice here in Canada one of these days. I’d love to see her skate live. All Hail The Empress!!!! I was hoping Elizaveta would put a rabbit out of a hat & end up making the Team to Beijing, but I also knew the likelihood of that happening was slim to none too.

@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BB

Жыл бұрын

@@ChienaAvtzon I have been seeing Medvedeva acting in a Russian tv show and attending some entertaining shows recently, where she seemed to have fun. From that I assumed she is enjoying her retirement from skating. And from what I've seen there her and Alina Zagitova are good friends)

"imagine your friend enjoys figureskating but theyre constantly stressing about some russians" literally never heard of them in my life but im invested

That Powerpuff Girls 3A edit is spot on! Great video!

@paolala

3 жыл бұрын

thank you!!

@Soofi1906

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing comparison and great editing with all that!!!

@Agniya_M

3 жыл бұрын

What is great?! She just sits accuses Eteri with all the shity gossip, she was paid by Plushenko nothing more, as you won't find any neural opinion but just accusing Eteri.

@julceearendaying6255

3 жыл бұрын

@@Agniya_M Paid by Plush? 😂 Come on, she's just one of the FS fans. This is great as it's well-researched and well-edited video regarding the FS drama.

@SkyCloudSilence

3 жыл бұрын

Literally brilliant.

this is a great video! here after Kamila’s 2022 Olympic performance (and positive drug test). Kamila and all of these ladies deserve better. this needs to be talked about more

@robotdowney

2 жыл бұрын

Poor Alexandra was so fed up

The narrative of Eteri girl's career: "Burn bright but briefly" sums it up!

"A japanese lady" ma'am her name is midori ito and you need to put respect on her name what

@estefaniaperez4436

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@salmaakhtar5973

3 жыл бұрын

right wtf,,, so disrespectful

@bluedasher74

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think she meant to be disrespectful. She didn't mention her name because it was not relevant to what she was discussing in that moment.

@Brighe-2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@sagefantaisie why are you making such a big deal about it?

@BreezeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluedasher74 i mean.... tonya’s wasn’t relevant either and she still mentioned

Evgenia stole my heart. I love her show performances shes done and her interactions with fans. I will always root for her.

@S0FIAV

2 жыл бұрын

samEEE

anna scherbakova sounded kind of like an underdog. im so glad she won the olympic gold, very well deserved.

@rockstermaniac

2 жыл бұрын

Anna has the better scoring quad jump that Trusova rarely lands but jumps fewer quads overall... however she is also closer to Kostornaia in terms of presentation so on a good day Anna can crush both of them but only if she perfectly lands her jumps.

@Emma-kd2vh

Жыл бұрын

@@KKKK-bl4cg i just meant that, in terms of united states skating commentary, people always talked about how valieva was going to win or how trusova had all the quads... it didnt seem like people thought scherbakova was going to get gold. like objectively, she probably is the most consistant/best skater of the bunch, but she was not the most talked about (at least in US)

I need a nextflix series out of all this drama.

@juve3030

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Icarus on netflix and you'll learn about Russian doping.

“If not for the covid pandemic, this would not even be a conversation”. This hit me hard. Evgenia deserves better. I feel bad for her. I was really hoping to see Evgenia in the 2021 Russian Nationals. I was really hoping to see Evgenia perform under the direction of Coach Brian Orser. If not for her recurring injuries, Evgenia would be on God-level. Nevertheless, she is still and will always be one of the best skaters in figure skating history.

@michaelcunningham795

3 жыл бұрын

She was at the ‘21 Nationals. In the stands watching and applauding.

@mariajesseannegloria3026

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcunningham795 yeah. At first I was very sad she wasn’t able to compete. But as Genia always emphasized, her health and recovery is her priority. I’m looking forward to her long and magnificent career as a skater once she has recovered. :)

@Askhat08

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariajesseannegloria3026 Hello from Russia. Medvedeva is nothing more than a retired skater, fans love her but nobody believes she can ever be a top skater and rival girls like Anna, Kamila and Sasha.

@mariajesseannegloria3026

3 жыл бұрын

@@Askhat08 That’s the unspoken truth. It’s sad but I want to remain hopeful. She hasn’t given up yet so I won’t stop believing in her just yet. :)

@rayneforresy640

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariajesseannegloria3026 the good thing about zhenya is definitely her strong Will. She really wants to be able to go to Beijing 2022, to the point she even went to orser, despite all the backlash that she took. Mad respect for her. Too bad her talents on ice itself isnt enough to compete in the deep pool of Russian ladies, Now that they push for quads (tho IMO those quads are sus since prerotation and questionable edges from scherbakova and trusova). fixing her jump is very hard now that she's maturing into adulthood. Being able to place 3rd in nats itself is almost impossible IMO unless the quadster mess up a lot. Let alone winning olympic. still wishing the best of her despite all the hard path ahead

So.....for Olympic 2022...Eteri will have Evegnia(if she can make it) the artistic queen, Anna the stable underdog, Kamila the performance master, and Daria the quiet underdog. Then Plushenko has Trusova the quad firecracker, and Alena the graceful swan. The Russians know how to bring the drama but the 2021-2022 season is going to be movie worthy.

@andreaoliveroskinen9590

3 жыл бұрын

Anna is the new Russian championship winner...

@michaelcunningham795

3 жыл бұрын

@@andreaoliveroskinen9590 I think it’s so interesting that Anna is always counted out, yet has won the Nationals all three years running since she came up from the Juniors.

@grigol101

3 жыл бұрын

But you forgot about the Team Mishin, Davydov and others. Liza Tuktamysheva and others will still compete for a place in the national team.

@GrippiAlex

3 жыл бұрын

@@grigol101 Liza is one of my long time favourites and yes she should be included. She is very reliable with her jumps and as she is older she has the maturity that others don’t. I loved her programs. She missed out before and she shouldn’t miss out again.lets hope she makes it. Regards from Aust🇦🇺

@michaelcunningham795

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting comments. IMO , Tori has nailed it well. IMHO, Zhenya (Medvedeva) has had her day. Aggravated old injuries (and maybe new ones) will keep her off the team. Her move to Orser to learn quads with a mature body late in her career has cost her. Zhenya knew that she would need quads to up her competitive game with the new level brought on by Javie and Yuzuru. So she went to the source, but too late. Could it be that Eteri recognized that it was too late for Zhenya to acquire these skills? It’s been Eteri’s epiphany and MO to train these skills to preadolescents when their bodies are more trainable and made of ‘rubber’. These are elements best learned with young, resilient, small, thin, light bodies with developing quick twitch muscle response, when muscle memory can be trained with less penalty. Zhenya has entered her Katerina Witt period where she will be adored for the greatness she achieved in her relatively short peak, but her podium days are passed. In any case, no quads or 3A in her quiver, and lost flexibility due to the wages of age will keep her out of the running, even if healthy. Tuktamysheva had one last grab at the brass ring at Rostelcom. I was very happy for her ‘phoenix’ showing. With Anna absent, and the 3 Team Tut 14 year olds ineligible, it was likely her last chance for a last hurrah, and she held it together. It was heart warming to watch. She has no consistent big jumps to land, only triple combos. Still a beautiful skater when she can hold it together for a whole program, but that’s been not very often for the last long while. I personally think that Kosternaia and Trusova are suffering with Plushenko as the hot head tries to learn how to coach. His attitude and temper has always been his worst flaw in competition, and it won’t help his new endeavor. Thumbs down to you, Evgeni. On paper, Alena and Sasha should have gone 1-2 at Rostelcom, but I think their new affiliation has cost them. Tuktamysheva was the benefactor of the situation. As to those who whine about ‘over scoring’, you don’t understand scoring and complain because your favorites come up short. Scoring is complex, and far from straight forward - judging is composite between specialist judges that each score specific aspects of the programs. If you think that you can keep up with them in real time as one pair of eyes (without the instant review tech that they use), you’re fooling yourself. Download the ISU handbook and humble yourself. High risk jumps aren’t all there is, and the scoring for these is pretty well codified and risk is rewarded. Transitions, spins, step sequences, and artful presentation add up too. Anna’s big FS score at the Nationals was a function of two landed quads, trademark spins, and no ‘dead time’ skating between elements. Ditto for Kamila after the first three jumps (which suited her Bolero program perfectly). The sport has moved on.

4:50 "I fall getting out of bed" MOOD Also, props to these commentators! It would have been so easy to seem disappointed by her fall, but they just seemed so supportive and kind!

We need more coaches like mine. My coach(Igor) was trained by a Olympic coach and became a senior by the time he was 15-16. While living in Russia, he actually new Eteri. Then he moved to the states when he was around 30 to 40 and became a coach for my skating club. He taught group lessons and private lessons. He was kind, and tried his hardest to make us laugh and during tough times. He was also very patient. I am very proud to have him as my coach and as my figure skating best friend.

im not russian or a figure skater but im invested in this drama

@arabellaaaa151

2 жыл бұрын

YES SAME

@k.r.hayman4633

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly NOT REQUIREMENTS!!!! LOOK @ ALL THE COMMENTS........

"I have never seen anything like that in any individual sport." Never watched Rhythmic Gymnastics? It has a 2 per country rule that gives the chance for other countries to get a bronze spot. Russian girls are so awesome, they take top medal positions for decades. Irina Viner (the coach) also has controversal methods, but she has top girls over 20 that are still competing: Ekaterina Selezneva is 25 (World Champion), Anastasia Ilyinichna Bliznyuk is 26 (2 time Olympic Champion), Anastasia Ivanovna Maksimova is 29 (Olympic Champion)!!! The russian ice skating is like Game of Thrones...wow

@innikr1234

3 жыл бұрын

Maksimova is 29?!?!? What?!?! I'm also interested in RG but more on singles, not so much groups, BUT WHAT?!?

@RedShoes29

Жыл бұрын

I think it comes down to technique. Shizuka Arakawa (first Japanese FS Olympic gold medalist) can still jump triples and triple-double combos in ice shows. She's FORTY YEARS OLD. Other Russian coaches have also successfully coached adult FS skaters. Eteri's camp not only has bad technique they also rely on repetition and low body weight making injuries more likely. Iirc one of her students, a 15 year old girl, literally shattered her hips during a comp practice. It's insane.

Gifting a bouquet of flowers to your teachers and mentors is actually very common in Russia. Every year children attend a ceremony of the beginning of the school and sometimes they gift flowers to their teachers. It also happens when the students graduate and want to thank their class teacher. I am a university student in Russia. And even now we present something to our professors at the end of the year when we have to say goodbye to them as they won't have to teach us the next semester.

@peaceflowerstudios6833

10 ай бұрын

You missed the spirit of the discussion

@raerohan4241

9 ай бұрын

​@@peaceflowerstudios6833 They did. But I appreciate the cultural insight. Won't lessen my dislike for Eteri at all, but it gives some context, which I like knowing.

It seems like birth year is very important with the Russian figure skaters...if you are 15/16 during the Winter Olympics you have a much better shot than someone 17/18 when they come around

@ninaspark1219

2 жыл бұрын

👏 Absolutely! That's what happened to Medvedeva and Zagitova.

@LAZISH

2 жыл бұрын

Well. Anna Shcherbakova is almost 18. But, she won the 2022 winter olympics gold LOLz.

@cecily3797

2 жыл бұрын

@@LAZISH yeah but Valieva (15) was the one supoused to win, but lost on porpouse so they could have the others medals

so much effort went into this video, it definitely deserves more recognition!!

@paolala

3 жыл бұрын

aww thank you much!! it literally took me a week to get it good enough to post

@ifrena

3 жыл бұрын

@@paolala i love your editing and the whole video was so well done !! when i was 5 mins in i checked how many views it had literally expecting it to have 1 mil

@paolala

3 жыл бұрын

@@ifrena you making me blush

@Agniya_M

3 жыл бұрын

It's just a paid video by Plushenko, nothing else than accusing Eteri how bad she is. Only gathered the gossip, has she ever done something worth in her life...

@MalinaBellk

3 жыл бұрын

So many lies here ! The statements here are biased! The facts in this video are twisted incredibly!

I love how you called Rozanov 'Hot Sergey'

@user-rd2fv9ew5r

3 жыл бұрын

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@user-gg9uu9kx9w

3 жыл бұрын

People have been calling him that for years

@user-ng6jr3rf7i

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gg9uu9kx9w Oh, I never heard it in Russian. That's how I watch figure skating.

@drsalka

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ng6jr3rf7i TSA guys started calling Rozanov Hot Sergei abt 2 seasons back and it picked up from there :)))

The fact that you said Anna was the least talked about (true) and now she is an olympian medalist❤️

Trusova's meltdown at the Beijing 2022 Olympics and exchanging some fiery words to Eteri is worth talking about.

I missed the Troika. What Kostornai, Scherbakova and Trusova accomplished during the 2019/20 season before cvoid fell upon us, was unmatched. These young ladies have truly transitioned the sport of figure skating forever. With their unique styles and phenomenal skating ability.

How are all these Russian girls so beautiful and so talented ? As much drama as their is they have really brought figure skating to the forefront of women's sports. It brought me back to skating after 30 years and even my 14 yr old who is a ballet dancer has fallen in love in figure skating and I have to say it was the Russian skaters who got me back in to my love of skating.

@thatcoffee

3 жыл бұрын

Because state funding for extracurricular activities combined with rigorous selection on body type for sports/arts like figure skating, ballet and rhythmical gymnastics are still in place today since Soviet times. They make sure that they can train the right type of children to succeed in certain types of sports pretty easily. The hands-on delegated expertise of the past 5-6 decades or so by many coaches to their pupils (esp. in ballet tho that is) also plays a role.

@lucasblackburn3178

3 жыл бұрын

Abuse it’s so obvious

@mrOL100

3 жыл бұрын

in the end, no one forces them to stay in the sport. The weak go away, the strong remain. This is natural. If figure skating is an easy hobby for a girl, she will leave and there will be no results, if figure skating is the meaning of life, she will do everything to win.

@princess-ky2iq

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a ballet dancer who also wants to figure skate but im scared

@89Pogg

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrOL100 есть и другие причины... История Анны Семенович. Люди и не знают, что она была фигуристкой. Чемпион Москвы серебряный призер России. Из-за болезни завершила карьеру.

I’m surprised Anna is the least favorite she has artistry and strength she’s the middle ground and I rly love her

@rockstermaniac

2 жыл бұрын

its because shes the middle ground... Ever watch people discuss politics? Doing everything well isnt as cool as doing one thing exceptionally...

Well…. Can’t wait for PART 2 after the recent events 😬😬😬 This chaos was so well explained and edited, awesome job 💫 (here’s a bouquet 💐😛)

@SkipperSurfReview

2 жыл бұрын

Second bouquet from me!

@reginagorelik1219

2 жыл бұрын

Third bouquet from me!!! 💐

Lemme put it bluntly, Eteri's training encourages anorexia and early retirement in women's skating Edit: to anyone commenting “sore losers” or whatever look at the recent doping news and maybe learn how to care even a little bit about young athletes

@HelloKitty-kb7ji

3 жыл бұрын

I so much hope they will increase the age limit to 17 or 18. Then Eteri will be gone in a single season

@camila-wb4eg

3 жыл бұрын

pffft and the fat ass of Daniil that makes disgusted faces when the girls fall in a competition even that he is worse

@michaelcunningham795

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! You’re probably a fan of Dance of the Hours in Fantasia. Hippos doing ballet and all. 😂 It’s simple physics. Moment of inertia. Slender bodies turn faster. Just watch Anna as she tightens her leg position - together - while she is airborne. Her rotation accelerates visibly. Certain sports demand certain physiques. None of these ladies would do well in the NHL, if you catch my drift. If they pay attention to their training, diet, and develop their natural gifts with patience and top coaching/encouragement, they have an opportunity to excel, if their growth genetics doesn’t betray their ambitions. Don’t whine about anorexia. Sure it can happen - like with Lipnitzkaya, but she had psych issues under pressure as well. Baiul had a drinking problem. These are individual personal problems. Zhenya isn’t anorexic, nor is she too old. She’s just banged up from all her time on the ice, and her body has matured in a way that isn’t going to be conducive to racking up scores with quads. It happens, it’s a tough demanding sport. And the CV-19 residuals may not allow her full recovery. That’s sad, but it’s not anyone’s fault. Yuzuru is flirting with that banged up condition too, but he’s blessed with that slender, wiry, fast twitch musculature and he might make it to a third Games gold it he tends to business, watches his diet, and woodsheds to hone the last bit of his potential. And that seems to be what he’s doing. At the Japan Nationals, no black circles under his eyes, great verticality and axial alignment on his rotations, terrific choreography as always - he’s never looked so healthy and together at the same time. He’s got a hell of an incentive with Nathan blossoming to challenge him as he has. It’s an exciting time for the sport. It’s now a young person’s sport. That’s not Eteri’s fault. She’s only facilitated the skaters development and achievements in a more efficient and timely manner. Now there’s 12 year olds doing quads, and they don’t all skate for her. She was just the first one to figure it out - that preadolescent girls could do it earlier, easier than anyone else. And I agree with the comment about Daniil’s choreography being revelatory. That he develops programs to accentuate and work to the individual talents of the skaters he designs for is exemplary. To watch Kamila immediately followed by Anna at the Russian Nationals, how different and beautiful could two programs be. Bookend those skates with Maiia’s and Daria’s - that’s a lot of variety. Kudos to Daniil. And I agree with the comments regarding Alena and Sasha and their training challenges. Personally, I wish anyone but Evgeni was training them. He’s not a good influence psychologically, and his coaching abilities are a big ? mark. I hope all of you enjoyed the Russian Nationals. Those skates at the end, Sasha’s included, were skating history.

@MuroVCP

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcunningham795 lmao you really compared me denouncing poor diets as explained in the vid AND REPORTED BY MANY OF ETERIS FORMER SKATERS to "hippos" dancing, thats disgusting. Yes a slender and small body in YOUNG skaters works...until they grow (as they need to naturally if healthy) and then they lack the muscle mass to keep up. This has happened over and over again. Im not a fan of the new couch either although he had a much longer career than any of eteris skaters. Its not just yulia. I am an athlete myself and we need to encourage longevity. You are making excuses for eteri and harmful practices that destroy young bodies and encourage early retirement. Also yuzuru hanyu has struggled with asthma and is A LOT (as far as competitive skating goes) older than the girls you are comparing... whew ima just not even go farther because you clearly dont know wtf ur talking about, its just unfortunate children r involved and suffer from the ISU's negligence.

@MuroVCP

3 жыл бұрын

Let me make this clearer for the ppl in the back. Quads r exciting, but not when it is a. Done poorly (flutz floops) and b. IS NOT SUPPORTED BY PROPER CARE FOR THE BODY AND APPROPRIATE MUSCLE MASS BUILDING. eteribots r wack

15:55 was a japanese lady? Midori Friggin Ito did not jumped those huge 3A just to be called as some japanese lady hahaha

@tynealeoni8999

3 жыл бұрын

ikr

@helenxar9405

2 жыл бұрын

wait I could have sworn this comment had other comments too

@rosie6

2 жыл бұрын

Right it’s very disrespectful. She is a legend. Just because she is Japanese doesn’t mean she was on the same level as tonya

@cecily3797

2 жыл бұрын

She didn't do it to disrespect her, I agree, it could have been said in a better way but sometimes when you talk a lot you get lost in some details and neglect others. I prefer not to condemn a mistake because it has happened to all of us, the only difference is that you can repeat her mistake because it's on video, if our mistakes were on video I assure you that people would judge us even worse

@petalchild

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that bothered me too

Fascinating insight after the heartbreaking performances and post competition behaviors of the ROC’s team, coaches and trainers at Beijing 2022 this week. This Coach Eteri and her team need to be reviewed; no athlete should go through what the young Russian skater had to go through.

@evgenemayer5623

2 жыл бұрын

why did the press announce doping before Camila's performances? Why dragged on for more than a month with this?

@Sochic100

2 жыл бұрын

@@evgenemayer5623 Apparently the Russian Anti-Doping agency RUSADA hadn’t released the results until Feb. 8th and suspended her from competing. The press was just reporting developments as they were unfolding.

@ptrgr72

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sochic100 You are misinforming. Wada tested the samples in their lab in Stockholm, 1 day after the competition, although the sample was since December? Guess why?

seeing these videos pop up makes me feel so comforted because i personally experienced abuse from a psycho coach for 7 years. it makes me glad to know that similar behavior is being called out more and more often and that the mental health of athletes is starting to become more relevant. i genuinely hope that one day the mistreatment of athletes of any sport ever stops.

@user-xu7zo4rr7v

2 жыл бұрын

there is no child abuse on the part of the coaching staff. just watch their everyday videos, they are all friendly with each other and their coaches are pretty cute, although everyone seems like they are a fiend from hell. The only child abuse was on the part of the IOC, who thought it would be cool to accuse the athlete of doping and put pressure on her with responsibility.

"even though he's actually chubby and gay" LMAOOOO i love you

I just got into following figure skating and watching this was really informative. Also this would make a great drama series

@paolala

3 жыл бұрын

agreed! i'm so glad people are finding this useful. Also, welcome to the fs community it'll definitely entertain if nothing else hahaha

@bwoahman1666

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words

“Anna is the least talked about one” However she is the World and Olympic Champion

@watchmedo635

Жыл бұрын

She’s still the least talked about, ironically :/

@bunkerhillguy2542

Жыл бұрын

@@watchmedo635 I think that is messed up!!

Ah yes. I am here after the mess at the 2022 Olympics. This explains a LOT. Thank you.

I’m so upset that Evgenia went back to Eteri. 🤦🏼‍♀️🥴like girl wtf. It sucks that COVID screwed so much for these athletes. I loved Brian and Zhenyas relationship. 😭he was such a father to her. I wish the best for these girls.

@ckilbarger01

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like once Evgenia can go back to Cricket Club with her mom, she's going to go.

@lindatannock

3 жыл бұрын

@@ckilbarger01 I hope so!!

@PandAlex

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Eugenia can make good money in Russia with Eteri…

@ego_peyseyshestvo

3 жыл бұрын

@@PandAlex I don't think you can make a lot of money from competitions?,, especially with quad team taking all the podium

@PandAlex

3 жыл бұрын

@@ego_peyseyshestvo not from competition) Eugenia right now skate at different shows and ice rink openings. And she again had commercial contracts.

"Figure skating is a sport where the young and most importantly young uninjured bodies triumph". Maybe in the ladies but noother discipline

this video literally helped me understand everything and the events that just happened today just adds even more drama to the pot

Paola, in a KZread world where everyone is a presenter, love your voice and presentation style. Great documentary!

Seeing the girls cry broke my heart Evgenia Alina both of them suffered so muchlike eteri what should i say to this woman i mean they are growing children.. Evgenia really went through a lot for keeping up with her coach's favoritism and expectations..

@krisfujimoto72

2 жыл бұрын

My real concern is with Eteri's liquid diet and the overall nutritional component of what it takes to execute quads and triples. A person needs strength and power to execute as well as great muscle tone. Those girls look like anorexics.

I lost it at the Powerpuff girls 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I knew nothing of figure skating until I saw the Beijing 2022 free skate and the after math with Trusova , valieva and eteri, searched the internet for context and this video summed up the history and context so well - cheers!

Watching this all over again after the drama/sickening abuse at the 2022 Olympics is just such a trip.

14:18 - you have never seen anything like that because some sports like gymnastics has a "two out of country" rule, which totally eliminates the possibility of such a podium. Otherwise, you would see Americans dominating in WAG for a quad and Russians dominating in rhythmic gymnastics for more then 20 years now

@ela5640

2 жыл бұрын

exactly!!

This documentary was gut wrenching. It was very interesting and detailed, you make it perfectly understandable for people who barely know anything about the skating community!

This short documentary is damn well crafted and explained, great job Paola :)

The bouqet thing is so funny because when I left my lowkey toxic soviet coach of 10 years (I'm a rhythmic gymnast btw but still) when I came to say that I'm transferring clubs I brought her flowers and her first words were, "oh, what is the celebration?!" And it was the most bittersweet memory I have of her.

I actually went to the 2018 Olympics and saw Medvedeva and Zagitova's gold medal battle live. I had no idea the amount of drama that was going on. Now it's hard to look away

I love your sassiness/memes/references to pop culture and your well researched video essays that keep things in perspective. Your lovely persaonlity shines through.

This is such a great explanation of the background on these figure skaters from this year's Olympics. Love your witty comments too 😉 *subscribed* and will look for your commentary on the Olympics 👀 thank you!

This video was AWESOME! I freaking hate this coach- always have. But the way you put this together made it entertaining and not JUST anger-inducing. :) Thanks for making it fun! And also we need an update. Cause.... y'all know this Olympics B crazy. ;'D

Thank you for this very informative and strangely interesting video. I loved every second of it, even though I'm only a casual viewer turning my TV on every 4 years when it's Olympics time. I knew figure skating fandom was a thing, but I had absolutely NO clue it might ever be this big and full of spicy drama :D

you should make a part 2 after everything that happened at the olympics

Lmao my friend is really into figure skating, specially women’s figure skating and I remember just like a week ago we were freaking out over Kamila Valieva’s performance at the Olympics. Now here I am… this is so SO much more than I expected jeez..

I love this video. I love your delivery. It fits the drama perfectly!

@joshknightfall

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, wait, wait. You can’t just throw in a baby-stealing plot at the backend like that!!! >.

I’m only half way through this video but I already love it. I mean its a sad story but your video is the first of many that has actually explained the drama. Thank you because after many years, I could finally understand it.

Well this is a freaking great video that suddenly appeared in my feed. Thank you for excellent work!

I will never forget seeing those scales she made those kids weight on when I was 13 or so, and then people are shocked they can’t maintain skills

Just imagine the pressure and pain that these women have to go through.

what i find interesting (read: sad) is that generally in the other three disciplines of figure skating (mens, pairs and dance) you consistently see skaters in two different quads, and some of the best in 3+ quads. but it seems to be incredibly rare to see a female skater in more than 1 quad (obviously there are exceptions but it doesnt seem to be the norm). my view on it is that there seems to be more of a lack of regard for the females body, that it doesnt matter if their career doesnt last because their body is too injured to be successful for more than four years, instead what matters is that the coach always has someone on top of the podium.

Well this feels particularly ominous considering what we just saw happen at the Olympics. This is a really well done video, thank you for explaining this in a really interesting way with some small comedy relief lol this coach is awful

I always wondered why the men were so muscular and strong, landing quads and triples but the “women” (girls) were so tiny and underweight doing the same. It honestly is not worth the damage to their body. Ice dancers (females) have much more muscle mass and it just did not compute in my head.

Yuzuru Hanyu and Yuna Kim trained by Brian and Tracy team are perfect skaters

@mackintoshmuggleton1639

3 жыл бұрын

Yes because Eteri produces robot skaters.

@wickedwitch7456

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like Brian coaches his athletes for a longer lasting career while eteri just suck the life out of her athletes until there's nothing left after they hit the eteri expiration date

@alexanderbakulin8836

3 жыл бұрын

​@@wickedwitch7456 brian orser had coached yuna kim for 3 years, from 16 to 19 yo (she left him in 2010 with a scandal, yuna mom was calling brian a liar etc). 3 years is "a long career" now? orser had never coached an adult lady to success, all his abilities in that department is making loud statements and insulting more succesful coaches. i'm not an eteri fan, but she proved that brian orser is incompetent in ladies figure skating. by guiding tursynbaeva to worlds silver medal (btw at the time elizabeth was a couple months older than yuna, when yuna left orser). the best result that tursynbaeva had with brian is 9th place at worlds. eteri brought her from 13th place at the olympics (under orser) to 2nd place at worlds, just in a year. that's also unlike anything that orser have ever done, skaters that winning under brian were already winning with their previous coaches (yuna kim was already a junior world champion, when she came to orser). and you can't compare men's figure skating to ladies, there's different physiology. morisi kvitelashvili is 26 yo, and his career is lasting like forever with eteri. brian orser can't train adult ladies to success. that's a fact. but he is trash talking like he's an expert on long lasting ladies careers, like he is mishin or something.

@wickedwitch7456

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbakulin8836 sorry but i wrote that when my only knowledge about eteri is through this video, so now, I've changed my mind about her. Although i still don't like her, she truly is one heck of a coach. And aslo, maybe Brian's coaching does not work well with ladies just like etiri can't really work with men, but that just my amateur opinion.

@user-fc2xv2fo7x

2 жыл бұрын

Hanyu Yuna asian skaters .Brian Canadian skaters ?

Omg it feels like I was waiting for a video like this for a thousand years. Sooooo good, omg, thank you ❤️

@paolala

3 жыл бұрын

so glad i could help!!!

Well. I'm 50-year old female from the country of Georgia. My friend from Georgia is also of my age. She's got sportsmaster's title in artistic gymnastics at age 15 and retired from professional sports at age 17 (typical retirement age for gymnasts). Methods used to train her and maintain her body parameters were the same as used by Ms. Tutberidze. She was trained almost 24/7, lived at special boarding sports school, was constantly undernourished and dehydrated. The method was commonly used for all gymnasts across the Soviet Union and guess was used for figure skaters too. I assume that the application of such "inhuman" methods are continued at present days in Russia. I also assume that Chinese are using similar methods. So, nothing unique is applied by Ms. Tutberidze. She's just continuing old Soviet traditions. Also, the competition creates the demand. The trend is that both figure skating and gymnastics have been becoming younger and younger. This trend is not created by Ms. Tutberidze but by the international market.

@stewartbeckman7909

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your honesty. It is sincerely appreciated. All of these negative comments prove just how gullible people really are. Seems like the world is becoming one big school of sucker fish... Congratulations! Your just walked off the cliff just like the morons before you... Never forget that attention is the most valuable commodity in the universe and where ever the masses are gathering you can bet it's being manipulated...

@wheresbaby7783

5 ай бұрын

Is true with gymnastics is getting older

Wow! This is truly excellent analysis!! Congratulations on doing such a great job and thank you for taking the trouble to edit it and present it. I know it took a lot of time and effort on your part. I think you have a future in reporting!!! As for the skating, what would you say about all the CRAZINESS going on now with the Russians at the Beijing Olympics involving their superstar pupil Kamila Valieva?!! Can you believe it? As outstanding as all these girls are that you presented in the video, none of them compare to what Valieva has been able to accomplish in only this season. Honestly, I'd never seen a more superb skater both in artistry and technical ability in my life. It's such a shame that she's now involved in this doping scandal.

Thank you for putting this all together. I would have never understood or been able to piece it together. I started watching figure skating through yuzu but after, I started really getting into each skater and the Russian girls (Evgenia and Alina) I could see some tension in their performance and podium but never was able to understand it all. Thanks you very much for the video!

The "less injured" part took me out🤣🤣

Hey Pa8la ... Thanks for making & sharing this, it makes all sorts of sense. I knew when we first saw Julias in Olympic team competition, this was already on another level & we watched her expire before those games were even over.

This was great!! Have not been watching for a few years and it is good to have this background.

You call it clownery and yet you can't stop watching this. Because damn this is good. And God knows we need some of good old drama. What else to watch? Figure skating is literally dead elsewhere.

@randomalienfrommars0567

3 жыл бұрын

I totally get that but it's very heartbreaking that this petty drama between adults results in dozens of young girls with broken bodies and minds who end up retiring and not growing to full potential

@simtopia2334

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't seem dead in Japan to me, we're seeing talented ladies coming from South Korea also. I like Russian Figure Skating but more for Mishin skaters, Moskvina in pairs, coaches that have brought a more organic friendly approach, and they keep certain traditions of Russian skating alive, but also very successful coaches and brought multiple skaters to Olympic and World medals. Even Tarasova had her Eteri moment but she was way more iconic. (and successful across multiple disciplines, not just ladies)

@joeblack7942

3 жыл бұрын

@@simtopia2334 I guess it is a matter of choice and personal preferences. I like what is going on now because it is exciting than let's say in 2007 when there was basically no decent women skaters in Russia and the team arely made it to the Europeans.

@ewright2806

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeblack7942 yeah who cares about the actual people when it's entertaining right? 🙄

So informative & well made! Crazy that 2/3 of 3A just made the Olympic podium.

Damn you should win a Pulitzer for all the work you put into research for this video. I learned so much! Now the whole doping scandal in Beijing makes a lot more sense.

This is so much information, honestly, and you make it so interesting!!!!

I'm not really into figure skating, but I sure love a good drama/tea spilling story :) Thanks! Tutberidze reminds me a bit of a major watered down version of rhytmic gymnastics mogul Irina Viner

I’m a rhythmic gymnastics girl, but after this video I’m pretty sure I’m also a figure skating girl. This is JUICY 🍒 great vid!

@crystalkerkhoven6373

3 жыл бұрын

Eee im a rhythmic gymnastics girl too ! But im also a figure skater girl hehe

@harry4596

3 жыл бұрын

In my dreams... Viner x Trubaritze crossover

@Bella-po8vh

3 жыл бұрын

The toxic training methods there and dominance of Russia are pretty similar in both rg and skating haha

the way i know nothing about figure skating but has been binge watching ur youtube channel for like a month now.. the drama is insane

i would like to see the next season of this amazing reality show! tell us about 2021 OMG

This was very interesting to watch. And you are so right, this reminds me of an overly dramatic alternate version of Dance Moms 😔😭 I knew the good old drama, like the Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan scandal and their face off at the 1994 Lillehammer Winter Olympics, and the biased and unfair scoring from RUSSIANS of their very own Adelina Sotnikova at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics, when it was blatantly clear that Yuna Kim performed better, but this drama is on a whole new level! And I bet the figure skaters involved in all this drama feel great amounts of stress BESIDES the sport.

@paolala

3 жыл бұрын

thank you and yes this drama is very old school usa drama

@bunelladunella

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why they all look so unhappy!

Is just me or someone can see the pain in Zhenya's eyes when she fell 😢😢 I can't imagine the pain she felt skating with practically a broken foot.

The power puff girls part deserves an award

your editing on this video is really good. I learned a lot. thank you! this was the perfect video a lot on non figure skating fans needed to figure out the OG