"WOW, they do have it! Canned Rhinos!"

@besheveledbear4568

6 ай бұрын

This one got me good

Patreon subscriber Vlandrik here, been working on this same idea at my LGS legacy nights. Currently working with a 2/2 beans split main/side. This has been my pet deck for a while and the beans side plan has helped it a ton. Also I refer to the deck as CrashCade EleLentels.

@slay-thoven1357

6 ай бұрын

BUMPING CRASHCADE ELELENTILS

@ryansalmon6507

6 ай бұрын

This is the best name. Are you per chance a father?

sweet list! i was the r3 opponent - i thought the rhino/bean juke was a transformational sideboard plan. Didn't realize they were both in the main 😮. Great vid as always!

I occasionally look in my pantry and choose canned rhino for a nice little treat

At 34:20 you could have slammed onmath to help block the horde while also still hard casting solitude and gaining 4 life, that seems pretty good

Highly entertaining, love it when you try something that might not make sense, even if hte conclusion is just what you expected. So rarely I see a mistake that you don't call out yourself during or shortly thereafter, I can't help but share: At 52 minutes, your Fury put three damage on an insectile aberration and one on a bowmaster, leaving their 1/1 orc army alive, instead of the correct 2 on delver and 1 on each of bowmaster and its army.

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

Yeah probably just narrating and missed it. :)

@alexesperanto

5 ай бұрын

Every minor misplay you make gets me to check the comments in case it's some 1000 iq play that I don't understand@@BoshNRoll

Plot twist: any thing that is cascaded into is a can, including living ends.

This deck makes me excited to cascade and appeals to my inner gambler. I love it and I'm happy to see that it actually seems decent. I suspect it's often correct to sideboard into only rhinos or mostly beans, depending on the matchup (and possibly what the opponent saw in game 1). I thought that match 1 would be one where you really want to guarantee that you cascade into rhinos because they grant you immediate value and the games are short, but you lost the game that you got rhinos and won the game where you just free spell con q̶u̶e̶s̶o̶ frijoles-ed your way to victory, so maybe I don't know how to play magic. As other have mentioned, casting omnath when you can play a fetch afterwards is typically free.

Did I donate for this after an argument in the comments of a KZread video? Yes. Yes, I did.

26:17 Bosh: "The problem is that Delver is not a human anymore when it flips" Also Bosh: *hovering over Delver, showing that Delver's backside is a Human Insect*

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

I meant Wizard, I was talking about flame of anor and just misspoke

@ashx8772

6 ай бұрын

@@BoshNRollat least we know that through everything that happens ….. delver never lost his humanity ….. lmao

Would you believe that was my first league of BUG Beans? Feels like I probably did some things wrong but deck gave me great opening resources that match lmao. GGs Bosh :)

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

Another set of Green Sun's Zenith, abandoned for Brainstorm. RIP

While I *do* think running both weakens both decks, you're often happy to hit either, and in some situations you're *really* happy that you even have the option to hit the other thing. We need bigger data to see if it's worth it

Cool deck, thanks for the video. Though if I played a deck that needs WRUUGG and kind of wants RR and WW too, I personally wouldn't run 4 basic, 2 boseju and an Otawara.

Delver is still a human when it flips

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

I meant Wizard and misspoke

is there a reason you put 3 damage on the delver instead of killing the army at 52:24

@danarmchuk6902

6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he forgot delver was only 2 toughness

@taranweeks4393

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I was just about to ask the same thing! I mean he must have forgotten, but for someone who knows delver so well, I was surprised! 🙊

@daltonmekis

6 ай бұрын

It’s the DRC 3/3 brain rot ;)

Always a pleasure to appear in one of these getting absolutely manhandled ✌ Edit: Flame of Anor is a very good charm, I don't think the card needs to be a command to be worth the inclusion. Kills the endurance, hits some annoying artifacts like chalice or anything from the dozen artifact decks around, and is always an instant speed divination if you've got nothing better to do. That said, I don't think it's ultimately worth it, 3 mana is just too much for the daze wasteland deck

@tkun3502

6 ай бұрын

Bosseidon mentioned this is a huge red aggro W

The Hogaak deck in round 3 looks incredibly fun. Anyone has a deck list? The ones online all look different.

Obligatory algorithmic contribution

@4:45 very much enjoyed this joke haha

26:21 : Delver IS still a human after flipping (Human Insect), but it isn't the type Flame of Anor cares about, which is Wizard. Task failed successfully.

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

Yes the thing I meant is true and the thing I said doesn't matter.

at 34:30 i think it`s better to play omnath, play the fetych and sorcery speed the soiltude, even if u give up intel. Also at 40:35 i think you are in a winning position if u pitch yorion for solitude on one of the crabs and bind the other, they have no cards in hand, no engine without the crabs and u are pushing 8 damage a turn.

Hey Bosh, at 69:69 you missed a chance to say nice. Just wanted to point it out!

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

This is the only chat lethal I'll accept

Someday it would be cool to see ancestral visions in one of these

I would have NOT bet on you last game of round 4. That was neat.

It ain’t the carrots, it ain’t peas, It ain’t peaches or the collard greens You just opened up a great big can of whoop ass!

G1 my immediate thought was "and then they opened a can of goblins first."

Flipped Delver has 2 toughness. Brought to you by Fury enjoyers everywhere

I wonder if there's a build of this that can pivot between tempo and control by having either rhinos or beanstalks in the sideboard (probably beans, I would think) and then swapping the rhinos with the beanstalks when the matchup makes sense. The uncertainty of having both in at the same time was a little bit rough.

@BoshNRoll : based on your ample top-level competitive playing experience, how much do you think the appeal of this kind of "box of chocolates" deck can change based on the structure of a competition? What I mean is, let's say for the sake of argument that this hybrid Beans-Rhinos deck is equally powerful to a dedicated 5C Beanstalk or Rhinos deck, but just has higher variance. In other words, the overall win percentage is the same, but the hybrid version is more likely to overperform and win bad matchups, but also more likely to underperform and lose favorable ones. (We witnessed it doing both in this video!). Are there some competitive situations where this variance is actually desirable? For example, does it make more sense to play a high-variance list when trophy-hunting in MTGO Leagues, since you need to hit a lucky streak to 5-0 anyways, so you'd rather play a deck that oscillates between 5-0 and 0-5 results than a deck that racks up 3-2's and 4-1's? Would you be more hesitant to play a deck like this in a 14-round Swiss-System tournament, where consistent performance is more important... or could it maybe be the opposite if you're in it to win it? (You need a deck that can get you to 12 wins in the Swiss, PLUS 3 straight wins in the Top 8, so a "merely" consistent deck may be less valuable when an 8-6 record gets you no closer to your goal than 0-2-drop? I've never played in a constructed tournament, so I'm curious what your experience tells you! Of course, you made it clear in the video that this hybrid deck is probably BOTH weaker and less consistent than a more focused version. And I suppose there's also an element of personal preference here - the stereotype of competitive "Spikes" is that they tend to prefer consistency over variance in their decks, especially grizzled control players such as yourself! Still, we've seen even the "spikiest" of players embrace high-variance cards and decks when they offered enough power to win tournaments! (e.g. Comet, Name Sticker Goblin, Winota, Charbelcher, Frenetic Efreet, Bazaar of Baghdad - come to think of it, arguably the entire Vintage format...)

This deck's name is officially "Gump Chrashcade"

I wonder if these 4-color elemental/cascade decks should be running 4-color Aragorn instead of 4-color Omnath. Pitches to all the same spells, but generates more value over time when it’s in play.

@rashindus

6 ай бұрын

Omnath cantrips, so it's better in the worst case scenarios when it dies immediately.

The can in the thumbnail should have been edited to say "Bosh's" 😃

52:20 Why assign 3 of the damage to Abberation and not also ping the Army? Is there some tech I'm unaware about that makes this a safer play?

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

Just clicked wrong while narrating. Streamer brain.

Day (someone pls remind me, its been a sec) of proclaiming my love for bosh n roll

I think you should start the list with how you want to play- aggressive (Rhinos main) or controlling (Beans Main). And then juke. I would consider adding Verdicts (at least 2-3). Possibly start with all 4x Fury main or if you want to go controlling, some Verdict main. It would be nice to be able to cascade into grave hate just like you can cascade into Artifact hate with Ouphe, though I don't know how effective the one-of Ouphe is in the matches where you really need it.

@lightworker2956

5 ай бұрын

I mean, that sounds good in theory, but I think in practice the enemy player won't mis-sideboard or misplay that badly if you juke like that. Because the same enemy cards are roughly speaking good against a Rhino value pile and a Beans value pile. I think jukes have value if you go from zero creatures to several creatures, or go from several creatures to zero creatures, or if you sideboard into an unbeatable lategame vs a slow deck, or siding from a graveyard strategy to a non-graveyard strategy, or something like that. I don't think siding from one creature-based value pile into another creature-based value pile is that amazing of a juke. And you can't really afford to side out all the creatures here, if you also want to have some sideboard cards vs combo etc.

@XboxTheBeatboxer

5 ай бұрын

@@lightworker2956 It's not a juke. It's a philosophy on how you want to play the deck. You start aligned with a decision on if being aggressive or not is best against most decks in the meta. You then alter the strategy for the matchups where that assertion isn't true. You're not tricking your opponent. You're playing the best version of the deck games 2-3.

Could have slammed Omnath, gained 3 and still played fury at 52:07

Round 1 game 2 is the reason modern needing bannings...

Maybe i can't count, but @44:45 if you just hold Solitude and alpha strike, it looks lethal to me.

@JoshSmithX

6 ай бұрын

Looked like it to me too

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

I went back and still don't see it. Full attack is 18, and they have 16 points of toughness to absorb damage at 7 life.

@spikescafe3940

6 ай бұрын

​@@BoshNRollUro can only soak up 4 points of damage, and they can chump your 2/2. That gives you exactly 7 damage even with max blocking.

@stephentimothybennett

6 ай бұрын

@@spikescafe3940 They can block 15 of the damage. Uro blocks 4, but the other creatures that can block have a total of 10 toughness, and one of it can get in front of shardless agent to bring the total blocked damage to 15. They would live at 4.

Hello!

@BoshNRoll

6 ай бұрын

Hello!

First! Lets gooo

Nothing much, what is up beanstalk with you?

Commenting pre matches: if we're diluting the plan, i feel like we should lean furhter into this and play brainstorm too. Like shardless temur vibe instead of shardless sultai.

@lightworker2956

5 ай бұрын

If you're going to play Beans and Brainstorms, then it's better to just be non-cascade Beans imo. Although if you just want to have fun, what you say could certainly win some games. What might also be fun (though non-competitive) is having an Ancestral Visions, Crashing Footfalls cascade decks with some time walk effects to power out the suspend cards.

Plot twist... He calls the deck Forest Chunk because beanstalk/rhinos