Edit: Ok, 50% of comments are telling me it was not a horse shoe and was actually a torque. Here are the factions I think we were meant to have, after seeing the icons: Moors and White Huns are for Certain. Then maybe, Alans, Magyars and either a German Faction or another emergent Romano Faction? What do you think they were?

@DimitarFCBM

4 жыл бұрын

Probably the Bulgarians?

@kspanzer

4 жыл бұрын

I believe thats a pagan rebel faction for rome,because the western and eastern rebels have the christian banner

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

@@kspanzer Ooh, that could have been interesting

@Lichtenhammer

4 жыл бұрын

At 3:16, the greenish-blue icon isn't actually a horseshoe, it's a torc, a piece of jewelry worn by many Celtic and Germanic peoples. The faction that was supposed to have this icon were the Quadi, who only appear as the name of a rebel faction in the finished game. Also the black shield on the guy at 4:55 reminds me of those beta Julii legionaries I sent to you, so I guess this guy is from a very early stage in the game's development.

@BobbyB1928

4 жыл бұрын

The Duke William pic was probably part of a cancelled trailer. The image looks too good to have been used in the game itself.

The faction with the blue symbol and black horse is mentioned as iazygez (or similar), which is a settlement west of dacia. Interesting that they wanted to make them a faction.

I had a theory that there was an early Middle Ages campaign planned for Barbarian Invasion, sort of like the Age of Charlemagne in Attila. It would explain why factions like the Moors and White Huns exist in the files. Maybe there would have been a campaign set after the Muslim conquests, with a Frankish Empire, Anglo-Saxon England, a new religion headed by the Moors, and a crippled Byzantine Empire trying to hold on to what they have against attacks from all sides.

@francis6775

3 жыл бұрын

That'd have been so awesome, and effectively doubled to the size of the expansion pack.

This game has a lot of secrets :O

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

4 жыл бұрын

Its just like an Enigma

The "horse shoe" symbol is a Celto-Germanic torc :P Also many towns are named after historical tribes (Campus Frisii/Marcomanni/Iazyges...etc). Maybe those were the canceled factions..?

@jareddanielgibson

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@danielhess6299

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit late but you're right. The three factions are namen in the data files. They are the Quadi, Marcomanni and Iazyges and there are settlements on tbe campaign map for all of them.

Okay, had another go at the ui/captain_banners folder. Turns out that the Blue horse symbol is for the Iazyges and the red one at 2:44 is for the Marcomanni.

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, would never have thought those

@floridaball4896

4 жыл бұрын

@@MelkorGG the green one is probably celtic, as it has a torque, which is a specifically celtic jewelry

The tents at around 3 minutes are used in the game. If you are playing as a horde capable faction and own only one settlement, you can use that button to abandon the settlement and become a horde.

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh, never noticed that before

They are all named somewhere in the datafiles. The one with the torc (horseshoe) is for the quadi, the one with the horse for the iazyges and the other one for the marcomanni. There are towns for all of them as well on the campaign map (campus quadi, campus iazyges and campus marcomanni) Edit: My theory is that the Moors and White huns would be emergent in some way like the Ostrogoths, Slavs etc. And that they were cut because of the faction limit (You would only have 14 starting factions if this were the case). The Roxolani, Lombardi and Burgundi were added later probably as their replacements. My guess for why they left the other three out is because almost all faction would then directly border the WRE and the area beyond that would be quite bland

the faction you mention at 3:13 could possibly be another British one as i think it looks like a torque (celtic style neck piece) on the icon, just a wild guess though.

@J4R0D

4 жыл бұрын

Brittany?

@paulusrafaelis4337

4 жыл бұрын

No the burgundians also used that symbol perhaps rebels

@lokkotez

4 жыл бұрын

Insumbres

@MrGoocherson

4 жыл бұрын

The Gaels of Ireland, id guess. Kerns and Charioteers similar to the Britons.

@hellohi5869

3 жыл бұрын

This is quaddi faction go to game files data models_strat textures than you see all factions .

Maybe at 4:12, it could’ve been a gallo-roman state, like Syagarius kingdom... Altough, Syagariu’s controlled his lands around the fall of the Roman Empire, in the 470s, wich is a long time after the beginning of the game.

Carthage lost Corsica and Sardinia after the First Punic War during the Mercenary Wars while they were fighting a bunch of mercs who were upsetti spaghetti that they didn’t get paid. Rome kinda just took them while Carthage was otherwise preoccupied.

At 4:30 that is William the Conqueror from the Norman prologue intro I think

@tvnetworks6610

4 жыл бұрын

It is. Looks like when he found and discovered Westeros instead of the throne of Britannia.

@lordblenkinsopp1537

4 жыл бұрын

Elite Civil Protection Unit #4609 what?

@wieprzdiukdetruffe5863

3 жыл бұрын

@@lordblenkinsopp1537 anyways, he was in the norman prologue

Honestly, I don't know why you don't work for Creative Assemblies. I've been thinking this for a while now. You'd be a great asset to them in understanding what the consumer wants.

That blue and green one is most likely a Celtic torc (arm piece). It could be another Celtic faction like the Picts or something.

@BigWillyG1000

3 жыл бұрын

Irish maybe?

Sardinia and Corsica were lost after the first punic war ended. They had mercenary rebellions but Rome intervened and claimed the two islands

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Nice, so the objectives would have involved reclaiming them

Maybe priest=moral boost/population happiness Doctor= retrain units on the go/increased chance that casualties are healed/ or public health boost.

Yo that's crazy because when I was modding B.I for a personal mini mod I saw mention of some of this stuff,mainly the white huns but something about moorish or something too

@MSF_Soldier_Alligator

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed them in the fmv while poking around the files, specifically that they had “Faction Destroyed” animations ready along with all the normal factions.

@BraydenLondon88

4 жыл бұрын

@@MSF_Soldier_Alligator I've never noticed that,it seems that they may have been decently far into development

@user-dx6bv2pe1s

4 жыл бұрын

I did a lot of 2d art and some unit textures for IB! Glad you are still playing the mod. I got out of modding after Attila but I still play RTW! Classic

that "horse shoe" faction could be a viking or briton faction as it looks like an oath ring that you would wear on your arm

@versmex87

4 жыл бұрын

Its a torc, and you wear it on your neck. Check out "the dying gaul" sculpture

This missing content should be fleshed out in future mods in rome remastered

Hmm, maybe with Moors and Berbers originally the unused symbol was going to be thr original berbers and the green flag would be used for a planned but scrapped Arab faction or something?

@francis6775

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm guessing that the 'Moors' in this case was a planned emergent Arab/Muslim faction. I guess the main issue is that they'd have emerged so late in the game (600AD) 250 years/500 turns after the start date, that they just couldn't be fitted in. It's a real shame, as an Arab 'horde' faction + the Islam religion would have added a whole new pillar to the campaign. Maybe two campaigns were initially planned? One in 363 AD, and one in 600AD?

I think moors would appear around 650s in middle east. They would be like medieval 2 mongols. There would be an islamic invasion in late game with powerfull moorish armies conquering throught the world

@thinkwithurdipstick

4 жыл бұрын

Moors were North Africans, they’d probably start around Mauritania

@lijger1

4 жыл бұрын

I would think they are the Arabs.

@thinkwithurdipstick

4 жыл бұрын

C. B. Moors were descendants of the berber tribes that converted to Islam. They were from Mauritania, hence the etymological similarity between Moor and Mauritania

@lijger1

4 жыл бұрын

@@thinkwithurdipstick For sure, but it would make a lot of sense to let the Arab invasions spawn later in the game to give the east more of a challenge together with the white Huns.

@nathanoliver9237

4 жыл бұрын

thinkwithurdipstick the North African people have many names and are still the same people from the first rome total war the Numidians.

The dog could be a "pet the doggo" option :'DDD

@forsterchurch6242

4 жыл бұрын

Romeshell cheat 'puppylove' I believe

@katarinanokami2718

4 жыл бұрын

@@forsterchurch6242 For extra fortune! Or maybe it was an option to search a spy infiltrated in ur settlement using the doggos x)

@kaisermoneybags4450

4 жыл бұрын

NOT FUNNY DIDN'T LAUGH

@kaisermoneybags4450

4 жыл бұрын

@@katarinanokami2718 THAT MAKES VERY LITTLE SENSe

@katarinanokami2718

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaisermoneybags4450 just like your comment before.

5:00 This guy looks like the dude from that early trailer, the one who makes the weird face after stabbing a barbarian. So maybe these were models made for trailers? 8:00 Corsica and Sardinia weren't lost during the First Punic War, but the Romans annexed them shortly afterwards. And then upped Carthage's debt when they complained. So that might've been an objective in a Hannibal campaign. And my guess on the quartermaster would be as an administrative agent that helps boost a city's income, probably with Management as their stat. Reminds me of dignitaries in Rome 2. Priest maybe boosted public order, since all temples do that. Maybe specific temples would train priests with certain bonuses, like a priest of Juno would give a health boost while a priest of Mars would give experience boost.

That is no horse shoe, it ia torque, a warrior necklace that sybolise a noble or high ranking warrior status. This surely should be either celtic or germanic faction.

@Lichtenhammer

4 жыл бұрын

That symbol is the only one (besides White Huns and Moors) that actually has a banner associated with it. From that we know that the faction was going to be the Germanic tribe of the Quadi.

@stefanstoyanov7460

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lichtenhammer Probably, though the quadi are now considered for either a proto slavic or northern thraco-illirian tribe often mistaken for germanic, many tribes residing in Pannonia, Moravia and the lands east of Elba were considered by default germanic back in the days. Now with the germanic shouvinism waning and the founding of new evidences those things are changing. Most powerfull exaple for this is the tribes of the Goti who are without any doubth the Getae/Geti of old, a thracian tribe. Those very Goti were one of the weapons of the Nazi propaganda for justifying their "reclamation" of old lands.

I remember being so bummed going through the files for Barbarian Invasion and seeing the white Huns listed in there but not being able to play as them.

Yep moors (Mauritanian kingdom ) or morocco now (amazighs) And algeria (Numidia) amazighs Tunisia ( Carthage) amazighs We had a long history but arabs destroyed everything

Wow lost things were about in Rome total war and medieval total war that I even not know of.

im sure someone already said it or maybe you did in another video i saw (think it was a legendoftotalwar vid tho), but the dog logo is a "cheat" activated through commands that literally just changes all or most icons to that dog lol

TW Attila got it right when it came to magyar symbols. The main mythological symbols in Magyar culture are the Csodaszarvas (can be roughly translated as 'Wonder Stag')or Táltos Csodaszarvas (táltos refers to the fact it has eight legs, which had a sort of magical importance in Tengriist shamanism)and the Turul, the latter one they used in TW Attila for the Magyar faction. The stag motive was, while significant in magyar mythology in relation to the founding of the Magyar nation nowadays known by outsiders as Hungary (the name refers to the Onogur turkic bulgarians, not us) was also widely used by different Avar steppe tribes, so i consider the fact they used the Turul, which the Magyar kings originate themselves from a good choice. It's a symbol more specific to the magyars.

13:35 I love this short movie, it's so classic games style. Reminds me of Diablo.

Sarmatians should have horsmena with some type of small wing as a little tribute to winged hussars

The game ends at 476 with the last western Roman Empire so it wouldn’t make sense to have Magyars, Vikings, Muslims Bulgarians lombards or many other suggestions. This even before the last Roman campaign

@Rynewulf

4 жыл бұрын

Lombards are already a faction in the game, playable too (like the Lombards, Picts, Roxolani and Berbers: you have to move their names from unplayable to playable in the text file. No one knows why they aren't playable from the get go)

@nathanoliver9237

4 жыл бұрын

26CLT yes my bad but they still don’t invade Italy until long after the end date in the game

Here’s some theories on the unknown factions:So starting off with the dark blue thing,it is probably the Alans like what the video says but it could be just another Germanic style nation and the green faction could also just be another Germanic faction because there’s all these campus cities that have there rebel names and one of those cities might of had its own faction like there might of been a Quadi faction of something but the more cool theory about the green guys is that it could be Gaul because a long time ago,the Germans migrated into Gaul and maybe if you conquered France,there would be an event similar to the Romano-British where they spawn in or it could just be another horde faction.The red faction in my opinion is probably the Visigoths because they were also a big gothic thing and they could also be a Nordic faction in a settlement they might of not added in Sweden or Norway because they are on the map and they are reachable.So those are my theories but I’m no expert so yeah

“I’m talking upside down so the audio might get weird” god forbid he pronounces the audio upside down

3:20 it's not a horseshoe, it's twisted. It looks like a gallic necklace. Maybe an independent gallo-roman kingdom that can become independant like the romano-brittons (and that got shortly independant before being conquered by the Franks)

@ruthswann88

4 жыл бұрын

Like Soissons?

@Duke_of_Lorraine

4 жыл бұрын

@@ruthswann88 exactly.

I think that the red shield with diamond and X on the center is the symbol for Belisaruis' faction?

The funny thing is that several modders have used these symbols precisely to represent these factions in their mods: for example the awesome Invasio Barbarorum series.

The Green one isn't a horse-shoe, it's a brooch. Also those are hordeing faction features, the tents I mean.

The Roxolani, Lombardi, Burgundii added late, so maybe the ones there they didn't have time for

Love barbarian invasion!

What are some good laptops to run Rome Total War? Any cheaper ones if possible.

Yeah Alans was the first thing that came to mind

Williams model is used in the tutorial battle

They also might have been like a hun faction that come south to invade

The white huns was called the Eptalites

For the torque (not a horseshoe) I imagine they might be an emergent faction in Gaul. And considering that the torque is a ancient celtic symbol, I'd say Bagaudae (then maybe emerging in Hispania too?) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagaudae

I know what the fog is for It's a Medieval 2/ Rome weird cheat called puppify_my_love or something like that which turns ur UI icons to that dog icon

romano british comes only after someone else takes londinium from the western roman empire (ig the WR rebels too but idk i never tested that out ) for example in a campaign i tried to do as the saxon i took londinium and the romano british came out with no territory . so yeah

Melkor that green horse shoe is a gaulic torc or torque It's a Fab necklace. :3 So most likely a rebellion of gaul or Frank's

What about the two other recoloured versions of the roman empires??

about the dog there is a cheatcode in med 2 wicht changed the ui to that dog. maybe it exsitet in rome 1 to?

Someone needs to mod these into the base game.

I bet it would play if you built churches in the Holy land

I'm actually planning on finishing caesar in gaul maybe.

The “horseshoe” one is just a neck band worn by Celtic warriors; not horse related

3:14 it looks like a celtic neck torq

@dhuibhshithe5636

4 жыл бұрын

Scythians used neck torqs

@stefanstoyanov7460

4 жыл бұрын

@@dhuibhshithe5636 Thracians and illyrians too but will surely be implemented for either celtic or germanic faction because they are more associated with those ornaments.

@Kampfwageneer

4 жыл бұрын

ok it looks like an Indo-European neck torq :P

I think the one with the red banner and orange design could have been the picts?

Where are you from? I like your English 💪 Greetings from Germany

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Yorkshire, Northern England

apparently 'Moors' before the rise of Islam was just another name for the Berbers

THE GREEN AND BLUE FACTION LOGO IS ACTUALLY A TOLK AN ENGLISH , BRITISH LOGO NOT A HORSESHOE?

maybe it would have been romano gauls

Wait there are magyars in total war attila?!

3:19 That looks more like one of those cuff bracelets that Nordic people used Maybe a Norse faction was considered at one point 🤔

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm, could be. Would certainly have been in interesting faction

@gwynplaine4198

4 жыл бұрын

@@MelkorGG I thought it was a Torque, (Gaulish, Celtic necklace) perhaps an Irish faction?

@paxromana1841

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe the Longbards?

@xbox_cheeto5338

4 жыл бұрын

@@gwynplaine4198 The colours would have made sense for that

@Soloyologaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@paxromana1841 the Lombardii/Langobardii are already a faction

I'd reckon one of those horse factions could have been the Bulgarians, as we inhabited the Caucassus region at that time and the Bulgarians were the main force of Atilla's army. Just a theory though.

@GaiusCaligula234

4 жыл бұрын

No

@DimitarFCBM

4 жыл бұрын

@@GaiusCaligula234 wdym no?

Maybe the red faction is Visigoths or sth

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Visigoths is Orange with a black cross

@lordhirluinthefair1307

4 жыл бұрын

@@MelkorGG the regular goths in the game have this flag.

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

isn't goths the red one with black cross - or it way be other way round?

@lordhirluinthefair1307

4 жыл бұрын

@@MelkorGG no there is no faction with a red flag and a black cross

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, your right. I was thinking of Goths and Ostrogoths. It could have been a Visigoth faction

Where are you from dude?

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

Yorkshire, Northern England

@Wisemich28

4 жыл бұрын

@@MelkorGG I like your accent. Im from İstanbul, Turkey

@Wisemich28

4 жыл бұрын

And when you upload thrace campaign part 2?

@lordblenkinsopp1537

4 жыл бұрын

MELKOR I thought you were from Scotland lol

=D

What’s up

Moors? Islam didn't exist until 632 AD lol.

@Ghost77210

4 жыл бұрын

Probably why they got removed

@MelkorGG

4 жыл бұрын

There's small references to the moors during the this date, but not the Moors as we know them

@mickeymisogynist955

4 жыл бұрын

@@MelkorGG Yeah, as the Mauri, but its weird they have the crescent moon and star.

@thinkwithurdipstick

4 жыл бұрын

Egypt were bronze age egyptians in Rome, having the moors use muslim iconography a century or two early wouldn’t be the most egregious inaccuracy the series made

@nathanoliver9237

4 жыл бұрын

Moors don’t mean Islam they are an ethnic group that has a lot of names given to them by different peoples.

First bitches