At around 11:00 : Muxus cannot put Muxus into play FYI. The dev's had the foresight to prevent this when designing our lord and saviour.

I really thought you were going to say: "If you can't beat them, yeet them."

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

I should write that down.

That was TonyScapone’s artifact deck. Very strong, but requires quite a lot of skill to pilot well. Something your opponent might’ve lacked back there…

15:09 BoshNRoll just had TonyScapone on his channel last week for a guest league with this deck.

@apocalypsecod

6 ай бұрын

Bosh x Tony combo deck videos are the best lol.

You kinda poo pooed it in your wrapup but that round 3 opponent had you dead to rights on their final untap game 2 and they threw it away for a single urza token. If they just tapped for mana and fetched a petal, they had the transmute for jewel just from the cards they showed. Then they have 3 fresh ones and sum total 4 mana face up and the miss rate for doing that with as many resources as they had on the table is probably in the small single digits. The whole match was very much pilot error and not deck strength

@darkappr3ntic3_

6 ай бұрын

They also could have just metamorphed the one ring in multiple occasions. giving him multiple free turns and draws off his original one ring.

@benjaminsouthworth5698

5 ай бұрын

@@darkappr3ntic3_the protection from the one ring is a cast trigger

@Kristjan0209

4 ай бұрын

@@benjaminsouthworth5698 it's an etb that will trigger if cast so phyrexian metamorph could have given him protection

@benjaminsouthworth5698

3 ай бұрын

@@Kristjan0209 wait that’s sick if true

Once again, reminder that paper Name Sticker Goblin is superior via you knowing how much mana it's worth before first mulligan

@impendio

6 ай бұрын

I have no idea how stickers work in paper tbh, how does it work? You have a sticker deck, right? Is it face up and you just shuffle and get cut?

@chrisvanderheiden12

6 ай бұрын

You have a 10+ card deck of unique sticker cards. You get three randomly at the start of a game (maybe match? Pretty sure it is game)

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@impendio You start with a 10+ deck of sticker sheets. You begin the game, before drawing first 7, by shuffling them (opponent can shuffle/cut as with library) and drawing 3. Those are your sticker sheets for that game.

@amatheuslc

6 ай бұрын

@@impendio You bring 10 unique sheets, you reveal them, like a companion, and pick 3 at random before each game. Stickers stay on cards until the end of the game or if they move to a hidden zone (the hand or library). When they're removed, they go back to the sheet. By tournament rules, you don't need official sheets as long as you make it clear which sheets and stickers you're using. If you're instructed to put a sticker on a permanent by something you don't own, the unresources page at wizards' website can give you three random ones to use in that game only.

@Red_Mag3

6 ай бұрын

​@@impendioas far as the mechanics of stickers, you can think of them as similar to counters that stay on the card in other zones like grave or exile. Name stickers allow you to modify whatever the card's name is by the sticker you place on it, which can do neat things like allow you to clone a legendary creature because the sticker changes its name.

24:00 BoshNRoll featured this deck on his channel, and had deck architect TonyScapponi as a guest. Tony talked about how the blue tap/untap card is primarily a mana source you can pitch to Force of Will - with a sol land it's a Rite of Flame, and with a Monolith or Jewel it's a Dark Ritual. So yeah it vanishing into exile is fully half of its role in the deck :)

That round 3 opponent looked like they were on Tony Scapone's latest Jewel deck. They might have been still learning it though, because there are a lot of intricate lines, especially with the transmute artifacts.

Hey, just wanna say thank you. Been watching this video for a week. Just got first my AZ legacy league. Now locked in for championships.# God is Good # You’re Awesome

@ThrabenUniversity

5 ай бұрын

Good luck!

I've been playing timeless goblins a little bit here and there. It is a similar list except for the obvious cards it is missing, but it is also running 4 copies of sneak attack and 4 copies of skirk prospector so that you can sac muxus for one R and then push another muxus to board or a chieftain or matron to get a muxus. I'm personally also using a single copy of Exuberant fuseling which is an insane card in a deck that has a turn that plays 3 muxus. Just some thoughts on cards that you might want to consider in the future. I just woke up, so hopefully this makes any sense.

I can't believe you beat Eagles of the North. That deck is strong

"If ya cant Beat'em, Yeet'em!"

@ReyaadawnMTG

6 ай бұрын

YES!

@apocalypsecod

6 ай бұрын

YEET!

Round 3 looks like the tony scapone coveted jewel deck, since that's one of the only decks that'd play dreams grip. Interesting how you face it now, presuming you recorded your league very recently, brians video probably threw it into the spotlight. They also looked like a fairly new pilot to such a deck, since they forgot things like one ring trigger on cast vs etb.

@Red_Mag3

6 ай бұрын

Also didn't transmute for Paradox Engine

@jfb-

6 ай бұрын

also they could have used metamorph to copy ring for another trigger

I tune in for some goblins content, only to see myself get my ass handed to me! I was the initiative player. :)

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

Ggs!

"if you can't beat 'em, yeet 'em!"

This deck has to be even better in paper since you'll know how much mana you're getting off the ___ Goblin before you even have to decide on your mulligans.

@Red_Mag3

6 ай бұрын

Mind Goblin

@ReyaadawnMTG

6 ай бұрын

@@Red_Mag3 yes I do mind...I mind very much

@Playingwithproxies

6 ай бұрын

@@ReyaadawnMTGin paper you max out at 5 mana and only two stickers can even give you that 😂😂😂

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@PlayingwithproxiesNo? You can get 6?

Can’t believe Goblin Lackey got power crept out.

@arsteel2388

6 ай бұрын

Lackey is still really strong, but not needing removal is such an advantage.

@JohnFromAccounting

6 ай бұрын

Better in vintage since there is less removal.

The paradoxical opponent had you dead game two with his 4/4 construct he just needed to make it unblockable with the key!

The deck might get worked around eventually, but I dont think this would be getting knocked off any time soon assuming the card pool doesnt change (which it will in 2 weeks, i know)

In game 5, round 2 (I think), you could have considered playing Broadside Bombadier and throwing the Goblin Matron still rather than playing Fury pre-combat. You miss 1 point of damage, but the upside is having the flexibility of playing Fury the next turn and potentially throwing it for 7 points of damage. Solid plays though and good videos.

R3 is the new Tony Scaponi brew. Bryan has it up on his channel.

Tivadar's Crusade ^^

kinda crazy to think that goblin lackey is no longer good enough to see play in goblins anymore. everything needs a comes into play trigger these days.

@JohnFromAccounting

6 ай бұрын

If Bowmasters goes for similar reasons to DRS, which it shouldn't, then Lackey is good again.

watching this sped up was so quick

Goblins is the best deck in a meta without white knight? So many dreams are being fulfilled

The difference between Goblins and White Initiative is that you can play magic against Goblins. Initiative would cast WPA on turn 1, then play lock pieces and there was nothing you could do as the initiative mechanic won the game for them. Goblins is higher variation. It loses to combo. It is not fast enough to beat the really fast decks. It doesn't have white removal or blue interaction. I like it where it is and don't think changes are needed in paper. MTGO should change how Mind Goblin works to match paper, if possible.

Shouldn’t you activate battle cry goblin after you attack so you pump the token too?

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

Yes, but when considering floating mana from things like Sticker Goblin, that often doesn't work.

how big of a gap in performance/consistency is there from MTGO vs paper version. making name sticker the only difference.

Obligatory algorithmic contribution

Why is the emrakul in the board? The only reason I can think of is to stop the mill from painter?

@ThrabenUniversity

5 ай бұрын

Yup!

IMO "Name sticker goblin" is really just a better "White Plume Adventurer". The current turbo goblins iterations would probably beat pre-ban WW initiative. Try it out for next video. A no-ban legacy 5 match challenge b/w White Plume initiative and Turbo Stickers... match results might attract the banhammer

@JohnFromAccounting

6 ай бұрын

WPA resulted in non-games because it's extremely difficult to interact with initiative.

@noesunyoutuber7680

6 ай бұрын

​@@JohnFromAccounting Getting stone-rolled by turn 1 Muxus is exactly as much of a non-game as turn 1 WPA, the only difference is turn 1 Muxus happens less often.

So the moment in round 3 where the opponent copied a name sticker goblin with Phyrexian Metamorph made me think... Does this mean that in all paper legacy events, every deck that uses Reanimate or Metamorph will need to take sticker sheets just in case they need to copy an opponent's name sticker goblin for some reason?

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

Not reanimate - you can't sticker a permanent you don't own

@Playingwithproxies

6 ай бұрын

In actual paper cards sticker goblin maxes out at 5 mana and only 2 stickers give you that many give 3 or 2 mana 😂😂😂

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@Playingwithproxies It maxxes out to 6 mana with Delusionary. You also have 2 stickers with 5 mana (Unsanctioned and Gelatinous), 1 sticker with double 4 mana (Narrow-Minded and Baloney) and 5 stickers with 4 mana (Guacamole, Misunderstood, Phyrexian, Minotaur, Dinosaur).

@servalerror

6 ай бұрын

No, #30 has "Delusionary" for 6. There are two others that give you 5. Because of the way stickers work, you have a 70% chance of getting at least 5 mana from your first sticker goblin, and you know how much it will be before you make mulligan decisions. @@Playingwithproxies

good thing pyroclasm isnt too popular

Name Sticker Goblin may need a ban. It just enables too much too fast. Few other creature decks have ever had such large bursts of mana and been able to keep them. Broadside is undoubtedly powerful but its close to reasonable when you're paying for it "fairly".

@JohnFromAccounting

6 ай бұрын

Don't agree. You have to play bad cards to enable the good cards. It should work the same way in MTGO that it does in paper.

@Playingwithproxies

6 ай бұрын

@@JohnFromAccountingin paper sticker goblin can never produce 6 mana and rarely can produce 5 soooo

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@Playingwithproxies If you think _ goblin can't produce 6 mana, you must truly be d *e* l *u* s *io* n *a* r *y*

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@Playingwithproxies In paper it can produce 6 amna

Is sticker goblin at least remotely close as good in PAPER ? in Pauper, Sticker goblin dominates online but is never seen in pauper since it's weaker

@AaronRotenberg

6 ай бұрын

Paper Sticker Goblin is strictly better than the online version for all practical purposes AFAIK.

@fel_95

6 ай бұрын

@@AaronRotenberg I'm aware, I've miswrote my question, I was wondering if the deck was as strong as we see online or not

@robinsvensen1324

6 ай бұрын

@@AaronRotenbergthe odds for 6 mana is lower than online. Knowing beforehand is very useful though.

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@robinsvensen1324 The odds are the same actually. 3/10

@assault410

6 ай бұрын

@@sy-py paper version doesnt have odds

LEGACY IS FINALLY GOOD THE CHAINS ARE BROKEN

The Legacy goblins are very stong deck now i think goblins are even too good now they had combo through muxus they had atrition strategies from ribgleader and they had stax in some variatanos ...

excuse me but scryfall says name sticker goblin isnt legacy legal - what is correct?

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

It is legal. You were probably looking at the MTGO version, which doesn't exist in paper (hence wouldn't be legal for paper play).

@techwolf1900

6 ай бұрын

@@ThrabenUniversity Ehm no i click on the unfinity version in the "prints" section and it says "not legal" next to legacy

@pyroxx462

6 ай бұрын

"Name Sticker" Goblin is the MTGO version. The Paper, legacy legal version is ______ Goblin

@techwolf1900

6 ай бұрын

@@pyroxx462 but thats a totally different and much weaker Card in paper legacy, right?

@cowisiontv6611

6 ай бұрын

@@techwolf1900the odds of a 6 are less but it’s not random so it’s probably better since you can plan plays more precisely

Pretty sure muxus can’t remuxus Reading th…

If Goblins was to be banned to a lower power level, what card would they take? “Name Sticker?” Broadside?

@AaronRotenberg

6 ай бұрын

Out of those two options, I would go after Sticker Goblin just to simplify the sticker situation in paper and the errata mess on MTGO. MaRo has mentioned that the sticker cards were supposed to all be balanced so that they were too overcosted to see Legacy play, and Sticker Goblin was a design miss.

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

I don't think the deck is at ban levels, but Sticker Goblin is probably the thing increasing its speed the most.

@buhumoth

6 ай бұрын

having watched a ton of leagues and played with this deck and other non goblin stompy decks that run broadside, I think Name Sticker goblin would hurt this deck more. Losing broadside would hurt, but the ability to just Name Sticker -> Battlecry -> Activate battlecry (or dump another body / second activation on high roll) is still nuts. Broadside offers an insane amount of flexibility and potential power, but I think the fact that it's not letting you play more cards while actively decreasing your permanent count makes it less of a bomb than a 2/2 that can immediately ramp you into a Muxus while benefitting from all of the bonuses that the cards it lets you dump out give.

@TheThiccestChungus

6 ай бұрын

I'm not even sure if they will ban Goblins, with even more and stronger sets coming out soon, WotC will probably wait until GP or the next annual ban.

live would be better...seems odd this way

This game just Super sucks now. I miss the old days. My last fun time was the Mirrodin, Darksteel, Fifth Dawn. But nowadays, it's just not fun anymore. Legacy especially is just "pay to win" these days. Read/watch online what the best decks are. Buy them, and win. Turn 1 wins. What's the point?

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

Isn't the era you're pointing to an era that is widely regarded as extremely toxic due to the omnipresence of artifact decks? I think if you remove the nostalgia glasses, I think that era was objectively quite unhealthy. Skullclamp, Ravager, and the artifact lands all needed to be banned out of standard, and standard bans hadn't happened in AGES. There is so much to like about current Magic, especially Legacy. I encourage you to give it a try instead of pining over a former format of your younger days. If my videos show anything, it is how much small decisions do actually matter in current Legacy.

@Roy_Godiksen

6 ай бұрын

@ThrabenUniversity The reason it was fun back then had nothing to do with nostalgia. It's because it wasn't Pay to win yet. Most people (at least where I played) were playing their own decks. Not pre made super decks. I'm done with MTG, and won't be coming back. I tried MTGO again about a year ago, and it's completely pointless unless you're willing to dump cash into worthless digital cards.

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@Roy_Godiksen Magic was always pay to win in any competitive enviorment, ever since Alpha

@Roy_Godiksen

6 ай бұрын

@sanscipher9166 Not to the degree it is now. Back then, magic was less valuble and there weren't as many people dedicating their life to finding the perfect combos, and then post it for anyone to copy.

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@Roy_Godiksen I recommend taking off the rose-tinted glasses

Blah, blah blah best deck ......immediately gets rolled

@ThrabenUniversity

6 ай бұрын

Wasn't this a 4-1 league with multiple effective t1 and t2 kills?

@dm1004

6 ай бұрын

I sent that after round 1, think that league was soft. Multiple opponents with bad keeps, not knowing what was important or just playing a worse ancient tomb deck.

@xddddddddddddd

6 ай бұрын

well it wasn't "getting rolled" per se so good riddance even if what you said is correct😂

Love the channel but it constantly reminds me why I quit Legacy. What a miserable format.

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

How? This is dope ah

@bath0202

6 ай бұрын

@@sy-py Because it's really changed into a format where you can get just blown out and there is very little you can do about it. This deck is just another example of that. When up against it you just risk a sticker goblin into a Broadside to lose the game outright no matter how far ahead you are. It's a format of overpowered top tier decks run amok, with weird combo stuff running in the fringes. Playing anything other than those options is just not viable. I understand that's the format, but I think it's miserable. I missed the variety so I quit legacy and went to EDH.

@sy-py

6 ай бұрын

@@bath0202 If you think Legacy is not varied, you must truly be blind lol. Goblins have plenty of counterplay in control decks that just don't let the goblin resolve or kill it in response to the trigger