Beatrice Chestnut - Type 9 Enneagram Panel

Type 9 Panel on day one of the Enneagram Panel Workshop Series (Types 8,9 & 1) with Beatrice Chestnut and host, Michael Lerner
Enneagram is an archetypal depth psychology. It has enormous power to deepen our insight into ourselves and others. As a follow-up to our last TNS conversation with author and enneagram expert Beatrice Chestnut, we’re offering a three-part series of workshops to explore enneagram further in depth. Each workshop will feature a three- to five-person panel of enneagram “types”.

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  • @lisabarnetson1362
    @lisabarnetson13622 жыл бұрын

    I doubt anyone monitors this anymore but i discovered today I am a 9. I am so so so grateful to know I am not broken. Being labelled as a people pleaser and that meant all the things I am were coping mechanisms and needed to be fixed. I cried several times in the Mr. Rogers movie. I have the volcanic anger. The 1+1 =1. So many take aways. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And I sleep through meditation too. I have a tribe!!!

  • @MrFireman164

    @MrFireman164

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are definitely not alone and I love reading the comments as I learn from those as well. 😘

  • @myradiantstarrr1302

    @myradiantstarrr1302

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope I’m here with you sharing all those traits. Yes I love these people so….I must love myself!❤ Grateful for this panel and Beatrice’s incredible expertise

  • @nannatheilgaard9156

    @nannatheilgaard9156

    9 ай бұрын

    I come back to these panels every once in a while because i find them so insightful. And i feel like i learn something new everytime! I am so happy for you that you have found your type, it can be both painful and beautiful at the same time. I have a type 9 to, so i know the pain of realising all of the time wasted.

  • @urchicfashion1976

    @urchicfashion1976

    5 ай бұрын

    I’m mentoring this (2024). 😅

  • @Qiroqi
    @Qiroqi5 жыл бұрын

    As a 9, I absolutely agree with the last fellow on the panel when he said to really find his own path was about NOT checking it out with other people. It is great to have close friends to talk things over with when times are uncertain, but I often, paradoxically, can find myself more confused or more pressured after "getting advice," because I feel the incentive is coming from elsewhere, instead of inside myself. Is this what I want, or just what someone else wants for me? When it comes to the really important decisions, I think the challenge to 9s is to face the inner turmoil and indecision largely alone, because as soon as other interests come in, we can acquiesce. Just some thoughts.

  • @somewherein-between3225

    @somewherein-between3225

    5 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree

  • @asem494

    @asem494

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes yes i agree "because I feel the incentive is coming from elsewhere" this is so true to me, i have been trying to figure out how to find what "I" want. and it is hard to find that. what is somewhat working for me journaling about my feelings all of them, most of them i find surprisingly is hate and anger. and with journaling i started to learn that somethings like financial independent is a big thing for me, and not tolerating continues misbehavior from people close to me. it feels great to stand up to something and feel the support coming from inside of me.

  • @davidschulz5197

    @davidschulz5197

    5 ай бұрын

    Big stuff here. That speaks to me but it’s also so hard

  • @TurtleGold22
    @TurtleGold224 жыл бұрын

    Half-heartedly agreeing to things you have no intention of doing is kind of a problem for me. I never even thought of that as being passive aggressive before

  • @TheRealHerbaSchmurba

    @TheRealHerbaSchmurba

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im a 9w8 and even I get pissed when my friend, who is also a 9, will not wake up to when he does this. He says that his friend will say hes coming over and rather than say he has things hes doing so he doesnt get intruded on he just complains thats hes coming over when I am egging him on to say what he wants to say. With him its a bit extreme though. He will never openly stick up for himself, and he doesnt realize that that actually makes people more annoyed with him because it is very obvious when he doesnt want to do something but goes along with it anyway.

  • @naaberfindmoi2791
    @naaberfindmoi27913 жыл бұрын

    God I love 9s. They are so pure and welcoming patient kindhearted ppl. From what I've seen they (mostly not all of them probably) believe people are inherently good that's adorable and we need more 9s I mean I need 9s in my life - Ennea 4 here Hope you have a GREAT DAY!!!!!! 💖

  • @gnomepaladin7940
    @gnomepaladin79404 жыл бұрын

    I mistyped as a 5w6 for a looong time, but now realise I am an unhealthy 9 (into 6) which makes a lot of sense as to why I feel so paralyzed by my anxious tendencies. currently working towards Acting In Love rather than Withholding In Peace

  • @glenharnish

    @glenharnish

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Acting in love" vs "Withholding in peace." Genius. Where does this come from?

  • @lorabyrnside
    @lorabyrnside4 жыл бұрын

    For several years I would volunteer to sing at church. I called it "fear therapy" because it was truly facing all my fears head on. It was excruciating during the experience but I was proud of myself afterward.

  • @giulias.5104
    @giulias.51043 жыл бұрын

    A fellow 4 learning about the other types' characteristics. Here at 13:56 it was amazing to notice how all the people on the panel share this aura of modesty that Beatrice was talking about! ❤

  • @madamk1818
    @madamk18184 жыл бұрын

    I loved this panel! My husband is a self preservation 9, and he's had trouble acknowledging his own feelings of sadness and anger. I try to make space for him to express himself and encourage him to open up. I am a 6, and his input and relaxed, calm nature is a godsend! As someone who is a nervous wreck 24/7, my husband's multi faceted and unassuming approach is fantastic.

  • @juliaphillips2518
    @juliaphillips25184 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting to see some younger 9’s on a panel. These have all done significant amounts of work. I only discovered this about 3 weeks ago and now I am aware of a mountain of work I need to do. It has helped to see you all share.

  • @mattmusgrave2838

    @mattmusgrave2838

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Julia, I'm 28 and a newly typed Social 9 (about 4-5 months ago) and what a learning journey that has been for me! The passive aggressive thing has hit me hard haha!

  • @ORfMT

    @ORfMT

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am social 9, too. I'm 32 years old. Its been SO difficult to see what type I really am, I relate mostly to 2s.

  • @juliaphillips2518

    @juliaphillips2518

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattmusgrave2838 Yes I was a serial passive-aggressive. I have to work hard to express my dislike of things and ask for what I want. I'm working on it and developing strategies. There are some faulty ways of thinking behind it which I'm cleaning out.

  • @juliaphillips2518

    @juliaphillips2518

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattmusgrave2838 I've found Caroline Leaf's brain detox really helpful.

  • @ronjaraubert462
    @ronjaraubert4624 жыл бұрын

    I am an 8 and - as a small girl - sometimes found the fact that my dad was my dad absolutely UNLIKELY as we were (and are) so incredibly different . He is a 9 and I wish I had discovered the enneagram way earlier! This is so helpful!

  • @Moonladyify
    @Moonladyify3 жыл бұрын

    I’m a 6w5 but am fully willing and able to move towards the healthy side of 9 and envelop more peace within myself and others around me. I cried heavily when the 2 middle panelists talked about how powerful unconditional, universal love is - it was such a sobering reminder of why we are here and how we connect to each other. To see past the ego, society, social media and the voices of the ‘shoulds’ is so freeing. I love this panel and the 6 panel so much. I see my humor with the 6 and am able to laugh more at my paranoia but the 9 panel, I felt this deeply, the aversion to anger and how they learned to embrace themselves fully is so inspiring. Thank you for this Beatrice and Michael and the New School x

  • @joshuamayer6464
    @joshuamayer64642 жыл бұрын

    If you look closely, this panel is very bright with each 9’s light coming out of themselves 😉 Ps: I’m a 9, I enjoyed the energy of this panel very much.

  • @bendadestroyer
    @bendadestroyer3 жыл бұрын

    *I'm a 9w1 and I take care of my grandmother who has alzheimers. Every week gets harder and harder and she can be stubborn and conniving. I once asked if she would like a hamburger. I then cooked it for her and after I presented it to her she said she didn't want it and never asked for it in a very snotty attitude. I threw the burger across the kitchen in rage. I regained control immediately.*

  • @naaberfindmoi2791

    @naaberfindmoi2791

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's so powerful of you that you take care of her and even if she may not seem like she's appreciating your help it's so clear that you're an awesome fella. Wish you luck!!! You got this I can feel it

  • @YEDxYED

    @YEDxYED

    2 жыл бұрын

    As long as you keep reminding yourself that, that isn’t who she truly is at heart, then it’ll be fine

  • @lColbyl
    @lColbyl5 жыл бұрын

    Just a friendly enneagram 1 here learning better about my good pals the 9's!

  • @bobpolo2964

    @bobpolo2964

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too!

  • @antondeannova7016

    @antondeannova7016

    3 жыл бұрын

    in your opinion which skilled trade is more suitable for istp mechanic or electrician ... give the logical answer based on the function of the ISTP ..?

  • @YEDxYED

    @YEDxYED

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antondeannova7016 mechanic

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060

    @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@antondeannova7016 electrician is more xSTJ. Mechanic is more xSTP.

  • @ziphomokoena3551
    @ziphomokoena35512 жыл бұрын

    9w1. You have the gift. Rarely do speakers resonate with me the way you do. Please continue to shine your light and share these truths🌟☀

  • @TheNinjutsuAlchemist
    @TheNinjutsuAlchemist Жыл бұрын

    This is so beautiful and amazing. Thank you for sharing. I related with a lot of what they were saying and when the one fellow started talking about his service with hospice patients I started to cry. I’ve felt a calling for a while to sit by the side of people who are dying so they won’t be alone. I don’t think anyone should die thinking no one cares that they existed.

  • @gordanaprebeg9195
    @gordanaprebeg91955 жыл бұрын

    I had to watch all 9 videos to figure out that I am a 9. I was really confused, cause I could relate myself to all types. I even almost found myself in 8, and then I was like:" I'm definitely not 8, but what number am I?" 😁😁😁. Yeah, a niiiiiineeee.

  • @towel1636

    @towel1636

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same lol, I noticed that I can act like all of the types when I decide to do something

  • @lorirees4248
    @lorirees42483 жыл бұрын

    The patterns are durable. It’s so easy to lull back into your patterns even when you are “awake”.

  • @AdelleRamcharan
    @AdelleRamcharan4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a 4.. here to learn more about my favorite honeys, the sweetheart nines :)

  • @jennlovedbychrist6477

    @jennlovedbychrist6477

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here!!

  • @spazaliciousbim

    @spazaliciousbim

    2 жыл бұрын

    My husband is a 9 and I’m so blessed by him. He is the sweetest most beautiful soul. I hear you ❤️♥️🙌🏽🌈

  • @AdelleRamcharan

    @AdelleRamcharan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spazaliciousbim We’re divorced now lol

  • @abt9594
    @abt95943 жыл бұрын

    The "Enneagram and Coffee" podcast host recommended watching panels to assist in determining types. I'm still going to watch the remainder of the panels (I'm conflicted between 9, 4, and 5). Cannot believe how much I relate to these folks. The posture, energy, mannerisms, and anecdotes of this panel are so validating! Thank you for hosting and posting. :)

  • @paulbernhard7186

    @paulbernhard7186

    Жыл бұрын

    I also cannot decide what I am between 4, 5, and 9. Look up "tritype 459". I think Carl Jung was a 459

  • @ShikhaSreenivas

    @ShikhaSreenivas

    7 ай бұрын

    I am also confused between these same 3 types!

  • @debs7411

    @debs7411

    4 ай бұрын

    I think I'm a 4, but I definitely have 9 and 5 traits. Absolutely no chance that I'm 12367or8.

  • @feliciathomas4632
    @feliciathomas46324 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this! Every panel member provided a different, but helpful insight that was incredibly affirming. I texted my daughter (who introduced me to the Enneagram) that I couldn't stop laughing and shouting "Yes!" throughout the entire presentation. Profoundly thankful to all of you.

  • @Tepheeeee
    @Tepheeeee5 жыл бұрын

    I resonated so deeply with this panel and learned a ton. Thank you for sharing!

  • @jelsmommy
    @jelsmommy2 жыл бұрын

    I was the only non-first-born child in my original family so I just knew they all had it handled, not that I was over looked. Just content and ready to go along with these wonderful, competent people:)

  • @ryk6207
    @ryk62072 жыл бұрын

    I’ve recently found that I am likely a type 9 after being (mis)typed as 4 and (mostly) 5 for a while. The confusing part is that even though I seem to do the self-forgetting thing and often play the mediator, I do not usually think of myself as very easygoing, friendly, supportive, etc. In fact, I’ve been judged many times for being rude, aloof, insensitive, etc. So that’s kind of how I thought of myself. Despite that, I still seem to get along with my family better than the rest of them. It’s strange. I have an Asperger’s diagnosis so I guess that has something to do with it, and is probably why I mistyped as 5. I’m very introverted and bookish. The “fear of separation” thing also threw me off, because like, I’m already separated? Why would I fear that more than being insignificant or incompetent? I’d say my strongest fear is being defective or evil (which had me thinking about 1 for a while as well). I’ve read that 9s tend to mistype anyway and I suppose being neurodivergent complicates things. I’m just not quite what people expect.

  • @TheNinjutsuAlchemist

    @TheNinjutsuAlchemist

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow it’s like you read my mind haha. I also thought I was a 5 for a long long time. In fact I really thought I was most types BUT the 9. But accepting I’m probably a 9 has helped me be more honest about my anger and struggles. But I also am frequently considered aloof or distant and have had friends call me out on not being vulnerable enough or sharing enough. It’s hard because I don’t see it. I think we have good relationships but because I don’t ask things of them or want them to be too reliant on me it leads to struggles. So I have the same question of ‘is my fear actually being separated when I actively separate myself for my own safety?’ Maybe it has something more to do with I don’t want people to see me as I am and decide I’m not worth being around. So I kinda keep the wall up. It may be similar with you. But yeah the fear of incompetence thing is so relatable. Which is why I mistyped as a 5 for a while. But it’s actually a 9 thing too! Particularly when it’s in a workplace. Wanting to play your role well but not get too much attention for it is absolutely a 9 trait.

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060
    @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 Жыл бұрын

    9's can be very deep people.

  • @kimpuchek1956
    @kimpuchek19564 жыл бұрын

    Very recently, I have been encouraged to explore enneagrams. I relate very much to 9. This panel discussion has been so incredibly helpful for me. Thank you!

  • @MoyaMorrisEnneagram
    @MoyaMorrisEnneagram5 жыл бұрын

    Superb Type 9 Panel, thank you all so much for sharing. I will post to Facebook.

  • @karenfelt7528
    @karenfelt75282 жыл бұрын

    If anyone is still out there looking at comments, I just found these videos. I had tested as Type 1, and Panel 1 really resonated with me, but then I watched 9, and that resonated just as strongly. I feel like I morph between both of them. As a kid in a dysfunctional household, my brother was the comedic relief, but also possibly the scapegoat, and I was the peacekeeper by making sure everything was perfectly neat and orderly . We have both talked about our hypervigilance of scanning the entire room for things out of place, tension in the air, etc. I'm feeling like maybe I'm overthinking how to decide which number I am, 😆 when what I should be doing is just observing myself more, learning more about both, and it will naturally become clear. 🤔 My inner critic, BTW can be really incessant and loud. I always thought it was my father's voice, what he would have been telling/yelling to me. I cried when I learned it was in me, and again when panel 1 talked about it, other people struggling with this hounding in our heads! Such a relief in a way. I'm trying to recognize it, comfort it, and distract it. Music helps. I started learning ukulele over the pandemic, and it's an amazing way to focus, to calm the voice .🎶

  • @nannatheilgaard9156

    @nannatheilgaard9156

    4 ай бұрын

    I am hsppy for you that you have started your enneagram journey. I struggled for a long time to figure out my type. For me it has helped to not think about it logically, but trust my intuition more. Like which insights was 'hitting me hardest'. As a 9, and i can only speak for myself, i don't experiance a strong inner critical voice. Yes i can be critical and feel that there are things i should be doing, but it is more a sence of opinions coming from the outside. I hope that helps 😊

  • @katie0698
    @katie06985 жыл бұрын

    I cant wait to watch all the other ones :)

  • @amossmith6215
    @amossmith62153 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!! I'm a 9. And have a genetic disorder. I've always felt overlooked and looked down upon. I struggle with feeling like people treat me differently. I had a jod that discriminated against me, I asked coworkers if they thought I was being treated differently they all said yes. So this has added to my anxiety. It's not easy. I don't drive either and probably never will. So all of this adds to my 6 feelings.

  • @riyajacob2909

    @riyajacob2909

    11 ай бұрын

    Sending you love and blessings 💕.may you be loved

  • @iloverumi
    @iloverumi3 жыл бұрын

    great presentation format... thanks

  • @irak1999
    @irak19993 жыл бұрын

    A friendly number 1 with 9 wing - Totally relating to you guys

  • @yobhsiFehT
    @yobhsiFehT3 жыл бұрын

    "What makes you SADDEST in life? ... What can we do for a 9 to empathize more deeply?" ... I'm just gonna go out on a limb and guess that was one of my fellow 4s ;) lol

  • @erinosborn4602

    @erinosborn4602

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a 9 I deeply appreciate my 4s ❤️

  • @jennlovedbychrist6477

    @jennlovedbychrist6477

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES!! Good guess (a fellow 4).

  • @jennlovedbychrist6477

    @jennlovedbychrist6477

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awww. ♥️

  • @kristythomas2919
    @kristythomas29194 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to Enneagram and embracing that I am a 9. I really only meant to watch a few minutes of this and then save the rest for later (which for a 9 may or may not have actually happened...lol) But I couldn't stop watching... it was so engaging and so insightful. I really enjoyed it a lot. Thanks to everyone who was a part of this!

  • @nicoleleithwood
    @nicoleleithwood2 жыл бұрын

    My husband is a nine... I will share with him what I learned from this.

  • @leticiahasselmann
    @leticiahasselmann4 жыл бұрын

    Really great

  • @anitadodd
    @anitadodd3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Beatrice for your work that you have put out into the world! Can a 9 with PTSD display a lot of characteristics of a SP4? My ieQ9 wavered back and forth between a 4 and 9, and I feel that I could be either, but I don't feel Iike I struggle with envy because I want everyone to be equal and feel accepted and loved. I do feel like I don't measure up and wish that I had been taught how to have healthier relationships rather than being raised "Lord of the Flies" style. I think I identify with the SX9 on the panel so much. I would love to learn more about how trauma can affect the enneagram. Omigosh I cried so hard when he quoted the Mister Rogers movie (which I totally loved by the way) "I am a mistake."

  • @amelian9677
    @amelian96773 ай бұрын

    Creeping on 9 content because I love 9’s IRL ❤☺️ I also love 7’s. As a 4w5 it’s like a 10,000 page Dostoevsky novel with a funeral dirge for background music in my head 🤣 plus I’m an SP. So I like to soak up the sunshine from these types 🌞 😂

  • @ry2456
    @ry24563 жыл бұрын

    I am a 6. When I first found out about the enneagram a year ago I read about the different types and 9 was one I considered. I know now I am not. Watching all of these panels I can say that this one was by far the hardest to decipher what these people are really like. So much so that it almost frustrates me. 😂. I work with a young guy I believe to be a 9 and he is so easy going and generally gets work done but usually seems tired and when I ask a question I don’t know if he is telling me yes, no, maybe or just not answering. He like to reply with “ I feel like it is xyz...”. And I say, a yes, no, or I don’t know are the only possible answers to this question. Not I feel. So irritating, yet I long so much to be able to relax like that.

  • @jonnyrichard-causeeffect5121

    @jonnyrichard-causeeffect5121

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ryan Bielemeier - Your comment made me chuckle & snort because I’m a 9 and my 10-yr old is a 6 and he gets totally frustrated with my answers whenever he asks me a question and is expecting me to state a strong opinion one way or another. It reminds me of Harry Truman famously asking “Give me a one-handed economist! All of my economists say, ‘on the one hand...on the other.’” 😁

  • @addaminsane

    @addaminsane

    2 жыл бұрын

    9s are deeply rooted in common sense and have a hard time not holding grudges against lapses in common sense. 9s respond positively to demonstrations of intestinal fortitude. If you wan't to be able to motivate a 9 you have to be capable of demonstrating genuine intestinal fortitude.

  • @addaminsane

    @addaminsane

    2 жыл бұрын

    If one is stuck in growth mode a 9 will react to them in a positively aggressive fashion. One who is disentigrating will be more likely to experience the disentigrating traits of the 9 unless that 9 is stuck in growth mode. We all mirror eachother unless stuck in growth mode. Any number stuck in growth mode will bring about positivity no matter what number they are relating to.

  • @lukegarner8517
    @lukegarner85173 жыл бұрын

    This is just speculation, but in regards to the man speaking to the sadness in the group who stated he is married to a 4: I wonder if he is more aware of sadness in groups he is in now later in life after being involved with a 4 who likely notices and speaks to this aspect of people/groups? Perhaps not, but I’ve noticed this tendency in myself as a 9. I was convinced I was a 4 for a while because I took on qualities of the 4 individual closest to me whiteout realizing it. However, it does make sense when Bea said all types feel a sense of powerlessness or feelings of deficiency and maybe that is the cause of his noticing of sadness for him along with being highly self-developed. Just food for thought.

  • @pollyhaselnut
    @pollyhaselnut27 күн бұрын

    Anger isn't bad. Anger tells us when an injustice is happening. Once you know that it makes sense why you're angry.

  • @trustyourself-ashleyching3646
    @trustyourself-ashleyching36463 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this 3 has definitely disintegrated to 9.

  • @trychanting
    @trychanting2 жыл бұрын

    At 51:50 Bea asks a panelist "what's a strength (of being a nine)?" The next few moments are very powerful.

  • @TheRealHerbaSchmurba
    @TheRealHerbaSchmurba2 жыл бұрын

    The self preservation has a strong 8 wing for sure, even though he says he relates to the 8 least. Self preservation 9’s usually have alot of grit in my experience, coming from an sp 9w8.

  • @targoltaba
    @targoltaba Жыл бұрын

    I always hear the same about 9… o would like to know more than that 🙏🏼

  • @Ikram-sz8re
    @Ikram-sz8re5 жыл бұрын

    What an amazing resource! When will the videos for the other types be released?

  • @NewSchoolCommonweal

    @NewSchoolCommonweal

    5 жыл бұрын

    All but one video (type 7) are live now! kzread.info/head/PLeWY_tCA2qdBCbrJdGOZKhrJzdn_1pxQK

  • @Ikram-sz8re

    @Ikram-sz8re

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@NewSchoolCommonweal thank you!

  • @jleach3413
    @jleach34132 жыл бұрын

    I was in resistance, accepting I may be a 9. I kept seeing my mom visually when I researched it, not myself. This was the place where I found my resistance bc I'm estranged from my mom. If nothing else, it does help me connect within and see too how I mimicked her behavior. Can you be more than one? I'm still unsettled bc I see myself in all of them. Some more than others.

  • @marybell2002

    @marybell2002

    2 жыл бұрын

    9s are the one type that sees themselves in all of them. Healthy 9s are really different from unhealthy ones so I wouldn't worry about being the same type as your mom. The fact that you're estranged shows you set a boundary with your mom which is something I wouldn't expect most unhealthy 9s to do.

  • @melissadavis4734
    @melissadavis47344 жыл бұрын

    Every test I take, I get 9 and by a LONG shot - like 98-99%. But I have had depression, anxiety and ANGER for years and years. I keep hearing that 9's don't know they are angry or just aren't angry or some version as that. Me, nope! I feel like I'm always angry. Anyone else? Am I really not a 9 then?

  • @HibiscusHaven23

    @HibiscusHaven23

    4 жыл бұрын

    Melissa Davis Have you looked into the possibility that you are a 9 but with every enneagram type, we have wings (the number on either side of you), and maybe you are operating out of your 8 wing? My daughter is a nine that can operate out of her 8 wing so she can have outbursts of anger.

  • @aldenthompsonvought

    @aldenthompsonvought

    4 жыл бұрын

    9s are always angry! we just struggle to find out how to express it and have a full healthy relationship with it involving stages of discovery, acceptance, and release.

  • @TurtleGold22

    @TurtleGold22

    4 жыл бұрын

    I identify very strongly with 9. I get angry fairly often too but I do get angry about 9 things. Having my routine messed up or feeling too put upon, and generally just having my peace disturbed. For me it usually feels like it is from intense built up frustration that has boiled over but then I will be angry about it for a long time. Probably because I never actually do anything about it but then if I do do something about it... things can get intense. Rarely though, and I mean rarely, I do get caught up in some true righteous anger that I actually feel kind of good about. I think that has only happened once or twice in my life. I imagine other people get that nice kind of anger a lot more. I also have some anxiety issues and I am sure I have had issues with depression but not diagnosed

  • @Laylabear92

    @Laylabear92

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here. Sounds like you have strong 8 wing! The 9w8 is one of the more rare subtypes I'm finding 🤔🦄

  • @loref4200

    @loref4200

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TurtleGold22 I relate with your comment. I'm a 9w8 and sometimes I will have a burst of anger that arises out of seemingly nowhere. I cannot stand hypocrisy or people who take advantage of others, and this is where my 8 wing truly shines. If you want to see a 9w8 finally use their voice, do something that stirs up one of their loved ones. They will be there front and center to call you out. No one messes with my loved ones, and I always shock people who barely know me when this occurs because the girl who is always observing is finally making her presence known. They cannot believe it, but the telling sign is when I suddenly realize that I had an outburst and I try to rectify it immediately by making everyone comfortable again. Lol. Sometimes by telling a joke, distracting them with another topic of conversation and then withdrawing back into observation, or by simply disappearing until I'm needed again.

  • @RandolphTheWhite1
    @RandolphTheWhite14 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure I'm a six but I remember as a kid, I'd meet some of my other classmates and I'd notice something missing. I remember noticing that there was nothing specific they wanted to do. I'm someone who likes to get their own way so I was taken back by this. They were usually physically larger people to. I remember thinking, "if I was this person, I'd be throwing my weight around more to get my way. Do they not know they clearly have tons of power?" I guess they didn't because they were a nine, probably.

  • @Dr.AlessandroDrago
    @Dr.AlessandroDrago2 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes a 7 seems a 9, a 5 seems a 9, and so on. Identification is everywhere, also, in Enneagram.

  • @seymourbutts2530
    @seymourbutts25304 жыл бұрын

    Being an 8 in a relationship with a 9, I sometimes wanna shake them and go WAKE UP look alive lol

  • @juliaphillips2518

    @juliaphillips2518

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol ask them if they secretly want you to take a chill pill

  • @juliaphillips2518

    @juliaphillips2518

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I get enough sleep at night naps aren’t for me either. The self-forgetting I used to do included not sleeping enough at night then I could not make it through the day without napping. But I also think it is a family thing... all the older men on my side of the family nap regularly.

  • @zenli1407

    @zenli1407

    3 жыл бұрын

    please don't... lol... but do push us a bit. learning to be assertive actually helps us grow... as long as you're careful not to come off as super intimidating.

  • @mtoffo2275

    @mtoffo2275

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol, not an 8, but I feel like the 9s in my life are always trying to put me to sleep. Not the guys on the panel, though. They were interesting to listen to

  • @cherishtheday2223

    @cherishtheday2223

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Look alive” lmfaooo

  • @ashleyching5786
    @ashleyching5786 Жыл бұрын

    Type determine by what they focus on.

  • @evelinaradzivonaite3115
    @evelinaradzivonaite31154 жыл бұрын

    'not checking it out with other people' !

  • @blakekwamin7400
    @blakekwamin74003 жыл бұрын

    At 1.10:35. The 8 started talking about his wife. My first that was, this dude sucks he is not supporting his wife. But then I remembered, he’s and 8, they always come off that way initially, but often times there is a soft and caring person under that hard prickly shell

  • @MrFireman164

    @MrFireman164

    2 жыл бұрын

    For sure, I married a 8… a marshmallow wrapped in barbed wire.

  • @blakekwamin7400

    @blakekwamin7400

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrFireman164 you are a fireman too?

  • @MrFireman164

    @MrFireman164

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blakekwamin7400 yes 👍

  • @blakekwamin7400

    @blakekwamin7400

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrFireman164 me too

  • @vees_reflections
    @vees_reflections5 жыл бұрын

    how do i find out what kind of a type 9 i am? like with the sexual, social, etc. subtypes?

  • @MISSchaosMELTS

    @MISSchaosMELTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    I found it very helpful to reflect on the situations when your feeling of not belonging or your 'nineness', if you will, comes out the most. Sexuals have a sparkle in their eyes, they tend to soak you into a conversation like a dry sponge. That's the merging the panel spoke about. Me as a social nine, I allways check on how everybody is doing and it's nearly impossible for me - if I'm in a group of people to have a sense of self. I'm like a flowy ghost above the group. Social nines are distracted maybe the easiest, I'd say. But the good side is they are also the most outgoing and expressive and extrovert. It's a little hard to spot them. Get confused with sevens often. The selv-preservation nines are like a rock. If they sit, they sit. They worry about if everybody is comfy, if It's warm enough of if there will be enough food at the party. They are the earthy and calmest. I hope this helps. I'm relatively new to the eneagram but I know a bunch of nines in all different shapes. Best of Luck!

  • @vees_reflections

    @vees_reflections

    5 жыл бұрын

    MISSchaosMELTS thank you that really helps to clarify! i’m gonna do more research but i’m pretty sure i’m a social nine, but maybe sexual.

  • @MISSchaosMELTS

    @MISSchaosMELTS

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vees_reflections you're very wellcome! Take your time and wellcome on board! :-)

  • @helena6459

    @helena6459

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MISSchaosMELTS Thank you for clarity👁

  • @CannedTunaIsTheBest
    @CannedTunaIsTheBest10 ай бұрын

    This was pretty interesting lol

  • @Tilly732
    @Tilly732Ай бұрын

    All I can see is how physically uncomfortable the lady sitting smack dab in the middle is 😂 did they make those chairs closer on purpose??

  • @coonytza1605
    @coonytza1605 Жыл бұрын

    Infj and enneagram 9 is compatible?

  • @riyajacob2909

    @riyajacob2909

    Жыл бұрын

    INFJ,enneagram 9w1

  • @CannedTunaIsTheBest

    @CannedTunaIsTheBest

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah

  • @chaeralove
    @chaeralove3 жыл бұрын

    well, this made me realize im not a 9 gut

  • @jennifergilbert9882
    @jennifergilbert98823 жыл бұрын

    Demonizing 8s seems like a pattern.

  • @nannatheilgaard9156

    @nannatheilgaard9156

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true! I think a lotoff 9's has a wrong image off what 8's are like. They have a lot to bring, and i think 8's and 9's have a lot to learn from each other

  • @angelagoodwin5758

    @angelagoodwin5758

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a 9 and I think the problem is the 8 energy can be very overwhelming for 9s.

  • @oooo1743

    @oooo1743

    Жыл бұрын

    For me with ex friend 8 he was conquering and owning.

  • @piscessun3087
    @piscessun3087 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a 9, and I thought these people were rather strange. 😂

  • @lorirees4248
    @lorirees42484 жыл бұрын

    Funny about right action. Who says what's right or not?

  • @Alan-is3jk
    @Alan-is3jk3 жыл бұрын

    huh... as a nine listening to this, i feel like a lot of the statements in the second half were quite ego driven and idealizing of the type nine. :/

  • @peterdentice5725

    @peterdentice5725

    3 жыл бұрын

    With being a 9, that's a feeling that would be somewhat expected given what a 9's fixations/attachments are. It sounds off when it hits the ear because the 9 thinks of themselves as nobody special; that they're being/getting oversold regarding their perceived value of self.

  • @boltonlad18
    @boltonlad183 жыл бұрын

    9's know that Father's are just as vital to thee family unit as a Mother contrary to what everyone else is sayin, the world tells us by how it's worked and moulded the Father is one part of a Trinity with the Child and the Mother but people choose to stroke their own egos, laugh and ignore but Truth alway's knocks when it's being ignored.

  • @katherinevacha9627
    @katherinevacha96276 ай бұрын

    The facilitator had a habit of interrupting the 9's; wish people knew how painful that is for a 9 trying to share their experience and opinions.

  • @nannatheilgaard9156
    @nannatheilgaard91563 жыл бұрын

    I love this panel and seeing how different the approache is between the different subtypes. I can't help noticing, that the woman in the middle has a very different energy that all the other 9's. I know it is not my place to categorise and type other people, but her vibe doen't speak 9 to me. Am i the only one thinking this? Her movements are very agitated and less calm. off cource this could be for a number of different reasons. I am just curious.

  • @nannatheilgaard9156

    @nannatheilgaard9156

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jadey2020 That makes a lot of sence. I think it was the nervousness i was picking up on, and couldn't place it in context with the 9.

  • @bear_6875

    @bear_6875

    2 жыл бұрын

    To me her energy also seems very scattered, which is another classic 9 tendency. Telling a story, getting on a tangent, forgetting what you were talking about in the first place, and eventually trailing off into an underwhelming conclusion that doesn't actually wrap anything up. Saying this as someone with a lot of 9 energy myself. This panel is so useful!

  • @taniafox3005

    @taniafox3005

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely anxiety there. She struggled with her words initially and mentioned 5th chakra. Her throat chakra was feeling constricted hence the coughs.

  • @MrFireman164

    @MrFireman164

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look into tritypes, I’m a 9,6,4 tritype and I work with a 9,7,2 tritype, we are similar but yet very different, he is way more laid back and I am more of a worrier bouncing between 9&6.

  • @auroras7131
    @auroras71313 жыл бұрын

    Now I know I'm not a 9 lol.

  • @trustyourself-ashleyching3646
    @trustyourself-ashleyching36463 жыл бұрын

    Awww, don’t talk over a 9!

  • @huh-se1lo
    @huh-se1lo2 жыл бұрын

    y'all get the feeling that dr chestnut is a 9? lol

  • @nenessie
    @nenessie3 ай бұрын

    8:12

  • @nenessie

    @nenessie

    3 ай бұрын

    12:43

  • @nenessie

    @nenessie

    3 ай бұрын

    13:38

  • @aprilcraig2605
    @aprilcraig26052 жыл бұрын

    Lady in the middle in the navy shirt is not a 9- she is a 6! Bet!!! Her energy is totally different.

  • @MrFireman164

    @MrFireman164

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m a 9w1 but tritype as a 9,6,4 so I am very kind and laid back unless I’m anxious then I go hard to 6.

  • @Progamerjay100

    @Progamerjay100

    2 жыл бұрын

    She sort of scares me. And she is so restless.

  • @truBador2
    @truBador22 жыл бұрын

    I am a nine. Thank you. This panel has helped me take a stand not to get vaccinated. Thanks again.

  • @RandolphTheWhite1
    @RandolphTheWhite14 жыл бұрын

    Dad?